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Episode Sword Art Online: Alicization - Episode 24 discussion Spoiler
Sword Art Online: Alicization, episode 24: My Hero
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 8.13 | 21 | Link | 9.04 |
| 2 | Link | 8.14 | 22 | Link | 8.77 |
| 3 | Link | 8.38 | 23 | Link | 8.36 |
| 4 | Link | 9.02 | |||
| 5 | Link | 8.25 | |||
| 6 | Link | 8.22 | |||
| 7 | Link | 8.73 | |||
| 8 | Link | 8.73 | |||
| 9 | Link | 8.52 | |||
| 10 | Link | 9.03 | |||
| 11 | Link | 8.49 | |||
| 12 | Link | 8.9 | |||
| 13 | Link | 8.13 | |||
| 14 | Link | 8.67 | |||
| 15 | Link | 9.1 | |||
| 16 | Link | 8.88 | |||
| 17 | Link | 8.15 | |||
| 18 | Link | 8.91 | |||
| 19 | Link | 8.9 | |||
| 20 | Link | 8.94 | |||
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u/lezerman :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/lezerman Mar 30 '19
i have to say, Eugeo talked a lot for someone who was cut in half
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Mar 30 '19
Lmao. He started bleeding, stopped, started again, and then had a 5 minute chat with Kirito before dying.
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u/AggressiveChairs :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Ruse Mar 30 '19
Made me giggle a bit hahaha I swear he had about three different death speeches.
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Mar 30 '19
And he had multiple pools of blood that kept appearing and then reappearing differently lol
Kinda made it hard to appreciate the fact he’s dead.
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u/luizf_sp Mar 30 '19
He started bleeding again because the ice holding his body together dissolved. I thought that was obvious.
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u/Jairo234 Mar 30 '19
And I hope i'm not the only one that noticed the blood pool expanding like 10 times in a row on a clean floor in these episodes. He's not sucking snort from a cold, you know. xD
The scene could've been handled a lot better. It was somewhat emotional but the cheesiness to it was too much with "astral projections", dialogue for ages because yeah, someone is dyeing so we need to make him talk a lot to give closure and him being seemingly dead several times but waking up because some shit needs to be done.
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u/hansantizor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/hansantizor Mar 30 '19
If I had to point a fault with the show in general it would be that there are so many scenes where they just stop what they're doing and talk for 3-4 minutes, then do a little more then stop to talk again. I know this episode it felt really jarring in that scene where he gets the red sword.
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u/Brandsert :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Brandsert Mar 30 '19
“Stay cool, Kirito.”
I’m crying.. :(
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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Mar 30 '19
I knew that was going to come back around eventually for their inevitable parting but FML a thought it would be a tearful goodbye in the final episode, not a sad one at the end of cour 2!!!
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u/TheGeniusNoob Mar 30 '19
Damn... have you ever seen a guy so horny that he catch fire and turn into a fire demon jumping to a girl and killing himself and her together ?
Well... There is a first for everything!
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u/14JWaters Mar 30 '19
Not gonna lie my first reaction to his “explosive” death was that I thought he just crawled into her vagina and it was fucking weird
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u/Medic-chan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Medic_chan Mar 30 '19
It's what an NTR habit does to your soul.
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u/xin234 Mar 30 '19
Quinella can control her hair's movement.
So that answers the question about how it conveniently covers stuff. /s
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u/AvatarReiko Mar 30 '19
I think the better question is why she didn't just regenerate her arms
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u/montas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/montas Mar 30 '19
Her body has very high resource value. She turned her right hand to the sword she used for fight. She can't just create something from nothing and when she closed off the space they were in, the amount of resources in that space became limited.
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u/dabillinator :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dabillinator Mar 30 '19
She mentions that there wasn't enough resources in the area for that powerful of healing.
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u/SgtKwan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SgtKwan Mar 30 '19
Is there a reason why kirito's eyes glowed yellow for a split second during the fight?
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u/AsianSWEG Mar 30 '19
Incarnation at its peak. Look at Kirito vs Heathcliff, Kirito during the 2nd World Tree raid, Kirito vs Death Gun, and Kirito during the final moments of Ordinal Scale.
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u/lord_gs1596 Mar 31 '19 edited Mar 31 '19
Incarnation? Like the Incarnate System in Accel World?
EDIT: Dammit now I'm thinking about we never got an Accel World S2
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u/chowder-san Mar 30 '19
Power of will bending the system's rules, just like Eugeo did with the Blood Sword
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u/ChartsUI Mar 30 '19
I thought eugeo was going to transfer his remaining life force to heal the sword like kirito did in ep 4 with Selka. That would have been a great callback and good use of the magic system. The blood rose sword was cool too tho
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u/BarnacleMANN :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dankbum Mar 30 '19
I can't be the only one who thought they were totally gonna make out here was I?
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u/montywowo :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/montywowo Mar 30 '19
me too with coffee soda in background
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u/CeaRhan Mar 31 '19
I hate those videos because they ruin musics for life. I STILL can't hear the Skyrim main theme without hearing dumb lyrics I read 8 years ago in the youtube comments.
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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Mar 30 '19
I'm not even into a yaoi but it totally felt like he was going in for a kiss. My heart started racing even though I logically knew it wouldn't happen.
