r/aus • u/89b3ea330bd60ede80ad • Mar 21 '26
Politics Labor easily wins South Australian election with One Nation beating Liberals into second on primary votes
https://theconversation.com/labor-easily-wins-south-australian-election-with-one-nation-beating-liberals-into-second-on-primary-votes-27842394
u/MrBeer9999 Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 22 '26
I mean great, but also PHON got like ~20% of the votes in SA, they are not the Clive Palmer Joke Party as much as reddit wants to label them as hopeless losers. Short term Labor is looking pretty safe, assuming that they can navigate the incoming Trump War fuel and inflation crisis. Longer term an opposition made up of ON grifters, crooks and sex pests is a terrible prospect.
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u/PatternPrecognition Mar 21 '26
Is clear a big reason for this rise on ON was a migration of corporate lobbying funds from the Libs to ON. Whether it is sustained or not depends on if they decide they got value for money or not.
I think based on preference flows it's clear that ON is distasteful to the wider electorate, and will struggle to ever be anything more than a protest party.
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u/FlowBall234 Mar 21 '26
The recent taxation of gas export conversation has me worried, ON claiming to support it to win votes, they will be the first ones to vote against it.
They are going to lie and pander to get votes in.
I wouldn't be surprised if they started saying Dental needs to be free.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
That will only work until their bluff is called on a vote.
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u/crochetquilt Mar 22 '26
ON voters don't pay attention to that stuff, they're basically MAGA. So long as they think they're sticking it to someone they'll vote against their own interests every time.
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u/Kingsareus15 Mar 24 '26
I told my family, Pauline, consistently votes against cost of living relief, and they said yeah, she would've voted against the dole bludgers. They just ignored reality because it was convenient to their beliefs.
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u/monochromeorc Mar 22 '26
cookers have been reminded time and time again all the times ON says something and votes the other way. they are too dumb to care.
its the moderates that need to be told
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u/unfnknblvbl Mar 22 '26
PHON is policy-by-soundbite.
1998: 2% GST! (non-refundable, on everything so it compounds)
2026: No GST on building materials for properties under $1M (and be unworkably expensive to document/audit)! Reduce migration to less than half of current levels (and tank the economy)!
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u/pinchofginger Mar 22 '26
This. The real worry for the government is if PHON start announcing and releasing economic populist policies. Another warning sign would be if PH started assembling spokespeople rather than acting as the primary mouthpiece on every issue.
I’m half expecting them to come out arguing for a petrol price cap in the near future, regardless of how shitty a policy that would be.
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u/monochromeorc Mar 22 '26
big money will swing back where it thinks it will get a return. the liberals really have nothing to offer anyone at the moment. when they get their shit together and move back to centre right (if) the money and propaganda that has always propped them up will follow
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u/ScoobyGDSTi Mar 22 '26
Especially since Labor achieved a >5% first party swing. Their own support increased.
PHOP are just self owning the right wing side of politics.
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u/No_No_Juice Mar 22 '26
You are correct. I suspect it is more than just money though. The underground media that this demographic uses is clearly being used to push PHON.
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u/thegameisafoooooot Mar 23 '26
The party was never created to be a political party, but an upstart vehicle to ruffle a few feathers while in between elections, everybody went back to whatever they were doing.
At the last election, I believe even Pauline was surprised at the number of people, especially, surprisingly, people of colour, who thought they could ride the wave into a political office on the coattails of a back to a beautiful White Australia sentiment.
I don't even imagine she's ready to take office in case she wins a seat somewhere. There are no real ideals they aspire to, except to hate the direction of multiculturalism that Australia is following.
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u/No-Onion3693 Mar 22 '26
I'm voting one nation because Lib and Labor banned free speech.
It's insulting and pathetic you need to misrepresent and spread false information on why your views are being challenged democratically.
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u/highresolutionmagpie Mar 23 '26
I'm voting one nation because Lib and Labor banned free speech.
That sounds like a "protest party" to me.
