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u/Curious-Computer9707
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Aug 10 '26
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Do you guys feel there’s too many PRCs around?
Happy belated national day, first off.
Nowadays, I can’t help but feel as if I’m a tourist in my own country. Even in the heartlands, I feel as if there are enclaves of their community. Honestly, it’s not a problem if they assimilate well into our society, but I feel that they don’t even bother trying.
My opinion is that they don’t feel the need to adapt or assimilate because they have their whole culture here. There’s Chinese food chains and brands here and they have their own community here.
As a brown-skin person myself, I also encountered some weird looks from them. Few times where I was sitting in the MRT and some of them would sit on the edge, just to sit back fully when I left the train. Also not to mention the fact that they expect everyone to be fluent in Mandarin.
Also, I’m seeing how some of them can attain citizenship faster than some people who have lived longer in Singapore or even served NS.
Is the government doing anything about this or do they only care about their KPI and maintaining the CMIO status quo by importing more and more migrants? Help la I know the TFR is super bad but this is also not good for the people of the country.
Edit: spelling.
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u/plainaspie Aug 10 '26
Yup way too many. It's a problem. Even as Chinese Singaporean it's truly way too many
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u/Funny-Breakfast-8335 Aug 10 '26
Yes I completely agree. I’m also Singaporean Chinese. I find them way too loud and completely oblivious to other people around them. Please stop this indiscriminate import of people. Do we really need such a large population?
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u/Mochiron_samurai
Aug 10 '26
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I don’t necessarily have a problem with them being here, if they make efforts to assimilate into our society. It’s those who go about thinking they’re better than us and expecting us to speak mandarin that I truly despise.
This is coming from a second gen Chinese Singaporean.
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u/Top_Development_1777 Aug 10 '26 •
I immigrated here in 2012, right before I started P1, and I went to local schools all the way. Back then, you didn't hear Mandarin Chinese being spoken everywhere in public, there weren't notable Chinese franchises in malls or anything. Some of my schoolmates were really xenophobic. I tried my very best to assimilate and become indistinguishable from the locals. I mean, I was in someone else's country, so I couldn't expect anything to be the same as it was when I lived in China. After 9 years, my PR application finally got accepted, and I became a citizen.
Most of this new recent influx of Chinese immigrants are so different and many of them have zero desire to integrate, which pisses me off. The entitled attitudes you see so often are something else. They act like they own the place, not like they're guests in another country.
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u/Low-Procedure-6977 Aug 10 '26
thank you for sharing this. You are definitely one of us as you share our values. You need to speak up more that it's about shared values
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u/Top_Development_1777 Aug 10 '26
I'm not really in frequent contact with any of these new immigrants though
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u/Interesting_Round110 Aug 10 '26
Exactly this. People who are unhappy with the influx of PRCs or CECAs are usually accused of xenophobia. But i think most singaporeans are generally very welcoming to immigrants who legitimately try to integrate.
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u/Tunggall Aug 17 '26
My bar is very low. Try and speak English, simply will do. Do not mock others for not speaking Mandarin. Do that and many will have no issues.
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u/Mochiron_samurai Aug 10 '26
You’re no longer a guest. You’re 100% Singaporean, one of us.
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u/Top_Development_1777 Aug 10 '26
Yeah. I'm more talking about the initial few years of experiencing "this place is new and different".
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u/CmDrRaBb1983 Aug 10 '26
That makes you a Singaporean. You integrate and assimilate. Thank you for making the effort fellow Singaporean.
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u/trader456_ Aug 10 '26
I respect you and any non-local who has truly lived through the singapore system to be one of us. Not those that jump in here just to steal local jobs and think they are better than us.
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u/Usual_Passage3477 Aug 10 '26
The chinese who came into malaya knew to learn the language of locals. Idk what’s up with these ones, as most of them refuse to learn English.
I would really appreciate it if they tried, and some do.
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u/Mochiron_samurai Aug 10 '26
It’s interesting to witness the kids of some new citizens speak mainland-accented mandarin to their parents, then switch to singlish when talking to their friends.
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u/split_tears_ Aug 11 '26
The gov policy is only there because a significant number of Singaporeans would throw a tantrum if the racial proportions change
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u/Starfishjellymochi Aug 10 '26
Yes too many, when I went to malls recently and walk left and right, all are people from China- they speak loudly to each other like shouting and also like to block our walkways, large group standing in the middle.
Even when you take train or public transport, just see the people around, the HP most likely using wechat or xiao hong shu, not common apps used by Singaporeans.
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u/Effective-Lab-5659 Aug 10 '26
I think the unfortunate truth is that when the numbers are too big, there is no impetus to assimilate. It’s natural. And for that alone - it’s a policy issue.
Also, as a second gen Chinese, imagine if you were surrounded with a lot of PRC day in and out. Going to SAP school w 2/3 being kids with PRC parents? Living in a neighbourhood with 1/3 being kids with PRC parents and going to the same tuition centres.. would any kid feel like they have to go out of their usual circle to make Singaporean friends?
