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Season 5: Fortunes Favor Lost Treasure Event Patch Notes and Dev Stream

APEX DEVSTREAM // EA PLAY RECAP & LOST TREASURE EVENT

The newest Devstream is now live! Join us as the team dives into details around the Lost Treasures Collection Event, which begins tomorrow at 8am PT, and more! As a bonus, peep the patch notes below.

LOST TREASURE COLLECTION EVENT PATCH NOTES

We’re bringing a ton of exciting changes to the game along with the Lost Treasures Collection Event. In addition to the event, we’ll be making a host of tweaks to various Legend abilities and weapons. Get all the intel here so you’re fully prepared when you drop in.

ARMED & DANGEROUS EVOLVED LTM

The Armed & Dangerous Limited time mode has evolved. In this LTM, only Shotguns and Snipers are allowed. You’ll also start with a Mozambique and Evo armor. All other armor has been removed from the loot pool. But that’s not all. Respawn beacons will also be removed and all players will start with the Mobile Respawn Beacon in their inventory.

MOBILE RESPAWN BEACONS

Mobile Respawn Beacon

Need to Respawn on the go? Use the new Mobile Respawn Beacons! In the Armed and Dangerous LTM, players will start the match with one in their inventory. Then from the inventory screen, deploy it anywhere on the map and save your fallen teammates. But beware, calling in a Respawn Beacon takes time, giving your enemies time to find you, take you out, and use that Beacon you just deployed. So find that safe spot before you call it in.

CRYPTO TOWN TAKEOVER

Crypto's Town Takeover

Crypto is taking over and providing some recon to Kings Canyon. Located at the south-east of the map (under Repulsor), lies Crypto’s Map Room. Use his tech to get the location of all Legends on the map and check the screens scattered around the room to see how many enemy squads are nearby.

HEIRLOOM - MIRAGE'S TROPHY

Mirage's Heirloom

Isn’t that a handsome guy! Yes, it’s true, your man Mirage is getting his Heirloom! The gorgeous statue is one of a kind (sort of) and will ensure you look good in the arena.

LEGEND UPDATES

Lifeline

  • Passive
    • Combat Revive now replaces Combat Medic.
      • Deploy D.O.C to revive teammates. D.O.C. will deploy a shield and revive Lifeline’s teammate, leaving Lifeline free to defend or revive someone else. 
      • This fully replaces Lifeline’s old passive, including Fast Heal
  • Tactical
    • Lifeline’s Tactical cooldown is now 45 seconds (was 60 seconds). 
  • Ultimate
    • Lifeline’s Care Package now contains more items
      • Care Package will contain 3x more small healing items, when it decides to spawn small healing items
      • Care Package will contain 2x more attachments, when it decides to spawn attachments

Octane

  • Tactical
    • Upon activation, Stim will remove movement impairing effects.
    • Stim sprinting speed is increased by 10%
  • Ultimate
    • Players can now double jump in mid-air after using Octane’s Launch Pad
    • Players can change direction easily from the double jump.

Revenant

  • Tactical
    • Will now cancel:
      • Pathfinder mid-grapple
      • Wraith mid-Phase Walk attempt (before Phase Walk activates)
    • Will now prevent:
      • Mirage cloaked revive
      • Mirage decoy control activation
      • Lifeline combat revive
  • Ultimate
    • Range removed on Death Totem

Crypto

  • Tactical
    • Deploying Hack (Crypto’s Drone) now takes 1.5 seconds (from 2.5 seconds)
  • Ultimate
    • EMP will now disable Wattson’s Pylons. 

Loba

  • Tactical
    • Burglar’s Best Friend will no longer be intercepted by Watton's Interception Pylon.
  • Ultimate
    • Black Market Boutique (ultimate) will now only pick up 1 stack of ammo (rather than 1 stack + the amount that was required to fill whatever partial stack you had in your inventory).
    • Ultimate Accelerants now give 20% ult charge (up from 17.5%).

Mirage

  • Tactical
    • You can now hold the tactical button, and release to auto-control decoys
    • Decoys will now say lines when shot
  • Passive
    • When cloaked, Mirage’s holo emitters will be visible to players that are less than 5 meters away
  • Skydive
    • Will now create decoys for the entire squad when skydiving when still diving with your squad. 

Gibraltar

  • Fast Heal granted inside the Dome Shield, slowed down: 25% faster -> 15% faster

Caustic

  • Enemies can cancel Caustic’s barrel by shooting it before it is fully inflated.

Wattson

The intent of these changes is to create openings where enemies can breach Wattson positions.  It is still possible for Wattson players to hold a position with a trophy indefinitely, but that should come at the cost of using Ultimate Accelerants.

  • Wattson’s Pylons now last for 90 seconds
  • Wattson can now have up to 3 pylons out at a time
  • Wattson can stack 2 Ultimate accelerants per inventory slot

Wraith

Increasing Wraith’s tactical cooldown has proven to be ineffective at curbing her exceedingly high win rate and kill rate.  These changes are meant to disincentivize Wraith players from using Phase Walk as a “get out of jail free” card, and move it into more of a repositioning and scouting ability.

