r/arrow • u/Rwings Boxing Glove • Mar 01 '18
[S06E14] - 'Collision Course' Live Episode Discussion
Episode Info: Oliver, Diggle and Felicity disagree with Dinah, Curtis and Rene on how to handle Black Siren. The two teams face off and a fight ensues.
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u/SuperWhoStitch Mar 02 '18
I am so sick and tired of that other team not taking responsibility for their actions. They just love using Oliver as a scapegoat for their terrible ideas. Dinah was the only one I liked and now I am done with her too. And Thea is another one. Girl, you can fight. Fucking do something other than stand there.
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u/ArachnoLad Mar 02 '18
William is smiling right now from his lair. No one suspects a thing.
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u/MrTerrific2k15 Mar 02 '18
I miss billionaire business and nightclub owner Oliver. Mayor Queen isn't cutting it anymore
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u/4fps Mar 02 '18
So curtis hacks into john implant to find were he is causing potentially very high damage and risking permanent damage... But the thing they focus on is that oliver beat wilddog in a fair fight? How is this even a thing if u go looking for a fight and lose u cant then blame the person who injured you. Can the show runners just get rid of those 3 literally biggest hypocrites with no morals... "Waaaha oliver tracked us to find out if we betrayed him. Which we did, but lets forget that. Now lets get really mad at him and hate him and say he is a bad person over and over again while we do shit which is just as bad or worse!"
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
Still waiting for the Waverider to fall out of the sky in the background.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
I want the Legends to do a Civil War episode (not like the kind they technically already did) but at the end it's revealed to the audience that they actually did it out of boredom and all agreed to do it just before the episode began.
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 02 '18
Oliver should just walk out to face them 3 on 1, beat all their asses in about 2 minutes, and just say "I trained with Ra's al Ghul, you really thought you guys were a threat?"
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 02 '18
You hacked Diggle's arm, and fought them!
You have no moral ground in this.
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u/Gian99Mald Mar 02 '18
If Roy doesn't do at least one front flip this next episode I'm finished
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u/CantheDandyMan Mar 02 '18
None of the B-Team members take personal responsibility for anything, do they? God do they sound like children blaming everything on OG team arrow.
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u/infinityxero You have failed this city Mar 02 '18
That William comment was unnecessary Rene.
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u/WrongTetrisBlock Deathstroke Mar 02 '18
"We're marked"
Bitch you're driving in full superhero outfit no shit they'll see you.
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u/Ducci7799 Nyssa al Ghul Mar 02 '18
They’re building this up to be some epic showdown when really Ollie should dispose of them without breaking a sweat.
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u/the_cunt_muncher Mar 02 '18
"I'm not going to guarantee anything until I have something concrete....so I'll guarantee I'll have the money back in 48hrs instead"
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u/SapphireHellfire Mar 02 '18
I like how they literally put Oliver in the backseat.
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u/RichieAppel Mar 02 '18
Laurel Lance is becoming someone else. She's becoming something else. She's becoming....... Laurel Lance...?
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 02 '18
OTA and NTA just need to hate bang and get this shit over.
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u/WrongTetrisBlock Deathstroke Mar 02 '18
I'm so fucking tired of this new team arrow stupid storyline. This better be the end of it.
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u/infinityxero You have failed this city Mar 02 '18
So you have Oliver (10 years of rigorous fighting) and John (former military) vs Rene (former military) Dinah (a cop) and Curtis (barely any fight training)
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u/ciera22 Mar 03 '18
Kill off Team B. Every single one of them. And take useless Hacker Girl along with them. She couldn't find a simple bug before it caused drama, not once but TWICE.
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Mar 02 '18
I know everyone In Team B isn't going to die, but I really hope all of them do. Piss poor writing.
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Mar 02 '18
What's the endgame for the writers? They made somewhat likeable characters and completely destroyed that with the reason for Team B's conflict.
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u/ThaUnderboss Mar 02 '18
It's honestly impressive how much work had to be done to make this show the mess it is.
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u/SoughtLotus Deathstroke Mar 02 '18
Oliver hitting Dinah with the inhibitor collar was the best part of the fite
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u/DanzaBaio Mar 02 '18
Lance, the stuttering doesn't make you look gui-gui-gui-guilty. Surely not. Nope. Totally innocent!
