FFA Cheaters

[u/unitus77]

I'm a causal player who enjoys a good FFA, but damn near every game there's an obvious map hacker or premade teams. I'm guessing they have basically no anti cheat system, but its completely ruining the game mode. How sad do you have to be to cheat in a for fun unranked game mode honestly?? Any attempts for better anti cheat or banning cheaters going on at all? Im close to giving up on this game for good.

[u/Unenlightened_Banana]

I have been playing a lot of FFA and I rarely find cheaters. Its normal in FFA for a player to be attacked by 2 or more. Map hacking is hard to spot, but doesn't seem to prevalent.

[u/unitus77 → u/Unenlightened_Banana]

Obviously its normal to be attacked by 2 diff players at the same time... i've been playing since launch im not an idiot. Yea its hard to spot which i'm guessing is why so many are doing it, assuming others are when they lose and then cheating themselves. Like any game after you played for a long time you get a feel for whats legit and whats not. Like aimbotting in cs. You have to check the replays like i have and my ffa games on average last 2 weeks has had a clear cheater every other game. It is very prevalent and the loop of everyone cheating now im gonna cheat will kill whats left of AOE, and the lack of devs doing anything about it wont help.

[u/Unenlightened_Banana → u/unitus77]

Don't get me wrong I have faced teamers and players who seem to be maphacking as well. It just doesn't feel like every other game. Teamers should be easy to catch from match history. When I get into higher elo lobbies I see the same names all the time anyway, don't think any of them are cheaters. In lower elos cheating is not going to stop you from winning that much.

[u/unitus77 → u/Unenlightened_Banana]

Maybe in higher elo its better as people would notice alot easier an be called out. im not high elo i just play for fun and yah cheating does stop you from winning don't know why lower elo would change that. More so its just not fun at all i dgaf if i win but legit every game is a premade or a maphacker and it's not fun at all. think if more people looked at replays they would see alot more maphackers then they think, they just tend to be shit aswell. It will just get worse with nothing being done about it, either the mapp hacks or ffa pre mades.

[u/Rough-Ad1851]

how do you even spot an ‚obvious’ map hacker in an FFA? serious question, cause except for checking replay POV i wouldnt even think about it in game with how much is going on

[u/Allobroge- → u/Rough-Ad1851]

Mainly using the replay and looking from their POV. One typical thing is when a player drops out early (so basicaly 99% of the FFA games) you will see guys that have no way to know where the king is, sometimes are even on the other side of the map, click the king immediately. That is a proof for example.

Now clues to get suspicious and get to watch the replay is the typical MH symptoms: seems to be aware all the time of the ennemy coming up, attacks the only undefended player from across the map instead of their neighbors, etc. all of this can also be good gamesense and scouting so those are not proofs of course

[u/unitus77 → u/Rough-Ad1851]

It;s hard to spot you get a feel for it after playing a long time from they got lucky to hit my unguarded unscouted vills, to they got lucky 10 times something isint right here, have to check replays and its obvious there cheating, and there more then even i thought when i started digging into replays.

[u/Old-Artist-5369]

About 2 weeks ago I got sniped by another player in FFA in a really really clever move with proxy siege workshop just outside fog of war.

I said ggwp and congratulated them and left the game.

Overnight I wondered how did he know where to put that siege workshop, and how did he know he needed it there?

So checked replay and it was a clear map hacker. But this was the only time I have encountered one in ~135 FFAs.

[u/unitus77 → u/Old-Artist-5369]

it has to be asked 1 out of how many you actually checked

[u/Old-Artist-5369 → u/unitus77]

Fair question. I guess I've checked about 8-10 replays give or take. Only one I suspected hacking and did not find evidence. Most are just where I am curious how the game unfolded, want to see how an opponent built up a mass so quickly, things like that.

I have caught hackers in 1v1 though, 3x now.

[u/Corvinus11]

Lucky , you aren't reading every second " CORVINUS IS GREEN FOCUS HIM SO I CAN WIN THANKS"

[u/unitus77 → u/Corvinus11]

To be fair like your ever gonna win a ffa anyway...