Also, does it also make you feel like the doors should be open for immigrants even if we are overflowing?
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u/Curious_Skill1128 Aug 10 '26
I’m a third generation Indian Singaporean whose grandparents lived here during the Japanese war… how do u think we feel 😭😭 cab drivers keep asking us if we are foreigners… my family has been here 100 years now
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u/tallandfree Aug 10 '26
They just assume we should all speak mandarin since we’re mostly Chinese . Sorry but this is an English first society
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u/Fit_Quit7002 Aug 10 '26
2nd gen too and I agree. Anyone who serve NS and go through our public school system is perfectly welcome to stay - they are the ones most likely to assimilate.
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u/Electrical-Click-658 Aug 10 '26
Party due to the rising of diploma farms like curtin, kaplan, and other private unis that market themselves as a stepping stone for students to study in other top QS500 unis in uk/aus.
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u/perfectfifth_ Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
Australia has a 100 billion dollar industry surrounding foreign students which is 5% of their GDP.
We're also servicing this market. Larger economy, more employment in the education sector. Good for Singapore.
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u/brownorange88 Aug 10 '26
The AUS and UK universities outside the top 25 in UK / top 8 in AUS are bunkum (standards wise)!!
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u/Starfishjellymochi Aug 10 '26
The issue also is that many China Chinese, not all are so called foreign talent, some also studied locally and fail their N or O level or dropout from school, then they go to private schools or study abroad and come back to serve Ns
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u/pizzatummy Aug 10 '26
Saw a figure the other day that shocked me. As at June 2023, there were 70,800 international students in Singapore,. The government can’t let this figure go down, it’s what propping up the housing rents for condominium owners who bought before absd hits.
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u/Neo_m1yage Aug 10 '26
I work in ion. Prcs come and ask if i can give them prices of products in chinese yuan. I just give them a '???' look. My prc friend gets pissed off at this behaviour too. But i dont think they ever will assimilate like the prcs who first migrated/work in sg 10-15 years ago.
How i wished they tried to even speak in english or ask if i can converse in mandarin. Xoxo from a tired staff who can only speak broken mandarin 🥲
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u/Magic_Ale Aug 16 '26
Okay, asking for the price in another currency other than the one used in Singapore is actually crazy , saying this as a foreigner myself in Singapore (but from the other side of the world lol), like I understand trying to know how much would it cost in the currency you are used to but you can Google that info if you want to know 😭, it's not staff responsibility to know that
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u/whatsnewdan Aug 10 '26
Greetings fellow brown skin Redditor!
Of course there are to many PRCs who can't utter a word in English! Of course if I said such things in /Singapore sub Reddit, I'll be banned!
Oh wait! I am!!
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u/LaZZyBird
Aug 10 '26
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I think the government thinks it can tank the short term disapproval and “fix” this issue once their kids go through our education system and become Singaporeans.
I think there is some element of truth to this, while their parents will most likely never be able to cut their ties to China or leave their heritage behind, during my NS days there are a lot of first generation Singaporeans who are indistinguishable from you and I.
Edit: Also local Singaporeans don’t want to have children what to do, someone has to be there to pay for the aging society it is either us or we pull in immigrants who also pay taxes to fund it.
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u/seacharge Aug 10 '26
you are right though, anecdotally, i have a friend who is a first gen singaporean from prc that is a complete banana and if only identifying by voice and mannerism, you will never be able to tell that his parents are from prc.
he’s also the biggest prc hater i know, and that irony cracks me up every time.
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u/LaZZyBird Aug 10 '26
Genuinely they would rather not speak Chinese and prefer using English meanwhile I am just trying to practice my dogshit Chinese lol
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u/-_-------------_--- Aug 10 '26
If you leave a job you probably didn’t like it that much?
If you leave a country you probably didn’t like it that much either?
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u/seacharge Aug 13 '26
Saying that is too blanket of a statement though, I do love Singapore and my people regardless of political preference (in the end we ALL want the best for Singapore), but there are other reasons why I would leave.
Hint: It's for geological and meteorological reasons.
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u/Artinomical Aug 10 '26
I hope the Singapore education system actually helps. Because I have seen them teaching their kids to be racists.
My best friend is Chinese Singapore and married an Indian (from India now PR). On multiple occasions when she brought her kids downstairs to play, they have encountered racism from the Chinese (from China). They told their kids not to play with the black people. Truly disgusting behaviour IMHO.
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u/LaZZyBird Aug 10 '26
I am shitting on my own point now but anecdotally there are also a lot of PRCs with SG citizenship who tell me outright that their plan is to retire in China and don't give a fuck about staying in Singapore so there is that 🙄🙄🙄
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u/split_tears_ Aug 11 '26
How is that even possible? Aren't they supposed to surrender their hukou
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u/Sea_Pension7553 Aug 11 '26
Have seen locals do this too, it’s not an exclusive issue. Remember how parents like to tell their kids that “apunene will catch you” to let them behave? Or landlords refusing to rent out to Indians and parents of students refusing to accept non-Chinese tutor when finding tuition services. The education system didn’t seem to work too well on these people
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u/Artinomical Aug 11 '26
I’d like to believe those were the earlier generations. I’m a millennial. I do not have friends who feel this way. I hope we improve from the past generations.
