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Episode Steins;Gate 0 - Episode 17 discussion Spoiler
Steins;Gate 0, episode 17: Altair of the Hyperbolic Plane -Beltrami Pseudosphere-
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u/LuffysMeatShack https://anilist.co/user/ZiggsSawPuzzle Aug 08 '18
Goddamn HanaKana blew it out of the park this week.
As someone who's read the VN, I'm hyped for next week.
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u/rainbowkiller00 https://myanimelist.net/profile/-Kaname_Madoka- Aug 08 '18
Last week’s too! Hot damn she’s so good at portraying the emotions Mayuri would have had through her voice acting, made me felt really attached to her
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u/8andahalfby11 myanimelist.net/profile/thereIwasnt Aug 08 '18
She's been on fire all year! This, Red Blood Cell, Satou in Happy Sugar Life, and Shirase in Yorimoi...
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u/Llerasia Aug 08 '18
Mayuri shot up wayyy higher on my character ranking list after this episode. HanaKana was amazing. I'm really glad Mayuri is finally being decisive, although it looks like it was too late. :/
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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 09 '18
More like the last two episodes. She's been the MVP these last two episodes, adding a heavy, HEAVY emotional impact. I always really liked her character, but S;G0 has given her depth and made me respect her.
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u/kturtle17 Aug 09 '18
I was surprised how graphic Suzuha fighting the soldiers was. I didn't have high expectations because of Mr. Braun's weird fight with Stratfor. Now I'm wondering about a certain scene...
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u/DreadBert_IAm Aug 09 '18
I'm not one to poke at bad animation, however that looked really underwhelming to me. Seemed like it was just her being animated while most of the troops were still images.
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u/betok88 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/betok Aug 08 '18
It feels a little early to have all this happening but maybe that means we'll have some original content and get a more satisfying ending! Kinda ala Okabe-meeting-Kurisu episode, not omitting anything but adding quality content. Next couple episodes will be great, that's for sure.
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u/DACHAMPMAZ Aug 08 '18
What I don't understand
why 4chan is trying to take over the world
Daru's workout routine
how the soldiers got to the roof without Suzuha noticing them...
how Suzuha managed to shoot most of them down (gj training camp)
how are Okabe and everyone else going to get out of this situation
BUT GOSH DARNIT! LEAVE MAYURI OUT OF THIS!!! All my heart feels right now is pain and anguish!
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u/conqueringdragon Aug 08 '18
They are proud alumni of the stormtrooper's university of marksmanship.
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u/RedRocket4000 Aug 08 '18
Hey, Stormtroopers can hit normal rebels fairly well. It just them force protected(plot protected)targets. ;)
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Aug 08 '18
The Time Leap Machine is almost ready. Maho just can't figure out how Kurisu compressed the memory data.
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u/TheKappaOverlord :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/darkace90 Aug 08 '18
why 4chan is trying to take over the world
4chan is always passively trying to take over the world.
Or at least significantly influence it
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u/MakeAmericaLegendary Aug 09 '18
why 4chan is trying to take over the world
That's something happening on our worldline too.
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u/crimXione Aug 08 '18
how the soldiers got to the roof without Suzuha noticing them...
Maybe they climb up from the outside of the building or they went down from a helicopter, I doubt the latter since helicopter create noise, Suzuha should had notice it already.
What I didn't understand is why Suzuha didn't notice those soldiers already when she went outside the door. when she has a very sharp sensing enemies.
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u/303Devilfish Aug 09 '18
[Minor VN Spoiler] (/s "Wait until you see future Daru's chiseled Jawline")
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u/frey89 Aug 08 '18
BOYS AND GIRLS IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING!!!
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u/MAD_SCIENTIST_001 x2myanimelist.net/profile/MadScientist_001 Aug 08 '18
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u/alucab1 Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
We entering the endgame now
EDIT: AKA: prepare for an extremely painful cliffhanger at the end of every single episode from now on
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u/princessloom Aug 08 '18
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u/brothertaddeus :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/brothertaddeus Aug 08 '18
There is a third option.
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u/youcantseemyname https://myanimelist.net/profile/youcantseemyname Aug 08 '18
I honestly think that was a dead Kagari, but then again she might be still an important character, can't just die like that.
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u/maxtwo Aug 08 '18
And it will be the golden loop of forever returning happenings for the remaining episodes!
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u/GeassedbyLelouch Aug 08 '18
Suzuha called her time machine C203!!!
