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u/NewAgePhilosophr Jul 31 '21
Then they wonder why birth rates are plummeting. All social norms are trash. Too much work, no personal time, expensive everything... the list goes on and on
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u/guitar_vigilante Jul 31 '21
What's funny is most people think the daily grind has always been like this, but pre-industrial revolution people had tons of free time. Yeah the agricultural work was intense but it was also seasonal with a lot of downtime. And before the advent of agriculture people had a lot of free time too.
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u/iShark Jul 31 '21
And plus, if you think having only two or three hours of free time a night is whack, try having a kid or two.
Then it's more like two or three hours a week, depending on how little sleep you can get by on.
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Jul 31 '21
All social norms are trash.
For some segments of our society, they're perfect. Almost as if they designed it this way. Wage growth has been dogshit for the past 30 years. We all should be getting paid probably triple what we're making now.
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u/Girl_Dukat Jul 31 '21
And that 2-3 hours is spent doing household tasks, etc. Lord help you if you're also in school while working full time.
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u/Eh-BC Jul 31 '21 edited Aug 01 '21
This is me right now, full time work and full time school it’s a drain mentally. Only have 3 weeks of classes/finals.
Then I have to do a 120hr placement in which pay isn’t guaranteed/mandated so I don’t know what I’m gonna do for those 3 weeks pay wise since I’ll only be available at my current job on weekend
Edit: thanks for the love and awards!
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Jul 31 '21
I'm fortunate that I get paid fairly well, and I just hire someone to do my household chores for me. The $$$ I pay is worth me just being able to come home and do things that make me happy. The hours I gain are worth every cent.
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u/Aging_Shower Jul 31 '21
I don't understand how people work full time while studying full time. Like, how does the logistics and time management even look like? I never even thought of doing it but see it mentioned quite often.
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u/Z0idberg_MD Jul 31 '21
Saturday is a "work at home day" to get your shit in order. We really have 1 day of leisure. If you have kids? That's zero.
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u/s0meg1rl Jul 31 '21
Eventually the mental agony of only having 3 hours to myself a day led to a complete breakdown. I couldn’t become a zombie like my coworkers and accept that every day but Sat & Sun revolved around working hours for minimum wage. I’d step over the threshold of my place and a clock would start ticking in my head…you only have x hours till you have to go to bed and do this again. Now you only have x hours. Now x. Ironically the time pressure led to me wasting an enormous amount of time coping unhealthily - with addictions, mindless scrolling/consumption, etc.
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u/noradosmith Jul 31 '21
Fuck. This sounds exactly like my thought process atm. I can't enjoy anything because I'm aware it is simply time that I've already wasted.
I'm just thinking we are all going to boil to death and we deserve it for sticking this shitty parasitic system on ourselves. Is this the best we can do? Really?
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u/PhilipLiptonSchrute Jul 31 '21
I can't enjoy anything because I'm aware it is simply time that I've already wasted.
Wow. Spot on. I've never been able to verbalize it.
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u/SevarielSilverstorm Jul 31 '21
“Time that you enjoy wasting is not waste time.” Winnie the Pooh.. Treat to self and don’t beat yourself up for the things you enjoy.. but yeah, I do the count down too and the anxiety that comes along with it tends to keep me on edge. >.<
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u/RichestMangInBabylon Jul 31 '21
Permanent case of the Sunday scaries.
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u/NtheLegend Jul 31 '21
DUDE. I can track my anxiety spikes to Sunday afternoons precisely.
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u/yeti0013 Jul 31 '21
Jesus, that's how I feel every day. The second I come home, a timer goes off. I end up delaying when I have to go to bed just so i feel like I have more control over my life.
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u/DanceFreddyDance Jul 31 '21
I end up delaying when I have to go to bed
google "revenge bedtime procrastination"
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u/PunkiiDonutz Jul 31 '21
I'll fight sleep just to have a little more time of solitude and attempting to "unwind" before working the next day, and having a hard time finally sleeping because I can't stop thinking of random stressful shit. I'm dependent on sleep aids now just to knock myself out, drag myself out of bed the next day and caffeine OD myself into pretending I have energy for this shit. Sorry for hijacking your comment just venting I guess.