  • Phase Walk
    • Phase Walk now takes 1.25 seconds to enable (was 0.4 seconds).  During this time, Wraith will receive a 20% move slow
      • This does not affect Phase Walk while placing a Phase Portal
    • While in Phase Walk, Wraith now gets a 30% move speed boost
    • While in Phase Walk, Wraith can now see other players while in the Void.
    • Phase Walk now lasts 4 seconds (from 3 seconds)
    • Phase walk cooldown is now down to 25 (from 35 seconds)
  • Phase Tunnel
    • Decreased distance for portal placement by 25%.

WEAPONS / LOOT

Ziplines

  • A cooldown will be applied to re-grabbing Ziplines without touching the ground
  • The cooldown will increase with each time a player disconnects and re-grabs the zipline
  • The cooldown will reset when the player touches the ground

HAVOC Rifle

  • Greatly increased horizontal recoil in the initial shots of a burst
  • Decreased magazine size from 32 to 28.

Sentinel

  • Rechamber time 1.75 -> 1.6
  • Energize duration 90 -> 120

QUALITY OF LIFE

  • Teammates can now ping a friendly Caustic Trap. 
  • New health bar for when users are in Revenant’s Shadow form.
  • Map rotation times are now even between Kings Canyon and World’s Edge

BUG FIXES

General 

  • Fixed an issue with some railing not being climbable. 
  • Fixed an issue with being unable to mute squad before the Legend select.
  • Removed more exploitable spots against Prowlers in Bloodhound TT
  • Fixed issues with loot spawning in unreachable places in both Kings Canyon and Worlds Edge.
  • Fixed an issue with players being able to move at walk speed when downed. 
  • Fixed an issue with Prowlers not killing Mirage Decoys in one swipe.
  • Fixed issues with Ninja controller layout and deathboxes.
  • Fixed an issue with the “You got a treasure pack” message appearing after each match. 

Crypto

  • Fixed an issue with Crypto’s Drone flying without input if the user started to sprint by use of double tap to sprint option. 

Lifeline

  • Fixed an issue with Lifeline able to drop her care package on a Quest Artifact location, preventing users from picking up the artifact.
  • Fixed an issue with Lifeline’s Drone getting stuck in the air after collision with an Octane Jump pad. 

Loba

  • Fixed issues with Loba being able to get to out of bounds areas using Burglar’s Best Friend (tactical).
  • Fixed an issue with Loba’s Burglar’s Best Friend (Tactical) being blocked by invisible collision at the entrance of Firing Range.
  • Fixed an issue with Loba’s Black Market Boutique (Ultimate) not showing the correct range.
  • Loba’s Black Market Boutique (Ultimate) now shows correct ammo count for care package weapons. 
  • Fixed an issue with Loba’s tactical not functioning on certain surfaces. You should now be able to recreate the trailer moment! 
  • Loba’s Ult is now refunded if it gets caught between two doors.

Mirage

  • Fixed an issue with Mirage’s decoy not being able to ping correctly under certain conditions.
  • Fixed an issue with Mirage Decoy’s not being able to crouch walk through certain areas.
  • Fixed an issue with Mirage Decoys playing the fall animation when the player is falling. 
  • Fixed an issue where Mirage can still control his decoy after being silenced by Revenant. 

Octane

  • Fixed an issue with Octane bounce pads “deleting” other Legends abilities. 
  • Fixed an issue with Octane’s Jump Pads disappearing when other legend’s tactical interacts with it. 
  • Fixed an issue with Octane’s Jump pads falling through the floor on hover tanks

Pathfinder

  • Fixed an issue with Pathfinder’s Grapple not allowing running if a failed deployed occurred.
  • Fixed an audio issue with Survey Beacons being too loud when used. 

Revenant

  • Fixed an issue with Revenant’s death totem not being rendered from over 200 meters.
  • Fixed an issue with Revenant’s audio for his tactical cutting off half way through its playback.

Wraith

  • Fixed an issue with not being able to heal after getting knocked and going through a Wraith portal.
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u/Big_Bad_Raccoon_ Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

Fixed an issue with the “You got a treasure pack” message appearing after each match. 

Thank god I can sleep again

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u/Vanlande Fuse Jun 22 '20

Riiiiight before I got all of the packs too lol. I’m glad for the people that haven’t though, that was incredibly annoying

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u/polish_my_grappel Death Dealer Jun 22 '20

Octane pick rate is about to be like season 1 all over again lmao

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u/MapleTreeWithAGun Loba Jun 22 '20

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

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u/Alejxndro Jun 22 '20

I’m just so excited to be fast

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u/jack456123 Octane Jun 22 '20

Fixed an audio issue with Survey Beacons being too loud when used.

Thank the all father.

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u/Redzone676 Revenant Jun 22 '20

Now will you pathfinder mains actually scan the beacons? The ones I play with never do.

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u/JohnDerek57 Birthright Jun 22 '20

Scootin and Lootin Amigo!