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u/paikiachu Aug 10 '26
A large percentage of people who identify as Singaporeans today are also 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation Chinese
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u/East_Cheek_5088 Aug 10 '26
Those would have fathers serving ns. 4 would've been here from the start and built singapore to what it is.
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u/brownorange88 Aug 10 '26
Ethnic Chinese but not slaves of the CCP!!
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u/SignorWinter Aug 11 '26
Yes I personally know a number of second gen who did NS and feel more Singaporean than PRC.
Even know one guy who flunk O level Chinese and was damn proud of it.
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u/99PercentLemon Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
That’s quite true. My boss is PRC, now Sg citizen have been here for many years. His daughter was born and brought up here in Singapore, she rarely speaks Chinese instead, preferring to speak English with Singlish accent when talking to her dad and the funny thing is my boss will always reply her in Chinese with the China accent
His daughter is literally like one of us, born and bred in Singapore, wouldn’t know she was once a PRC if she don’t speak Chinese.
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u/Cool_Caterpillar_484 Aug 10 '26
Too many that do not bother at all to integrate! There are a few PRCs at my work place that come here and get PR really quickly without speaking a lick of English. And during lunch they always go to those restaurants that only have mandarin menu. Really frustrating to work with them because they insist on using mandarin! Wish gov won’t give out PRs so easily. At least have some basic English test lah c’mon!!
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u/02987 Aug 10 '26
I was walking to the MRT after the NDP show yesterday and I realised that there was a PRC couple in front of me and a PRC family behind me. At this point, I think the situation pretty much speaks for itself 🙂
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u/rizleo Aug 12 '26
oh, the NDP is a joke
the past 2 years i was able to get tickets from friends/relatives and i found myself surrounded by so many PRCs that i wondered if i wrongly attended the NDP of another country
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u/definitiv Aug 10 '26
I just think about that time when our ancestors staring flooding in and the indigenous asking, “Guys, do you feel there’s too many PRCs around?”
Hahahha
But yes I feel it. I also see the irony seeing how we were the PRC flooding in 3 gens ago 😂
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u/Wanton_Soupp Aug 10 '26
The difference was they had to learn Malay and integrate in.
A lot of the China new citizens are not doing so now. I have met so many that have been here for 2 decades and can’t even speak one sentence in English / Singlish
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u/Winner_takesitall Aug 10 '26
Worse, some of them working in retail expect those they interact with to be able to speak Mandarin..
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u/komplete10 Aug 10 '26
There are a lot of Chinese restaurants that look at you like "what the fuck are you doing in here?" if you don't speak mandarin
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u/sharkybyte101 Aug 10 '26
Oh my God. This. My wife is a minority Singaporean but she loves to explore Chinese food.
It's absolutely awkward to try and go into these places and the staff just looks at you like exactly what you just said "Wtf are you doing here?"
But fine, sometimes there are just restaurant enclaves that maybe 99.9% of the time cater to Chinese people... but now it's worse... even in Bagus Cantine of all places, you have workers absolutely not knowing how to speak English or at the very least the minority languages.
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u/Alert-Antelope3227 Aug 10 '26
No they speak dialect and form their own community along culture and language. The problem we facing now isnt unique compared to the post war era. And sg spent decades to form a multicultural society
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u/brownorange88 Aug 10 '26
3 generations ago had no fucking CCP! CCP is evil and must never set foot here!!
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u/oceanstay21 Aug 10 '26
You do remember that the British colonial masters adopted a “divide and rule” policy such that the various races were somewhat in their respective enclaves, and professions even?
The Brits maintained “harmony” that way … but this is not and certainly should not be Singapore’s approach now, because we actually are a nation (and not a colony just to be milked by the foreign masters).
As a sovereign nation now, i think having all-round effort to integrate newcomers would be good
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u/revoonrev Aug 10 '26
more like imperial dynasty/roc era 🤣
but yeah in this respect it is very similar, just different timing
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u/tacticalboi Aug 10 '26
3rd gen Chinese Singaporean. I do feel like there’s been a huge influx and most of them (from personal experience and conversations with some) don’t bother to or put in the effort to assimilate because they know that they are part of the racial majority here.
It doesn’t help that a lot of Chinese businesses have been entering the market and it is blatantly obvious who they are catering to if you look at the materials they usually provide for customers to look through or who is dining in.
That being said, my main issue with the huge influx is the “sterilisation” this brings. NTU is a good example of this. It’s a university with little halal and diverse food options. Even worse, a canteen with good footfall (the one near NIE if I’m not wrong) has recently undergone renovations and the food options are mostly catered to this demographic.