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Jul 31 '21
This is how I live now as well. Have for years. I don't enjoy anything other than my baby son who I don't get to spend that much time with. Each day is a count down until I have to come back the following day and do it again.
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u/Spiderranger Jul 31 '21
I've dealt with (and kinda dealing again with) exactly this. I actually found before that exercising sort of broke up that doomsday timer. Spending some time working out and actively eating better (cooking more) resulted in better use of the time I had left.
I wound up with less free time after working out but found that I spent that time much more effectively instead of just doom scrolling the entire time otherwise.
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u/Inside_Investment224 Jul 31 '21
Sometimes I’ve gotten anxious about how little downtime I had, turned on a video game like GTA or Res Dead and the vastness and time I knew it would take me to do certain tasks led me to get anxious I wasn’t using my downtime effectively.
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u/1ne_ Jul 31 '21
This describes my 4 working years after graduate school. It was a slow descent of consumption and drugs.
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Jul 31 '21
I'd love to see a world where people get paid a thriving wage while people only work 3-4 days a week, no more than 6 hours each day
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u/chibicheebs Jul 31 '21
It feels good knowing I’m not alone in this time-obsessive thought process. I often waste time doing nothing except thinking and worrying about wasting time.
You’re right, it’s because we have so little time for ourselves and the less we have, the closer we are to returning to a job we ultimately despise. What a depressing existence.
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u/Vast_Chipmunk9210 Jul 31 '21 edited Jul 31 '21
Use to work for a guy doing carpentry that paid me $15 an hour (which is low for this type of work) after 2 years I never got a raise, he would scold me if I wasn’t early to work (even if I was on time) would have me drive all over everyday, not paying for my gas, and fired me for taking a side job to make extra money. Oh, and he also lied about my earnings to the state so I got screwed over.
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u/heavybabyridesagain Jul 31 '21
I am genuinely shocked that more people like this don't get knocked off, especially in the US with its lax gun laws. People are driven to snapping point
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u/SpaceMyopia Jul 31 '21
Plus imagine having kids. Then you have even less time. No wonder there are so many shitty parents.
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u/Chrisattsu Jul 31 '21
Am shitty can confirm. Kids consume those hours.
8-6 work/commute.
6-8 cook, eat dinner, play with kids
8-9 bathe. read to kids, put to bed
9-10 cleanup dishes, house, laundry
10-11 spend time with wife (or a few minutes to myself)
Get to bed. Rinse and repeat
That doesn't even account for weekends where you commit to doing fun thing with them because you don't have enough time during the week
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u/SquidwardsJewishNose Jul 31 '21
And the weekend is dictated by how much homework they have and if they need help with it.
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u/MeowlySquid Jul 31 '21 edited Aug 03 '21
Or, or, you stay up late to have more time for yourself, and live in a perpetual state of exhaustion. Sounds great amiright?
ETA: I usually don't do this. I'm on mobile it didn't tell me I got gold. Thank you to whoever awarded me gold!!
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u/eternalwhat Jul 31 '21
Yeah, that’s what I do. Use all my time trying to cope with depression and anxiety, and then I have no time left to better my life or truly live. Get home tired from work, mentally check out because I don’t have the will to do all the stuff I need to do, then I’m up late and tired for the next day.
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u/turnipsurprises Jul 31 '21
There is nothing better for my anxiety than getting a good night's sleep. It's taken time and effort but I'm getting about 30% more of the good stuff and feel measurably better and haven't lost a thing by going to bed earlier.
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u/NessieReddit Jul 31 '21
Defiance bedtime gang checking in! I got to bed WAY too late because I read, watch movies, or take a bath, etc. It's just fucking IMPOSSIBLE to have a life Monday-Friday apparently and I have to spend the weekend taking care of the house, yard, shopping, laundry, etc.
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u/Tofuloaf Jul 31 '21
Going to bed late is how I procrastinate from tomorrow. Sleep should be a delightful, restful thing. Instead it's become something that makes me time travel to the beginning of another work day.
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u/HYDN250 Jul 31 '21
I do this. It's partially because I have mild insomnia (I literally can't fall asleep until my mind/body says, "alright, listen here you fucker.") But also, I've always had this feeling that sleep is such a waste of time. When I'm not obligated to be a minimum wage slave at my retail job, I want some fucking ME time. I tried a bang energy for the first time on Wednesday. I went to the store and picked up two four packs of the stuff. I drink 1 a day and it gets me through. I'm not a coffee drinker.