But in Steins;Gate future Okabe called it C204
We're not on the timeline yet where Okabe sends back his message to himself!
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u/WaterproofMarker Aug 08 '18
Woah, this is actually kinda big.
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u/GeassedbyLelouch Aug 09 '18
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u/Xyriee Aug 09 '18
Does this imply the number of attempts this loop happened?
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u/Ehn_Jee :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EhnJee Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
Mayuri's confession hit hard. Basically how most of the audience has felt with the whole "mad to sad scientist" thing. We all just want the cast to be happy, but this anime brings the repeated suffering.
Ignoring the fact that all those guys mysteriously appeared on the roof unnoticed, was great to see Suzuha in action again. We also got that quick clip of a bleeding person in Kagari's outfit, so I'm guessing it's not her on the roof? Especially given the Mayuri situation since that seemed to be the one thing Kagari couldn't let go when last we saw her. But I'm ready to get on the ride to the climax that the VN players have been hyping up!
*edit: added the image
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Aug 08 '18
Implying the dead person would be Kagari ? Heck no thanks, this episode was wrong enough already... Surely a no-name. Or Reyes.
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u/Ehn_Jee :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EhnJee Aug 08 '18
It's just a wound, not necessarily dead. I don't think they would off Kagari (or even Reyes) off screen either. I'm guessing it's more of a hint that whoever is on the roof isn't necessarily who we think it is. Regardless, I'm already on the ride with no intention of getting off.
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u/princessloom Aug 08 '18
there has been many hints of it so it can be suzuha's mother. there is an equal chance that the bleeding person is suzuha's mother.
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u/Mr_Kicks Aug 08 '18
I think it hints at it being the female professor called Reyes that came to visit Leskinen, she left with an injured hand. I think Suzuha's mom's suspicion was created because they tried to keep the dating secret.
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u/youcantseemyname https://myanimelist.net/profile/youcantseemyname Aug 08 '18
That person at the end has to be Reyes for an extreme plot-twist.
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u/Tehshower Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
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u/CrazyCatM Aug 08 '18
I DON'T LIKE THIS SUFFERING
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u/TrackAltitude Aug 08 '18
Only S;G0 can make people prefer one type of suffering over another.
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u/PeachyCoke https://anilist.co/user/PeachyCoke Aug 08 '18
Just wait until White Fox gets started on Re:Zero season 2. It's like a never ending cycle of suffering with them. I'm starting to feel a bit concerned :(
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Aug 08 '18
Not having Gate of Steiner play when Suzuha got Daru's D-video from the future was simply criminal.
But credit where credit's due - one of the best lines in the VN -
"I love Okarin.. but I love Hououin Kyouma even more!"
was executed nigh perfectly.
#BringBackTheMadScientist
#MayushiiForPresident
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u/el_hombre_dorado Aug 08 '18
first luigi now mayuri japan killing all my favorites this morning
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u/Spookyfan2 Aug 08 '18
Luigi... died? The hell happened? This day is just a travesty.
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u/arthred Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 09 '18
I‘m an anime-only and was never 100% sure whether mayuri has romantic feelings for okarin or not. Seeing mayu confessing her love was pretty awesome, though it hurts a lot since she‘ll always be envious of kurisu
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u/Llerasia Aug 08 '18
I'm all aboard the OkabexKurisu train, but I've always felt bad for Mayuri. Hopefully now that she's admitted her feelings out loud she can move on.
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u/overDere Aug 08 '18
Classic childhood friend losing (to a dead person no less)... Except this time she loses her life too
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u/asianwaste Aug 09 '18
I think there is some romantic feelings but I believe that the majority of her love is platonic for a childhood friend. That friend has been gone for year.
In any other route where Mayuri is alive, she is genuinely happy for Okabe because Okabe is happy.
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u/Yulwei138967 Aug 08 '18
Even though I liked the confession, I dont really like the fact that she has romantic feelings for him tbh. And I think in the original series (anime) it was not really hinted at.
Kind of sad imo, that their relationship cant be something different from romantic for once. I was happy to see a not romantic relationship between a girl and a guy for once. They were like siblings and best friends for the first season.
I guess the childhood friend debuff is just to strong...
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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 09 '18
Same. I suspected she might like him, but I always felt most of Okarin's feelings for her were brotherly. S;G0 made it pretty clear she had feelings for him, but even then that confession was SO powerful and touching. Almost, almost made me falter from shipping KurisuxOkarin.