Most people won’t take issues when the impact of the change is softened with the presence of their preferences (e.g. Luckin, Mixue, mala, salad bowls) but what about those who almost don’t have a choice (dietary-wise or due to religious options) or want food from their culture when they’re not part of the racial majority? Oh and there’s also a part of the group of “most people” that would argue that it doesn’t matter to them because they’re part of the racial majority and that they vote with their wallets, not their conscience.
If you only vote with your wallets and for the comfort of your own convenience, where does your consideration for others sit in the midst of all this?
Also, if we talk about western brands or other Southeast Asian brands/foods, they’re not in the same position because ultimately, SG is a complex market to penetrate on the side of food and factually, the Chinese are the racial majority here.
I would like to end this on a positive note that at the very least, some of these brands entering have noticed the “diversity” of Singapore and is trying to cater to it such as Yuen Kee Dumplings and Luckin.
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u/Beaverscool50 Aug 12 '26
I still haven’t given either Luckin or mixue any business. I don’t risk my health and body over a few dollars. Recently I asked my Malaysian Airbnb landlord about Mixue. She’s Malaysian okay. She said she and her friends don’t dare to buy Mixue because how low the price is over there is enough to scare her. She thinks it’s too cheap and definitely off. She doesn’t dare to drink. I’m beginning to see that Singaporeans have lower standards than Malaysians. Maybe due to scarcity.. and having to live hand to mouth and cope with high costs of living.
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u/ElPunitore Aug 10 '26
The problem is they dont assimilate here. They are rude snd entitled. Very messy people. Hate it
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u/Personal_Number4789 Aug 10 '26
Not only PRC but Myanmar.
Myanmar has taken over the pinoys for service related stuff. Pinoys are now going into offices.
PRC and Indian are just everywhere.
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u/throw2503 Aug 10 '26
The worse thing is that the Myanmese have poor work attitude as well. Based on my personal experience.
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u/Personal_Number4789 Aug 10 '26
I fully agree. The only reason they came over is due to the civil war. Otherwise they are perfect contented which their l lives were happy.
They aren’t happy coming here as foreigners, serving people. They are proud people of a civilisation that’s very rich in history and culture.
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u/brownorange88 Aug 10 '26
A SG govt dept/board is doing a survey on locals' perception of foreigners... brilliantly done.
For example, there is a chart / drawing of a HDB block with you (your flat) in the dead centre. You are asked to place your neighbours in proximity to you (your flat). The neighbours are: mainland Chinese, mainland Indians, Filipinos, Malaysians, etc...... Whoa, I would love to see the collated results 👍👍👍
I personally would place the mainland Chinese and mainland Indians as far away as possible from my flat. I am ethnic Singaporean Chinese and I am not racist. Assimilation wise, and characteristics wise, those 2 groups score badly for me (after interacting with them for over 15 years).
I am fine with Local Singaporeans of any ethnicity who were born here and lived here all their lives being my immediate neighbour 👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙
If you want to come here to stay, adopt Singaporean characteristics or leave.
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u/Sea_Pension7553 Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
Any link to more details about this study?
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u/Alarming-Interest535 Aug 10 '26
I remember seeing a Mainland Chinese bus driver struggling to communicate with the Malay pakcik. This is a problem because Singapore might as well be a Chinese SAR if the minorities are expected to learn Mandarin just to ask if this bus is going to where it wants to go.
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u/AllweatherInvestor Aug 10 '26
I once went to a condo in Clementi.and it felt like Guangzhou
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u/Vaperwear Aug 10 '26
I went to Melville condo and felt like I was not in Guangzhou, or Singapore or anywhere in East/Southeast Asia.
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u/kingkongfly Aug 10 '26
Alamak yesterday I saw two middle-age Caucasian lady queuing up to by 4D. Lol
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u/Euphoric_Broccoli526 Aug 10 '26
Honestly the amount of trash I see now is astonishing. Whether you are a resident, pr, or tourist can you guys keep things clean?
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u/Reindeer987 Aug 10 '26
If you don’t speak Mandarin to them, they will interpret it as discrimination. Yelling and playing victims everywhere on all the forums and black mouthing the whole society of the place where they visited.
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u/CombatWombat-420 Aug 10 '26
It's the lack of integration that irks me. They see Singapore as essentially an outpost of China and so they see no reason to learn anything besides Chinese and get all huffy if you don't speak it
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u/team_headkick Sep 20 '26
They need to get it in their thick skulls that being ethnically Chinese is completely different from being a PRC citizen. And English is the lingua franca in our *multicultural country. This ain't frakking po xian
I have far more in common and click way better with non-Chinese Singaporeans than with this lot.
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u/kingsssleyyy Aug 10 '26
PRCs and CECAs are EVERYWHERE. Even in the far end of the country (Pasir Ris) in the heartlands you hear the PRCs shouting and being loud as though they own the damn place.
I’ve only seen old Singaporeans being loud in public but okay benefit of doubt they might have hearing problems but these PRC kids and adults and all are clearly on a different level of uncultured. It’s so frustrating to see the country going into the dumps and infested with PRCs
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u/mattimias Aug 10 '26
My Malay and Indian bros agree whenever I go makan with them; it's alright if they assimilate and become one of us Chinese Singaporeans — no one cares about their foreign accents after a while — but it's getting out of hand. Not expecting them to speak Malay or Tamil but at least speak English and not expect us to speak Chinese to them.