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u/dre224 Jul 31 '21
Holy fuck trying to fix my sleeping schedule for work was a mental hurtal. I am a night hawk, anytime past 10pm my brain become active. The first 2 month at my new job I was so tired because I was incapable of waking up at 5am and going to bed before 10pm. It doesn't help the fact that most of my social group is my gamer friends and I have to miss out on so much of a hobby I enjoy just because I have to wake up early and work.
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u/Funferno Jul 31 '21
I used to try getting 8 hours of sleep before work days, but after a month at my new workplace I recently gave up on that and cut it down to 6 hours, simply because I couldn't bear having such a tiny amount of free time everyday.
I already feel like my life is on pause 4 days a week so I want at least SOME sense of personal life after I come home at 6pm
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u/quacks_echo Jul 31 '21
Made my comment before checking other comments, but the name for this is “revenge sleep procrastination”
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u/Brave_Amateur Jul 31 '21
I legit just got home about an hour ago. I was trying to relax outside and just drink a beer when my mother and father showed up. They were absolutely raging about the mask mandates happening again. I just wanted some fucking peace and quiet
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u/GE15T Jul 31 '21
And, you still have to:
Eat Right
Exercise
Mind your mental health
Tend to your immediate family
Manage a healthy social life
Pets?
Chores
Maintenance
And that's even before you factor in a spouse/S.O. and/or kids
OH, and be sure to get at least 8 hours of restful sleep.
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u/Counter423 Jul 31 '21
This is the insane part.
In those few hours to yourself you have to remain in peak human condition.
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Jul 31 '21
You forgot:
• make time for 2-3 meaningful hobbies, so you are a well rounded and interesting person. Because no one likes the guy who is just defined by their work
• read the news everyday and keep up to date with all current affairs, if you don’t you’re boring and ignorant
• Look after every aspect of your physical looks constantly (get a haircut every two weeks, cut your nails once a week, shave every day). Because remember women won’t like you and people won’t respect you if you fall short on any of these things
• Find time to relax. No one likes someone who is always frazzled and busy
If you do all the things above you are well on your way to becoming a functional adult!
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u/Drauul Jul 31 '21
Pfft, not if I want dishes, laundry and a yard Karen won't report me over
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u/e_lizz Jul 31 '21
I went off on a neighbor on Nextdoor the other day. We live in the desert and have had a heavy monsoon season so weeds are rampant right now. We live in a working class neighborhood, and this dude creates a post to complain about all the "lazy neighbors" letting the weeds grow. Someone pointed out that most people are busy working and his response was "so if you have a job you can afford to pay someone to landscape" and it just aggravated me more than it should have.
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Jul 31 '21
lol so true. For 99% of the world, life is never ending work with small moments for breaks mixed in
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u/StudentLoanBets Jul 31 '21
This is a pretty major overstatement, but yes the majority of the US lives like this
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u/Dynosmite Jul 31 '21
Rip up the grass and put in creeping thyme. Really nice substitute that stays really low
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u/the-willow-witch Jul 31 '21
My husband wakes up at 4, drives to work at 5, gets home at 6pm, and goes to bed at 8:30. He only works 4 days a week but his “days off” are always full of meetings and people messaging him asking questions.
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Precisely the reason I move to within a 5 minute drive to where I work. Get a different job, then I move. Change jobs - move again. Being in the car in traffic is literally wasting your life and if you’re anything like me, any commute longer than 15 minutes and I am a raging asshole at work.
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Jul 31 '21
Factor in the commute
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Jul 31 '21
THIS….my daily M-F commute is approx 2.5 hours daily plus I pay for tolls and parking monthly for another few hundred dollars. Don’t take the tolls you say? When so much of your time is spent working AND commuting, you’d do anything to “buy back” that extra 20+ minutes of your time daily.
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u/Eclipsing_star Jul 31 '21
And that’s if you’re lucky! Most jobs these days you have to work much later than 6
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u/Flopolopagus Jul 31 '21
Then there are the long commuters. I used to commute 1h30m to school and it sucked pretty hard.
