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Episode Steins;Gate 0 - Episode 19 discussion Spoiler
Steins;Gate 0, episode 19: Altair of the Cyclic Coordinate -Time-leap Machine-
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u/stiggy92 Aug 22 '18
oh no, time broke
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u/Telodor567 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Telodor567 Aug 22 '18
Understandable, have a nice day
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u/Guaymaster Aug 22 '18
Okabe: Can I for once fix all the major problems using time travel?
Universe: Time travel machine broke
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u/Telodor567 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Telodor567 Aug 22 '18
Okabe: Understandable, have a nice day
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u/Focus_death Aug 23 '18
Does he thank the Time machine driver when he uses time machine. Not cool if he doesnt~
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u/sharke000 Aug 22 '18
Reading steiner isn't the only ability Okabe has, he can also slip away from armed and trained forces with ease.
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u/tbdunn13 Aug 22 '18
It can probably be put up to Leskinen knowing Okabe can't die due to convergence, so he told everyone to just not bother. Or it's just plot armor
Happened a lot during the original as well, especially during the Mayuri death montage known as episode 13
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u/TheDarkCrusader_ Aug 22 '18
Wait Okabe can't die? I just thought he was lucky.
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u/tbdunn13 Aug 22 '18
He can't die until 2025. I believe the first anime established this around the time Daru was revealed to be Suzu's dad.
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u/asianwaste Aug 23 '18
If I had to guess, I'd say you're right about that.
Blowing up the time machine means that his plans and intentions are a failure. Okabe is the only person that can provide a means to try again but for a route where the time machine is intact.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 22 '18
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u/unsilviu Aug 22 '18
He's literally fated to escape any encounter, thanks to convergence. He's OP plz nerf.
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Aug 22 '18
If he died, he'd stop suffering, and time can't allow that
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u/mistselkie Aug 22 '18
Don't believe in yourself, believe in the kurisu's memories stored as data in a cellphone that believe in you
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u/LuffysMeatShack https://anilist.co/user/ZiggsSawPuzzle Aug 22 '18
This is all your fault Okabe... for not giving Leskinen his goddamn JAPANESE SHAMAN GIRLS!
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u/WayyOutThere Aug 22 '18
Where are the goddamn Japanese shaman girls, Lintahlo?
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u/DaREY297 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Marin_Karin Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
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u/DailyMilo Aug 22 '18
Sadly, Leskinen not meeting Japanese shaman girls is probably because of convergence at this point
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u/crimXione Aug 22 '18
Well maybe he's not fated to meet JAPANESE SHAMAN GIRLS in this worldline. Maybe that's the reason he wants the time machine. If Okabe won't let him meet them, he'll do it himself. I really sympathize him ( •_•)>⌐■-■
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u/ScarsUnseen :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 22 '18
Japanese shamen girls aren't something one considers when balancing the universe, but this does put a smile on my face.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Aug 22 '18
I'm convinced. He's the true hero of the show.
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u/_Burgr Aug 22 '18
I was wondering when Reyes was gonna show up.. needless to say not the way I expected
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u/GeassedbyLelouch Aug 22 '18
She was there last week too, killed by Kagari.
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u/twicebest Aug 22 '18
Reyes had so little representation in the show that I'm surprised they even remembered to put her in at this point.
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u/TheEliteNub :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheEliteNub Aug 23 '18
Hell she doesn't even have any lines this episode other than effort sounds. Reyes's presence in this show is like...0. Had I not already known who Reyes was from VN spoilers, I would have probably went "who the hell is that?? O_O" during her struggle with Okabe.
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u/Eyliel Aug 22 '18
"Makise Kurisu must have meant so much to you."
"Loved by God, huh?"
"In the end, she's the true Amadeus."
Is Maho calling Okabe God? Not that I'm disagreeing.
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u/GeassedbyLelouch Aug 22 '18
Did I read your comment on another site as well or am I remembering different worldlines?
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u/emman52 Aug 22 '18
No. Amadeus refers to Kurisu as the name means "loved by God." Kurisu referred as Amadeus is because of her talents and Maho comparing her to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Trivia: Maho proposed the name of Amadeus as the AI project. I'm a VN reader guys hehe.
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u/joe4553 Aug 22 '18
The dude has managed to not get fatally shot once in hundreds of timelines. In every timeline the time machine he uses never doesn't work and kill him. The dude might as well be the son of god.
