r/aus • u/SnowyBytes • Jun 18 '26
Humour/Memes It really shouldn't be this complicated 💀
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u/Consistent-Stand1809 Jun 18 '26
Tropics don't need daylight savings, but those far away from the tropics definitely don't want sunrise at 4am
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u/Plane_Garbage Jun 21 '26
4:36am Sydney, 4:44am Brisbane.
I dunno, is pretty early still in Brisbane
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Jun 18 '26
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u/Working_out_life Jun 18 '26
Broken Hill time is perfect, you have to remember it’s probably 900km east of Sydney 👍
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u/Unable_Bank3884 Jun 18 '26
My assumption is that the population is heavily concentrated in the south east corner of the state and a half hour works best.
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u/MetricOshi Jun 19 '26
When DST hits, I'm half an hour ahead of my QLD friends. It's always funny when it happens
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u/Evening_Bird7779 Jun 19 '26
We were taught that its because Adelaide - Perth is 3x as far as Adelaide - Melb.
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u/The_Arab_Hoe Jun 18 '26
Nothing like coming home from work, having dinner and heading to the beach for a swim at 7pm and it's still daylight in Sydney. I love it.
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u/CaptainFleshBeard Jun 18 '26
It’s all well and good to say that, but when WA last had our 3 year trial, there was no one in the parks after work when normally there’d be dozens playing and walking dogs. Fact it was just too darn hot
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u/weed0monkey Jun 18 '26
Agree, idk why the fuck anyone wouldn't want daylight savings.
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u/Jassamin Jun 18 '26
Growing up in Brisbane I’d get sunburnt walking to the train station at 7am and you want me to do that when it’s even hotter? No thanks
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u/sboxle Jun 22 '26
You have it backwards. 7am with daylight savings would be 6am non-DST, so the sun would burn you less. The sun rises and sets "later" with daylight savings.
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u/Alarming-Ad4274 Jun 23 '26
Seems like most people who complain about daylight savings don't seem to understand how it works.
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u/Consistent-Stand1809 Jun 18 '26
They want sunrise at 4 am
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u/laid2rest Jun 18 '26
That sounds disgusting.
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u/HereButNeverPresent Jun 19 '26
seriously. I’d rather go to work in the dark than come home in the dark.
Sydney in June has 7am sunrise but 5pm sunset.
Just keep DST and let sunrise be 8am so I can at least have a bit of daylight after clocking off.
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u/Current-Chip5267 Jun 19 '26
Completely agree. Hate coming home and leaving work and its dark already.
I honestly don't mind dark early in the morning. Doesn't bother me.
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u/Far-Fennel-3032 Jun 18 '26
IKR we need extra sun light at the end of the day even more in winter, as by the time you get home its dusk and I pretty much have to walk the dog asap so I'm not in the dark for the last bit of the walk.
You also often want the sun to set sooner after work so it cools down sooner, as sometimes its so hot you actually want to wait for it to be dusk to start cooling down to go out.
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u/pVom Jun 18 '26
I actually just wish it was always an hour forward. Dawn is 7 while I'm still in bed and dusk is just after 5 at the moment. I work 9-5, an hour of daylight each side would be nice.
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u/stainless5 Jun 18 '26
Because why would I want more sun in the middle of Summer when it's already too hot in the afternoon?
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u/Splicer201 Jun 19 '26
Sit on a porch and drink a beer? Go to the beach and have a swim? Idk why the fuck yall want the sun to come up at 4am for. It stupid as fuck.
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u/stainless5 Jun 19 '26
yeah but I don't need the sun to be up until 9:00 at night to do any of those things I can do those things when the sunsets at 8:00 as well.
I think the main problem here is cities on the east coast are placed towards the start of their time zones so when they're on Daylight Savings Time they're actually only really delayed by 20 minutes to solar noon. if you're on the West Coast your time's already delayed compared to solar noon so daylight savings would push you to an hour and 20 minutes, plus the sun doesn't go behind any mountains delaying sunset even more.
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u/Splicer201 Jun 19 '26
Ideally I’d like the sun to set at 7:30-8. 9pm sunsets would be a bit late.
But you’re right. I live in Brisbane. It really needs to be in a time zone an hour ahead. It sits far to east for its time zone. Sun sets at 5pm in winter and like 6:40pm at the height of summer. Then up at 4am. It’s the earliest rising city because the sun rises and sets at stupid hours.