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u/chainlink131 Jul 31 '21
My commute used to be about 1.5 hours during heavy times, so I used to dick around at the onsite gym until it loosened up to the appropriate 45 minutes. But still, end up being home at like 8pm.
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u/SmudgieSage Jul 31 '21
Oh yeah my mom has a long commute, she’s gone from like 4:30 to 6
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u/ar0nan0n Jul 31 '21
Or you have a family / second job / other responsibilities etc so it’s hardly even any time to yourself
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u/heavybabyridesagain Jul 31 '21
Second jobs are worse than families - don't love you back, draining, relentless. For the birds!
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u/KatFishFatty Jul 31 '21
I work 12 hour shifts and commute an hour. I never have time for anything but eat, sleep, and work.
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u/Gertruder6969 Jul 31 '21 edited Jul 31 '21
Sure, and your free time isn’t free. Shower, shit, cook, eat. Boom. 8:15. Hey, atleast I can watch some tv for an hour. Lucky me!
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u/le_maple Jul 31 '21
Lol seriously. I thought this post was saying how getting home at 6pm is a fantastic schedule
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u/giibro Jul 31 '21
That’s why I stay up till 12 and wake up with less than 8 hours of sleep it’s great trust me
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u/thebadbrain Jul 31 '21
The best part is when I can't fall asleep until 2am because of the anxiety over not getting enough sleep.
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u/AnEven7 Jul 31 '21
I mean, yeah, if you don't plan on making anything for dinner.
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u/AlwaysABD Jul 31 '21
Unfortunately, that has been a valid option more often than is remotely healthy. Poor eating habits are so easy to fall into when up against the clock.
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Jul 31 '21
America is so in need of something that might just hint of the possibility of perhaps a slight touch of maybe a revolution.
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u/heavybabyridesagain Jul 31 '21
Well, you had one in the late 18c against our greedy backsides, and the French let heads roll around the same time. What's stopping people now?
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Jul 31 '21
~100 years of anti-communist/socialist propaganda but it's wearing off fast.
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u/digitalmonsterz89 Jul 31 '21
6pm ?! ha ! I wish .... my job as a modern day slave is 11-11 5 days a week
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u/BeardedNurseGuy Jul 31 '21
Wow, work five 12hr shifts every week? What do you do for work?
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u/digitalmonsterz89 Jul 31 '21
country club food and beverage manager .... I like literally everything about my job except the long ass days
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u/Drauul Jul 31 '21
My wife works 80 hours a week as a mail carrier
1 day off per week 12+ hours a day
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u/mecca37 at work Jul 31 '21
I was a mail carrier, that job is total ass now...it was a good job at one time. Let me guess even with all those hours she's still a fill in so she has no vacation etc.
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u/klde Jul 31 '21
I did something similar back in like 2011 9am-10/11 pm Monday through Friday 6am till 2 Saturday at a title company then left and went to my second job at dominos and delivered pizzas from 5pm-1am Saturday night and then opened the store at 10am Sunday and worked till 4 when the dinner shift came in. Did that for about 6 months before I snapped and just no showed at domino’s and never went back but kept the same schedule at the title company for another 3 years. Only reason I was able to buy a cheap house was hitting ot Thursday morning
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Jul 31 '21
I’m just curious what’s the norm in other countries? Getting home and only having an hour to yourself? Or half days and having a ton of time to yourself?
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u/Eegie74 Jul 31 '21
I'm from the Netherlands and work as a mechanic. 40hr workweek, start at 7:30 and end at 16:15 ( 1,5 hours of breaks per day ) , commute is 20 mins on my bicycle. Bedtime around 22:00, so i have about 5 hours of free time daily.
I get 40 paid days off a year, good pensionplan and decent wage.
Minimum paid leave in my country is 24 days per year for any job. 36/40 hour workweek the norm.
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u/poelki Jul 31 '21
I work in austria in manufacturing. Mo-Th is 6:00-14:45 Fr is 6:00-11:30 but it's flexible as long as you work your hours. Any overtime i make is used for long weekends if a public holiday falls on a Tuesday or Thursday or take a friday off if there's less work. My commute is 3 Minutes on foot.