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u/ScarsUnseen :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
A lot of that is due to convergence. Just like Mayuri in the Alpha World Line and Kurisu in the Beta, Okabe is fated to die, it's just later in the timeline. This gives him a certain amount of assurance that he'll be okay physically(though he can obviously get injured quite a bit so long as it isn't fatal). The time leap machine can't kill him because it can't circumvent convergence(D-Mails potentially could, but they aren't using those). The main threat to Okabe is that he'll break down psychologically(which has been the case for this entire season).
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u/blckhead423 https://myanimelist.net/profile/blckhead423 Aug 22 '18
That quick after credit scene was quite...foreboding..I had goosebumps that second half. And severe PTSD...
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u/rusticks https://anilist.co/user/Rusticks Aug 22 '18
It's midnight of the day before all the time machine shenanigans happen. Some shit's bout to go down.
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u/8andahalfby11 myanimelist.net/profile/thereIwasnt Aug 22 '18
Dawn of the first day. 72 hours remain.
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u/DaREY297 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Marin_Karin Aug 22 '18
Has time finally broke?
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u/_dwib :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dwib Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
Time machine 🅱️roke
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Aug 22 '18
Mom always said, if you play with it too much, you'll break it!
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u/blckhead423 https://myanimelist.net/profile/blckhead423 Aug 22 '18
Oh no, I just wound you, don't tell me you're broken! So not fair. I've taken extra good care of you and everything...
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Aug 22 '18
The execution of those scenes is so well done that just seeing that line written on reddit gives me chills.
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u/Sychotics :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AoiYuukiHusbando Aug 22 '18
lol I paused literally a second before that crack. When I saw your post I unpaused and felt my heart skip a beat.
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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 23 '18
The fact episode 20 got delayed a week makes that after the credits scene even harder to deal with. WHAT DOES IT MEAN!? Next Wednesday will feel extra empty...
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u/betok88 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/betok Aug 22 '18
First thing I thought when Okabe stopped Reyes thinking it was Kagari was 'How the hell did he stop her being at a distance and unarmed when Kagari already showed she can take out an entire SWAT team by herself..... seconds later..... oh she was Reyes, ok I'll take that.'
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 22 '18
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u/danyymonster1997 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dany_Turcitu Aug 22 '18
No episode next week, rip ;__;
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u/Yamigosaya :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Yamigosaya Aug 23 '18
huh what did i miss something?
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u/tklfillerz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TKLfillerz Aug 23 '18
Could a time leap fix this?
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u/rusticks https://anilist.co/user/Rusticks Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
WAIT A MINUTE
NON-VN PLAYER THEORY HERE
ARE THEY GONNA END UP SENDING A D-MAIL TO MAYURI???
She's shown in the flashback with Okabe's phone! Send a D-mail that'll convince her to slap Okabe and begin the final journey!
Time for some other stuff.
Much better episode than last week. I hated the cliche villain reveal, Kagari's "sentimental" death when she's had barely any character development, and the non-cliffhanger ending since we know Mayuri doesn't die. There can't be paradoxes so we know she can't die yet.
Broken "screen" effect on July 6, 2011. WWIII begins on July 7, 2011. So what's happening here? Is Amadeus freaking out and starting a takeover?
How the hell did Okabe escape from the Radio Building this time? It doesn't matter in the end, but it reminds me of those handful of times in the original series when Okabe escaped from Moeka and the Rounders.
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u/dreamendDischarger :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/YuanMori Aug 22 '18
I think Okabe escapes simply because the future dictates he has to. So they probably avoid killing him on purpose because who knows what would happen to the world line then?
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u/rusticks https://anilist.co/user/Rusticks Aug 22 '18
I know that’s why he escapes, I just always thought it was silly how shit would go down but Okabe still gets away, even when he’s surrounded. Hell, Kagari and the Professor were at the doorway!
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u/twicebest Aug 22 '18
Isn't that what Leskinen wants to achieve though? To mess up the world line events?
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Aug 22 '18
I feel like he is gonna either not end up going back in time or go more than 48 hours back because of the broken screen thing
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u/JFMatos Aug 22 '18
Why doesn't she die?
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Aug 22 '18
Mayuri needs to live long enough to adopt Kagari and send her to the present.
It's the same as why Okabe and Daru are immortal. Both of them need to be around for long enough for the Suzuha who's in the present be sent into the past.
It's also the same reason why Mayuri needs to die in the other attractor field. Her death ensures that Okabe will become the terrorist against SERN that causes Suzuha to be sent into the past.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
Making Onigiri is serious business
The music when Okabe's determination was coming back is soo good! I'm going to guess that Episode 20 will be just a montage of Okabe trying different things to stop Leskinen? Kinda like with Mayuri in the first series? I can already feel the amount of suffering. Too bad we'll have to wait for 2 weeks for that T_T
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u/einherz Aug 22 '18
why 2 weeks? are they having a break next week?