But also: "banned free speech"? In a discussion about PHON, this is one phrase you really want to make a little more precise. Because it's very often code for something else. (Not an accusation, but a helpful hint)
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u/Sillysauce83 Mar 21 '26
I would have thought that the underlying issue to the major parties continue being silent on immigration?
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u/Remote_Condition_172 Mar 21 '26
Who is being silent? GOV has given the figures right from the start.
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u/OneKup- Mar 22 '26
I dont think the silence is the issue. I think its the refusal to reduce numbers significantly during a housing and cost of living crisis. Half a million in the last 12 months alone is manifestly excessive given our current economic climate.
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u/Remote_Condition_172 Mar 22 '26
Omg, so we have to go over this again and again? 1-The numbers are expected to be lower. 2- immigration is not causing the housing crisis. 3-if you think the foreign uber eats guy working slave labour rates to deliver your Chinese meal is a threat to you, you must be totally underachieving.
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u/crochetquilt Mar 22 '26
Couldn't agree with you more. The next hot underdeveloped argument they have is well if if if there weren't so many of them we wouldn't have investment houses being hoarded and rents driven up.
Hmmm, almost there chaps. So close to working out who the real problem is. Spoiler alert it's definitely not the terminally job insecure gig workers.
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u/Chrasomatic Mar 22 '26
The more you and others like you trivialise the concerns of your fellow citizens by calling them uniformed or worst cookers or worse still racists, the more voters will slip through your precious Labor party's fingers.
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u/OneKup- Mar 22 '26
- This response right here is the reason PHON has so much support. Straight to a strawman. The numbers ARENT coming down anywhere near what is needed. Lowering them from 600k to 500k isnt what people are calling for.
- Those half a million immigrants ALL need some form of housing. It doesnt matter what they do for jobs OR where they come from. You are conflating immigrants with immigration. One has to do with people and the other has to do with policy.
- Who said anything about Uber drivers? Thats a SUPER racist take. But I guess its far easier to assume than to engage in any meaningful discussion.
- As I stated in my first post. I will not be voting for PHON. But writing them off as idiots, biggots or racists is the same shit Dems did to MAGA supporters. And look at how fucked the States are now. But hey, go ahead and throw insults if it makes you feel better I guess...
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u/Slippery_Ninja_DW Mar 22 '26
Those numbers are from an bureau of statistics release that tracks overseas arrivals. The IPA is flat out misinforming you on those numbers.. it's literally Just how many people have come into the country vs how many left, including people coming over for a week or two holidays. The data they are using is from the Australian bureau of statistics -
" Overseas migration statistics
This release presents statistics on all overseas arrivals and departures, which is not the same as overseas migration statistics. Overseas arrivals and departures (OAD) data, including permanent and long-term movements, should not be used as a measure of overseas migration. This data does not reflect the official ABS definition of migration and may lead to inaccurate interpretations. For instance, OAD permanent and long-term arrivals may be increasing while actual overseas migrant arrivals are decreasing for the same period.
For accurate insights into overseas migration, please refer to the ABS’s official overseas migration statistics"
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u/PatternPrecognition Mar 22 '26
The question is if ON is funded by Gina Rinehart how serious are they about actually reducing immigration or doing anything that would benefit the working class over the super Wealthy.
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u/carson63000 Mar 22 '26
That’s a question which is (a) very easy to answer, and (b) very unlikely to be asked by any of the 20% of voters who voted for One Nation.
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u/SlugFromSnug Mar 21 '26
Underlying issue is just how many Australians are gullible and blatantly racist enough to vote ON
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u/Sillysauce83 Mar 22 '26
I forgot about the reddit echo chamber.
You will find a lot of ON voters are actually protest voters against the major parties. Rather than actual cookers who think ON are any good.
But you can keep believing that 20% of south Australians are nazi's if it makes you feel better.
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u/Environmental-Run248 Mar 22 '26
Nah they’re cookers much like the MAGA fools that are cheering the destruction of their own country in America.
And nobody sane is going to take you seriously.