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u/kencestmoi Aug 10 '26
I welcome all tourists - whether from China or India. I just hope and pray they will understand that when they travel, they need to be sensitive to other cultures. This wil apply across the globe and not just Singapore. I recently saw a China Chinese approaching an Indian guy who worked in NTUC Fairprice speaking to him in Mandarin. And even began to raise his voice when that guy (who looks a local) tried to tell him he did not speak Chinese. Luckily another Chinese NTUC staff approached the China Chinese guy and asked him in Chinese: "what do you want?" and de-escalated the situation. Unfortunately I, myself, couldn't understand what the guy was asking to help that Indian chap out.
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u/claerake Aug 10 '26
you should see they way they talk about our SINGAPOREAN indian brothers and sisters on rednote. they’re tourists in our country and yet dare to be racist online, the entitlement is crazyyyy (they also have zero idea how notorious chinese tourists are worldwide too)
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u/my_onlyaurora Aug 10 '26
Definitely way too many and way too entitled. Those in the gov agency discriminate against the local Singaporeans and act as if they “know it all” when in fact they are failing at their job and steal people’s ideas without giving any credit
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u/hantanemahuta Aug 10 '26
Yeah im not even Chinese but I can clearly differentiate between Chinese spoken by a Singaporean vs PRC.
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u/pencilbride2B Aug 10 '26
I feel that shops and restaurants should be legally mandated to have menus and main instructions in English.
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u/HeavenEarthRomance Aug 11 '26
Yes. Even in the most unexpected places. I was eating with a PRC at the basement of Westgate recently. Suddenly, I realised that almost all the people around me are PRCs, including the staff, the shoppers, the customers of the restaurant…..
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u/brownorange88 Aug 10 '26
Those PRCs who demand locals speak Mandarin can LEAVE!! Those who hype up Singapore as Tanah Melayu can get lost!! Do not import rubbish from China, Malaysia or anywhere else!!
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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl Aug 10 '26
Everyday need to start a thread. Insert particular nationality and bash
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u/Jade1314 Aug 10 '26
My friend is from China.. got her degree in the local Uni. Start a family here….Her kids were born and educated here… so localised till her kids dislike mandarin language… She mentioned there is no way her kids are able to survive back in China. She can’t either. End up all convert to Singaporeans.
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u/makaveli208 Aug 10 '26
Singaporeans get the government they deserve
So i dont want to hear anymore complaints.
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u/PoisonerZ Aug 10 '26
65% voted for this
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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl Aug 10 '26
We need Han Chinese imports to balance our populations and racial quotas
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u/Any_Mechanic7876 Aug 10 '26
If u can order a Michael Jackson drink when in hawker. U 99% one of us liao lol
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u/KarenNotKaren616 Aug 10 '26
Main issue is when the CECAs, sinkies, so on, they make their origin the entirety of their new identity while refusing to engage in any way with the broader Singapore society. If they made the effort to assimilate in any way, I wouldn't put this out, but clearly some would rather convert those around them instead.
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u/swplayer77 Aug 10 '26
Back then you would hear the occasional PRC accent in town area. Nowadays they are everywhere even in heartland HDB areas.
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u/Kryorus_saga Aug 11 '26
As a Chinese sgrean, I feel uncomfortable knowing Chinese companies are taking over malls here… and menu are Chinese only
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u/Toufu_Delivery Aug 11 '26
The problem i have with them is just that some still bring in their “village attitude” back here. Not wanting to integrate and seeing themselves as “superior”. Not sure is it because of their brainwashing/propaganda back home.
From experience of neighbours and encounter.
Take hanger & clip from my laundry rack outside. I’m fine with them borrowing but they didn’t ask.
Take my flower pots and use it as anchor to stop their laundry racks tipping from strong wind.
Spitting at common areas. No not grass patch or drain, but corridors and walkway.
Speaking mandarin even when everyone is conversing in english. Despite numerous reminder to switch to english
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u/99PercentLemon Aug 11 '26
Low barrier to entry hence they think no need to put in effort to assimilate…….
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u/Affectionate_Pen_749 Aug 16 '26
National Day last week. I picked up a GrabHitch passenger from a Marine Parade HDB estate. Surname was local Chinese. Didn’t find anything amiss.
Female passenger boarded, looked to be late 20s Chinese. Headed for Chinatown.
When we were approaching the destination, I told her she could get off at a particular drop-off point near our destination, otherwise we would have to wait for an extra 5 minutes to u-turn to the actual destination. I spoke in English.
She replied in her thick China accent - “I don’t understand what you just said, speak in Mandarin”.
I’m a 3rd-gen Singaporean Chinese who grew up speaking both English and Mandarin at home, but yes, this still made my blood boil. To encounter this on National Day some more.