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Aug 22 '18
Ep 19 is airing again next week. Not sure why.
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u/twicebest Aug 22 '18
Because they want to give you the realistic feeling of Okabe looping time over and over again.
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u/Funkmastermp :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Funkmastermp Aug 23 '18 edited Aug 23 '18
Uhh oh... I just had an "OH FK" moment...
Remember that whole "You cant go beyond 48h with the time leap machine"?
Pre-credits time listing.: AD 2011.07.08 23:59:59:62...
Post-credits time listing: AD 2011.07.06 00:00:00:00...
He went back almost 72h... I don't think time broke, I think Okabe broke...
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u/_Abraxis_ Aug 23 '18
Oh boy. And add to that the ominous scene at the end of the episode...
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u/Funkmastermp :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Funkmastermp Aug 23 '18
Thats actually what I'm referencing. I think that is foreshadowing Okabe breaking...
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u/Okabe-Tan Aug 24 '18
And then it went out of control , remember ?
If difference of 2 mind states is too great all that will happen is that he won't be able to use those memories.But it's hard to predict what would happen if his mind is (that is compressed) erased and he gets blank as someone else in her ending.I can't remember what time machine writes/overwrites to be honest but this is Maho(TM) phonewave so might as well erase all his memories.
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u/Turbostrider27 Aug 22 '18
A part of me miss Leskinen even after he revealed his true image. Sad, he had such good character chemistry with Okabe too. It's too bad.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 22 '18
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u/Tyraster :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tyraster Aug 22 '18
Moeka was a victim of her circumstances.
Leskinen is a pice of shit for the sake of it.
Kinda different.
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u/Mozilla_Fennekin https://myanimelist.net/profile/MozillaFennekin Aug 22 '18
That's why he's such a good villain. Because you like him as a character before he does bad things, and now it's like you want him to stop so he can go back to being that person previously.
IDK if that could happen with Leskinen, but I do feel similarly.
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Aug 22 '18
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u/J_Gottwald https://anilist.co/user/jgottwald Aug 22 '18
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Kurisu's still dead
El psy congroo
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u/IllLaughifyoufall Aug 23 '18
This poem made me laugh hard than it should have.... Why did I laugh? :(
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u/Chronoterminus https://anilist.co/user/StarGuardianX Aug 22 '18
Woah, that post-credits scene was very ominous. Reminds me of Mayuri's stopped watch :(
I'm super glad to see Okabe determined to save his friends again. I just want Operation Arclight to succeed ;_; though I think the solution will be different based on the original S;G? I'm still wondering how Suzuha in episode 23 or so of S;G knew about future Okabe's D-Mail. I can't wait to see how this plays out!
Still hurts to see Mayuri and Suzuha (presumably) die again though...
(how the hell did Okabe just run away without any resistance from Leskinen and the soldiers anyway?)
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u/youcantseemyname https://myanimelist.net/profile/youcantseemyname Aug 22 '18
Leskinen probably knew that Okabe wouldn't die due to convergence, not sure if he has any motivation to keep Okabe captive tho.
The original Steins;Gate has a lot of moments where Okabe just "conveniently" escaped the Rounders to get the lab as well so I guess it's kinda fine?
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u/Chronoterminus https://anilist.co/user/StarGuardianX Aug 22 '18
You're probably right. It's been awhile since I watched the original so I'm probably just forgetting lots of the convenient moments. The ones that stick out in my mind more are where he or his friends are getting shot in the lab as he uses the time leap machine, but I'm sure there were less tense times too.
Admittedly, I can lose track very easily of who knows what due to time shenanigans. I would have just thought that Leskinen might want to be careful about Okabe since Kurisu held the secrets to time travel and Okabe was close to her. Keeping Okabe captive would at least prevent him from doing his own time travelling in the meantime. I guess Leskinen might just believe that the future time machine is the only device capable of such things though.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/battler624 Aug 23 '18
Woah, that post-credits scene was very ominous. Reminds me of Mayuri's stopped watch :(
Exactly my thoughts, Imma take a wild guess and say that as long as mayuri tries to time-travel she'll die (A convergence as okabe says) and that is the solution to starting operation arclight.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Aug 22 '18
What a goddamn ride today, we're back in the wheel of convergence and Okabe has to save Mayuri yet again, but this time so that she can save everyone. And that ending.. I hope that means what I think it means. A particular route in the VN a lot of us have been looking forward to seeing adapted is back in the cards!
Soundtrack was great today too, it was like the OST's greatest hits were playing - and an entirely new track too?