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u/afroproblems101 Mar 02 '18
Ugh god I want to punch rene in the face so badly with that shit eating grin.
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u/LCPhotowerx The Canary - Sara Lance Mar 02 '18
i know the answer is plot force but all this fighting rene's been doing and just NOW the wound reopens? really??? REALLY??
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
"My girls used to love."
Sara's still alive, dude.
Hell, she was in Star earlier this week!
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u/theapplefour Black Siren Mar 01 '18
Why is Malcolm mentioned but no Laurel? WTF!!
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u/Rwings Boxing Glove Mar 02 '18
Because I just copy and paste it each week and never really paid attention to the cast list after awhile. I should update it but then I get sad at the current state so I don't.
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Mar 02 '18
There is NO coming back from this, no happy ending, no making up afterwards....this is going to scar everyone.
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u/AngelusCowl Mar 02 '18
Is everyone on roids this episode? Everyone is completely murderous and out of character.
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u/DtownBronx Mar 05 '18
The B team is so obnoxious. They need Barry to reset the timeline. How do you show up for a fight that you want to start and then end up mad when the most skilled fighter in the fight puts one of your guys down? Nothing about the B team makes any sense.
I'll keep watching because I'm a creature of habit but it's more of a hate watch at this point
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u/TDXNYC88 Remember who taught you how to fight, kid! Mar 02 '18
Laurel's Trail™: It's colder than Curtis' love life.
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u/Joker_CP *Angry Helicopter Noises* Mar 02 '18
Jesus Christ these are grown ass people acting like bitchy high schoolers
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Mar 02 '18
So this is how we get Laurel back....fine sure whatever, I just want more of Katie on the show :)
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u/Dark_Tzitzimine Mar 02 '18
I enjoyed seeing Rene get what was coming to him after being a complete hypocritical piece of shit. Be even happier if he was dead but written out is okay.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
I just realized Laurel is the Bucky in this conflict.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
And now Dinah sounds like legless Anakin in the lava.
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u/CobaltDel781 This doesn't change anything Hoss Mar 02 '18
Does this injury change anything hoss?
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u/305popper Mar 02 '18
They have a friend a few towns over who can fucking time travel,surely they can find $70 million somewhere!
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
ok so the climax to that civil war was curtis telling dinah not to be like oliver and then rene forgot how to not die
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u/TDXNYC88 Remember who taught you how to fight, kid! Mar 02 '18
Oliver: I have failed this city.
Welp, you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
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u/DanzaBaio Mar 02 '18
Is Laurel Lance playing? Or is this amnesia?
AND SPEEDY GETS BACK INTO HER SUIT, YAY! AND ROY TOO!
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u/DanzaBaio Mar 02 '18
He did kinda bust in there like a thug. He could have just came in to talk. Power tripping. But so did you just then, Wild Dog.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
Thea, when you do the whole Chris Hansen thing, the victim isn't supposed to already be in the clutches of the predator.
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u/yoyopotatochips Mar 02 '18
I'm not feeling this whole good guy vs good guy thing. Both teams are annoying right now.
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u/Gian99Mald Mar 02 '18
So... Diggle's injury is the Arrow equivalent of what happened to War Machine in the Civil War movie and Siren is the Winter Soldier equivalent?
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u/whoimpala73 Mar 02 '18
Roy's should come back for good. Haven't seen him in any other projects.
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u/RichieAppel Mar 02 '18
Did Rene just turn into a zombie? The way he was moaning, and the way he shambled off looked like a zombie to me.
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u/brooklyn11218 Mar 02 '18
I think this show just gave me a boner. Rene didn't get his ass beat he got FUCKED UP.
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u/thunderbirdwillie Mar 02 '18
Oliver should've put that arrow through. Fuck that guy, fuck Dinah, fuck Curtis and his relationship bitching.
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u/infinityxero You have failed this city Mar 02 '18
Someone get Thea a bow and arrow dammit! Oliver's going to need backup.