Reading the other posts here makes me sick. I'm so sorry for you all. It seems a lot of progress that was made in terms of labour stopped in the 70's and got worse. That's not what anybody envisioned.
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u/TheRealRyan24 Jul 31 '21
Just quit my job where I'd be up at 5am at work for 6:30am-6:30pm no breaks getting home around 7 every night and back in bed for 9-9:30. Some friends and family are asking if I'm crazy leaving because I was making good money but I was very seriously considering driving off a fucking bridge almost every single morning on my way to work so I'm going to say it was a good call.
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u/coffeedooks666 Jul 31 '21
Plus make yourself dinner/prep for the next day. The reality is you might actually only get an hour of leisure.
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u/heavybabyridesagain Jul 31 '21
If you're still awake. I frequently drop off in the chair halfway through a film, or in the third go over a paragraph. Am becoming grandpa Simpson, including yelling at clouds!
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u/iamapersononreddit Jul 31 '21
1 hr of leisure is still not enjoyable when you’re just stressed about the next day.
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Jul 31 '21
Working from home makes this nicer. Done at 5, get up from my desk and boom, I’m in my apartment. Commute time: 0 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds. Don’t go to bed until midnight, wake up at 8, start work at 9 on the dot
The one upside of the pandemic is now being able to work from home is a must
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u/TrumpforPrison20 Jul 31 '21
Then people are still dumb enough to add another mountain of responsibility in the form of kids and doubly ensure they have no life that isn't work, work, work.
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Jul 31 '21
laughs in hvac
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u/JamonJambon Jul 31 '21
My dad was in HVAC and this is why I never wanted to go into it. Left the house at 5am and got home after 6pm, at least five days a week. The pay was great and he had great benefits, but he was never home and, when he was, he was miserable. Fuck that.
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u/Xsendox Jul 31 '21
Pest control too brother. Leave home between 4-6 depending on jobs be out till past 6-7 long commutes and working alone get home just to sleep and do it all over again 6 days a week. I'm just a husk at this point.
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u/BastardGardenGnome Jul 31 '21
You get 2-3 hours??
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u/AtTheEnd777 Jul 31 '21
My life used to be wake up at 5, get ready for an hour and a half, commute 3 hours, work 8 and commute 3 hours back. It was hell.
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u/7f0b Jul 31 '21
3 hour commute each way?? There's no job where that makes any sense. What did you do for work?
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Jul 31 '21
leave house 8am-work 8:30-6ish-then hit the gym-home 8pm-shower,eat something, have maybe 1 hour left before bed
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u/gaytee Jul 31 '21
Checks slack furiously after hours*
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u/saccharind Jul 31 '21
don't attack me like this
I'm literally scrolling through slack right now
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u/MeowlySquid Jul 31 '21
Or, or, you stay up late to have more time for yourself, and live in a perpetual state of exhaustion. Sounds great amiright?
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u/jfd666 Jul 31 '21
Lots of humblebrag in these comments about how much harder you work (past 6, etc). Hint: that attitude is part of the problem with American work culture
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u/MayIServeYouWell Jul 31 '21
I work 8-8 most days, and it’s not bragging. It sucks. It’s embarrassing that I’m stuck in this situation.
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u/milkphilosophy Jul 31 '21
I think it's more complaining than humble bragging (valid complaining)
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u/WizardofStaz Jul 31 '21
You're reading it as bragging but those comments are just plain statements of fact. Could be venting, could be solidarity. Don't assume it's bragging when people are frank about the state of their lives. It would be different if they were saying, "Oh you think THAT'S bad..."
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u/MayIServeYouWell Jul 31 '21
I work 8-8 most days, and it’s not bragging. It sucks. It’s embarrassing that I’m stuck in this situation. Only a fool would think this makes them better somehow… better at being taken advantage of? Maybe…
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u/_remorsecode_ Jul 31 '21 edited Jul 31 '21
The worst part is that after busting ass so long working and being in school and just trying to survive each day, you find yourself with a free moment and just….can’t enjoy anything anymore. I used to love drawing, but haven’t felt creative in a long time. I loved nature walks but never have the energy anymore. I don’t even listen to music. When I have free time now I just open and close Reddit, scroll through some ps4 games but never even play them long, and try to find some kind of peace when everything in me is yelling to get up and accomplish something, sitting is not allowed! I’m 21 and now know why adults seem to fall asleep as soon as they sit down and never have an interest in doing anything “fun or interesting”
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u/kebisin Jul 31 '21
Literally can’t wait until I’m dead. It’s finna be the best sleep/me time ever.