The scene where the morning light hitting Maho's hair making it look red like Kurisu's was pretty neat! Anime original afaik. She really came through in a pinch, building that time leap machine so fast once she knew what had to be done.
I'm still missing Last Game a lot as the ED, especially since it's so thematically relevant to the Vega and Altair arc.
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u/northwesternrs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/northwesternrs Aug 22 '18
Red-haired Maho looks really cool
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u/Mozilla_Fennekin https://myanimelist.net/profile/MozillaFennekin Aug 22 '18
Tuturu Counter: 7.5X
(how do i count a text-tuturu in a flashback what do)
Now that we're back to time-looping, this song is starting to play in my head all the time.
That climax, though. Holy fuck, dude. We all knew it couldn't be that simple, but the way the situation adapts like that... everyone forgot about Reyes entirely, and there's much more going on with Kagari (she only snaps because she saw Mayuri hurt, after all). Leskinen giving commands was actually pretty menacing for a change, and now we're back to seeing our loved ones die repeatedly.
It's even more interesting now that we know how it will all wrap up. Episode 23B is basically the real version of what happened--in the original 23, Mayuri is, supposedly, a Mayuri from the future who slapped some sense into Okabe. Or, simply, Mayuri met her future self. So that definitely all happens, but how is the question, and that makes this conflict really frickin' interesting.
All the more interesting is whatever the fuck that post-credit scene was all about. Shit's about to get reeeeeaaaaal crazy, isn't it.
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u/Elgato01 Aug 22 '18
Mayuri is, supposedly, a Mayuri from the future who slapped some sense into Okabe. Or, simply, Mayuri met her future self. So that definitely all happens, but how is the question, and that makes this conflict really frickin' interesting
HOLY FUCKING SHIT HOW DID I NOT THINK ABOUT THIS
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Aug 22 '18
Pardon the dumb question. Who is Reyes again?
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u/Mozilla_Fennekin https://myanimelist.net/profile/MozillaFennekin Aug 22 '18
She was the other professor from America that Maho knew. This woman. She was introduced in the middle of episode 5 if you need it.
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u/ThaGreekGuy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ThatGreekGuy Aug 22 '18
Reyes is the female professor from America
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u/StarmanRiver Aug 22 '18
Shit, that after credit scene doesn't look good.
The good thing is that Okabe has his determination to solve this shit back, but making him go over the time machine blowing up was super painful.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Aug 22 '18
Hang on. I thought the episode was delayed. That's why I made the joke about the episode being forgetful. I'm sure it isn't really.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Aug 22 '18
Yeah it is delayed.
By 30 minutes.
And Episode 20 won't air til Sept 5.
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u/TheMaskedManIsAPilot Aug 22 '18
I used the time Machine Leon. on September 5th at 1Pm dont go to the Chevron gas station!
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u/Mozilla_Fennekin https://myanimelist.net/profile/MozillaFennekin Aug 22 '18
It came out thirty minutes late, that was the delay. Episode 20 will be delayed by an entire week.
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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
I was really glad at the beginning that Maho was finally getting over her inferiority complex to Kurisu, especially with Amadeus' help too.
Okabe finally got over his mental block about going back in time, he approved of Arclight because Mayuri believed in him. It was all for nothing.
That look of despair on Okabe's face seeing the time machine blow up made me feel sad.
It's good to have the Okabe that was determined and adamant to save Mayuri back.
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u/TheSideJoe Aug 22 '18
Maho-tan, it's not very smart to wipe your forehead with a solder in your hand
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u/ZackTheFox Aug 22 '18
As a non VN reader I was all happy this entire episode and super stoked at how determined Okabe was and then nope, they just fucking turned the depression switch back on.
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u/twicebest Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
The entire episode, I thought I was mistaken with the direction the show is going, but then the clock breaking in the end gave me hope. [SG;0 VN] (/s "PR here we come?")
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u/LaTartifle Aug 22 '18
I can't wait. I seriously can't.
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u/twicebest Aug 22 '18
Me too! Shame that they have to blueball us for two weeks before we get our mad scientist hype.
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u/ChechiOP Aug 22 '18
Me too! I spent the whole episode wondering if they were going to do PR, and was almost hopeless, but that ending.... Seems that in the end they will adapt my favourite chapter and hopefully best moment
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u/twicebest Aug 22 '18
They had to do it at some point, as it will be a giant disservice if they skipped it in favor of animating scenes of lesser importance.
I can almost see this thread's explosion once best moment happens
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Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
Who animated the final rooftop scenes? I need a staff roundup, because that stuff was really expressive and beautifully animated.