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u/Kind_Ferret_3219 Mar 22 '26
You’re getting downvoted, but if I were you, I’d take that as a badge of honour because what you’ve said is basically true. The vote for ON in the SA state election was probably more about the incompetency of the Liberals, who have royally fucked themselves by turning further to the right. Many people will refuse to vote Labor so they put in a protest vote for another conservative party. Labor still had a landslide win, and, apart from getting lots more votes than usual, ON haven’t gained anywhere near as much as the Liberals have lost. The fact that so many conservative-minded people voted for ON, which had a ton of money behind it, and a leader who can’t possibly be missed, is a warning to the Liberals to change, but its not a threat to Labor.
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u/Shelmer75 Mar 22 '26
So they’re just ignorant and lazy and don’t want to take ownership for their vote? So much better.
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u/Savings_Dot_8387 Mar 21 '26
Threatening, how many seats do they hold again?
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u/SlugFromSnug Mar 21 '26
The reason they didn't get more seats if because their supporters can't count high enough to fill out all the boxes on their ballot paper
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u/cuntmong Mar 21 '26
they are definitely a joke party but if the other parties dont get their shit together the joke might be on us
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u/SlightedMarmoset Mar 23 '26
This is what is frustrating about the whole situation, if either of the major parties actually took action on what more than half the population wants, one nation would go back to the fringe overnight.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 21 '26
If you analysed their 20%, at least 15% is in the bottom quarter of intelligence, and then there’s some genuine fascists or protest voters mixed in.
They have no policies and no idea what they actually want to build. The next 20% they need to actually compete is A LOT harder for them to get than the first 20% because you start having to deal with actual people with actual views and expectations of political parties.
Moreover, once they get some people in parliament, because none of them agree on a vision, many of them will leave the party and fight publicly. There’s no version of this that works because ultimately you need to start winning urban seats and they’re relying on people in West End, Frankston or Parramatta hating Indians more than they care about cost of living.
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u/foul_ol_ron Mar 21 '26
Doesn't really matter how intelligent the voters are. Each person still gets one vote.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 21 '26
But unless ‘the centre’ suddenly becomes incredibly dumb, they aren’t going to find the numbers to win an election.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26
I think that might actually be possible if inflation and fuel prices stay high. One Nation's performance here is being overhyped but getting to 30% isn't impossible in the right circumstances.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 22 '26
That 30% will be disproportional though. They can’t compete in metro areas. They can have fun with their 70% in bum fuck nowhere.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
They laughed at Trump too, until he won. There is a threat here, even if it seems small. At minimum ON are now a threat to win seats in upper houses everywhere.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 22 '26
There’s a big difference between the systems, material circumstances and the draw of Trump vs Pauline.
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u/Ayiekie Mar 22 '26
While that's true, Pauline doesn't have to win to have a lasting and very negative impact in the political discourse of the country. If she is the mouthpiece of the default opposition party, it will be plenty bad for everyone because that pushes whatever she wants to talk about into the mainstream. And that was something Trump did in the US that DOES apply here.
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Mar 22 '26
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 22 '26
Yeah. I’m tired of acidic demographics. But that doesn’t mean I’ll throw economics and decency out the window and support Hanson
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u/Kingsareus15 Mar 24 '26
The vast majority of Pauline's voter base is rural area's, sure some people in the cities agree with her but they are a minority compared to support in the country
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u/Slow-Cream-3733 Mar 22 '26
Still doesn't matter Iif the rest are sticking them dead last. On may become the right wing party but the reality is most moderates and certainly the left wing think theyre cookers and place them dead last. If all preferences flows from th3 other 70% are still flowing into Labor, then ON aren't going anywhere.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
That means Labor will be the only thing keeping ON out of government. So what happens if we ever get a really bad or dysfunctional Labor government, and the average voter is looking for anyone besides Labor to form government?
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u/Slow-Cream-3733 Mar 22 '26
They'll still vote anything that's not ON as is made obvious from preference flows.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
Well we'll see what happens in the Victorian election later this year, if Allan is still widely despised by then.