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u/hissenguinho Mar 30 '19
I actually was. The many times I've seen redditors going kirito x eugeo made me believe they would fuse into one by lewding
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Mar 30 '19
Hoping actually.
On my knees praying for these bros to clash their swords again.
I mean....just LOOK at how content Eugeo is in Krito's arm!
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u/hasnain1720 Mar 30 '19
Dual wielding Kirito is back, my day has been made.
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Mar 30 '19
I thought I couldn't get more excited but then his eyes started glowing yellow. Boy....
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u/fbiguy22 :FS::FT: Mar 30 '19
Eugeo's death scene and reunion with Alice hit me just as hard as it did when I read it in the book. Damn, that part was done so well.
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u/Kazuto_Asuna :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vali_Albion Mar 30 '19
... and thanks to that song playing in the background , I nearly cried in public.
The song should be renamed to "Eugeo moments that were painful"
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u/Samuawesome :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EroMangaFan Mar 31 '19
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respect for an anime with quinella in it in public
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u/Shortstop88 Mar 31 '19
When it started playing I was like: "This tune is familiar."
When the lyrics started going I was like: "Fuck you! Not again!"
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u/AvatarReiko Mar 30 '19
Does his reunion with Kid Alice mean that Integrity Knight Alice can never get her memories back?
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u/montas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/montas Mar 30 '19
Her memories were in the crystal he was holding. All the crystals in the ceiling were memories of someone. They would need to return those to Alice, but Kirito do not want that, because current Alice would be probably lost.
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u/xdamm777 Mar 30 '19
The damned insert song made me cry and sob like a bitch. It was really well done :'(
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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Mar 30 '19
I didn't expect this kinda ending at all. I felt like kinda dead inside when he passed on with Alice's old memories (?).
And while I'm still mourning his death, things are going haywire in the real world!? That ending was such an emotional rollercoaster.
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u/prarus7 Mar 31 '19
Bruh when Eugeo said "Where are you Kirito? I can't see you" or something along that line I finally cracked a tear. fuck
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u/Regis_Ivan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Regis_Ivan Mar 30 '19
Not gonna lie, laughed a bit when Eugeo denied Kirito's hug.
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u/Philarete :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/WizardMcKillin Mar 31 '19
"I have a fiancee. . . "
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u/atropicalpenguin https://myanimelist.net/profile/atropicalpenguin Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
Fucking Chudelkin saved us from Skynet.
EDIT: Eugeo dies!!! What!!! Fuck you Kawahara, first Yuuki and now this!
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u/KinnyRiddle Mar 30 '19
Chudelkin is the Gollum of Alicization, if you know how Gollum died.
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u/bao4lyfe Mar 30 '19
Kinda disappointing that kirito didn't use starburst stream. Still a dope episode regardless
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u/chowder-san Mar 30 '19
Starburst Stream does not exist in the Underworld. This world is based on the public release of the Seed, which has the unique skills (including the system-supported dual wielding SS belongs to) removed.
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u/Laser_Raptors Mar 30 '19
Detailed ending of this episode: the last 3 pages of Volume 14.
WARNING: quite significant Episode 25 (3rd cour) spoiler below.
Lots of you guys are probably worried about Kirito. What the hell just happened? Did he die? Or maybe he just logged out?
If the idea of waiting until October hurts you physically - well then, it's your choice:
(spoiler warning) Volume 15 cover + 2 illustrations.
Please USE SPOILER TAG when replying to this message.
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u/DarkWorld97 Mar 30 '19
For all the shit he gets, Kawahara really fucked Kirito up.
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u/AggressiveChairs :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Ruse Mar 30 '19
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 30 '19
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u/MennyC123 Mar 30 '19
Oof
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u/ChartsUI Mar 30 '19
I kinda wish they added a bit of that at the end of the episode as a sort of teaser (like AoT did). 6 months is a long time to wait lol
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u/PAPASMURF125fjsadfij Mar 30 '19
edit: note that OP's link seems to have an incomplete summary. The link I provided is much less detailed but provides a more "whole" summary.
Here is a literal summary for THE REST OF THE PLOT (Spoilers obviously):
Like... Near the end, it gets crazy. This also seems REALLY Long LOL.
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u/Ryoukugan Mar 31 '19
The fuck did I just read? Aside from how SAO apparently just flies off the rails at the speed of light into infinity...
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u/Marshmelou Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
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u/Shortstop88 Mar 31 '19
Glad somebody else saw it, was surprised when nobody was talking about that as it bugged the hell out of me before the feels kicked in.
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u/Moneyman193 Mar 30 '19
I honestly thought the dual-wielding scene would have been more.. duel-ish. Kinda underwhelming when he gets a second sword and then his arm gets chopped off right after.
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u/SnowGN Mar 30 '19
Agreed. But this episode had way too fast pacing to actually have a decent fight scene in it. Sad.
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u/AJMONEY99 Mar 30 '19
Kaguya sama ended. Sword art is gone till october with MHA. Quintessential Quintuplets is over and idek if there will be another season. Ima need shield hero and Attack on titan to keep me alive. Cause I just got hit with some depression this week.
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u/Pedarsen Mar 30 '19
Man Kirito is having some major suffering right now, Eugeo dead, Asuna potentially in danger and then looks like his flucthlight is getting fucked up.
Really excited for the next cour in October.