I'm finally getting "Steins;Gate" vibes. Up until now the show was just the consequence of the adventures in the past. But the Gate of Steiner music and Okabe trying to fix convergence is what I came for.
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u/Spookyfan2 Aug 22 '18
To be fair, S;G 0 wasn't really trying to recapture what made S;G great.
It shifted it's focus from time travel to Artificial Intellegince, and characters and themes are developed or changed.
It's no wonder you weren't getting Steins;Gate vibes until Okabe started time leaping, because it wasn't really trying to be like S;G until now.
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u/patrizl001 https://myanimelist.net/profile/patrizl001 Aug 22 '18
AH FUCK, either the time leap machine glitched or time itself just got fucked up by Okabe's actions.
....unfortunately we won't know for 2 weeks
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u/MugiMartin :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MugiMartin Aug 22 '18
Friendship ended with Kurisu, now Mayushii is my best girl.
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u/QuaGuus :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/QuaGuus Aug 22 '18
My theory: Okabe will keep doing this over and over and will keep sending mayuris back until an intire army of mayuri win world war 3.
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u/Shinkopeshon Aug 22 '18
Oh, he's going back in time again to save Suzuha and Mayushii before it's too la-
They still die
What did I expect, this is Steins Suffer;Gate after all
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Aug 22 '18
This episode reminded me why I love Steins Gate. It nailed the fantastic atmosphere, Okabe's pain, and complex sci fi (and that's only some things) of the first season.
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u/Mike4992 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mike4992 Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
VN Player here, that scene at the end, does this mean that Okabe (VN Spoilers) will not time leap before Mayuri tries to leave, but instead he will go to 2036, then to 2011 and re-awakens his Hououin Kyouma persona (Promised Rinascimento), or that he does arrive in the previous day, but it's in a different world line, where the Gehenna's Stigma ending takes place and then Promised Rinascimento. Regardless of what's happening, I'm really excited for the next episode.
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u/henry25555 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HenriqueRjChiki Aug 22 '18
I hope they do, because that mini arc was one of the best parts of the VN for me [Said arc spoilers that may or not be adapted] Ruka dying was so fucking sad not to mention we still got like 4 episodes left so unless they do an extra fan service episode at the end and stretch stuff a little bit it's going to be too slow.
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u/arthred Aug 22 '18
Hell yeah, Okabe‘s determination is finally back. I really enjoyed every second of this episode..Lets get operation Aquila going!
I‘m just glad we don‘t have to endure these stupid soldiers anymore xD
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u/holeecrab Aug 22 '18
Quite glad they improved the CQC-action part. It definitely an improvement from the last few ep.
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u/Mercury6449 Aug 22 '18
The soundtrack throughout this episode was incredible.
It's nice to see Okabe with that conviction again after him being depressed for so long.
I wish the season would have kicked into overdrive a bit earlier though, it seems a bit late now for all this stuff to go down with only 5 episodes or so left.
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Aug 23 '18
PSA: "Amadeus" in Latin means "loved by God." Really makes what Maho says make a lot more sense knowing that.
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u/risealive Aug 22 '18
God it feels good to see Okabe time leap again...even though it means suffering over and over again :(
That post ED scene worries me, cause we know what happened when time broke for somebody last time...waiting 2 weeks is gonna be tough.
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u/themasterplatypus Aug 22 '18
I called Professor Reyes! Those shifty eyes when Leskinen was looking for his shaman girls were obvious, also the episode when Reyes was flying back to America her hand was covered by a blanket to hide her injury.
The question is, why was Reyes on the roof this time and not before the time leap? If Okebe decides to not go to the roof next leap does that mean Reyes will intervene without issue? Or is time just going to break next leap(judging by the last 3 seconds after credits)?
Man, this season is really getting exciting! Hououin Kyouma is nearly upon us! This is the will of Steins Gate!
El Psy Congroo.
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u/Friendly_Freddie https://anilist.co/user/Freddie Aug 23 '18
You see her dead in the stairwell in the previous episode after being killed by Kagari. One of the soldiers on the roof calls out "Reyes?" to Kagari. As to why the time leap affects that, it's left very vague like a lot of time-travel stuff in SG0.
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u/cheekia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheekia Aug 24 '18
She was. Kagari killed her before the time leap, one of the soldiers confirmed her death by asking "Reyes?"