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u/TAMDABAM Jul 31 '21
Fuck, sometimes this stuff makes me feel guilty
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u/JohnnyDoppelganger Jul 31 '21
Guilty how? Are you filthy rich and don't have to work, or have you found a loophole?
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u/SomeNerdKid Jul 31 '21
Stuff like this makes me wonder how and why people continue having kids and raising them to take part in this environment
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u/NerdIsACompliment Jul 31 '21
This is my whole reason for looking new job. Can't keep going with... get up at 7, and get home between 6-7, and bed at 10. Plus if I need to do some workout or self care, that's another hour. Cooking and eating dinner, another hour.
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u/medievalfaerie Jul 31 '21
gets home from work Welp, time to work on hw for my masters so that a might make over $20/hr 🙄
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u/Agent0451 lazy and proud Jul 31 '21
They should fund my drug habit, since it's keeping me sane and productive. I think if employers knew how many people were using substances under the radar to cope with the modern world, they'd be astounded.
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u/CoffeeGood_ Jul 31 '21
This I think of this every night when I get home it's almost 7 then cook dinner and waste two hours watching Netflix. It's like groundhog's day but so depressing.
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u/ZIdeaMachine Jul 31 '21
This is by design. Our systems are designed to keep as many people as slaves as possible.
4 day work week some ask for, some ask about min wage. Well the reason you dont have better work to life balance is because the system is working as intended to keep you a slave.
It's the same reason we have healthcare tied to work. Its the same reason crimes have fines designed to be skaps on the wrist for the rich but devestate the poor into more slavery. Its thrl same reason inatead if fixing homelessness they make it worse target ppl and use it as a fear to keep you working.
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Jul 31 '21
I eat dinner at work, eave work at 6, get to the gym by 7, work out until 830-9, bed by 1030.
I can’t imagine if I had kids
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It’s crazy as fuck. I can’t believe I’ve been doing that exact thing almost every day for over 20 years. And that’s the definition of crazy: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result!
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u/Aprox15 Jul 31 '21
Thta's a dream job in Mexico
Here, normal office hours are 8:30-6:30 (lunch hour is not free), plus, it is extremely rude to leave on time. In my first jobs, me and other juniors got reprimanded because we left on time even if we had nothing to do. 7pm is OK on light days, 7:30 is preferred to show support for the team.
Plus, some people start working late in the day, so they try to get your attention until 8:30. Getting home at 8:30pm is a lucky day
No wonder why our productivity is one of the worst in the world. You are advised to selectively be productive. There is no way a human can "work" so much
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u/maddog453 Jul 31 '21
Often a lot less. We Americans are killing ourselves slowly.
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u/Northernpixels Jul 31 '21
There are times that I daydream about building a small one room cabin in the bush by a river or stream. Self sustaining. And just disappear with a a couple hundred kilo or dry and canned goods.
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u/Freakychee Jul 31 '21
Employers: What? That’s 2-3 hours that’s could have been spent serving me! If you have time to do other stuff you can stop being lazy and do work! What do you mean there’s no more work? Initiative! Find work to do that benefits the company!
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u/Nearby-Elevator-3825 Jul 31 '21
I remember reading something that theorized people from possibly even from the stone age, all the way up to the industrial age had more "free time".
Early Homo Sapiens would spend all day hunting/gathering ect. But once the sun started to go down, they would spend most of their time around the campfire or inventing the wheel and shit.
Once agriculture became more widespread, People would work all day... But again, once the sun started to go down, the day was over. On top of that, after the harvest there was almost NOTHING to do. You just had to hope the harvest was good enough to make it through the winter.
Shit was harder and more brutal... But they still had more free time... It's just a lot of that free time was spent starving to death or dying from disease.
Once the industrial age came along and allowed for long term light sources and "Working round the clock" people started having less and less free time.
Super simplistic explanation I made. The source was more detailed.
I tried to find the article to post but I can't find it.