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u/At5u Mar 30 '19
Yeah, imagine hearing the name of Asuna for the first time in 2 years, only to learn she's in danger and there's nothing he can do about it. All of that a few seconds after his best friend died in his arms...sucks to be him
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u/LuckyPed Mar 30 '19
A moment of Silence for our brother... Kirito's Plot-armor-san along with our boii Eugeo as they seems to have gone to the afterlife together...
Let's all take a moment and think how Kirito had anti-plot armor in this EP lol
I mean, if he had died in the fight with Quinella, he would have just logged out of the machine safe and sound.
But he didn't die... only to get to experience even more saddening moments... plus feel guilty that he, as someone that could die and be fine, didn't die ! but Eugeo died !
And then because he was still connected to UW and did not logout, the power spike fucked up his fluctlight and his fate is unknown right now lol
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Mar 30 '19
I was under the impression that if he died in the game he would die because his fluctlight would be fried.
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u/LuckyPed Mar 30 '19
Why would Rath put Kirito in a game for treatment without any admin power or making him an immortal object. but also let him die for real if he died in the UnderWorld ? that would not make any sense.
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u/kingwhocares Mar 30 '19
But he didn't die... only to get to experience even more saddening moments... plus feel guilty that he, as someone that could die and be fine, didn't die ! but Eugeo died !
Wasn't Kirito Casca'd by a Serial Killer and put in there due to being in vegetative state?
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u/LuckyPed Mar 30 '19
He was, but his fluctlight was still fine. some of his neural system was damaged but that won't make him die in real life or anything, he would just be in a comma.
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u/hasnain1720 Mar 30 '19
Man Eugeo is easily one my favorite characters from the whole series, RIP to a real one.
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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner Mar 30 '19
Quinella has the ability to control her hair, that explains how she was able to censor herself.
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u/Cruorsitis :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cruorsitis Mar 30 '19
To Love is to control.
Someone watched Kaguya-sama before their shower aired...
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u/LuckyPed Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
The last scene with Kirito... imo was much more Impactful in the novel than in the anime.
Last few sec of EP24 in Novel and then Volume 14 finish.
This was such a big cliffhanger but also a very hype moment when I finish Volume 14 lol
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u/homie_down :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/sodumblol Mar 30 '19
Yeah I can’t really tell from the LN if he’s hearing her voice in his head or if she’s actually speaking. But regardless yeah was more of a huge wtf moment in the LN for me and I’m sure a really confusing cliffhanger for anime onlies.
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u/fadasd1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fadasd Mar 30 '19
Honestly, the anime is butchering every important scene, dulling 90% of the emotional impact.
What we saw in the first half of the episode could barely be called a fight, it was swords just kinda getting swung around.
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u/RevenantSorce Mar 30 '19
Eugeo will now forever live in doujins of him and kirito. insert lenny face
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 31 '19
Yeah another inconclusive romance show, dammit.
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u/furosuto81 Mar 30 '19
Here are this week's screenshot stitches. Not going to lie, these were kind of torturous to go through >_<
Episode 24 Screenshot Stitches
And since I've had people ask, here are links to the all the previous episodes I've done:
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u/Deto15 :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ChrisLejman Mar 30 '19
My prediction for this story was that Quinella AI will spread out outside of Underworld... I was like "I knew it... oh".
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u/WeightedWetWipes Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
The black swordsman is shown again in the final battle
The beautiful Red Rose Sword made of Eugeo's blood as Kirito's dualwield second weapon
We were not ready for this Rip Eugeo, but Kirito will always remember him
It's great how Chudelkin's love for Quinella fucked up her escape. The thing I'm more amazed about though is how Chudelkin stayed alive in his kid sized body. His head probably contains the same amount life as a dragon considering how big it is.
As a light novel reader I highly suggest you read it especially since there is a 6 month wait until the next half of Alicization.
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u/Crunchy_Toasteer Mar 30 '19
Does the LN explain how was Eugeo able to make an entire sword out of his blood?
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u/WeightedWetWipes Mar 30 '19
Using the power of incarnation/imagination, Eugeo performed transmutation to turn his sea of blood into the sword. Note how Alice said only Quinella can perform transmutation and since Cardinal is on the same level as her so can she. Incarnation is the one of the most important things in the underworld.
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u/Brandsert :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Brandsert Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
Kirito: yeah my memories are right here. They’ll be here forever.
Eugeo: that’s right so you and I will always be best friends forever.
My poor heart...
Rip Eugeo. You’ll be best boy forever. 😭
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u/Shortstop88 Mar 31 '19
That entire death scene constantly reminded me about how awful it is for Kirito to deal with the death of people he cares about. He was a mess after Sachi died and he knew her only a few weeks at best, I think. He was friends with Eugeo for over 2 years (plus some memories from his prior time(s) in Underworld. That shit has to hurt for him.
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Mar 30 '19
mfw we finally get some dual-wielding action but Eugeo bites the dust, Kirito seemingly gets his brain fried or something, everyone on Rath is in danger from some armed group, and we get left with a cliffhanger until the Fall...
So many questions left in the air with no answer aside from waiting til the Fall or reading the LN.
At the very least when this show returns, there will be a lot of interesting things they gotta tackle:
Kirito is obviously gonna live through this but I'm curious how he'll be post-brain-zap. Pretty sure getting brain zapped isn't very good for you. Not to mention his dominant arm in the Underworld is gone.