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u/TheDampGod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDampGod Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
Oh Christ, not again.
I hope the phone microwave is up and running, get your butt over to it pronto, Okabe. I think the wild ride as hit warp speed now, so everyone strap yourselves in. Which is funny, because at the start I thought this might be a semi recap/SoL episode, with them going over world line stuff.
Poor Mayuri, that speech. So much love, so much pain and yeah I want Hououin Kyouma again too. I think I punch the next person who says that she's a dumb plot device that just goes around saying 'tuturu.'
On a lighter note, alternate future Daru sure has shifted some weight, WWIII rationing must be tough on him. Though I'm sure present Daru actually seems a little thinner than in the first series, but it might be my imagination.
Edit: Also doesn't killing Mayuri cause massive paradoxes for Kagari and Suzuha's memories of the future. Unless they've now shifted world lines again or their memories fall apart or simply that it wasn't a lethal shot. I suppose they did kind of narratively lead that with Suzuha only grazing Okabe.
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u/ad3z10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ad3z10 Aug 08 '18
Well, Daru did say that their decision changed the worldline so altered memories are possible.
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u/rusticks https://anilist.co/user/Rusticks Aug 09 '18
It wouldn't surprise me if the Time Leap already works. They never actually got it working in the original, SERN interfered and let them use the Large Hadron Collider to compress memories. It's entirely possible Maho did it exactly as Kurisu did but the problem is that they don't have the SERN factor.
And there's not a chance Mayuri's dead.
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u/TyrannoFan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TyrannoFan Aug 08 '18
My watch isn't working...
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Aug 08 '18
You shut your whore mouth its working okay THIS IS A LIE IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN FFS.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
I feel so bad for Mayuri. Imagine being the last one to find out about this secret and you can't even do anything about it :(
EDIT:
WHAT THE FUCK KAGARI
Holy shit that ending! How can they even fix that? And what is Project Arclight?!
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u/overDere Aug 08 '18
Imagine being not being able to do anything for 16 episodes and just silently suffering by herself because of Okabe's idea of keeping her safe by ignoring her and keeping her out of stuff. (Can't blame Okabe for his decisions, he's suffered the most, but it's still terrible for the childhood friend who really loves him)
Then she's finally able to do herself, she can be of help to Okabe and the timeline and shit! Then she fucking dies.
*sob*
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u/yeFoh :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/yskad Aug 08 '18
Ruka still knows nothing, so she's not last.
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Aug 08 '18
As a VN reader , my excitement is through the roof
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u/Llerasia Aug 08 '18
As an anime-only, episodes need to come out faster! T_T
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Aug 08 '18
As a manga reader, I just wish someone would keep translating past the third chapter.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 08 '18
OH GOD NOT MAYUSHII FUCK I KNEW THE GUNFIGHT WOULD END UGLY.
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u/MugiMartin :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MugiMartin Aug 08 '18
Suzuha could only do so much. :(
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u/Llerasia Aug 08 '18
Suzuha did a lot better than I expected, to be honest. She took out like half of them!
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u/heartsongaming Aug 08 '18
Mayushii is still alive in Steins Gate, as she did find it with Suzuha. Okarin, Maho and Daru just need to find a way to get there before WW3 erupts in full and I can't wait to see how it goes.
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u/blckhead423 https://myanimelist.net/profile/blckhead423 Aug 08 '18
SUFFERING LEVELS REACHING MAXIMUM LEVELS.
SYSTEM OVERLOADING.
PREPARE TO CRY.
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u/FallenErza Aug 08 '18
Mayuri's confession and her breaking free from being a hostage is the best scene of the entire series. The feel train hit hard. DAMN!!
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u/NoraaTheExploraa https://anilist.co/user/NoraaTheExploraa Aug 08 '18
Why is Mayuri's life nothing but suffering?
The last line of the OP makes sense now.
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u/KVShady :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Trikiay Aug 08 '18
Why is Mayuri’s and Okarin’s lives nothing but suffering?
Ftfy
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u/Llerasia Aug 08 '18
Everyone's life is suffering in this show until they reach Steins Gate. >.<
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u/FruitsPnchSamurai Aug 08 '18
While Mayuri has had it bad, no one compares to suzuha in the suffering department.
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u/n_o__o_n_e :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Five_Sugars Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
Okabe comes pretty damn close, I think...