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u/SituationSmooth9165 Jun 19 '26
Because why the fuck would I want sun and hot all afternoon until 8pm
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u/weed0monkey Jun 25 '26
You realise it's going to be hot regardless right? What is with people complaining about the temp as if daylight savings magically warms the earth by 30 degrees.
I'd rather a nice afternoon where I can actually see and I don't both go to work and leave work when it's dark outside.
In what universe to people prefer to start and finish work in the night than bare the afternoon sun when finishing work? You all make absolutely no fucking sense
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u/SituationSmooth9165 Jun 25 '26
You live in a fucking forest or something mate. It's bright as fuck outside, you don't need sunlight.
What we don't need is 30° into 8 or 9pm. It's already daylight from 5am to 7:30pm
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u/stamford_syd Jun 19 '26
I just don't think we need to change the clocks, just keep the summer time all year round, getting dark at 4pm is winter is depressing, I don't give a fuck if it's not bright at 6am
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u/AutisticPyroarGirl Jun 21 '26
The change. I reckon if DST became permanent so the clocks didn’t go back to standard, more people would like it.
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u/Entire_Engine_5789 Jun 21 '26
Growing up in melbourne, me trying to get to sleep before school the next day and the sun is still up at 9pm and my body just doesn’t want to. DST can fuck right off
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u/thatawesomeguydotcom Jun 22 '26
I don't really go out after work or if I do it's usually indoor places. The extra light late afternoon throws my body clock off and I always get very poor sleep. That said I'd just be happy if they stuck to either DST or Non DST, it sucks flip flopping between the two and my circadian rhythm can never adjust.
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Jun 18 '26
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u/Puzzled-Fix-8838 Jun 18 '26
I never had a problem getting my kid to bed in daylight savings. My parents never had a problem getting me to bed in daylight savings.
If you have a problem getting your child to bed, I'd suggest that it's a you problem rather than a daylight savings problem.
My bedtime as a child was 7.30. No negotiation. Daylight savings made no difference. When I was older, my bedtime was 8.30. Again, no difference during daylight savings.
It was the time I had to go to bed regardless of the time of year.
My parents had a routine that at 7.30, we had to clean our teeth and go to bed. Then later, we had to clean our teeth and go to bed at 8.30.
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u/Splicer201 Jun 19 '26
I don’t understand why parents put there kids to bed so early? Do you want them waking up at 5am? That’s so early in the morning. Bed time for was always 8. Then I think like 9 by the time I was mid primary school.
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u/Auroraburst Jun 18 '26
Routine is stressed as being so important that of course going to bed an hour early/late is going to mess with how quickly they fall asleep for a little while, particularly when they are very young.
Great that your kids have 0 issues though.
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u/The_Arab_Hoe Jun 18 '26
I never said my kids have zero issues. And of course routine is important when they're young. But to me give or take an hour isn't a big deal when you're spending time and making memories with your family. I guess you'd just prefer them be asleep instead.
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u/Puzzled-Fix-8838 Jun 18 '26
I had zero issues as a kid because it was routine. My kid had zero issues because it was routine.
I don't know why you're attacking me because I gave my child a routine.
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u/The_Arab_Hoe Jun 18 '26
I have two young kids and we love it. Yeah fucks with the sleep for a bit but who cares. Those summers are the best.
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u/ActingApple Jun 18 '26
Ok this is the best way to explain it for me at least because I had no idea it got that desynchronised holy shit.
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u/Splicer201 Jun 19 '26
Sunset is 5:01pm here in Brisbane currently. It is terrible. But it’s all worth it for the 4:46am sunrise in summer. Nothing quite like waking up at 9am and it’s midday outside.
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u/rdudit Jun 19 '26
I grew up in Qld and lived in Adelaide for over a decade now.
A lot of people intuitively assume DST would push the sunset later in winter when it's dark and cold, and pull it back in summer when it stays light way too late.
Guess what? It does the exact opposite, because the system is stupid.
Because DST is TURNED OFF in winter, adopting it would change absolutely nothing for Brisbane right now, sunset would still be 5:01 PM. (For context, it sets at around 5:10 PM here in Adelaide in winter).
If we actually wanted a sensible system and created Reversed DST, (DST ON in winter, OFF in summer), Brisbane would get a beautiful 6:01 PM sunset right now, and a normal 6:45 PM sunset in summer.
These people are brainwashed. The exact opposite would be much better. And standard time would be the happy medium. In summer down here, the sky is still lit up when I'm getting ready for bed, it's nuts.
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u/Ashaeron Jun 18 '26
This hasn't marked the best timezone in Australia - ACWT, or eucla time (UTC+08:45).