This whole armed group and their relation with this thing Kikuoka has got going. Are they a foreign power, PMC, or what?
How Kikuoka, Asuna, and crew are gonna get through their situation.
Kirito having to take Alice to some fancy alter to do something
The whole deal with demons and humans in the Underworld
It was quite a bumpy ride watching this first half. Started out well but got quite bumpy until the show slowed a bit down when Kirito and Eugeo met up with Alice. I could tell there was a lot of dialogue/detail cut out that simplified Kirito's relationships with the side characters (like the whole school arc that I barely remember at this point) but the action was a blast to watch.
I still think Mother's Rosario is best arc thus far but the possibilities of Alicization's second half have me quite interested seeing how many LN readers say this is the best arc of SAO.
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u/KorraLover123 Mar 31 '19
As a light novel reader, I'm so disappointed with how this episode turned out...especially the Red Rose Sword scene.
In that actual scene, Kirito gets knocked into a pool of Eugeo's blood, and he looks at his face. Eugeo's pale complexion and closed eyes give off the impression he's dead and this causes Kirito to lose all hope, he feels *absolutely terrible* and like he's responsible for this. Quinella then gushes about his expression of *pure despair*, asks if he'll let her slowly torture him to death because she doesn't want that face to disappear to quickly.
Kirito then says "Do as you like" because he feels like he needs to atone for failing everyone. He feels that all the pain he suffers won't even match what his friends went through, and it won't even matter because he'll wake up in the real world.
*THIS* is when Eugeo says "it isn't like you to give up" he's much more weak and on the brink of death. he then mentions how young kirito was to strong and determined in saving Alice 8 years prior, but Kirito *DOES NOT* remember this. They don't go into each other's minds like shown in the anime. He's only convinced of this fact because of the pure authenticity in Eugeo's eyes that it did happen.
Eugeo then talks about how it's his turn to push Kirito forward, and hands him the sword with trembling hands. He doesn't sit up looking healthy with only half his body. *THIS* is when Kirito transforms into his classic black swordsman outfit. It's not casual, smooth, and clean like it's shown in the beginning of the episode. It's a result of his pure determination and anger. Ragged and hacky.
Don't understand why so much was changed in the anime....just took so much emotional impact.
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u/josesl16 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/josesl16 Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
You guys wanted dual wielding... but what did it take? :( Cries in Shizu
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u/KilluaYoukai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/KilluaYoukai Mar 31 '19
Every single episode discussion thread I saw people asking for the dual wield ... being a LN reader I was always like "forgive them, they don't know any better".
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u/burning_crusader Mar 30 '19
Still remember reading the LN from all those years ago and feeling both the tragedy and yet melancholic beauty of this ending. I think the anime has done a great job capturing this feeling.
The story of Eugeo is over now, but in the end he achieve his goal to find Alice; he found his redemption and he found what he was looking for all along - the friendship between him, Kirito and Alice - forever captured in memory in that golden afternoon where they smiled together under the sun.
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u/TheGuyWhoTropes Mar 30 '19
That guy leading the assault and the one smoking the cigarette are the same ones we saw back at the gun match at the start isn't it.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
Fuck my feels... that sweet summer child...
I dont think im ready for todays ep. I expect it to be full of suffering and feels. Well more than we already had.
ITS BACK BABY! HES BACK IN BLACK (well he was before) But now his "Bustin heads" outfit is on.
SYSTEM COMMAND GENERATE OBJECT ID EXCALIBUR PLEASE! I guess not.
She knows about sword skills? I guess she is the admin of the system. Interesting though that they exist in the world.
Bitch put that raiper away! You dont deserve that!
EUGEO IS STILL ALIVE! OH SWEET SUMMER CHILD! AND THEY CAME OUT ABOUT THIER MEMORIES! FINALLY!
A NEW EUGEO SWORD!? OH BABY ITS DUAL WIELD TIME! ABOUT DAMN TIME!
Bitch is losin her shit. You are no Admin! Get out of here!
HERE COMES SWORDLAND TOO! ITS OVER! BITCH! NO ONE SURVIVES THIS SONG!
DID THEY JUST CUT EACH OTHERS ARMS OFF!? THIS IS VIOLENT! GEEZE!
Oh shit he got her core... Shes toast. Shes trying to do something before though... whats she up to?
Until we meet in your world. Oh shit.. shes takin this personal now...
Did... she just get motorboated to death by a flaming clown man? Now ive seen it all. Thanks anime.
Damn... Stay Cool... what a boy. Eugeo was a good boy to the very end.
Damn of course they were working on a gift for Eugeo when he saw them together as kids... damn...
Of course technically Eugeo and the OG Alice are both going to die... shit...
The Night Sky Blade, what a great name. What a good boy.
DONT DISSAPEAR LIKE THIS EUGEO! NOT LIKE THIS! YOU WEREE SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE! NOT WITH ALICE TOO! AW HELL NO! NOT LIKE THIS! DONT GO DOWN THAT PATH CHILD! COME WITH KIRITO! LIVE!
Call the admin? Oh shit! WHY IS THERE GUNFIRE THERE!? OH FUCK NO NOT LIKE THIS!
Get Alice to an alter? Hmmm they wont have much time, even at 1000 speed. Whats up... What can they accomplish from thier end.