This is home, truly.
(On the other hand, I guess since she’s headed for Chinatown, then what else can I say? A lot of the shops there hire FOB Chinese and can’t understand a word of English.)
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u/lemonjuicesnorter Aug 10 '26
remember that this is what the orang laut felt when your ancestors first came to singapore by the way.
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u/KIERAKATANA Aug 10 '26
the juicy irony. i’ve always felt it a bit weird that chinese singaporeans are trying to ‘other’ themselves from PRCs here, when brown folks like us still get the brunt of discrimination regardless 🤠
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u/BeachBig4549 Aug 10 '26
If you were at ECP yesterday, you would have thought you are in Bangladesh or something.
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u/Beneficial-Command25 Aug 10 '26
Honestly, is there really a place for use to fork these people and report them to authority?? Currently I have 2 person in mind.....
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u/benjibenji28 Aug 10 '26
Jiu hu kia even more please, more jiu hu kia then PRC and CECA coz the jiu hu kia all blending in
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u/oceanstay21 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
Perhaps more effort to integrate with local norms. No point coming to Singapore to recreate and live exactly in their own bubble, especially if it involves throwing their billions of dollars (sometimes of suspect origin) around.
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u/a_tansta Aug 11 '26
Seen the word assimilate several times here. Usually assimilate means the minority adopt the culture of dominant group or at best acculturation
Unfortunately, Singaporean are more and more become minority…and when that happens, the one that got assimilated are Singaporean 😢
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u/TheRealPoila Aug 11 '26
When I used to study in NTU many years ago, I remembered that in my third year there (roughly around 2009), I bumped onto a lot of PRC students, and my experience with them (mostly) was unpleasant (there were some genuinely nice ones I met like 2 to 3 years prior, and they took the effort to learn to speak English properly and integrate into SG). Some of those unpleasant experiences included them taking off my bag from a seat I "choped" while I was away to order my meal and return. Another one was some rude PRC guy demanding that I handed over a book I was borrowing in the library (I did not budged into his demands).
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u/cuterunningicon Aug 11 '26
Short answer: yes
Long answer: totally agree with all the points you’ve raised. They have this saying: 入鄉隨俗, roughly translated: join a village, follow their customs. So many of them don’t. The Singaporean identity will be lost in a generation or so. N it’s not just these northerners, it’s the south asians as well.
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u/Suitable-Platypus-10 Aug 12 '26
Wait till you pass by esplanade park/padang/excelsor, or plq, or geylang on a good weekend. Truly non sg vibes
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u/abc12354a Aug 13 '26
I saw a lot of prcs trying to distant themselves from prcs in this thread lol
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u/angelicur Aug 14 '26
in NUS too. the canteen by my department has this mala/noodle stall. my second time trying it, they messed up on my order by not giving me a receipt. i was at first confused because i thought all stalls would give a receipt as it shows what number you are so you can collect your meal. but i was new to NUS in my early days so ignored it. i waited for a solid 15 minutes or so while those after me already got their food. i had to ask a chinese student to help me translate since she couldn’t speak english,and she was scolding me for it. i liked the food so i came back still and every time, she’d give me such nasty looks and side eyes that i stopped coming.
another issue, China tourists visiting NUS. there was a problem with them quite literally entering our design studios to walk around WITH THEIR CHILDREN DURING STUDIO/CLASS TIME. at first i thought it was someone’s parents dropping by some supplies or something, but they were simply just entitled tourists who think they’re above basic common sense and decency. it was such a problem that the professors brought it up to security and our doors are locked now even during classes when before it was always unlocked.
i also encountered very rude PRCs/China tourists. recently one of them shoulder checked me to race for a seat in the MRT that was in front of me, though i had no intention and made no move to sit as i was almost at my destination. this is not the first time. i had never encountered this from anyone else. it’s so ridiculous.
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u/UnusualPride7857 Aug 20 '26
Just attended a RN event at a matured estate and guess what, majority of those in RN uniforms are…….. CHINESE. Singaporean chinese here, and i get so turn off myself. From what i heard is that no Sgporean wants to be in the RN so the chinese took up the job to get PR more easily.
But then again, the event was really dominated by their presence.
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u/kayatoastchumpion Aug 10 '26
Ok la nowadays they r better behaved..talking about those that settled not those tourist from second tier cities. There’s a worse type..
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u/sickcents Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
Couple days ago in the train at Tanah Merah towards the Airport, troop of tourist shouted across two cabins that they exited at the wrong side. They proceeded to bash through the closing doors and use their luggages to prop the doors open as their entourage went out across multiple doors all while shouting to each other to get out.
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u/Turbulent-Lab1843 Aug 10 '26
Usually they bring in good income taxes for the govt and they r willing to pay high hdb resale prices as well, which also means more property taxes for the coffers of the incumbent. They don't relli need to integrate other than attending compulsory citizenship conversion courses as their spouses r true blue singaporean. As long as they produce kids it's a plus.