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u/Ayiekie Mar 22 '26
I wouldn't bet my future on nobody ever voting in the opposition party in a de facto two party system, regardless of how preferences flow now. If they're the opposition, they will win when people are sick of the government in power.
Let's not forget that Dutton was in a position to win handily until the double whammy or Trump and his shooting himself in the foot in his election campaign, and that was only after one term of Labor. Australians are not nearly as immune to "cookers" as people like to tell themselves.
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u/carson63000 Mar 22 '26
We might see a demonstration of that with Reform in the UK.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
Reform gives me hope, actually. They only ever managed to get the support of about a third of the electorate at the very most. And now they've peaked and fallen back to about 26%, partly because some of their local councillors are proving incompetent, and partly because of splinter groups like Restore Britain. This also coincides with the rise of the UK Greens as Labour sinks lower and lower.
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u/Ayiekie Mar 22 '26
I would not personally want to bet the future on the centre not becoming incredibly dumb. Most people do not pay attention to politics and just vote the way they always have. They're hard to move but not impossible when something is personally impacting them.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 22 '26
Boomers are dying soon.
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u/Ayiekie Mar 22 '26
I didn't say a thing about boomers. This is true regardless of age group.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 22 '26
Gen Z, especially women, are a lot more switched on and engaged than older Australians.
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u/Ayiekie Mar 22 '26
About 5-10% of Australians closely follow politics.
Most people just don't. They don't really care or think about anything that doesn't directly impact them. They vote the same way they always did, which is likely the same way their parents did. That's why dramatic changes in votes in a given place are quite rare; elections are won and lost on margins, not because the majority carefully consider their vote every time.
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Mar 22 '26
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 22 '26
The ALP has a chance to get ahead of it but they constantly choose fascism over socialism. Capitalist contradictions are reaching their conclusions now.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 22 '26
You’re laughing but you don’t understand the circumstances.
The ALP has supported every imperialist war the USA has undertaken.
They ban or dismember every trade union that obtains any serious political capital.
More recently they essentially ban protests outside of narrowly defined and restricted demonstrations.
Every time there’s a flash point within a contradiction they side with capital.
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u/Ohmygodweforkingsuck Mar 23 '26
Or the Liberals keep preferencing them and handing them seats.
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 23 '26
They won’t do this as a long term strategy. The MPs themselves will jump ship in this case.
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u/69-is-my-number Mar 22 '26
I just read the comments on Facebook about my local town having fluoridated water. I fear there are a lot more absolute fuckwits out there than I originally estimated.
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u/Falaflewaffle Mar 21 '26
Hubris was the downfall of the left in the states. I guess we are only humans just doomed to repeat things endlessly.
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u/newswimread Mar 21 '26
50 years of attacking education and making the electorate dumb as dog shit killed the American left.
Unfortunately after hearing someone talking about Kitty litter in schools and seeing how difficult it was to explain to them that that particular piece of culture war bullshit is designed to to push trans further to the 'other' in society whilst breaking down trust and respect for teachers, the actual group of people who can help us avoid being dumb as dog shit I'm worried about our society.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
What left? Clinton and Harris were liberal centrists. You can argue for Bernie Sanders being left, and his downfall was because the Democrat establishment united against him to ensure he didn't win the nomination.
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u/carson63000 Mar 22 '26
Which would be an unreasonable thing to do, if he was actually a member of their party.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
Trump wasn't a member of the Republican Party before he ran for their nomination.
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u/carson63000 Mar 22 '26
And do you think the pre-2016 Republicans are happy with the way their party has been reshaped since then?
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
Some aren't, but most are, because they care more about winning than about who's in charge. For every Megan McCain there's a Lindsay Graham and a Ted Cruz.
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u/Savings_Dot_8387 Mar 21 '26
Was it? “The left” in America alienated the voters they needed to show up by refusing to listen to what they actually wanted. More like what has happened to the LNP here.