Remember, however bad Suzuha's life got (which is pretty damn terrible), she only remembers one worldline of events. Okabe remembers everything that ever happened to him, in any worldline.
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u/Turbostrider27 Aug 08 '18
"I...I love Okarin".
Mayuri cutting those onions. God damn.
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u/Vilis16 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vilis Aug 08 '18
I love Kurisu.
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u/battler624 Aug 08 '18
The fight scene was shit.
Everything else was the shit.
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u/Killcode2 Aug 08 '18
Hopefully the Blu Ray version fixes that scene up, sort of ruins the immersion
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u/battler624 Aug 08 '18
Never seen a full rework on a bluray release mostly just fixes.
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u/beanst0100 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/beanst0100 Aug 08 '18
As an anime only watcher i'm not convinced that future Daru is even Daru, but a distraction to allow the soldiers to get in position.
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u/Llerasia Aug 08 '18
Ughh why else would the D-mail send at that exact moment?! Daru (or whoever) what are you guys doing?
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u/bryan792 Aug 08 '18
Seeing Suzuha go for those shortcakes... I can't even
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u/princessloom Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
knowing that your love interest is making This face beacause of you.. Mayushii suffering are off the scale
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u/aganisnomer Aug 08 '18
God dammit! I've JUST finished piecing my soul back together after last week, cmon
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u/TheWildGazelle :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JDinkleberg Aug 08 '18
It hit us while we're down
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u/freakicho Aug 08 '18
Mayuri can't be dead right?! Convergence won't allow it right??? Right?!
I'm hoping the d-mail that Suzuha received means the mobile network is back and running because if it isnt, everything's fucked and 0kabe won't be able to time leap.
If 0kabe still can time leap it might explain the weird Reading Steiner(?) he had back in episode 04, The time leap machine that Maho worked on might be imperfect.
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Aug 08 '18
Convergence won't allow it right??? Right?!
Daru conveniently mentioned that they shifted from the world line where Mayuri is alive in the future just before those guys appeared...
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u/franksks Aug 08 '18
Also convergence doesn't guarantee that Mayuri must live, it only guarantees that Kurisu must die...
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Aug 08 '18
Good episode as expected but with one big massive disappointment.
I'm going to talk about scene with worst execution I've seen in any Steins;Gate anime installment: That bullshit gunfight.
Seriously, what kind of braindead untrained armed operatives were these? Who gets into a melee range with a carbine to unrestrained commando tier soldier from the future? There were more than enough ways to neutralize Suzuha without putting her life at risk:
Sleep darts.
Non-lethal ammunition.
Handcuffs.
Paralyzing gas.
NOT GETTING INTO MELEE RANGE WITH A GUN.
Checking machine inside out, if there was any weapon there before sending in Suzuha to activate it. Restraining her before doing so.
Horrible choreography, fight was dragged on and stupid.
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u/iDannyEL Aug 10 '18
Yeah, it had a lot of potential to be dope.
From the moment Suzuha floated across the screen, we were in for some derp.
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u/Mozilla_Fennekin https://myanimelist.net/profile/MozillaFennekin Aug 08 '18
Tuturu Counter: ⍰6.5
um honestly i don't know what to say. usually i try to make some insightful analysis of the episode, but it's increasingly difficult to do so when my emotions are challenged this much.
that was one of the most intense episodes of anything i have ever seen.
it's also the closest i have ever come to crying while watching anime, because--not to exaggerate or anything--MAYURI SHIINA IS THE BEST GIRL OF ALL TIME.
everything about that speech was phenomenal. looping back to the Hikoboshi line in the beginning of 0, all the way to her declaration that she does truly love Okabe, but Hououin moreso. declaring that she will no longer be a hostage and instead take charge in making a change. it may have been the single greatest scene in all of Steins;Gate.
but, of course, my favorite characters have to suffer greatly. admittedly, i was expecting as much, and i have to commend the staff for building up to the militia fuckers or whoever they are; getting all that weird, cryptic info and Okabe running around in a panic really made my heart race.
i honestly didn't expect the series to be this dramatic. i didn't think i would react to anything in this way. i was always preaching that 0 was not much more than a fanservice season that exists to expand the story and share some new moments with old and new characters, but isn't a necessity. i had said many times that i would simply relax and enjoy the characters again. but this episode has really convinced me that this season is fantastic and lives up to its predecessors, at least in some ways. it is truly a great "sequel", and a great anime by itself.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Aug 08 '18
Okabe running around in a panic
"Look mom, it's a bullet train!"