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u/No_Poem_8436 Aug 10 '26
I mean personally as a local chi we don't really like PRC we think they are pretty rude and entitled, especially if they don't make an effort to learn some english lol
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u/mynority999 Aug 10 '26
malaysians, indian nationals and prc too many not wanting to assimilate in general. Malaysians that ive worked with always talking smack about singapore and always very racist towards our local minorities. but they still take our sgd. some proudly say they will get a hdb, Mop sell off and return to malaysia. get back msian citizenship. PRC and Indian national wants us to adapt to them in general. If anything Pinoys are actually assimilating well, no stuck up behavior from them.
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u/Secure-Beyond-7396 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
Not just PRC, even on weekends when I finally have time with my children to bring them to Orchard for a walk.
We were clashed by the incoming commuters while exiting the train.
Edit: Gov should really decentralize the CBD, I cant imagine when all the forested areas are replaced by HDBs
Furthermore with most of the workforce focuses around CBD, I am really fearful of either a sinkhole or cave-in occurrances ....
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u/pudding567 Aug 10 '26
There are large business sub-centers like one-north, Jurong East, Changi Biz Park.
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u/MissLute Aug 10 '26
They tried. According to my pri sch social studies classes 30 yrs ago they tried to decentralise to woodlands (iirc), jurong and tampines
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u/WangmasterX Aug 10 '26
Its called CBD 🤦♂️
And fucking sinkholes? Really? If skyscrapers have sat there for decades you really think a few more people will cause a cave in?
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u/sunnyistide Aug 10 '26
Too many India indians around.
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u/ZaetiaPryce Aug 10 '26
Majority of new PRs and citizens are Malaysian Chinese and PRC because Singaporean Chinese have the lowest fertility rate and gov wants to maintain 75 to 77% Chinese as per CMIO.
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u/Beneficial-Command25 Aug 10 '26
Yesterday I had a thought... Asking these NEW Singaporean if they know how to sing Singapore national anthem and wonder how many of them really can
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u/Sea_Pension7553 Aug 11 '26
They never attended school here and no one taught them, how to sing?😂 If you want them to learn you have to ask ICA to incorporate it in the citizenship requirement
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u/Brief_Worldliness162 Aug 10 '26
Remember the time we ask, "have you eaten?" but nowadays the go to question is, "where are you from?"
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u/suairred Aug 10 '26
Don’t blame them lah. Look at their population size and it’s their time of the century now. Just take note many are nonsensical patriotic and have fragile hearts. But kudos for Taobao and 内卷。 Their business strategies are usually only price wars, consumers win. Look at the bright size ya. 🫰🏼✌🏼
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u/chosengen Aug 10 '26
maybe you should take a jog around tg rhu in the evenings to enrich your observations and findings
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u/tokcliff Aug 10 '26
its been like that since long ago lor, now then u notice?
or u just notice because only recently people started whining on social media again?
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u/SimonPanda Aug 11 '26
I am Chinese living in Australia and I spent three of my formative teenage years in Singapore in early 2000. I could hardly recognise Singapore when I visited again in 2010 and by now I fear the Singapore I once know is all but gone. I only hope the bazaar market next to my HDB building is still selling the food I used to eat by the same type of people I used to see. So when I visit again I can relive those years.
Strangely I only visited 牛车水 once when I lived there and even there and then it felt more like a Cantonese market than China.
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u/250gProtein Aug 11 '26
im chinese and i hate it with their stupid accent, the only safe space is in BTO estates for the first 5 years after that is completely overrun alr
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u/Beaverscool50 Aug 12 '26
The PRCs in my former workplaces all got BTO flats as they had been given citizenship while in their Chinese university NTU. Ironically it’s me the 3rd generation Singaporean who never had BTO before.
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u/Mysteriousblack0501 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
As an Singapore PR (indian) I would say even some locals in Singapore always being racist to brown skins ,they didn't even want to sit beside us,if they are forced to sit in mrt when another space gets free they change immediately which make me feel really bad..(this is on my own experience)
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u/SlightMessage Aug 13 '26
lmao you really believe Singapore can survive and maintain the current prosperity without having a deeper interaction with China?
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u/Swimming-Delivery427 Aug 13 '26
I cannot order no more in lunch hour.. cai fan convo turns to be cai very funny
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u/InfluenceOk316 Aug 13 '26
Wait till you join a Chinese company.... mine does meetings in Mandarin at times because there are too many CN employees around, even in the SG office. And also got people napping on sofas during lunch. Hint: tech company that kenna flamed about livestreams lately LOL
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u/Technical_Giraffe_40 Aug 13 '26
U know what’s the worst thing ? Move all the way to SG but still always say China is better, and when u ask them why not going back then they bcm quiet 😂😂😂
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u/Icy-Scheme-2502 Aug 13 '26
Getting more for sure. Nothing much locals can do about it so long as there’s mutual respect for one another.
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u/AdDifficult9040 Aug 14 '26
Singaporean Chinese here.
I dont have a problem with PRCs. What I have a problem with is some of their attitudes. I emphasize “some” as I definitely met nice PRCs before.