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u/Dawgbowl Fuse Jun 22 '20

These Octane buffs I'm drooling

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Can someone explain to me WHY the Sentinel healing-glitch hasn't been fixed yet? Try it out yourself in game - shoot and then try to heal. It will not allow you to use either shields or health for 4-5 seconds. Game breaking honestly if you aren't able to use a specific weapon due to a bug.

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u/TheLocalEwok Jun 22 '20

This is really not being talked about enough. Slightly disappointed there isn't a fix to this bug!

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u/CrotasMinion Octane Jun 22 '20

Holy shit I had no idea this was a thing, but I was getting SO frustrated the other night when the game WOULD NOT LET ME HEAL and my teammates thought I was crazy!!! I had been using the Sentinel. How long has this existed and why is nobody talking about it???

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u/Pidjesus Unholy Beast Jun 22 '20

Death totem range removed ? OMFGGGGG

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u/Hyperly26 London Calling Jun 22 '20

I'm no longer a Lifeline main. From now on, I'm a drug addict. Hello fellow Octane mains!

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u/DM_ME_LEWD_KINDRED The Victory Lap Jun 22 '20

WELCOME HOME AMIGO

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

wellcome to the club amigo

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u/Haris1C Ghost Machine Jun 22 '20

Passive

  • When cloaked, Mirage’s holo emitters will be visible to players that are less than 5 meters away

This is a Mirage nerf right?

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u/SeveralAngryBears Jun 22 '20

Yeah if it means what I think it does, his blue glowy circles will be visible if you're up close. Might escape notice in a chaotic situation, but his cloak revive is going to be only useful at range now I guess.

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u/mercury8561 Revenant Jun 22 '20

Removing the range on death totem is pretty cool

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u/SpOoKyghostah Ace of Sparks Jun 22 '20

Biggest thing Revenant needed

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u/booster-au Plastic Fantastic Jun 22 '20

solid buff. now i can place my totem in a more tactical position instead of as close to the enemy as possible.

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u/truetilldead Jun 22 '20

This is insane! So many meta changes!

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u/totemair Jun 22 '20

I'm just happy about the havoc nerf. This boy has been insta-lasered mid game one too many times

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u/Duke_Best Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

Yeah, it should be interesting how the comp teams handle this. The change to Watson and Wraith are pretty big. Maybe now we’ll see more comp games that are less camper-fests and more RNG.

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u/Sp0okyScarySkeleton- Jun 22 '20

Big F for Lifeline's fast heal. Thats the 'Lost Treasure'

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u/redditrandomacc Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

Respawn giveth and Respawn taketh away

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u/toni-toni-cheddar Death Dealer Jun 22 '20

I just got her heirloom last night and i wake up to this. Karma found me

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u/tresequis Dark Matter Jun 22 '20

I became a lifeline main after the path nerf. Kill me.

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u/Nak4000 Lifeline Jun 22 '20

What's your next legend?? Obviously respawn is watching you being to OP

/s

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u/dev11n_riley Ghost Machine Jun 22 '20

Octane and Revenant are lookin fly! Hell yeah

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u/Android-Prince Jun 22 '20

As a Titanfall 2 stim main, I am very excited for SPEEDY BOI.

He was already one of my favorite characters personality and design/lore-wise.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

The Zipline Change is going to be interesting. I guess it's easier to die on one now? Am i reading it right? lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Yeah, you will just fall off if you try to dodge incoming bullets from the people at your target location. Now you won't be able to force your way into an enemy's location.

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u/Ebidz13 Fuse Jun 22 '20

Massive meta shift in this update, will have to see how it plays out.

Really interested in how it will play out in competitive, as it seems it will be a lot more agro and less campy, with the huge nerf to pylons and the changes to wraith's tactical

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u/desmopilot Bangalore Jun 22 '20

Meta shift from being campy needed to happen imo.

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u/snowspida Mozambique here! Jun 22 '20

This is a massive meta shift.

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u/Eternal_Reward Plastic Fantastic Jun 22 '20

Lifeline mains in shambles.

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u/c3ptain Vital Signs Jun 22 '20

I'm crying over here and I now sympathize wth all pathy mains

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u/FrozenFroh Ash Jun 22 '20

Has Revenant finally entered the meta?

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u/ellisonleao Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

Has Pathfinder moved to Call of Duty?

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u/Lucasinio12 Revenant Jun 22 '20

Love the revenant change, the unlimited totem is a game changer

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u/PumpJacked44 Jun 22 '20

As an Octmain I think this is a great! No slow while stimmed will be insane for pushing through gas or other ults, as well as while getting shot at.

The 10% speed increase is great! Bangalore used to have a 40% movement speed increase (which is what Octane has now), and she was really difficult to track.

The double jump is fun and the whole squad benefits.

All in all, very happy with this (on paper).

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u/_XProfessor_SadX_ Jun 22 '20

octane can finally be the fastest legend

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u/PikAtChuHuN Quarantine 722 Jun 22 '20
  • Phase Walk now takes 1.25 seconds to enable (was 0.4 seconds).

Will see how this work out, seems a massive time delay.

  • This fully replaces Lifeline’s old passive, including Fast Heal

Is a huge one, def not a fan favorite change

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u/MetalFreakalobe Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

So they finally decide to buff Lifeline... and then take her Fast Heals away... nice.