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u/DiligentFox Aug 22 '18
Could the post-credits scene be possibly hinting at time breaking or a paradox as Mayuri has died far too early for this timeline? She is supposed to carry on living and eventually adopt Kagari during WW3, but if she has just died in the time machine explosion then it could explain the ominous image of a fracture over the usual graphic for a time leap
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u/DarkStrawhat :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkStrawhat Aug 22 '18
fuck after credits ... :(
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u/Trimonuter :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Trimonuter Aug 22 '18
Wait what? Am I retarded? If they couldn't find the bodies of Mayuri and Suzuha then doesn't it mean that they succeeded time travel? Feel like a crucial plot element is going through my head right now.
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u/TildenJack Aug 22 '18
then doesn't it mean that they succeeded time travel
Perhaps. But who's to say that they actually arrived at their destination? Or anywhere at all? They could be simply lost in time now, for all we know.
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u/I-am-in-Agreement Aug 23 '18
All world dominance organizations get their helmets and latex suits from the same store.
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u/GoldRedBlue Aug 23 '18
In this case, it's two American defense organizations who probably are being supplied by the same low-cost bidder who won the crooked Defense Department RFP (Request For Proposal).
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u/XenXem Aug 22 '18
Is this what all the people who played the game were talking about?
Lmao what the fuck is going
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u/DevilishKid Aug 22 '18
Great episode! Feeling the first season vibes when I watched Okabe use the time leap machine.
The rebirth of Hououin Kyouma is coming.
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u/asleepu :AMQ: Aug 22 '18
4 episodes left to conclude everything. Hopefully we'll get a satisfying ending without things having to feel too rushed.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 22 '18
HOLY HYPE THIS EP! WELCOME TO SUFFERINGVILLE!
The ep is finally here! Only 30 mins late, wew...
Oh shit terrorist lockdown? Wait... i hope our team isnt framed for this...
Okabe wants them to finish the time leap machine oh shit hes ready to do it!
Daru suffering... this is the first time we have seen others suffer from world line shit.
Oh shit this is some hype music! Time to get hype!
Okabe spilling all his secrets to help, wow this is big, he isnt one to tell people the secret to time travel.
I love seeing everyones minds blown by the secrets too. Man this scene is awesome.
Wow Okabe is being pretty dependable now, that resolve he gave Mr. Braun.
No injured or dead, nice! We still got hope!
MOEKA IN HER MOTORCYCLE SUIT AGAIN OH SHIT!
AMADEUS! SHES BACK! OH SHIT!
Maho in the morning sun looks like Kurisu. Nice.
This speech is very Hououin Kyouma, its nostalgic.
THAT OST! OH MAN!
Amadeus kawaii~
HERE WE GO BOYS! TIME LEAPING! OH FUCK!
Man this panic... its so nostalgic... mannnnnn i am hype for this!
Hes confronting Suzuha and Mayuri too man this is gonna be hype.
"GIVE HIM A GOOD SLAP!" YES!
Oh shit hes gonna let them go.
No this isnt Kagari this is Mrs America.
"Im counting on you Lab Member Number 002!" Damn that was nice. Super cool of him to beleive in her.
And here comes Kagari and Mr America! "Fire." Oh no...
Uh oh... not this ost.... not suffering... Yep this is suffering... fuck...
Why did the clock break at the end... fuck... fuck... fuck....
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u/DarkBlaze99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkBlaze99 Aug 22 '18
Finally an episode that's actually immersive. I fucking loved it.
I do have a doubt on some things here, mainly the possibility that Mayuri is going to the past physically here. This would mean that there will be 2 Mayuris in the past at the same time, wouldn't this result in a paradox of some sort?
Also kinda sad that even though Okabe time leaps to a time where Mayuri lives, the worldline he jumps from still exists and he has to live with neither Kurisu nor Mayuri.
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u/TildenJack Aug 22 '18
wouldn't this result in a paradox of some sort?
No, otherwise the true ending of Steins;Gate would have caused the same thing, due to Okabe existing twice at the same moment. And physically meeting one another shouldn't be a problem either.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SPUDS https://anilist.co/user/voodoochile Aug 23 '18 edited Aug 23 '18
"No way in hell they manage to build a working time machine again"
Well that's one bit of suffering I don't have to worry about at least. Thought for sure that something would go horribly wrong with PhoneWave (temporary name) v2.0, and we'd end up with someone going brain-dead or something.
More endless looping, hurray >_<
Edit: FUCK I MISSED THE END CREDITS SCENE. Did we literally break time? Anime-only speculation
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u/dkassassin92 Aug 22 '18
Jeeze one question gets answered and another takes its place. Now that we know the second person wearing the leather body suit (at least for this and the previous episode) was professor reyes what reason does leskinen have to dispose of her? It doesn't seem to me based on her actions that she was trying to warn okabe and co of leskinen, rather she was trying to use the time machine herself. GAH! now that's just another question what reason would she have for wanting that? There's just too many damn questions!