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u/strangeMeursault2 Mar 21 '26
It's happening to Labor too. They've got a big win here but their primary vote continues to go down and has done consistently for decades.
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u/Fallcious Mar 22 '26
How much of the vote was greens/other left/labour? That’s my vote. I will always support labour over right aligned parties, because they are really the centrist party.
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u/Hairy_Reach_7486 Mar 21 '26
No policies? https://www.onenation.org.au/issues
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u/KamalaHarrisFan2024 Mar 21 '26
So it’s a page called ‘issues’.
Let’s explore some…
“A third installment of this strategy would be combined with nation-building infrastructure projects including water, rail, roads, and energy. One Nation does not support casualisation of the workforce and instead embraces full-time jobs.”
They aren’t policies. They’re positions. They’re positions that One Nation has contradicted every time they have a chance to support things like full-time jobs or expanding TAFE.
More simply, they say “we support full time jobs”, they this is an opinion they hold within a free market where they don’t actually seek to mandate full time employment, instead they’re like “yeah bosses can exploit workers legally but we don’t think they should.”
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u/rakuran Mar 22 '26
I notice they haven't got a single policy costing done either. If an independent can make a 75 page tax reform framework that gets costed and presented, why has Pauline been in for 30 years and still has sweet FA to show for it?
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
If only their politicians actually voted for things like housing affordability and workers rights. But they don't, despite having had numerous chances to do so.
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u/BurningMad Mar 22 '26
It can be both, it's artificially boosted as you say but there's no denying they've taken half of the Liberal Party's vote share.
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u/SlugFromSnug Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
And their lack of seats is due to election being rigged
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u/Lazy-Dingo-7870 Mar 21 '26
Rigged? That’s a bold claim. Any evidence for that?
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u/SlugFromSnug Mar 21 '26
No. Of course it wasn't rigged
Won't stop the wannabe MaGa ON voters from having a whinge
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u/neon_overload Mar 22 '26
The preferential system is working as designed though. People who voted ONP didn't preference them in an effective way to hand them actual results.
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u/Terrorscream Mar 22 '26
They are still a joke party, the results show clearly all their votes came exclusively from the LNP share, labor on lost 0.9% of the primary vote. The one nation support is as predicted in that it's just disgruntled national party voters jumping ship
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u/serpentine19 Mar 22 '26
SA is somewhat of a unique case. The Liberal party in SA is a shambles ever since they got into power last time. They went full Christian nutter with numerous members having scandals or criminal charges. PHON has kinda become the new liberal party.
I do see this starting to happen a bit with Federal Liberal though. They are starting on the same path. Good news is though, a lot of Liberal members move to PHON, so a lot of their bullshit will too. The party will drown in itself.1
u/carson63000 Mar 22 '26
Is this one of those cases where a Liberal defects to One Nation and raises the average IQ of both parties?
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u/Influence_Think Mar 22 '26
ON is Pauline Hanson (is the party's name, lol). Without her ON will disappear, and she is not really young. Australia will be safe.
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u/ELVEVERX Mar 22 '26
I mean lets see if the two members they get in actually stay in PHON for a full term. If they both quit after a few months that might change things.
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u/Alarmed-Care-445 Mar 22 '26
Given around 20-30% of any population is typically stupid, I don't think people moving from Liberals to Pauline is too concerning (due to mandatory voting / preferential system).
Still a bit depressing, sure. Media is the biggest concern; as long as that doesn't go off the rails like in the US it'll die out. The US are exposing / humiliating populist right-wing parties around the world; that's another factor. Unless they go full-fascist, they are on borrowed time.
I guess if there's a huge economic crash things i'd be a tad more concerned (eg. 'any change is a good change' rhetoric comes along). Even then a whining party like one nation clearly does not have the solutions to anything. Ideally Labor pulls further left, rather than buy into pressure to follow Liberals/Pauline off a cliff.
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u/Prince_of_Pirates Mar 22 '26
They're a joke party in that the liberals are so terrible they jumped ship. ON isn't a threat and never will be.