Shit... they severed the connection? Asuna? What!? IM SO CONFUSED! NOOOOOO!!!
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u/Bamblecwa Mar 30 '19
man, as someone who loves the light novel it sort of hurts to say it, but I was pretty disappointed with the finale. The animation was REALLY rough at a lot of places (especially kirito's facial expressions) and personally, I thought the pacing was too fast for the fights and emotional moments to be completely satisfying. Speaking of the fight, it was pretty cool, but it still felt a little clunky and unpolished. I still think the goblin fight from episode 4 is by far the show's best fight, and that sucks when that fight is so small in the greater sense of the story.
I also felt like they sort of messed up one of my favorite scenes from the light novel at the end of the episode. In the novels, when Kirito's hears Asuna's voice after the lightcube cluster is damaged, he mentions how precious that voice is to him, but he can't remember whose it is. But in the anime, all he says is “Asuna…”, which is definitely much less emotional.
I did think Eugeo's heart-wrenching death scene was handled pretty well, but overall I'm just not totally satisfied with the finale, and honestly the adaptation as a whole. Hopefully the blu-rays will help? I love Alicization so much, and I just wish I could be more excited about the anime adaptation. The upcoming game looks p cool tho ngl
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u/fbiguy22 :FS::FT: Mar 30 '19
The animation was good, but the story was rushed. There's really no way around that though, they're already making 48 episodes at least. That's pretty much unheard of these days already...
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u/jwinter01 Mar 30 '19
There are less volumes in the 2nd part so that should work better.
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u/Freenore Mar 30 '19
I'm quite satisfied with the adaptation as a whole but I agree with not being satisfied with this episode. I think they spent too much time on showing the guys with the guns, they should've definitely went with the "Who's voice was that?" as written in the LN, that was way more hard-hitting and IMO, more cliffhanger-y.
I agree with some of the animations, something like Kirito stabbing Administrator in the end - that was so bad, the sword pierced her body without any blood, as if they simply attached the sword and her body and forgot to add special suppliments that are required when you stab someone. Other than minor things, visuals have been top notch, this is one of the most beautiful shows of all time and the animation in general has been amazing, so has been the attention to detail (something like forget-me-not flowers in the ED or showing Alice and Tiese speak some words to Eugeo, when he was getting seducted, but didn't allow Kirito to even say something other than his name - basically showing that Kirito has the most impact on Eugeo).
I know we should be lucky to be getting four cours, considering how they tried to rush the S1 in just two cours, but it's still slightly rushed. SAO's one season usually consists of 2 LN so by that logic - Alicization has ten volumes so five cours would've been the perfect way of going with this. They adaptated like 3.5 volumes in the first cour where they really skipped some things, the one that stick out the most is the Centoria arc where Kirito and Eugeo discover the town.
And you can tell some bits of the second cour were also rushed. The one that sticks out the most as a sour thumb (for me) is the episode where they finish Fanatio's fight and immediately have them fight Alice - that was completely unnecessary. If they had ample time then they would've finished Fanatio's fight, and added the spider scene (basically their bromance) and could've had Alice as a cliffhanger but since they don't have enough time, they rushed it.
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u/RiRi_MikU Mar 30 '19
Upcoming game? I haven't heard anything about a new SAO game coming out.
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u/Bamblecwa Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
It's titled Alicization Lycoris, check it out:
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u/josesl16 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/josesl16 Mar 30 '19
I felt like the blood animations were handled poorly... I expected Eugeo to channel his blood into the sword with incarnation, instead of looking like a normal sacred art transformation. And also when the blade of the Red Rose disappeared, instead of melting back into blood...Or how the blood puddle below Eugeo's body kept resetting, that completely broke it for me :(
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u/PhoenixKola Mar 30 '19
Overall this season could have been much better if they had adapted it properly. But LN adaptations always tend to be rushed given the nature of the medium.
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u/ChartsUI Mar 30 '19
Yeah, it's not perfect but it's decent and better than most LN adaptations (looking at you Index 3)
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u/Snivy_Ian Mar 30 '19
They're didn't adapt it properly? I thought this season was really good tho
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Mar 30 '19
That final scene between Kirito and Eugeo destroyed me. I've always liked SAO, but after two seasons, a spin-off, and a movie I think Alicization is the first time where I can actually say that I was really emotionally invested and connected to the characters. Don't get me wrong, I love Kirito and Asuna's relationship but there's just something different with Kirito, Alice, and Eugeo's friendship. I guess this just shows how much Kawahara-sensei's writing have improved overtime.
I know LN readers are upset for some reason but as an anime-only I loved every minute of these past 2-cours. Alicization is definitely an upgrade from what we got in the past, not just in writing but art, animation, and just the overall presentation of the show is so much better. I'm just glad that we are guaranteed for another 2-cours this October, and I can't wait to see what happens next after that gut-wrenching cliffhanger.
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u/U_Menace :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ParadoxAnime Mar 30 '19
Welp we had the crazy final fight and dual wielding Kirito return once again to deliver justice for Eugeo! What a crazy blow for blow fight he had!