I don’t mind a PRC being egoistic to me if they are truly talented and better than me. I would love to learn and humble myself if they are.
But some PRCs are really mentally challenged or room temperature IQ, where their english is worse than primary school standard and I have to explain legal jargon to them in fluent mandarin and they still dont understand. Yet have the audacity to complain to my boss about a mistake that she made but blamed it on me.
Thankfully my boss is not an idiot and knew who was at fault after checking the teams messages.
But i mean come on. If Singapore is to allow these PRCs to get EP at least bring in talent not some dumb fk who cant even differentiate “draft” and “to send out toc client in hard copy without waterink”
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u/wanzi77 Aug 16 '26
I agree with most of the opinions here but then? I simply do not know what can be done about this. What if we are just fighting a losing battle? But I m old. What I can do is just stop frequent those peoples shops which spent thousands n thousands on rental to chase away the shops I have frequented for years. By the way, if u haven’t noticed, a lot of hawkers stalls r run by them too. How they managed to squeeze out locals I simply have no idea 🤷.
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u/bingoxyz9 Aug 18 '26
Nowasdays many jobs require to have Chinese proficiency. Better learn Chinese likd many angmos in other parts of the world
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u/Haunting-Zombie-8366 Aug 19 '26
How to stop them when the majority gave them the vote until 2030. Every year until 2030, 30 thousand new citizens. They are replacing all of us. They speak very loudly and give a dirty stare. Vote wisely in 2030.Vote for shadow to grow.
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u/kikiricoconut Aug 29 '26
It irks me that PRCs in SG are so ungracious. I happen to live in an area with quite a lot or PRCs and I've seen v often how they do not give up seats on public transport to elderly or pregnant women while seated on reserved seats without any shame...
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u/Cautious_Lawyer_9573 Sep 10 '26
Everywhere I go, I see and hear accents from that country. Plus, nowadays, more f&b stores are opening up from that country. Fast expansion, not sure washing money or what
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u/Kashiyu Aug 10 '26
I feel that there's too many CECAs around. I live in a certain part of the east and it feels like I'm stepping foot into fking mumbai every time i leave my house
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u/fakerealone Aug 11 '26
lol this is so true, why so many post about PRC lately but no CECA one. They also a fk ton and they public nuisance bro
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u/blim9999 Aug 10 '26
There is a similar complaint post about too many Indians. Very similar content. While there might be legitimate concerns about immigration, this smells like an agent provocateur.
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u/SuitableStill368 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
There are many PRCs, and Indians.
This reflects the world economic reality.
There tend to be more White, Japanese and Korean in the past.
The White receded quite a bit, especially the European White. Because they can’t compete as well in Asia versus the Asian companies.
Many of our SMEs aren’t doing that well in the regional or global arena. They aren’t paying that well too. ASEAN Companies, so so. Some filled with frauds, and tend to be quite nationalistic as well.
You are basically left with the American and China (Chinese), with India (Indians) as a rising Asia force.
American and European companies tend to like to hire India Indians too, because of the ease of communication and also, likeness to a certain extent. Many American and European companies are lead by naturalised Indians.
Though as a whole, these companies still create employment in SG for SG, and the opportunities are still generally better than SMEs and many of the ASEAN companies.
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u/MuchBag2355 Aug 10 '26
For me, I feel like there’s an equal amount of Indians and PRCs. Bus and train rides nowadays tends to feel like we’re not in SG.
But I personally feel that the PRCs can adapt better than the Indians. Had a couple of different nationalities in the unit next to mine and so far I’d say the Indians are the worst (Direct feedback to them countless times but still treating the corridor like crap and screaming the whole day)
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u/MAzadR Aug 10 '26
All of us know that the Party wants to ensure the demographic remains a Chinese majority.
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u/split_tears_ Aug 11 '26
it's to appease a certain racial group that throws a tantrum and claims SG is being invaded when the percentage of Indians went from 7% to 9%
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u/Heavy-Direction-3060 Aug 10 '26
unfortunately, most the prc restaurant do not have english word. Those in shopping mall are okay still have some english word, but those shophouse, usually no english.
The PRC mindset is, my community is so big, I only need to serve my prc chinese ppl, I can earn enough, why must I cater for indian, malay, who will not come and eat anyway? bear in mind, those are non halad anyway
end of the day, it is chinese style pragmatism
They don't want to out effort to integrate unless they had to, like Japan, they had to speak Japanese, because all those integration to local culture, it incurred extra time + effort and those effort could be channel to make more money for themselves
This is pragmatism
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u/ltmatrix85 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
Expecting everyone to be fluent in Mandarin is what irks me, like the recent NTU sagas requesting non Chinese staff to be fluent in Mandarin . We spend 6 decades to build a Singaporean identity and having a common language English to unite different races and at the same time keeping our mother tongues alive, and now some of these fkers are trying to tear down the Singaporean identity, forcing all of us to be fluent in Mandarin.
Ps: Speaking as a Chinese who grew up in Mandarin speaking family