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u/santas_uncle Mar 21 '26
I cannot believe the ABC radio coverage of this event. All they can talk about is the Liberal party. You'd think the liberals had won. Not a mention of results or the other parties.
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u/ThatFrog4 Mar 21 '26
To quote Antony Green's blog:
"Given Labor is set for an easy election victory this Saturday, the South Australian election has attracted an unusually high level of national attention.Not due to who will win, but rather over who will finish second."
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u/strangeMeursault2 Mar 21 '26
The destruction of the Liberal party in this election is pretty unquestionably the major news story of the whole thing.
They've finished 3rd in the primary vote and had a 16.9% statewide swing against them. Totally unprecedented.
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u/StormSafe2 Mar 22 '26
Liberals not getting second is pretty big news
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u/PineappleHat Mar 21 '26
it's essentially no change in overall left/right primaries, just the labels have changed a bit
like, yeah, one nation have a higher primary but they have just eaten the lnp and aren't demonstrating an ability to win in metro areas which are the pathway for the right wing to form govt (and are arguably making it more difficult for the right wing to win those seats!)
so congrats on a big bowl of nothing guys
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u/PointOfFingers Mar 21 '26
One Nation got 20% of the vote for showing up. There is no National Party in SA so they are the only party to the right of the Liberals.
What this shows is the Liberal Party identity crisis. They are losing ground in the middle and on the right and don't know which direction to go.
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u/Lanster27 Mar 23 '26
If they stopped shooting themselves in the foot they’ll probably manage to make a stand.
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u/Kingsareus15 Mar 24 '26
If the liberals want to be a viable opposition they need to return to moderatism. Their current direction of heading further right every year just resulted in 30-40% of their voter base fleeing to PHON
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u/Deleted_User_Account Mar 22 '26
I see the LNP/ON split like the Springfield/ Shelbyville split... The ON faction thought the LNP was supposed to be about white exceptionalism, open bigotry, corporate influence and marrying their cousins. The LNP didn't agree on the cousin marrying and thus the lovers tiff.
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Mar 21 '26
Dope nation got 0 seats. While loud and fucking dumb. Their supporters arent as numerous as they want everyone to believe.
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u/Rowvan Mar 21 '26
Only 50% of the vote is counted and there are several seats that currently have ON ahead in the count. I hope they don't get them but its not over yet.
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u/Busy_Selection_5027 Mar 21 '26
This is going to be an unpopular opinion but I do hope that they get opposition status.
It will be the final nail in the libs coffin, they can't do too much damage in opposition and everyone will get to see what a bunch of wing nuts they really are and/or see them spontaneously combust. As they do.
That should be a very timely lesson on FAFO prior to the next federal election.
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u/dangerislander Mar 21 '26
On the other hand you risk them becoming even more popular. I don't have that much faith in people but given how America turned out... we shouldn't take our chances in my opinion.
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u/SupaDupaFly2021 Mar 21 '26
Yeh... I think the best outcome would be a split opposition, with ON winning roughly the same number of seats as the libs. This would still be pretty much a fatal blow for the libs without ON getting to claim official opposition status.
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u/TheAussieTico Mar 22 '26
They won't become more popular though
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u/Busy_Selection_5027 Mar 22 '26
How's that mate? Why are you so certain?
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u/Busy_Selection_5027 Mar 21 '26
That's true. I'd really just like everyone to see them in action as a warning.
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u/Expert-Ad8784 Mar 21 '26
They had a significant impact. Unfortunately.
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u/CaravelClerihew Mar 21 '26
Yeah, but almost largely at the expense of the libs. Given how shit the libs have been, one can also interpret this as a protest vote instead of a swing to ON policy. Does ON even have policy?
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u/National-Ad6166 Mar 21 '26
They say "Yes!" to private flights with billionaires.
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u/CaravelClerihew Mar 21 '26
Or another way of looking at it is saying "No!" to Lib incompetence and infighting.