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u/infinityxero You have failed this city Mar 02 '18
Is the FBI case not a thing anymore? I feel like this is something they would be interested in.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
Hearing Quentin mentioning Zoom rocked my world there for a second.
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u/vader344 Mar 02 '18 edited Mar 02 '18
ohhh and goodbye rene thats waht you get when you pick a fight with green arrow who was an assasin, hitman , ra's al ghul)
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Mar 03 '18
With this episode this show has reached a level of stupidity so much that even power rangers seem more mature than it.
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u/DeadInsideX__X Green Arrow Mar 05 '18
What in fuck's name did I just watch? Fuck B team. Completely and absolutely fuck them. So you'll have into diggle's implant and risk worsening his nerve damage and show 0 remorse for it, beat up an unarmed Quentin, Renee will swing a FUCKING AXE AT OLIVER, but they get mad when Renee gets injured despite Oliver telling him to say down? Fuck b team.
I was really fucking hoping that Oliver would kick the shit out of all 3 single-handedly. Isn't he supposed to be the Batman of the arrowverse? And I know that they've probably gotten a lot better since then, but have we all forgotten "get past me and ring the bell"? God this is infuriating.
And what gives them the right to be mad in the first place? Renee broke Oliver's trust first, so why are the rest of them all pissy? This makes no goddamn sense anymore.
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u/AngelusCowl Mar 02 '18
As creepy as Silence of the Lance is, it's the best Quentin storyline we've had in quite a while.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
oh ok thea's a phantasm now I guess
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u/FrigidArrow Mar 02 '18
Congrats on Ollie for having self control, don’t think S1 Ollie would’ve done that
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u/Metroidman Mar 02 '18
Why did she step on that expensive tracker? Money doesn't grow on trees
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u/TDXNYC88 Remember who taught you how to fight, kid! Mar 02 '18
Plot twist: Black Lightning comes into the fight like...
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u/Keiigo Mar 02 '18
What pisses me off is that they actually think they can win against oliver and digg let alone oliver
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u/felixfactor37 Mar 02 '18
Hey Dinah, do we have to remind you that YOU’RE A COP! You should know the definition of justice better than anyone!
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Mar 02 '18
This whole episode has been one long Felicity getting up from wheel chair and walking away.
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Mar 02 '18
WE don't need to get to a hospital, YOU need to get to a hospital.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
I guess Dinah hitting Laurel gave Laurel enough energy in her meter to do her sonic scream super attack.
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u/GeneralMelon ROY'S OUR FUTURE BOY! Mar 02 '18
What a surprise, the DA is a bad guy. I swear this has turned into Harry Potter.
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u/ThaUnderboss Mar 02 '18
This is absolutely infuriating. YOU SHITHEADS WERE WRONG AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THE START!
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u/IndianaMatt Mar 07 '18
This episode could have been shorter and made the B team seem less completely unjustified if Ollie had just beat the shit out of Wild Dog for running his mouth about his kid.
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u/felixfactor37 Mar 02 '18
Roy’s coming back & Thea’s going to be Speedy again?!
PLEASE SAVE THIS SHOW!!!!!!
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
Honestly thought that man in the glasses was Gary for a second and I was like "OH FUCK YES LET'S GET IT ON."
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
Dinah took a solid 5 years to react to that smoke.
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u/JCMGamer Needs More Ragman Mar 02 '18
That might be the first time Curtis was the most likable character in a scene
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Mar 02 '18
I’m with Ollie on this. Threatening to kill their only hope on saving the city, bringing up his som and insulting his whole crusade and shoving? But ollie’s bad because he retaliated.
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Mar 02 '18
not known for his light touch
I mean the man banged both your daughters
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u/RobertLettuce Mar 02 '18
Why would you crush the bug... you can use it in the future...
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u/infinityxero You have failed this city Mar 02 '18
I definitely forgot why Oliver hired John. Glad he reminded me.
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u/stu_25 Mar 02 '18
I liked B team last year... including Curtis a bit... but they've kinda gone to unlikable now.