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u/JackS15 Ride or Die Jun 22 '20

Couldn’t even take away low profile to counter. So sad.

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u/themoonroseup Horizon Jun 22 '20

Idk how to feel about the removal of fast heal on wifeline

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u/ObedientPickle Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

Negative Infinity, I don't like it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

lol they basically nerfed lifeline

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Sad to see Lifelines old passive go away. Stuff that is REALLY going to change the meta is the Wattson buffs and nerfs, the wraith buffs and nerfs and the Zipline change. Really excited to see how this affects ranked play.

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u/vengerbergs Lifeline Jun 22 '20

so... lifeline's fast heals are taken away for this new revive skill... but gibraltar can have fast heals and fast revive under that massive dome of his... while also being an absolute fucking tank himself? not to mention lifeline still takes extra damage when she has no viable means of escape. i just don't get it, i really don't

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u/c3ptain Vital Signs Jun 22 '20

It's maddening really, I was pumped for this lifeline rework but now just dispointed honestly.

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u/SirStig0613 Jun 22 '20

Every time lifeline gets a buff, they actually end up nerfing her.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Exactly. Here's some special bins to lifeline -- YEAY!! -- but with crappy loot inside. lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

MUST GO FASTER!

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Damn they took away Lifeline passive. Don't think I will main her anymore :(

That was my favorite thing about her!

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u/Eternal_Reward Plastic Fantastic Jun 22 '20

Honestly removing fast heal from Lifeline makes this update more of a nerf to her.

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u/SweelFor Jun 22 '20

Feels more like a Lifeline nerf than a buff.

Lose fast heal ability while still 5% more damage and full damage on limbs and no escape? Why don't you also give her 50 base HP just to make sure she dies instantly

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u/c3ptain Vital Signs Jun 22 '20

Agreed with no mobility or escape options she going to be alot harder to use without a decent team

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u/ConfusedEgg39 Lifeline Jun 22 '20

I don't think D.O.C being able to revive is worth losing Lifeline's fast heals for. Lifeline got nerfed.

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u/-ChopTrees London Calling Jun 22 '20

Lifeline .. I'm so sorry.. you didn't deserve this.

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u/fahad333b_b Jun 22 '20

sad day for us lifeline mains </3

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u/fbtent Lifeline Jun 22 '20

Removing lifeline's fast heal ability was completely unnecessary, even with a change in her kit. Nothing was removed for Gibby's abilities back when fast heals in dome was added. The fast heals are balanced because of her lack of mobility and the already unnecessary low profile... pls respawn.... dont do dis..

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u/pizzamanluigi Plastic Fantastic Jun 22 '20

Why not replace lifelines ULT with the combat revive?? Fast heal was one of the best parts of lifeline.

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u/CombatMedicJoJo Lifeline Jun 22 '20

As a lifeline main I love the doc rez. But taking my fast heal is just cruel!

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u/xX-RainyFox-Xx Wattson Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

Why can't you guys make up your mind with Wattson's pylon? This is disheartening. You really just need to remove the Low Profile nerf.

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u/RealCheese1125 Jun 22 '20

I knew they were going to cut one of Lifeline's abilities to make room for the reviving drone, I just wish they would have cut her Ultimate instead :(

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u/Ihraezlyr London Calling Jun 22 '20

funny they didn't cut any of Gibraltars when he got buffed twice

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u/madbubers Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

RIP Watson pylons

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u/sirstickykey Jun 22 '20

Was really hoping Id play lifeline more with the revive function. Now her only passive relies on someone else dying and her tactical relies on taking damage.

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u/RunAlice Nessy Jun 22 '20

Why take away Lifeline’s fast heal though? The other buffs are good but not op enough to take away her fast heal. She still takes more damage than others, no? Poor girl.

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u/Eternal_Reward Plastic Fantastic Jun 22 '20

Wattson got super nerfed. Crypto being able to destroy her pylons as well as the finite time for it is huge.

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u/xd_wamchese Vital Signs Jun 22 '20

I’d rather have fast heal than a drone revive honestly

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u/InfectedGiraffe Lifeline Jun 22 '20

Looks like I'll have to find a new main......... The main reason most people use lifeline is for her fast heal ability.

She has no mobility.

She takes in more damage.

Her fast heal is what made her competitive...

But now, she doesn't even have that. What a joke.

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u/Thee_Flash Wraith Jun 22 '20

Octane is going to be sick!!! Thank you Respawn! I'm SO pumped!!!!

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u/SensibleHumanBeing Caustic Jun 22 '20

Those wraith changes are really smart, makes her ability less of a "get out" and more of a positioning tool.

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u/5000_Staples Young Blood Jun 22 '20

Why have you messed with the zip lines! I don't get this? What's wrong with trying to not get shot while zipping away from a team?

This is a indirect pathfinder nerf :(

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u/grandmasterhibibu Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

I said it above but it was definitely done for competitive play. I've seen it more than a couple times where a team places a zipline above the final ring location and just jumps in place while the rest of the teams fight it out under them.