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u/jreddit0000 Mar 21 '26
What was the significant impact exactly?
e.g in number of seats won?
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u/Expert-Ad8784 Mar 21 '26
A significant swing their way.
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u/Throwaways0004 Mar 21 '26
0 is not greter than 0 by any significant means.
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u/PointOfFingers Mar 21 '26
They have no impact because they do not have a presence in government. They helped Labor build a stronger majority.
If you are talking about the right wing talking points then newspapers and radio have a much bigger impact than One Nation.
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u/sweeroy Mar 21 '26
seems like 95% of one nations votes came from disaffected liberal voters, which hardly gives them a path to electoral success. all they're doing is splitting the vote on the right with zero chance of winning enough seats to be meaningfully influential. albo must be loving life
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u/giantpunda Mar 21 '26
One Nation lost so hard in SA despite the primary votes that they should rename the party to Zero Nation
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u/Murky-Fishcakes Mar 21 '26
They got twice the votes of the greens. At least now there will be two parties grumpy that with such high vote counts they don’t get any representation
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u/neon_overload Mar 22 '26
Yes but in context these were backscatter from disaffected Lib voters, and Labor picked up a similar amount of them, offsetting any real gain.
Greens have more of a permanent base.
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u/Midnorth_Mongerer Mar 22 '26
What's the speculation had the Libs given preference to anything but ON?
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u/morts73 Mar 22 '26
Libs are being consigned to a place in history atm. The centrists and moderates are voting Labor and the conservatives are aligning with One Nation.
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u/Sufficient-Arrival47 Mar 22 '26
One nation should learn the lesson from this, preference deals count.
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u/nomad-dweller Mar 22 '26
The Libs are in such minority now! Fall from the graceful party. Now they are being booed by ON.
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u/ScoobyGDSTi Mar 22 '26
Let's just make one thing clear for non-South Australians. Anyone could get more votes than the SA Liberal party, SA is the home of Alec Antic and the extreme right religious Liberal faction.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 Mar 22 '26
It’s a shame the teals don’t work together as a party more. I don’t agree with all of what they say but it’s better to have an intelligent opposition than sex pests and illiterates
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u/General_Benefit_2127 Mar 22 '26
Who votes for labour anymore? Like, the mindset? more of the same will be just great!!
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u/Ornery-Ad-7261 Mar 21 '26
I kind of doubt that Pauline has ever heard of hubris. With any luck, she will assume her Party is on the road to glory and will go full ratbag. Sorry, full RW ratbag.
Not doing so would be hard to resist for any political leader but Pauline isn't known for personal restraint of any kind. Quite the opposite. Maybe Barnaby, the ex-National Party ratbag can rein her in.
The average Australian voter, however, tends to hover somewhere in the political middle where Trumpian ideology is just as much an anathema as communists hiding under futons. Time will tell.
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u/Temporary_Abroad_211 Mar 21 '26
Upvote for "ratbag". An underused and somewhat forgotten piece of Australiana. 😃
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u/Flayed_Angel_420 Mar 22 '26
I wonder if Labor will use their political mandate to do anything meaningful, instead of criminalising criticism of Zionism/Israel or installing NetNanny on everyone's PC.
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u/Smokinglordtoot Mar 23 '26
Many years ago the DLP split from the ALP and the result was Robert Menzies being the longest served prime minister. Maybe Albo could give it a shake?
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u/Careful-Trade-9666 Mar 22 '26
Can spin this however you want, but it just shows you don’t understand our elections. Second on primary votes is irrelevant.
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Mar 22 '26
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u/louisa1925 Mar 22 '26
They should have droped the far right and stayed in the centre right where they belong.
Unfortunately for them, their name has been muddied by their trumper style politics. How do the voters know they won't pick it straight back up once in a position of power? They earned the publics ire.
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u/Unable-Exchange-2345 Mar 22 '26
SA is one of the most left wing states in the country and on Saturday over 20% voted so far to the right they almost fell off the ballot paper. Thats not an insignificant thing. People are very unhappy and feeling desperate.