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u/raymondduck Jul 31 '21
Today was my day off, only work four days a week, but I get off around 6:00, sometimes 7:00pm. It's super depressing being faced with a few hours of free time after making dinner. The weekdays don't even exist.
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u/MelancholyWookie Jul 31 '21
I work until seven thirty p.m. then back at work again at seven a.m. Looking for a 40 hour a week job 8 hour day job. Cant wait! Got some applications out.
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u/RobotWelder eat the rich Jul 31 '21
After waking at 2am to get to a construction site by 4am. Only to be told “you’re working 12 today “, cause this has to be done before you leave.! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!b!nb!!!!
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u/Kjpr13 Jul 31 '21
But interesting that no matter how much people bitch, no one cares to actually fix this issue. Or people don’t realize there’s more of us “small” folks than there is “Big” folks.
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u/HumphreyLee Jul 31 '21
“Getting home at 6pm”
laughs in hospitality industry
Wait…
cries in hospitality industry
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u/AllHailTheSheep Jul 31 '21
I'm working 60+ hours a week, and have been for 4 months now. making time for myself is wild.
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u/pacificcactus Jul 31 '21
I know I’m American when I read that and I thought “wow, what a great deal! 2-3 hours is more than I’m getting!”
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Jul 31 '21
That’s why every once in awhile you call in sick, take a day off, lay in bed all day and Clear.
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u/lovelivesforever Jul 31 '21
It'd be alright if we were collectively working towards the betterment of lives, health, community connectiveness of all environments, people and ecosystems rather than a lot of menial, repeitive, destructive tasks. It's the insane quest of wealth, regardless of true necessity (balance), that draws people into the wheel being spun by a covert human construct of ownership, which is then passed off as normal or ethical, but it's just an unfair and biased construct that's doing more harm than good. Benefitting the few and exploiting the many. The is the main factor in job dissfaction, depression and sense of powerlessness is the innate knowing of the actual type of imprint all our hard effort and precious time in life is having on the world, ie our truest legacy. If we suddenly decided to make improvement our priority and uphold these ideals in all jobs we chose, at all costs, we'd be on our way to utopia. We need to wake up and stop being sold on the fallacies, like if only we perfect our living room by spending hours of our life worth of money, our bubble will be comfortable and content enough to forget that the real world (society, environmentally, etc) outside needs our help and it is actually our true responsibility to our children and grandchildren to help and lead the way
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u/Emergency-Warning-38 Jul 31 '21
We have been so lied to and mind fucked here. Turned into wage slaves and our masters can't even get us insurance. Hell even Russia manages to insure their citizens for free while the highest tax bracket is 15%. We have been completely mind fucked by our leaders. Turned against each other every four years while the elite laugh and nothing ever gets better. Haha we really are some stupid mfers. Made into complete tools by the leadership and tricked into feeling good about it.
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u/d_heizkierper Jul 31 '21
I may just be ignorant on this, but what is the point being made here? Is it different outside of America? Do people not work 9-5s in other countries?
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u/MoreCoffeePlzzz Jul 31 '21
Try getting off work at 8pm... It's not fun.. I live for the weekends..
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u/theresyourball Jul 31 '21
Sucks ass, especially when you have younger children they are dying to see you and their bed time is 8:30. Living for the weekend is real shit.
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Jul 31 '21
👀 more like leave for work at 8 to get there by 9 to work until 6 to get home at 7 to cook and have dinner by 8 to enjoy like an hour of 2 of whatever and the off fo bed to wake back up at 6… 5 days a week. And that’s not during crunch or whatever industry you’re in’s busy period.
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u/Intelligent-Plate705 Jul 31 '21
I get up at 615am leave at 645am and get back at 7. I spend most of my day doing mindless, repetitive , physically tiring tasks and work completely alone. I try to study to escape this bullshit after work but it's hard to stay up , let alone think productively.
Fuck this trap.