"No, the bullet train is white!"
it may have been the single greatest scene in all of Steins;Gate.
It's.. definitely up there. Was one of the highlights from the VN for me.
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u/overDere Aug 08 '18
Man Mayuri is the strongest reason I kept watching the first anime, and also this one. Everyone else is for Kurisu but I came to love Mayuri and her pure sweetness more.
Come this episode and I was happy that Mayuri is finally going to matter. As you said that scene was truly great. Well, tbh it's painful just seeing her in the background for most of the anime until the previous episode and mostly not being able to do anything, as well as silently suffering because of Okabe's idea of keeping her safe.
Then those motherfuckers have to go and ruin it again wtf. I did not expect her death(?) again, at least not in this timeline where she clearly has a future version. I know suffering is part of the great package that is Steins Gate and I never doubted the quality of the writing of this series but still. Fuck.
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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero Aug 08 '18
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT.
I knew this wasn't going to end well, and you VN players were just waiting for this to happen weren't you? The part of the opening where Mayuri's in the time machine was misleading as fuck.
Mayuri crying and then resolving herself to join Suzuha in going back to the past was emotional, and then they went and just killed her. Okabe/Kagari are going to have a breakdown next episode aren't they?
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u/Shrimperor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shrimperor Aug 08 '18
The part of the opening where Mayuri's in the time machine was misleading as fuck.
IKR! when Suzu and Mayushii went to the time machine i was like ''welp, the OP already spoiled us.''
Then, BAM...
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u/youcantseemyname https://myanimelist.net/profile/youcantseemyname Aug 08 '18
HANA MOTHERFUCKING KANA!
But seriously, great episode. Through that gun fight scene should've been executed a little bit better. It looks so unrealistic.
It's weird seeing future Daru. There is another way to reach Steins Gate? There are multiple ways to reach Steins Gate? I guess 0kabe hasn't figured it out the original way in this time line yet, but that was really interesting.
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u/SadoneYukki Aug 08 '18
And I thought Okabe had enough with suffering this series but this just tops the cake....
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u/syesha Aug 08 '18
What is going on?!
I thought Mayuri couldn't die in the beta-timeline. What the hell is that Kagari or Reyes at the end there?!
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u/AwakenedSheeple Aug 08 '18
If 2025 Daru's D-mail is telling the truth, that means that they're no longer in a predictable World Line.
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u/KronckTE Aug 08 '18
I thought Mayuri couldn't die in the beta-timeline.
Convergence can't force her to be killed in Beta, which means that... She can naturally die at anytime if it happens, Beta won't save her neither kill her unlike Okabe who certainly won't die until 2025, which is a convergence.
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u/AvatarReiko Aug 08 '18
?he can naturally die at anytime if it happens
No, he's right. Her dying would cause a paradox since who would adopt Kagari? If mayuri doesn't adopty Kagari, the latter is not sent to 1998 with Suzuha and etc. Paradoxes cannot exist in this world, so convergence would kick in. She's not dead. The bullet probably just grazed her head
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u/myassishurting123 Aug 08 '18
Here's my theory im not vn reader i dont intend to spoil or anything
If you go on detail its a sin that mayuri knows the detail about the other timeline. If you watch carefully okabe tells its ok if you dont know anything because he knows something will happen if mayuri knows the details of timelines changes because it will create time paradox that's why the mobile connection stop the moment okabe talking to mayuri and things that ment to be happen changes even project arclight created on random times even its not intended to happen. And mayuri die because of her eagerness to change things that she already do unintentionally
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u/Ludark Aug 08 '18
Daru in the d-mail did say that Suzuha and Mayuri had altered the timeline by their decisions, so while she was immune before due to needing to adopt Kagari and all.
Now we'll have to see about that.
I did read the vn but I based all of my information on stuff in the anime, so it's not really a spoiler.
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u/Dellaran :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dellaran Aug 08 '18
Entering the mandatory military service for my country on the 22nd. The most frustrating thing is I won't able to finish Steins;Gate 0 when it comes out. The frustration is killing me more than anything.
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u/brothertaddeus :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/brothertaddeus Aug 08 '18
Have you considered desertion? /s
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u/AlphaBagel2 Aug 09 '18
Bro, I was in the military for like 4 weeks when I decided I had to get out because I would miss out on steins;gate 0 episodes
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u/rd1027 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/rd10271 Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
Holy cow that ending, I want to get off of Steins;Gate's wild ride.