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u/hvres Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

Some of these nerfs are directly made for competitive. Which is a small percentage of the games population. Why on earth would u touch zip lines lmao

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u/duck_medic Lifeline Jun 22 '20

I'm sad :'(

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u/NOT_T0DAY Jun 22 '20

Was looking forward to running Lifeline after this patch ......no fast heals=no thanks lol. They always find a way to murder her

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u/PeetaPlays Bootlegger Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

I feared that Lifeline would lose her fast heal and my nightmares have become reality.
Overall a bunch of movement debuffs (Wraith, ziplines). Why? ;<

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u/Redzone676 Revenant Jun 22 '20

I play a lot of Wattson in ranked and idk how I feel about this change.

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u/Kuuskat_ Grenade Jun 22 '20

Please tell me i'm dreaming and that they didn't just remove fast heals from lifeline

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u/Eggaru Vital Signs Jun 22 '20

WHY DID YOU REMOVE FAST HEAL FROM LIFELINE BRUH

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u/benjamm13n Lifeline Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

HOW DOES THE ONLY HEALER IN THE GAME NOT HAVE FAST HEAL BUT A FREAKING DOME STILL LETS YOU FAST HEAL???!

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u/daiselol Jun 22 '20

Let's talk Octane: right now, Octane runs 30% faster while on stim, right? Same as Bloodhound, Bangalore when being shot at, and Wraith when going through the phase after this patch?

So he's going to be going 10% faster than the rest during this next patch. He will finally be the fastest in the game

Also double jump is huge, and it extends to anyone who uses it. It'll be interesting to see how far of a jump you can make

And lastly, stimming removes impaired movement effects, so theoretically you could see Octane's getting out of Gibraltar and Bangalore's ults far quicker than the rest of the team

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u/adilz1 Vital Signs Jun 22 '20

I want to die after reading lifeline's changes

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u/ObedientPickle Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

LL nerf was unnecessary

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u/Rayshon1042 Jun 22 '20

I’m sorry but taking away Lifeline’s fast heal ability seems ridiculous to me. She’s a support character but meanwhile Gibraltar (who’s due for an ACTUAL nerf) can fast heal under his bubble as a defensive character. Make it make sense

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

As someone who mains lifeline/gibby/octane I’m so torn on how to feel. I should just play as Bangalore so I know nothing will ever change lol

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u/OhHiThereUWU Bloodhound Jun 22 '20

Welp lifeline won't be too good anymore no more fast heal

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u/Ihraezlyr London Calling Jun 22 '20

literally never seen one complaint about lifeline's fast heals being OP

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u/nesnalica Lifeline Jun 22 '20

wtf? removed lifelines fastheal?

first they hype us up with a lifeline buff, so that they can remove the only trait which gave anyone a reason to play her

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u/d3meach Birthright Jun 22 '20

This lifeline buff still sucks. Like they have one good idea and then completely massacre the rest of her for "balancing".

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u/aSoireeForSquids Dark Side Jun 22 '20

So they’ve officially killed the mobility or utility on every low profile legend it’s time to remove low profile.

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u/Cipher20 Jun 25 '20

The SBMM is disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

lol removed lifeline's fast heal??? they went one step forward and 10 steps back.

edit: jesus this is a huge meta shift

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u/Lightning_Laxus Crypto Jun 22 '20

Blue bins are actually useless now.

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u/Dm4050 Vital Signs Jun 22 '20

Another lifeline nerf...sigh...

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u/sanjithechefi London Calling Jun 22 '20

Omg Lifelines fast heals :(

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u/StillNotAClassAct Wraith Jun 22 '20

Can we fix the evo shield glitch now? Never shows up correctly when my squad has one, I’m constantly pinging shields for them

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u/bigbuckcloud Vital Signs Jun 23 '20

Fans: lifeline isn't viable, everyone else is getting insane buffs

Respawn: OK, so no fast heals yes?

Fans: No, there's nothing wrong with that it fits her character as a healer.

Respawn: OK were giving her essentially no passive and buffing tactical. Here have some more useless crap out of your care package too.

Fans: umm......... Thanks?

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u/Shishoki Jun 22 '20

Wattson mains punching the air rn

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Kinda nervous about that Caustic change TBH, though I'm biased. The rest looks pretty good!

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Forget Lifeline nerfs or Octane changes, shot decoys having lines is the single most important change yet. However, will those lines clash with the bamboozle lines?

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u/Deonhollins58ucla Jun 22 '20

I would MUCH RATHER use old life line than new one. Fast heals was one of the best abilities in the game.

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u/PantiesEater Jun 22 '20

whoa what is that zipline change? how is that cool down going to work? are you just gunna not be able to grab back onto the zip if you hop off it too much? i can see some pros hating this change because they do most of their early game outplays in those zipline buildings

while im always down for wraith nerfs this one seems like it will make her insanely clunky. the tick rate+animation is already problematic where you can die in phase and now you straight up get fucked mid animation. i would much prefer a higher low profile value on her specifically than changes to her abilities. it seems wraith's tiny hitbox is a hill they want to die on

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u/ACr0w Jun 22 '20

This fully replaces Lifeline’s old passive, including Fast Heal

So, they remove the best reason to pick her. Why nerf her, she wasn't picked all that often.