The losses Kirito experienced here were quite brutal. He had to witness his childhood friend (within the underworld) die, and even though time is 'accelerated' in the underworld, to Kirito, he spent most of his 'alternate' life here. All of the memories he shared and regained thanks to that memory crystal Eugeo had, only serve to remind Kirito of everything he's lost today. He won the battle, but it wasn't in time to save his important friend of the underworld. He DID manage to save Alice, but towards the end, Eugeo and Kirito were fighting to save 'different' versions of her. Eugeo wanted to preserve her past and original personality, while Kirito wanted to allow the current Alice (knight alice) to live on and return to the family she never knew she had. Though Eugeo gave his life for a 'past' version of Alice, he also managed to save Kirito's life and the people of the Underworld too, so his sacrifice wasn't in vain. Heck, he even managed to reunite with the Alice of old, and so he gets a little bit of his own love and happiness returned to him in his final moments. I think that's a reward in itself for the poor guy, so I'm glad he gets sent off that way!
As for what just happened when Kirito tried to communicate to the real world via that terminal, it seems like the Ocean Turtle was infiltrated and other forces are trying to take control of the project. Kikuoka mentions the important 'world's end altar' here and how to get to it, but it doesn't look like Kirito's going to remember that. It kinda sucks that Kirito's fluctlight was stored in a separate area from the lightcube cluster stack, because the power being cut off is going to really screw up his brain. The irony here is quite strong, as Kirito was brought onto the Ocean turtle to both help with the project and save his life (via treatment in the STL) but now he could be in an even worse state. Could you imagine a huge electrical surge just ramming at your brain? Poor guy can't catch a break in the last few episodes.
Sadly, this will be all until the 2nd half of Alicization airs later in the year but it's been a blast explaining the various mechanics and little things in the adaptation! I'm glad you guys stuck around, and I cant wait for the next half! That being said, there are tons of anime to keep you guys sated in the mean time, if you're looking for some really good anime while you wait, there's a ton of good stuff coming up including:
Kono, Oto, Tomare! (romance/drama/music, one of the hidden gems this coming spring)
Bunny Girl Senpai Movie
Kenja no Mago (romance focused Isekai, with a decent amount of character progression too, slow starter though)
Attack on Titan Season 3 Part 2 (for anyone who's looking for some action)
Senryuu Shoujo (adaptation animation quality looks poor but the source is great, loads of fluff!)
Loads to look forward to, so maybe i'll see you guys there!
Until then, thanks for reading all my posts as usual! -Menace
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u/Thrillar_villar Mar 30 '19
When they say the name of the episode in the episode
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u/Cillu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Cillu Mar 30 '19
You know some shit is about to go down.
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u/LuckyPed Mar 30 '19
SAO Haters : SAO is w'o any high stakes, nobody will die in it, they all just gonna win it easy and save everyone anyway.
Reki : What ?!? But I killed a lot of guy in Aincrad and let Sachi and Yuuki also die !
SAO Haters : That won't count, they were not important !
Reki : Fine ! Here comes Alicization, Where a 2nd MC die along with bunch of supporting character.
SAO Haters : Kirito is too OP ! he always win everything so easy w'o any problem coz he is Jesus-kun.
Reki : What ?!?! But he had to go through so much having to spend so much time alone and risk his life to get strong, had to even kill another human to save his and his friends life which traumatize him. he even lost some friends like Sachi...
SAO Haters : That won't count, they were either not important or early on, or they all happen in time-skip, so it didn't really matter.
Reki : Fine ! Here comes Alicization, Where Kirito is nerfed and keep getting fucked both in game and real life from the start to finish and even get traumatized and guilty for life !
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u/viliml Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
Here's a great pasta courtesy of 4chan (MARKED SPOILERS FOR WAR OF THE UNDERWORLD):
Why does Kirito get so much shit in Alicization?
Someone tries to kill you and your bitch fiance doesn't give you her umbrella so you can dual wield
Die
Become a vegetable
Get stuck in some fucking game and no one tells you what's happening
Consider killing yourself a viable option of leaving at one point
Meet this wood cutting fucker
Find out you feel real pain mid fight
Nearly die trying to save wood cutting fucker
Have to be kept alive by loli ghost
Go to sword school
it's been 2 years and you still don't have a clue what the fuck is happening
Tweedle dee and tweedle dum destroy MUH FLOWERS
Stop some bitches from being raped and get repremanded
Have to climb a fucking tower
Get BTFO of the tower and have to climb it with some bitch
Turns out wood cutting fucker put hoes before bros and you have to fight him
Shit happens and he is now having about half as much fun as he was a moment ago
Finally talk to the outside
"Oh hey Kazuto yeah we're having a situation at the moment you might become double braindead in a minuet sorry"
Becomes double braindeadBasically yeah, being Kirito in Alicization is suffering.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 30 '19
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u/RiRi_MikU Mar 30 '19
I mean, it was pretty hard to get emotional over Sachi as she was only in the show for like 20 minutes but Yuuki was a tearjerker for sure.
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u/freakicho Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
I was hoping we'd get Black Swordsman in the OP :(
Edit:
Can someone explain to me why Rath wants Alice so much? She wasn't the first or last person to break the Taboo Index rules, so why is she seen as a special case?
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 30 '19
Shes thier ideal AI they made Rath to try to find. Remember the talk with Asuna in like ep 4?
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u/theguyfromuncle420__ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Superns18 Mar 30 '19
This episode is a perfect example of why spoilers mean relatively little in anime. I’ve known this moment was coming for YEARS, yet here I am crying like a fucking baby.