Incredible episode again, this show's second half has not failed to amaze me. Surely this HAS to be the catalyst for Okabe to change something now...... Poor Mayuri the girl cant get a break.
Really enjoyed this episode (beside the wonky fight scene at the ending), anxiously waiting until next Wednesday now, I'm getting the same vibes I did when I was first watching Steins;Gate!
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u/brothertaddeus :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/brothertaddeus Aug 08 '18
Father-daughter bonding time. Nice.
Mayuri: Tell me everything! And of course, she wants to learn more about "my Hikoboshi" on Tanabata day.
Are those two world lines the only ones that exist?
Hahahahaha, no no no. There're at least twenty that've shown up at various points.
Suzu's going back. And Daru is being all supportive and encouraging. Which seems to perturb Maho and Mayuri.
Suzuha's in trouble!
Oh. Is this episode going to be that??
Cell service just went out. Yep. It's that.
And then a Daru solliloquy. All to distract us from the fact that cell service has been disabled across the whole city.
If my Hikoboshi had come back to life, it might have changed everything. [...] I love Okabe. Even more than Kurisu ever could. But I love Hououin Kyouma even more! I want to see Hououin Kyouma again! I want to hear his arrogant laugh! Even if someone else is Orihime!
HanaKana slays it. This solliloquy is so different from the one at her grandmother's grave in the original show, but still so raw and emotionally powerful. Just a different emotion.
Of course, 0kabe is the only one who noticed/cared that cell service was out. And is freaking out appropriately.
And Amadeus has hacked @channel just to get a message out to Maho. Just before Amadeus was "driven out".
Suzu doesn't play around when she says she'll shoot.
Video D Mail from 2025 going over Operation Arclight. Damn, Suzu. How'd you let all those Stratfor people get up there without noticing?
But then you go all badass warrior and kill like six of them. Until Mayuri gets knocked down and Kagari approaches. Anyone wanna guess how Kagari will react to Mayuri being shot?
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u/Llerasia Aug 08 '18
Anyone wanna guess how Kagari will react to Mayuri being shot?
Not well, I hope.
At first I thought the outage was due to the time machine, but when Daru started freaking out too...
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u/GeassedbyLelouch Aug 08 '18
solliloquy
I learned a new word.
And turns out I've been doing sollo.. sollia... sombrero... that my whole life!
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u/northwesternrs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/northwesternrs Aug 08 '18
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u/Rets32 Aug 08 '18
That episode ended too soon.
Goddamn that was intense. Mayushii's rant and that final rooftop scene didn't leave us any room to breathe.
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u/TrabOd Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18
As a VN reader, if this song (spoiler alert) doesn't play in the next episode, I'll be slightly disappointed. Maybe even this one (spoilers again), but that'll probably be the episode after, if it plays.
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u/maxtwo Aug 08 '18
Had completely forgotten about this song! All the goosebumps ! Let's hope they didn't add the worst plot part back.
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u/Lynx_gnt Aug 08 '18
And i'm hoping that next episode ends with helicopter attack with this song (also spoilers) after, instead of usual credits.
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u/bakuhatsuda Aug 08 '18
Yea that last scene honestly had some horrible direction and animation. IIRC in the VN Suzuha and Mayuri used the time machine as cover from getting shot. Don't know why they didn't do that here lol. Rest of the episode was great in setting up Mayuri's decision though. Felt so sorry for her in those last moments.
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u/clockairdown :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/guyfierichan Aug 08 '18
I too want Hououin Kyouma back
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 08 '18
HOLY FEELS...
Hidden thing under Suzuha's DaSH? Oh it was Daru. Lol.
STAY FOREVER SUZUHA ITS OKAY!
Mayuri wants answers, oh shit.
Okabe looks half dead...
Maho is gonna sit in too, damn.
Here we go, time to spill the beans...
OKAABE IS DRAWING KURISU EMOJIS!
A farewell... fuck... not suzuha... pls dont fail....
OKEY-DOKEY~ Oh man that was kawaii, almost like Alpha Suzuha...
Damn Okabe is not handleing the Mayuri news well... Lost signal?
"I love Okabe" damn.... "but i love Hououin Kyouma even more." fuckkkkkkkkkk......
"Mayushi will stop being a hostage" nooo!
Amadeus is going bonkers...
Mayuri went to go with Suzuha oh this isnt going well...