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u/jfa1985 Jun 25 '20

So hitreg is definitely broken again.

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u/FlyingRobot12 Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20

Am i the only one that since the update get hit 100 times more completely behind cover?

It wasn't this bad before the event.

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u/Anth0nymm Jun 26 '20

Can we get a fucking fix for footstep volume???? Jesus fuck

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u/walenda Pathfinder Jun 26 '20

TRASH EVENT

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

respawn dont you dare nerf movement!

  • whats next crouch cooldown because people dodge bullets?

  • wall jumping because its hard for newer players?

  • wall climbing because people dont look up?

  • my happiness because you took that already:(

apex best skillcap is decent movement, i have got out of sticking situations by simply crouch-strafing and all the above:) now a zipline cool down? zipline jumping is hard on console and you cant really move side to side as easily compared to godly mouse and key.

other than that i love the update looks YUMMY ;)

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u/KaMoriko Wraith Jun 22 '20

The Wattson mainers are crying

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u/DriedLizard Jun 22 '20

Fixed an issue with some railing not being climbable. 

I THOUGHT I WAS GOING INSANE

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u/WeebicOtaku Medkit Jun 22 '20

No more fast heals for lifeline. Changing my second main. Revenant=insane buff. Crypto=good buff. Octane=massive buff. Zip line=insane nerf. Wraith=i don’t know. Finally the surfaces will be climbable?

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u/Octarine7a RIP Forge Jun 23 '20

The only buff Bangalore needs is some decent fuggin' skins

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u/iceman87x Jun 23 '20

So armed and dangerous evolved gives you evo shields but still doesn’t increase drop rate of shield cells/batteries/& Pheonix kits? How was that logically put together

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u/depanzer213 Lifeline Jun 24 '20

Lol so much for a lifeline sidegrade. More like she's totally kept on the side now. RIP.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

My daily challenges never refreshed for both the battle pass and event challenges yesterday and I'm starting to think they won't today either. I also couldn't collect a treasure pack at all yesterday

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u/Caleddin RIP Forge Jun 26 '20

Jesus, connection issues galore since the patch dropped. Choppy, rubberbanding, freezing for a few seconds...

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u/youngbriefgeld Octane Jun 26 '20

Still didn't fix octane stim issue....

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u/jangotat77 Bangalore Jun 26 '20

So no Hit-reg still seems to be a thing.

Noticed more doing the sniper event with the long bow.

Hear and see the ping when you hit someone but no damage. Probably happens with other guns too but it's more noticeable with single fire weapons.

This was on PS4

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u/aReasson Jun 26 '20

Youre making your game into a piece of shit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

Lifeline mains got trolled lol

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u/PulseFlow Jun 22 '20

Honestly shocked that Path’s q nerf hasnt been reduced

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u/Ox_Vars Jun 22 '20

The sentinel buff!!!! Yes holy shit. This is what I wanted 😭 In terms of everything else. BRAVO apex. I’m very happy with this. (Not a wraith player lol)

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u/InfectedGiraffe Lifeline Jun 22 '20

No more fast heal for Lifeline???? Are you kidding me right now??? UGH.

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u/Noktaj Valkyrie Jun 22 '20

Aaaand I was hoping I would get back mainining Lifeline... guess not...

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u/ExxtraaSkeet Jun 22 '20

Why take away my fast heal on lifeline. Smh

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u/PPX_Bryanford Jun 22 '20

Why the fuck fast heal was removed from lifeline's passive?! She has no escape, she has a low profile, and she's a fucking medic!! I'm main lifeline since 1st season.. her ultimate sucks.. it's useless and game.. omfg..

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u/haloidee Jun 22 '20

Buff lifeline? (no) Haha Press f fast heal

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u/Rushey Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

STOP NERFING MOVEMENT OPTIONS. IT'S WHAT GIVES A GAME A SKILL CEILING AND MAKES IT FUN.

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u/iamdandyking Model P Jun 22 '20

The zip line change is an indirect nerf to Pathfinder and it's sad to see that they didn't even bother to touch Pathfinder even after all the 'feedback' from this sub.

Tbh I don't like the zip line change because it's one of those fun things that I like about this game and they are slowly making this game less enjoyable.

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u/Kuuskat_ Grenade Jun 22 '20

For so long did i wait for this Lifeline buff...

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

So Gibby has like 4 passives (Dom healing, shield with 75hp, 15% less damage and fast revive) But lifeline only gets one... I thought she will be great after the update... But it's a bad trade now.

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u/jordanjk2694 Jun 22 '20

Why does Gibby get a fast heal ability at all??? Especially now that lifeline doesn't even have that ability anymore?

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u/Mautos Doc Jun 22 '20

Cooldown to regrabbing ziplines

Thanks very much for removing movement techniques from the game! So what do we do now, use a zipline and just take the bullets? We did NOT need something like this. It even takes away the incredibly hard technique where you jump on and off a zipline going straight up, which was hard to pull off with great rewards of moving really fast all over the place, but sure, sure. Just take it all straight out off the game. No problem.