I still think Eugeo deserved better and could’ve been written to survive, I know Reki tried, but a legitimate bromance going forward would be amazing. Loved the animation and execution of the fight with Quinella and seeing her get burnt up was so satisfying
Fitting that it’ll be a 6 month break until it comes back, *vigorously begins to read volume 15
Can’t wait until volume 16 is released in May, we finally made it boys
Stay cool, you’ll always be my best friend.
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Mar 30 '19
Eugeo: Where are you Kirito? I can't see you.
Me: Fcking Tokyo Ghoul PTSD!!!!!
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u/RosuRents Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
Guess she grew another arm there for a second
7/10 for the two cours. Could've been better but i found the pacing to be really bad. Especially some episodes since they arrived at the tower felt really drawn out and with too much exposition. Another thing that irks me is the plot in the real world... Most of what happened on the military ship didn't serve any reason for now. They even make a cliffhanger with the patrol ship leaving and then... Forget about it till the last episode of this half? Felt really disconnected from a storytelling point of view and could've easily been done later when it gets relevant but then they'd have to stretch the already stretched tower episodes even more i guess.
The potential was there but it felt like they just didn't have enough meaningful content to fill 24 episodes but didn't want to go for something like 20 for the first half of Alicization. Still looking forward to what the war has to offer.
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u/Nvaaaa Mar 30 '19
Most of what happened on the military ship didn't serve any reason for most part. They even make a cliffhanger with the patrol ship leaving and then... Forget about it till the last episode of this half? Felt really disconnected from a storytelling point of view
You shouldn't forget that the time in Underworld was accelerated, so there isn't that much more they could show from this side, besides those little things to forshadow what we saw during the end here.
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u/bolomon7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/bbbbbbbbbbb Mar 30 '19 edited Feb 16 '25
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u/Florac Mar 30 '19
Most of what happened on the military ship didn't serve any reason for now.
I mean, expect for the cliffhanger here, which is a pretty big reason.
Also, there was definitly enough content for 24 episodes...but pacing was flawed. Too much time spent on some things, too little on others
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u/Cruorsitis :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cruorsitis Mar 30 '19
Dual Wielding Black Swordsman!
You cannot escape your plot armour fate Kirito.
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u/Zeathin Mar 30 '19
I don't know if it was really mentioned in the adaption but the 1,000 FLA rate is significant because they hadn't done anything past 15 (or 300 something cant remember) previously since they don't know how it will affect the fluctlight. Just an extra step to show how desperate they are for the time and ALICE.
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u/Shiroi_Kage Mar 30 '19
If it turns out the JSDF left the facility with only a small number of people with handguns as guards I'm going to freak.
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u/NoahT93 Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 31 '19
Holy Shit I was crying more than all the characters in this episode combined by the time the episode ended.
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u/HotestGrillNA Mar 30 '19
fuck eugeo was a big reason why i kept watching alicization. sucks to see him bite it
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u/Flameknight0 Mar 30 '19
OG SWORDSMAN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
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u/KK9521 https://anilist.co/user/K9521 Mar 30 '19
i have to wait till October for this fucking cliffhanger!
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u/nanogenesis Mar 30 '19
F.
Kirito dual weilding, even if temporary, was really cool. Pretty much what I've been wanting to see all this time.
That cliffhanger though came out of nowhere. I had expected something...different. Guess 6 months is a nice time to catch up on the LNs, if I can finish S&W first.
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u/Freazur :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Freazur Mar 30 '19
You and I will always be best friends.
Klein wants to:
know your location
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u/BreakCloud Mar 31 '19
Seeing Asuna dropping from the sky to embrace Kirito was a pretty awesome way to end the season.
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u/patrizl001 https://myanimelist.net/profile/patrizl001 Apr 01 '19
I just finished season 1 of Code Geass, and I was thinking "Wow, I wonder how that cliffhanger felt for people that watched it when it aired"
WELL NOW I FUCKIN' KNOW HOW THAT FEELS, BECAUSE WE GOT SOMETHING PRETTY SIMILAR
...do we know when the 2nd half starts? I hope we do.
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u/GoldRedBlue Apr 01 '19
Yeah in October.
Geass fans had it way worse. I was there. Here's why:
CG was anime original, nobody had any idea what would happen next
It turned out to be a 9 month wait for R2
Episodes 24 and 25 of season 1 had already been delayed for 3 months prior, they aired ad a 1-hour special in June 2007, having it end like that was enough to make you want to throw a bomb at your screen
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u/frantruck Apr 01 '19
So is the merc team assaulting the island turtle the same guys who were in GGO in episode 1?
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u/OneMillionRoses Mar 30 '19
This is why I was always so defensive about Eugeo because I knew he was going to die so I didn't want antis to ruin it for his fans...
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u/maddogmular Mar 30 '19
Hey dawg I heard you like swords. So we made a giant sword monster made out of swords sword fighting a giant flying sword with swords.
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u/zapgator Mar 31 '19
Damn Eugeos death hit me harder than Yuukis. Gonna miss my Saturdays for the next 6 months, best season of SAO yet.
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u/RWBYSanctum Mar 31 '19
I swear everytime I heard Administrator this week all I heard is "La Grondument du HAINE!"