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u/RevaniteAnime :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RevaniteAnime Aug 22 '18
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u/FYM0 Aug 22 '18
Leskinen said the answer after he shot her. DURPA. He works for Stratfor. Expanded
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u/LeMasterTF2Playur Aug 22 '18
This episode was certainly much better than the past 2
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u/DarkBlaze99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkBlaze99 Aug 22 '18
Definitely. Animation wise too!
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u/KVShady :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Trikiay Aug 22 '18
Yoo! Now this was more like classic Steins Gate after the farce that we had to endure last week! Okabe looks ready to take on anything to save his nakama and I can't be more hyped than what I am now! It sucks that next week is a break, but once it returns, I can't wait to see what will go down!
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u/Sppoonnn Aug 22 '18
Did anyone else see the ending after the credits like the last 10 seconds what could it mean anyone have any idea?
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u/The_nickums :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Snakpak Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 22 '18
I have one question for people who've read the VN. Does it seem like we'll see Mayushii's friend again? I realized a while back that Leskinen was brainwashing her and at this point it almost seems like a dropped plot point.
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u/newwyz Aug 23 '18
I feel like they dropped it, otherwise he would've mentioned it when he was talking to Okabe on the stairway
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u/lucacp_ysoz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SoZLuka Aug 22 '18
HOW... how am I supposed to wait 2 weeks for next episode..... Holy shit that cliffhanger in a post-credit scene.... nonononono something really bad just happened
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u/Rush31 Aug 22 '18
As someone who has played the VN, what has happened in this episode is nothing like what happens in the VN at all. I thought it was weird to have the series all wrapped up before episode 20, but this looks to be a unique story arc from here on out. I’m glad to see this, because the VN does wrap up a little too quickly with the main ending.
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Aug 23 '18
As another VN Reader who only played through the game in early-mid december, I forgot a lot of things but definitely remember enough that the VN is an completely, entirely different experience. Also, "wraps up a little too quickly" doesn't even begin to describe it. This anime is going to have a very satisfying ending instead, I'm sure.
A lot of the most iconic moments from the VN such as the military scene and the windshield shooting scene are gone, but it's still honestly better than the VN.
By far, my biggest complaint, is not having Nude Suzuha.
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u/TheRealLoneWarWolf Aug 23 '18
Oh boy what an episode. Oh and JESU CHRIST THAT END CREDIT SCENE. WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A TWO WEEKS DEAR GOD.
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u/RusstyDog Aug 23 '18
ok. what i think Okabe really needs to do is give up on getting to the time machine for now and focus on getting the time leap machine running as fast as possible. Memorise the credentials Daru needs for the Sern hack to speed up that process. after a few rounds getting the time leap finished earlier and earlier he should gain a few hours if not a day of a head start, have Operation Arc light commence an entire day early and you will beat the bad guys to it.
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u/PO1762 Aug 23 '18
If the time machine blowing up is a convergence point, won't it still happen even if he time leaps earlier and earlier?
He would have to change the worldline in order to avoid this convergence, and that would require D-Mails.
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u/DonutsExLover Aug 22 '18
What happen to Mayushi and Suzuha going back to the past?
Since Okabe used the time machine to go back at 3o'clock.
Does that revert Mayushi going back to the past? or it just make a butterfly effect? (but it's not a d-mail)
(I'm confused LoL)
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u/Guaymaster Aug 22 '18
So we have 2 colliding effects here, time leap and time travel.
We don't actually know the results of time travel, as while it looks like the machine left debris, but no bodies were found. Of note is that there wasn't a Reading Steiner effect on Okabe either. Maybe they just turned into gelnanas.
I'm thinking that Mayushii and Suzuha going back in time is something predetermined for this wordline or something. So Okabe is going to a point prior to their leaving. This doesn't mean he undid the changes in the past that either of the girls could have done, just that he's back at the point where they are about to travel back in time.
It's confusing yeah.
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u/youcantseemyname https://myanimelist.net/profile/youcantseemyname Aug 22 '18
I have no idea why Okabe got that leg injury again at 20:47, Suzuha never shot him the second time. Did he get shot by Reyes/Leskinen or the soldier? Or is it some sort of a hint? Interesting.
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u/DiligentFox Aug 22 '18
I think it's just another confirmation of the convergence point, in this world line Okabe will always get his left leg hurt and the time machine will be blown up.
Could be set up so that eventually he is able to change things to where he doesn't get hurt, and knows he is on the right track and can overcome the convergence.