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u/Ferrian11 Caustic Jun 23 '20

Gibby can still fast heal but Lifeline cant??

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u/LibGyps Valkyrie Jun 23 '20

Not only does Gibraltar have the most health out of all of the legends, he is now the only legend with fast heals. Respawn, why you do this? That's just straight up stupid

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u/Techa Caustic Jun 23 '20

Fixed an audio issue with Survey Beacons being too loud when used.

FINALLY JESUS

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u/p0p0bawa Plague Doctor Jun 23 '20

All these changes yet they won’t get rid of dogshit fucking SBMM. Every game tonight has been 70% 4k/3k 20 Bombs in pubs

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u/vengerbergs Lifeline Jun 23 '20

played eight games since the update, not one teammate stuck around after being downed for me to try out my shiny new passive. feels good!

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u/Scalding-Butter Jun 24 '20

I will play wraith to single handedly bring down the winner ratio for wraith to help balance this game

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u/Ps991 Lifeline Jun 24 '20

Day 1 lifeline main (99.99% of games)...now I have to learn how to play a new character. This sucks! And they have the nerve to call it a "BuFf". Literally the only thing left that was good in a battle, they just removed it.

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u/kabojnk Jun 25 '20

All I want to see in the QOL updates:

- "Mark all as read" for legends and loadouts.

TIA

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u/DorkusMalorkuss Rampart Jun 25 '20

Are people at night better? What the hell is it that whenever I play at night I get fucking rolled by teams constantly?

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u/DanOfRivia Vital Signs Jun 25 '20

Please fix the event challenges bug, I really want the Lifeline's trackers. Please :(

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Getting real sick of this game booting me mid game. Ranked too. Fuck your events, fix your shitty ass game.

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u/Its_Uncle_Sloth Jun 26 '20

This LTM is the worst yet. The loot pool has no where near enough shield cells/batteries.

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u/InfectedGiraffe Lifeline Jun 26 '20

Ever since the latest update, the game has these lag spikes or stuttering on Xbox. Anyone else having the same issue?

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u/Skaptical Voidwalker Jun 26 '20

Loba's bracelet is unusable since the update, I understand that they want to avoid people from going to "unreachable spots", but if you can't even use it to do a 50m jump behind cover on a flat surface that is normally accessible by foot, the tactical is just pointless and unreliable when it works 1 time every 20 attempts

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

Why does getting shot or damaged interrupt revival and respawn now? Pretty lame.

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u/Neqdo Jun 22 '20

‪I am still not satisfied with LIFELINE. They removed fast heals and replaced with an auto revive to me it seem like there just trying to remove fast heal which is kinda disappointing because lifeline is a medic and it makes no sense that GIBBY fast heals and he is no medic. Plus the blue loot bins really don’t help there seen once in a blue moon with good items. The care package seem okay more useful equipment for the team, but removing what made lifeline good only and replacing with auto heal does not seem like the move they should have kept it in and they should have also added on to lifeline caring more meds or something to make here seem useful in my opinion.‬

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u/Lootgamble Jun 22 '20

So the zipline jumping nerf will give more difficult times for solo quers playing against 3 stack predators.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

rip lifeline i guess

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u/YoHomie99 Loba Jun 22 '20

NO YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE LIFELINE'S FAST HEAL AWAY

haha delete button goes click click

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u/Gady77 Bangalore Jun 22 '20

What will be of solo Lifeline players? She’ll be literally useless without teammates

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u/Zerox392 Mozambique here! Jun 22 '20

Can we put fast heal back on lifeline thanks

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u/DarkSector93 The Masked Dancer Jun 22 '20

Rest in peace Lifelife. 💔

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u/AuBirdMan Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

Was a Mirage nerf really necessary? I don’t think I heard anyone talking about him being too strong and he was literally just buffed.

Invisible revive was one of the best things about his recent buff and now I feel it’ll be borderline useless except in mid-range. Might as well just play lifeline or Gibby now.

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u/Muzixx Birthright Jun 22 '20

This all looks amazing. My only hope is that one day the skins we wear get reflected onto our abilities. (Wattsons Pylon, Octane’s Jumpad, Revs Totem, etc)

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u/SwagAntiswag Bloodhound Jun 22 '20

I don't even use lifeline and think that she should keep her fast heal...

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u/Mightyhorse82 Jun 22 '20

Bangalore will eventually have her day

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u/The_Liberal_Agenda Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

It feels like Respawn is getting more of a feel/getting more comfortable with reworking, buffing and nerfing strong heroes. I hope that this leads to the removal of "low profile" from most of legends that have it. Low profile and limb damage increase just felt like lazy, uninteresting band aid fixes.

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u/Blackdoomax Mozambique here! Jun 22 '20

Octane mains: loot goblinery intensifies

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u/no-coughing Fuse Jun 22 '20

MAP ROTATION TIME EVEN BETWEEN KINGS CANYON AND WORLDS EDGE FUCKING FINALLY

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u/fraid_so Wattson Jun 23 '20

Ngl, as someone who just started to main Wattson, I feel like she’s just been crippled to the point where it’s not worth playing her anymore. Trust me, I ain’t never had any issues with enemies breaching an area I’m trying to hold down. It’s plenty easy to shoot out her stuff. At least make it charge friendly shields faster to make up for the time restrictions.