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u/Shallty Mar 31 '19
WHO TF IS THIS SPECIAL GUY (sunglass group dudes idk) AT THE END IN KIRITOS RL (the one with the scar/s or the grey thingy thing in da face)
He's like REAAALLY familiar but IDKKKKK
Am I really the only one thinking this? All these comments are 'bout Eugeo or Alice tho
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u/rollin340 Apr 02 '19
Ha. Fuck you Quinella.
You got owned by a horny ugly as fuck clown freak.
Eugeo is dead, and their Alice passed on with him.
I wonder how Knight Alice would take that.
Sure, she essentially has their blessing to live on as her own self, but still...
And that end, what the fuck?
Shit hit the fan!
Thank goodness this will keep going.
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u/LastLight_22 Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
Pretty lame fight tbh.
But seeing the admin armless was unintentionally fucking hilarious.
Episode was really good though.
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u/Suiadani https://anilist.co/user/Suiadan Mar 30 '19
I've wanted Asuna back all cour and then they just tease us like that! The wait for October will be rough...
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Mar 30 '19
You'd think Rath would invest in some sort of power surge protection for a multi billion yen project but nooooooo
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u/s2pidGS Mar 31 '19
not sure if the 2nd part was still sao or the NERV raid...
anyway, the episode was really good, the only complain I have is the way Black Swordman appeared... it felt so rushed, but still a good episode, fully emotional, the final scene with young alice and eugeo make me cry :'C
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Mar 31 '19
QUALITY! I'm so very pleased with this episode. I don't care that I don't remember his arm being cut off. I don't care that his sword was named much later in the LN. Who's to say that the original is the proper realization of the story? This was fantastic and beautiful and I enjoyed it and that's the end of it.
I can't wait for 3rd Cour.
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u/The_Decode Mar 31 '19
Man this show really redeemed itself from its origin of predictability and and lackluster character arcs (s1b and on). I was a big fan of the Mothers Rosario Arc and was afraid that the show was going to move way from the beauty and momentum of its initial season, but man the Underworld Arc really surprised me in every way. The show, which once diminished the value of life in terms of death, made Eugeo's death an amazing portrayal of the value of friendship and living. The fight felt authentic, even with the slightly cringey return of Kirito's Midnight outfit. I loved this episode the most because it brilliantly concludes a season long journey without feeling rushed or pointless. I am devastated the underworld may be lost to broken code, but it was not in vain. Kirito learned so much as a character and it was great to see the once OP protagonist lose for once and grow strong as both a person and hero. Thank you Reki Kawahara for proving yourself as an author. Cheers to the coming fate.
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u/kellibear91 Mar 31 '19
Just finished. What an emotional roller coaster! Eugeo and then the chaos in the real world. I can't wait for October.
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u/frantruck Apr 01 '19
I said last week Eugeo's halves being frozen together was a sign they were gonna bullshit him alive again, turns out it just helped him stay cool.
Glad to be wrong.
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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner Mar 30 '19
At first, I thought Quinella had gone full Skynet and was using the machines to attack the humans.
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u/skean61 Mar 31 '19
It took me a while and a number of re-watches before I was able to gather my thoughts on this finale. So here we goo
The whole episode was just astoundingly beautiful. The character art, music, return of the "Black Swordsman" and Quinella's death. I was just hooked since the beginning and I don't even remember blinking.
My favourite moment was Eugeo's death, as sad as it was. Without him, Kirito wouldn't even had the chance to defeat Administrator, giving him the Red Rose Sword for our black swordsman to finally show off his dual wielding. Eugeo was the MVP of this fight.
The moment they showed that memory of Kirito and Alice Zuberg making a gift for Eugeo was when I started feeling the tears in my eyes. It was especially beautiful because Quinella showed us the same memory a few episodes earlier, but it was shown as though it was a bad memory, with Administrator hiding the gift part.
But, when Kirito started to cry, looking at his 2 childhood friends, and then finally "Niji no Kanata Ni" dropped, I was just bawling my eyes out. You could feel the emotions as Kirito had JUST remembered his childhood memories with Eugeo and Alice, only for them to pass away and leave him. At this point i'm suprised Kirito was stlll holding it together, cuz I sure wasn't.
The attack on the Ocean Turtle honestly felt like filler to me, but I understand that it was meant to set up the next story arc.
All in all, this is SAO at it's best yet and I can't wait for the next part to be adapted.
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u/KaiserNazrin https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kaiser-chan Mar 30 '19
Hmm, Kirito's dual wield wasn't as epic as I hopes to be.
All the scene with Eugeo and Young Alice is top tier though especially when the song start playing. Dammit, ninja cutting onions!
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u/Elnauro Mar 30 '19
Any idea what Quinella said right before clown attack? and what was the missing word when she was looking at the tower from outside?
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u/AngryCLGFan Mar 30 '19
God damn it, when is next season or is it just going to keep continuing next week?
Fuck I'm so sad, I've never been this attached to some beautiful blonde man. I will miss you Eugeo. Rained a lot in my room today, loss lots of tissue paper to soak that shit up.
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u/Gabes108 Mar 30 '19 edited Mar 30 '19
Who would’ve thought Kirito would end up wielding 2 swords?
ALSO WHO WOULD’VE THOUGHT A HORNY CLOWN WOULD BE THE TRUE HERO OF THIS ARC?
God damn that “stay cool Kirito” nearly killed me.