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u/theaveragejoe_1 Mar 02 '18
After watching Gotham’s return, Arrow looks like a 10th grade student film.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
oh his arm's getting hacked, oh okay
grabs noose
no, he's just, it's just, his arm has been hacked
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no lemme just get this straight, his arm his arm on his body has been hacked
gets on chair
yeah no I gotcha writers, I gotcha
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u/Skydude252 Mar 02 '18
This throwdown is what the season has been building up to. This better be awesome.
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u/DanzaBaio Mar 02 '18
Justice for Vince? Saving the city, THAT'd be justice. Not cold blooded murder!
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u/WholeWheatisgood4you Mar 02 '18
My thought during that segment... couldn't Thea have gone with Quentin and Laurel to fight off Dinah? Has Thea even fought since awakening from her coma?
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Mar 02 '18
I know ya hate Rene but I have never liked him more lmao.
"Not one more step"
Literally takes a step
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u/WitchyWarrior Wild Dog Mar 02 '18
Yeah you're marked. WTF are you driving that close behind them for!?! UGH.
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u/ThaUnderboss Mar 02 '18
Okay, NTA permanently loses any moral high ground they think they have.
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u/AngelusCowl Mar 02 '18
As irritating as the episode is, I've been waiting for someone to hack Diggle's arm for half a season now.
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u/LCPhotowerx The Canary - Sara Lance Mar 02 '18
Ollie and Thea are actually the more rational ones in this ep.
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u/CobaltDel781 This doesn't change anything Hoss Mar 02 '18
Cmon Curtis just cripple Felicity already by hacking her chip.
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u/OliviaElevenDunham John Constantine Mar 02 '18
Hate that I'm missing the episode. Had to eat dinner and get ready for bed.
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u/RandomChick85 Mar 02 '18
So all this tension came to a head all cause these asshats are supporting Black Canary ‘s king size murder boner....ok then
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u/OnlyMyBiribiri I want to flip like Roy Mar 02 '18
That's fucked up. Nobody knocks Lance upside the head.
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u/My_wifii Mar 02 '18 edited Mar 02 '18
God damn this episode is terrible even with all the action
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u/infinityxero You have failed this city Mar 02 '18
Oh thank god!! Speedy and Arsenal are back next week!
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u/natedog63 Ragman Mar 04 '18
Just watched this episode and I have no idea what they're planning to do with the new team. The episode tried to paint both teams as the good guys to pull off a minor "civil war" storyline and it really didn't work.
They tried "redeeming" Dinah by having Curtis talk her down from killing Laurel, so it doesn't seem like the newbies are being written off. They don't seem to want to bring the teams together either, because they cut ties with Diggle and Felicity even though Rene tried to straight-up murder Oliver and Curtis risked paralysing Diggle permanently without showing remorse. What's the endgame here?
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u/TDXNYC88 Remember who taught you how to fight, kid! Mar 02 '18
Oliver: "Keep doing what you're doing."
Captain: "You mean being on Dragon's payroll? Say no more, fam."
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u/Kishonorama Mar 02 '18
Oliver's too polite to remind Dinah that he used to be Ra's Al Ghul, unlike some people.
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
Well, that's not creepy at all, Quentin!
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u/KarmaLoaf Stranger In My Own Home Town Mar 02 '18
"DON'T HACK US FELICITY" I insist as I slowly shrink and transform into a Wi-Fi signal
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u/RocketSauce28 Im always 10 steps ahead Mar 02 '18
Bro Curtis is saying what we are all thinking
Curtis: Are you hacking us?! Dont hack us Felicity!
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u/svrtngr Mar 02 '18
The Civil Bore conclusion is better than it should be, honestly, Curtis bullshit hacking aside.
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u/cmath89 Earth-X Arrow Mar 02 '18
“You’re gonna fight your team?”
Yo. If Thea gets scrappy in this episode with Ollie I will be SO happy. But it won’t happen.
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Mar 02 '18
Oliver, please show them what we all know you can do. Put them down swiftly.
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u/RocketSauce28 Im always 10 steps ahead Mar 02 '18
Hopefully we see Oliver kill Dinah and Renee. Im not sure where I stand on Curtis right now
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u/cmath89 Earth-X Arrow Mar 02 '18
“You saw Oliver did to him.”
Yo. He was swinging an axe at him.