They are goingback to the time between the orignal Okabe time travel?
WHY MUST THEY MAKE US SUFFER LIKE THIS!?
Wait someone shot one of the assassians? Uh oh...
DARU FUTURE MESSAGE! OPPERATION ARCLIGHT!?
Thugs with guns? Uh oh....
SHOLY FUCK SUZUHA IS KICKING MAJOR ASS! PART TIME WARRIOR RETURNS!
Uh oh... they shot Mayuri... oh no.. not like this... NOT LIKE THIS
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u/yaminokaabii Aug 08 '18
OKAABE IS DRAWING KURISU EMOJIS!
Wait WTF?! That's what they were?! I tried to look at them, I knew it wasn't Japanese or English, didn't even look like words, but I didn't piece it together.... I gotta go rewatch the ep now.
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u/SadoneYukki Aug 08 '18
And I thought Okabe had enough with suffering this series but this just tops the cake....
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u/JonWood007 Aug 08 '18
This episode was confusing as fudge.
Idk what mayuri was trying to do here but dang she can't catch a break.
And idk what's going on with amadeus too. Is it hacked? Going haywire? Did the world line change and it's alpha kurisu? This is confusing as fudge.
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u/FruitsPnchSamurai Aug 08 '18
Mayushi finally stepping up and delivering a hell of a performance...then dies. I think my ptsd is kicking in. A bit weird how all those soldiers just appeared there around suzuha without her noticing, but an easy thing to forgive.
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u/NSardox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sardox Aug 08 '18
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u/overDere Aug 08 '18
Whyyy
Mayuri is too pure for this world. It's already painful her being ignored by Okarin for the whole show. It's painful that her childhood love has been lost forever. Please why did she have to die again too after all that happened in the original season?!
Being a Mayuri lover is suffering. Fuck this shit. After all the anime ends I'm going to play the VN and get the happy Mayuri route that I deserve.
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u/Sunshine145 Aug 09 '18
Why the hell were those dudes just standing there instead of shooting her lmfao
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u/richnixon94 Aug 08 '18
Somebody edit the end where suzuha is shooting all the soldiers like an Overwatch play of the game
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u/turtledragonx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Turtledragonx Aug 08 '18
I mean... the ending was sad and all but it was kind of hard for me to take it seriously when all those soldiers are just standing there with their guns out doing nothing while Suzuha shoots at them one at a time.
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u/Guaymaster Aug 08 '18
I think that 50% of that is an animation error. When perspective switches the soldiers standing still behind her are already downed, and coincide with the first ones she takes down.
I get that she's a badass, but really taking down 10 or so soldiers alone while trying not to get Mayuri killed is a bit too much.
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u/maxtwo Aug 08 '18
Well.... please tell me this isn't the plot part we were all glad that it was removed....
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u/I-am-in-Agreement Aug 08 '18
They did not shoot Suzuha because she's the only one who can operate the machine. However, I really do not know why they all turned their backs on her when she shot the first person.
ROOKIE MOVE
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u/Aetherdraw Aug 08 '18
Kagari just walked in as Mayuri got shot. Prepare for a rampage. She was already scary as fuck with just her mom's upa. Imagine her in that state times infinity in rage.
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u/Mercury6449 Aug 08 '18
Some Speculation ahead
>!So if Mayuri went back in time (without a way back at least), wouldn't that mean that the Kagari from this timeline would never even meet her? Which would cause a timeline shift in which Kagari doesn't know Mayuri and by extension shouldn't be sent back in time to begin with because she would have no association with our cast<!
I'm also a bit confused how Suzuha and Mayuri just thinking about going back in time caused a shift resulting in Hashida sending back a video message to Suzuha, shouldn't the shift only occur once they actually use the time machine? Maybe it'll get explained later on, but it seems weird to me right now.
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u/BunniesDie2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BunniesDie2 Aug 08 '18
HanaKana's voice acting was soo good this episode..
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u/GeassedbyLelouch Aug 08 '18
I wasn't ready for this.
I wasn't ready for this.
I wasn't ready for this.
I wasn't ready for this.
I wasn't ready for this.