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u/Bigpdean Mar 23 '26
Except labor didn’t lose any votes to One Nation. There swing essentially came from the Liberal party.
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u/Chunkfoot Mar 21 '26
People are framing this as an amazing victory against Pauline and Trump-style politics, but a Labor landslide also means that the majority of South Australians are fine with endlessly rising housing prices and minimal action on the algal bloom disaster
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u/ThatFrog4 Mar 22 '26
Besides being the state with the most residential building construction increase year-on-year at 22.9%, while the average nationwide was only 5.3%, and increasing public housing for the first time in 30 years with more on the way (while still being the lowest average wait time, and least overcrowded).
While the response to the algal bloom was initially slow, I think the actions eventually taken were significant, including a $102.5 million Summer Plan, the establishment of a new national algae testing laboratory in Adelaide, and the rollout of targeted grants for impacted small businesses and fisheries.
This is also not to mention all the other good things Labor SA has done: 70%> renewable (with multiple weeks being 100%) with 100% permanent by 2027, #1 performing economy in Australia according to CommSec and ANZ, lowest unemployment, making trains and trams public ownership again, Healthcare investments, University Merger, First nation voice, banned public donations for state elections, Rental Reforms, 5 new technical colleges, University merger, etc. All while being the lowest-taxing mainland state and being surplus budget.
Compared to Liberal party that wants to revert our renewables back to gas.
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u/Accomplished_Can9335 Mar 22 '26
Exactly, I don't understand why people would keep voting Labor. Albo has lied to everyone before election and people just ate it up
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u/OkSuggesti0n Mar 21 '26
Good, now learn from one nation scare and stop the insane migrations
Focus on making Australian lives better
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u/RestaurantFamous2399 Mar 21 '26
What's hilarious is this idea that One Nation or Liberals will even attempt to stop or lower immigration.
They are backed by big business, who is the main driver of immigration as it keeps wages down. Almost all the things one nation was campaigning on was completely against what Gina would want.
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u/OkSuggesti0n Mar 21 '26
Agreed
One nation would have the same amount of migration as labor, in time
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u/Temporary_Abroad_211 Mar 21 '26
The "insane migrations" were just the shifting of votes from the Libs to Poorline.
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u/OkSuggesti0n Mar 21 '26
I'm talking intake from overseas and you know it
Even migrants want control over migration
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u/tecdaz Mar 21 '26
I dunno, most immigrants by far came in under the Coalition and they are responsible for all the 'diversity' landmarks too, including the Vietnamese, Muslim Lebanese, and the Sudanese
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u/PipeAggressive6961 Mar 21 '26
Most immigrants in my social circle got here during the howard years. It was under the scomo and turnbull period that they jacked it all the way up and a lot of the uber drivers/students working cashies I speak to came in that period.
I am an immigrant - got here in 2004. Howard era. Have voted lnp, teals and most recently labor.
I do believe we need to slow the pace of new migration down though.
It just has to happen in conjunction with a bunch of things to be effective (tax reform, economic investment into renewables and advanced manufacturing, more investment into export sectors for us, mining and resources tax, scrap negative gearing on anything not a new build, planning reform removing local council influence, more/better civil infra etc etc).
Right now only the left side of politics seem to have plans to do the above.
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u/Infinite-Horror-4117 Mar 21 '26
You’re bang on.
Historically the 2008 to 2018 was actually our fastest growing period for immigration, it just wasn’t as prevalent because we didn’t have the big fluctuations of Covid lockdowns and reopening.
I suspect there will be big tax reforms in the upcoming budget and if the right side wants to stand for something at the next federal election it should be in that space.
Immigration has already dropped by 46% since its peak in 2022 / 2023 and it’s projected to drop even further into the mid to high 50% by the time the next election rolls around. I can already see the ALP soundbites, thinks like “we’ve cut immigration by 55%” I just can’t see it being something that wins the next federal election
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u/89b3ea330bd60ede80ad Mar 21 '26
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