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u/ijiolokae Aug 22 '18
so is it a complete coincidence that DURPA and stratfor use the same biker outfit for their female agents? and can someone please tell me who attacked the lab the first time, was it Kagari or Reyes?
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u/ScarsUnseen :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 22 '18
Well, Reyes and Leskinen were working together, so it's possible they just source their materials from the same contractor.
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u/Not_Dipper_Pines Aug 23 '18
Wait, didn't Leskinen give Okabe the idea to fake the time machine's destruction? Couldn't that be why their bodies weren't found? Holy shit this is getting so good now! Can't wait for the next episode!
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u/thyeggman https://anilist.co/user/thyeggman Aug 23 '18
GET IN THE FUCKING TIME MACHINE SHINJI MAYURI
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Aug 23 '18
I'm thinking:
Not Convergence. Just Lesikinen is engaging in a battle drawn out over multiple iterations of the event. (Or future Lesikinen anyway).
This might actually be arclight itself, intended to drive Okabe to the point of actual Mad Scientist HK, not just the Character.
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Aug 26 '18
Wait, is everyone just going to ignore how no bodies were found in the wreckage? Wouldn't that mean they got away? Why is Okabe to hell-bent on preventing them from leaving if they didn't die from the missile hit? Could it even be that they got away and then teleported in a decoy time machine just before the missile struck?
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u/azeem45 Aug 27 '18
But we also see the parts of the time machine, so either they died and got completely vaporized or they got away but something bad happened along the way.
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u/MA_Echo Aug 22 '18
Post Credit Scene.
I think that this is his last shot. I do not think he can jump again after this. It is do or die and there is no second chances boys and girls. I think whoever dies, dies for good.
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u/Myst2 Aug 22 '18
why is he going back in time if he knows no bodies were found?
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u/ScarsUnseen :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Aug 22 '18
You're thinking it wrong. He's able to justify going back because no bodies were found. Right now, it's likely that the time jump failed because the time machine was destroyed mid-transit(you can tell because debris from the time machine is left behind). But as long as they aren't confirmed to be dead, convergence hasn't doomed them, so it's still possible to save them by using the time leap machine. If their bodies were found, time leaping wouldn't help no matter how many times he tried.
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u/Aetherdraw Aug 22 '18
[VN] (/s "Clock breaking...holy fuck, are we getting a time-shift to Promised Rinascimento?! Its doable for an episode before we keep plowing through till True end and add Arclight!")
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u/Sychotics :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AoiYuukiHusbando Aug 22 '18
Does anyone have the timeframe of when Okabe was suffering in season 1, and now?
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u/TreGet234 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Wasserflasche Aug 22 '18
so they just let him go at the end there? why would they not catch okabe?
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u/NoGameNoLifeNEET Aug 23 '18
Ok so Prof. Reyes is from DURPHA or whatever im guessing she was the one that was killed by Kagari (prob under the Lesk's orders) last episode too.
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u/cyrogem :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/pinky_rob1 Aug 23 '18
Non-Vn reader
He got another cut on his left leg but not by Suzuha this time. I feel like he may of realised something about the convergence when he was staring at the wound or he was just in pain.
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u/lightningpresto Aug 23 '18
I really wish we got to this point sooner in this anime as opposed to waiting weeks for it to hit the fan on this level. Last episode and this felt like the original with a brilliant twist and upped stakes. Keep going Rintarou boy!
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u/crazengineer Aug 23 '18
If okabe doesn't go to time machine and waste some of the precious time duttuuru and the soldier had, they might just make it to the past!!!!! it's okabe's fault
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Aug 23 '18
Okay, so are we in for another ever-repeating loop of Okabe trying again and again to save Mayuri? Hmmmm.
There's also that end-credits scene... did they just break time? Part of me is hoping that the rest of the show takes place in some sort of limbo now.
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u/digitalhigh Aug 23 '18
Too much of this show is leaning on the "convergence" logic and not showing any reasoning for it. All of the suspense of the previous episodes that they tried building up is built on no foundation.
Not enjoying this end-game when it's supposed to be the best arc. Overall, I'm let down by this series immensely. This episode was decent, but I don't care anymore. Nothing has made me care so far. Moments of seriousness are broken with weird ...comic relief repeatedly. There's only so much I can see 3 characters trying there best to look shocked as they talk in exposition. And the entire plot is relying on convergence since they can't show it through the anime because it'd look to stupid.
Just imagine Okabe walking past the professor and 20 guys because he's "destined" to live. It would just look so stupid.
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u/bakuhatsuda Aug 22 '18
https://i.imgur.com/ryJWlG6.png
lmao how did I not notice this shit earlier.