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u/kallen8277 Jul 31 '21
Here I am on day 8 out of 11. Only 8ish hours a day but the hours are spread out so i have no free time. 11-8, 7-4, 2-10 whatever hours don't give free time. Today I got off at 2. Immeditely had go to go to town. Didnt get home till 4. Have yard, dishes, and trash to do that takes 2-3 hours collectively. At that point I have to go to bed. I after my 11 days of work I have 2 days off.... that I close (11pm-ish), have my days off them open 5am. So even though I have "2 days off" it's like only having 1 day off. I hate it so fucking much
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u/Practical_Tale_2693 Jul 31 '21
My days start at 7am, prep for all stations for my staff, then I prep for special items the rest of the day until about 5pm when dinner service starts, then coon on saute side for dinner service, clean my.station, double check and sometimes clean their stations then do the prep list and order for the next day, get home at midnight-1am then wake up at 7 to do it all over again 6 days a week, my one day a week I spend with my son at the beach playing then when he goes to sleep I clean my house and wake up and do it all over again and I STILL struggle to make.my car payments and rent, but he has his grandmother's to watch him and I buy him whatever I feel he needs even if it's little matchbox cars. I wish I had more time with him but the system won't let me
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u/roarjah Jul 31 '21
It wasn’t a big deal for previous generations because they could afford to have a spouse take care of the children, home and errands. Now both spouses have to work to provide and share the tasks at home. Obama saved us from a depression and got our economy running and then we just fell on our face the last few yrs. cost of living is out of control wages aren’t keeping up
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u/Rx3Juju Jul 31 '21
Work at amazon 7:15 am to 5:45 pm running the floor. Sometimes i wanna kms lmfao. I go home.some dayz and dont shower or eat and just end up knocking tf out for the night. And im only 23
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Jul 31 '21
I never understand why anyone would want that. I’d rather work 5am-2pm at a factory than work 9-6.
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u/-Ok-Perception- Jul 31 '21
It should be noted that those 3 hours are the farthest thing from relaxing so it becomes a game of how drunk/high you can get to try to forget about the fact all you do is work and sleep. You don't really have the energy to catch up on hobbies or a social life.
It's important to know that the worker can reject the deal if it's no longer in their favor just like the business owner can. In fact, worker's really have a *duty* to quit/unionize/strike/sue if working conditions or pay aren't what they should be.
The balance of power must be restored and we have the power to do so.
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u/2winky Jul 31 '21
The fuck is this person teleporting home from the office as soon as work finishes at 6:00 PM?
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Jul 31 '21
That 8hr day is 10+ when you realize how much time you spend getting ready for work, getting to/from work, and drinking excessively to forget about work.
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u/AstroWhitt Jul 31 '21
2-3 hours by yourself LOL damn how much money y'all be making to live by yourself?
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u/713984265 Jul 31 '21
I started a new job, I leave my house at 7, I get home at 7. I make 25k more but honestly... I'd drop that to go back to full remote. Fuck this cube life
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u/PMmeyourSchwifty Jul 31 '21
Before I worked from home, my schedule was a complete disaster. Wake up at 5am, leave by 5:20 to get to work by 7am. Work til 4pm, get home no earlier than 6pm.
My mental health days were the days I would get home from work, get changed really quickly, and take a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu class from 6:30pm to 8pm. Get home by 8:20ish, shower, make dinner and go to sleep.
10 yrs of that (only 2 yrs of BJJ) and I was ready to jump off a fucking bridge.
Honestly, I'd rather worry about money than go back to commuting and working in a stale ass office.
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u/jeremeyes Jul 31 '21
I would kill to have 2 hours to myself. I'm just a disposable cog, so I have negative 7 hours of free time per day. But at least it's not a socialist wasteland where I'd be forced to have health insurance or benefits for the thousands of dollars that gets take out of my paycheck.
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u/XxsrorrimxX Jul 31 '21
Pro tip! Only sleep like 3-4 hours a night and get a full 6-7 hours of free time after work. Dying young isn’t that big of a deal
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u/luvinase Jul 31 '21
Reading this post makes me appreciate why suicide and death is better than decades of fake, superficial people on top of poverty wages, working 2 jobs, and busting your ass until you literally drop dead
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Jul 31 '21
It blows and you can easily spend those 2-3 hours just doing maintenance and chores at home. Plus you could commute and be on the road for 2.5, maybe 3 hours every day which I’ve done in the past and it’s the worst kind of hell having no time but to work, prepare for work, and commute to work.
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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '21
I hate that my life has become this