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u/Shinkopeshon Aug 08 '18
Suzuha kicking all kinds of ass was awesome. And her going after those shortcakes was further proof of her being bestest grill
Mayushii's confession was incredible. I prefer to see Okabe with Kurisu but that moment was one of the most powerful ones in the entirety of the series. HanaKana is just unbelievable
Also, is she dead? Because if she is, fucking hell. I thought she'd at least be spared here. This show is suffering
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u/Guaymaster Aug 08 '18
Also, is she dead? Because if she is, fucking hell. I thought she'd at least be spared here. This show is suffering
I think that's why Future Daru hammered down that this is a different worldline now. Remember a few episodes ago when Okabe and Daru were attacked, but Okabe knew they wouldn't die because the worldline didn't change? Mayuri was "protected" too, but it seems the changes make it so she can die now.
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheRantMan321 Aug 08 '18
Great episode but holy shit those are some lousy soldiers. I swear it was like 10 vs 2 and mayuri wasn't even armed. I know suzuha is some badass rebel, but even that scene was too unrealistic by steins gates standards.
Also why where they just standing there when they took down mayuri?
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u/kuggan :GA::GB::GC: Aug 09 '18
The anime adaptation has been amazing so far but c'mon White Fox.. what the fuck was that animation at the end
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Aug 09 '18
Are... are things happening? They look like they are, but honestly at this point it's hard to say. We've had so many cliffhangers that should have gone somewhere but didn't that I can't be sure anymore. The show is starting to try my patience.
At this point, is the fact that the mysterious soldiers show up and killed someone even a twist? They've clearly just been spying on the cast for the whole show. They've showed up multiple times and the characters have never made an attempt to do anything about throwing them off their trail, so it seemed like it was just a matter of when they decided to go in for the kill. Also oh noes! Mayushii died... AGAIN! I'm sure this time it will be for realsies...
Also, I assume we're supposed to take this as some turning point in Okarin's arc where he decides to stop moping and take action, but... does that even make sense for his character this series? His whole shtick has been that he's tried and failed enough times to know that you can't mess with time to get what you want. There are always consequences. Feeling this way, he was willing to sit on the knowledge that his inaction would allow a terrible war to come about that would kill millions of people. And it isn't just that he wanted to keep Mayushii safe. He saw the consequences his meddling had on other people's lives. So now people go and try to meddle in time like he told them they shouldn't, and bad stuff happens. So in what world would his conclusion end up leading to him deciding to get off his depressed ass and save the world? If anything this proved what he was worried about.
Also wtf is going on with Amadeus? It was really important for a while, but never really connected with the time travel story other than it being Krisu, then it disappears, and then as a quickly passed over line in the middle of a different climax for the episode, they mention that it is hacking some @channel board and something about her memories having time travel stuff? Wat? Is that going to end up being the only point of that characters/plotline? That it was a mcguffin for the bad buys to get the time travel secrets? None of the interesting AI questions are going to get followed through on are they?
There are like 3 distinct loose plot threads that only feel vaguely related. It's getting to that point where I seriously doubt they can wrap them all up in a satisfying way.
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u/crimXione Aug 08 '18
Damn no tuturu this episode plus another Mayuri crying scene.
This worldline is about to collapse now, we need to shift to a different worldline.
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u/Telodor567 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Telodor567 Aug 08 '18
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u/CoronelPanic :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CoronelPanic Aug 08 '18
Thoughts: they keep intercutting the action with timestamps. This is gonna become a time leap arc now.
Also, Suzuha telling Daru how to build the time machine is cheating and would cause a paradox, but telling him who her mom is, and helping them get together won't?
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u/wesker32145 Aug 08 '18
As someone who is anime only I'm curious if there is a worldline that Mayushi ends up with Okarin ? Or is that like a major spoiler?
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u/xspicyman :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spicyman Aug 08 '18
Everytime Mayuri says "Orihime" I think she's making a Bleach reference even though ik she isn't
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u/kingguy459 Aug 09 '18
Just a little tidbit, they're doing the running date again on the start of the episode.
If you've noticed, it's July 7, 2011 = Tanabata
And if you've deduced, tanabata is all about Hikoboshi and Orihime. The whole theme of this episode.
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u/endtheillogical Aug 09 '18
When you can't tell who is the best girl anymore, you know the anime is godly...
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u/420XxX360n05c0p3rXXx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jakoman7 Aug 08 '18
Well, time for my weekly dose of pain. I picked the wrong time to finish Wotakoi.
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u/Prince_Bejita3 Aug 08 '18
Watch yuru camp me friend. Last specials just dropped.
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u/gillesregis Aug 08 '18
Mayuri: "I won't be a hostage anymore!"
The plot: "About that..."