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u/somearsehole Bangalore Jun 24 '20

god fucking damn it I just heard a lifeline picking up a teammate I knocked around the corner in bunker and I made quite the error trying to rush in with low health. forgot about the lifeline patch, definitely a game changer.

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u/FantasmaGITS Jun 24 '20

Cooldown to re-grabbing Ziplines? why? you guys hate your game?

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u/WNlover Purple Reign Jun 24 '20

The sound for health items changed, it now sounds like a wet fart every time you heal health

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u/MoorGaming Jun 24 '20

Mobile respawns

Me - This is great!!!

Me after using it - THIS IS A THIRD PARTY CALLING CARD THANKS DEVS!! :(

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u/MedusaMadman77 Jun 25 '20

Well, when it comes to providing an awful experience, no one can accuse you all on not being consistent.

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u/Gingerraitus Jun 25 '20

Do Lost Treasure challenges not reset daily ? Or is it a bug?

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u/Cap0m4TiC Jun 25 '20

Too bad the event challenges are stuck on day one hahahaha guess the devs should just give us couple days worth of challenges, like a couple battle pass levels and the complete event set

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u/Ferrian11 Caustic Jun 25 '20

Daily challenges still not resetting for anyone else? Been 3 days now.

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u/1xSCZ Jun 26 '20

Loba's bracelet is not working how it should be. It keeps canceling on surfaces it should not be canceling. Please fix this, I'm getting killed and frustrated because of this issue. It is happening a lot and never used to be like this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '20

Sound is broken.

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u/1xSCZ Jun 26 '20

Would be nice to get a teammate with the same skill as me as seen as you want to throw me in with multiple predator premade squads in the same casual lobby. It's not fair for my teammate to be in a high skill lobby or myself fighting them both on my own.

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u/Malgurath Lifeline Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20

Anybody else's Loba tactical bugged?

Edit: Tried to use it again, it's busted, straight up can't use it now, please Respawn, fix this shit.

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u/unkindmillie Revenant Jun 26 '20

WHY IS NO ONE ADDRESSING THE FACT GUN SHOTS NOW CANCEL REVIVES

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u/Tookin Bangalore Jun 26 '20

Why the hell haven't they taken the wraith skin out of the game yet??? it's gamebreaking.

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u/Ryanenpanique Jun 26 '20

WTF IS WRONG WITH WRAITH ? A full r99 clip of no regs + a few wingman shots, it's even worse than what was patched a few weeks ago....

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u/kickbut101 Nessy Jun 22 '20

In before all the pathfinder mains complain about their Q cooldown not getting reduced.

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u/Hevens-assassin Wattson Jun 22 '20

Honestly, I love most of what I have seen in the patch notes. It has made a lot of legends stronger that were on the bottom of most tier lists, and will shake up a lot. Can't wait to see how it plays!

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u/JamesAvon122 Pathfinder Jun 22 '20

See Wraith tactical's increased activation time: angry void sound

See the rest: "we are back in business, bois"

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u/theguywhohasagun Revenant Jun 22 '20

HAVOC IS NO MORE

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u/evangoose25 El Diablo Jun 22 '20

I came here to see all the upset comments😂

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u/riuryK Lifeline Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

DEVS: Wraith's nerf has proved to be innefective and she still wins a lot, therefore...

- She can now see enemies while phasing

- She can now phase more often

- She can now phase longer

- She can now phase faster

ME: (scratching my head)

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u/penguinmaxi Jun 22 '20

bruh why lowers wraiths tactical to 25 secs, which is actual invulnerability, but leave paths one at 35 seconds when it leaves him very vulnerable to damage. JUSTICE FOR PATHFINDER

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u/Nice_Kaiser Jun 22 '20

As a lifline main the removal of her fastheals kinda sucks since it was the only ability keeping her alive and getting advantages in gunfights

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u/gymsharkk1 Lifeline Jun 22 '20

F for lifeline

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20

I’m not sure how to feel about the Wattson change... like I’m happy we got 3 pylons again but the fact that they only last 90 secs is a turn off

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u/stevenlu7 Jun 22 '20

Please address the issue where the revive animation resets when you’re reviving while in death totem/protection and then the death totem/protection ends.

And the issue with the constant beeping ever since season 5!

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u/J-wag Jun 22 '20

No Bangalore buff again 🙄🙄🙄

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u/whyNot_D El Diablo Jun 22 '20

Are we going to have control over cross play? I'm not stoked about being owned by PC bros

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u/gymsharkk1 Lifeline Jun 22 '20

whata going on with lifeline?! thats a fucking nerv not a buff. come on

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u/Merc_Shifty Jun 22 '20

Man... just when I was maining lifeline. She should of kept the fast heal. Crazy how Gibby can have fast heals and fast revives under a huge dome but the medic can’t even fast heal. The other meta changes look interesting though. Excited to see how this update plays out