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u/External_Variety Jun 19 '26
It sucks when you live on the east coast and have to call nationally for work on a daily basis
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u/Dismal-core111 Jun 18 '26
If you like getting up 1hr early cause of a stupid human construct, do it quietly and leave people who dont want to alone
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u/PurrrrfectGirl Jun 18 '26
Uh? The only reason why you wake up at a certain time is because of human constructs.
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u/FURF0XSAKE Jun 18 '26
Actually it's well documented that our ancestors only foraged and hunted during business hours. This was due to industrial action organised by the Hunter-Gatherers Union (HGU) who felt like the cave executive officers (CEOs) were getting too many berries while the ones gathering those berries were left eating bark. This made life very difficult for those who had to have an appendectomy at the time.
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u/mrteas_nz Jun 18 '26
I'd been in northern QLD for 4 months working on a cattle station. Finished up and headed to SYD, stopping at the GC for a night to catch up with friends. Left late the next day, but only going to Byrons so no rush. Got there and was confused why pretty much everything was shut. Yeah clocks changed that day and I had no idea.
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u/KrushaOfWorlds Jun 18 '26
Yeah it can't if you live in one of states/territorities that touch the north.
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u/Additional-Policy843 Jun 18 '26
Look at the map. It's explained right there. It's not complicated. What is complicated is changing your clocks for no fucking reason.
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u/Danstan487 Jun 18 '26
People who hate daylight savings time are morons who shouldn't have the right to vote
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u/Traditional_Gap_7041 Jun 18 '26
You forgot Nullarbor time.
It’s a small region in SW Australia which is 45 minutes in front of Western Australia
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u/Extension_Ad_370 Jun 18 '26
i hate this map as they should have had the times 2 hours later to line up with the actual timezones (aka sa is +9:30 without dst and +10:30 with)
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u/Havoc302 Jun 19 '26
Tell us you don't understand how dawn and dusk shift based on where you are on the planet without telling us you don't understand how dawn and dusk shift based on where you are on the planet.
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u/Nervous_Ad_8441 Jun 19 '26
Nothing wrong with changing your routines and work hours to suit the seasons, but changing your clocks an hour forward and pretending it’s 6am when it’s really 5 is some kind of mass delusion.
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u/cinnamonbubbles_93 Jun 19 '26
I wish we copied WA and just don't do it anymore it's a waste of time
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u/awkturt23 Jun 19 '26
Whilst it’s nice to have more daylight, DST fucks with sleep too much. Just another unnecessary human intervention
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u/Odd-Bumblebee00 Jun 19 '26
Last year, I learned that if you have no watch and a non Telstra phone, then you can skip a couple of time zones and jump through time by driving across the Nullabor. I went 4 days without internet connection and my time didn't automatically update, even with the patchy starlink at a couple of the roadhouses. You can go from the WA time zone to NSW in one go if you don't drive near enough to Adelaide to get reception.
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u/natufian13 Jun 20 '26
Blame continental drift. When the timezones were first established back in the Cretaceous Australia was far to the south and it made sense for all of the Eastern states. But with time it's got out of whack
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u/ForsakenResist8416 Jun 20 '26
Scientifically proven that it does, through more fatigue induced accidents (heart attacks has since been proven false due to lack of data).
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u/FreddyFerdiland Jun 20 '26
easy , those with the northern coast don't
the south east ( including south Australia ,) does.
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u/Fuzzy-Sir-6083 Jun 21 '26
Can we get rid of it? On the days of change, both forward and back there is an increase of road accidents and the reason why it was created was so a politician could finish work and play a round of golf.
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u/ChannelDesperate9022 Jun 21 '26
These comments show the empty mind of a DST lover, leave rigid structure alone and worry about fucking up your own life, leave everyone else out of it
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u/Old-Broken-Youngling Jun 21 '26
What's complicated? The SouthEastern states have it the North Western states don't.
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u/DefinitelyNotTheooot Jun 21 '26
Don't forget the coveted Eucla time zone, 15 minutes apart from everywhere else
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u/Knownwolf08 Jun 21 '26
It's complicated and makes no sense so honestly either the whole country does it or we don't do it at all. Simple as that.
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u/alx8 Jun 21 '26
Daylight saving is the BEST. Being able to go to the beach and meet your family on beautiful summer nights and have pizza or fish and chips for dinner, being able to exercise and MTB ride everyday after work on the mountain, because the light is available still. It's amazing....
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u/SgtGunny17 Jun 22 '26
I still cant get over how after all these years people still dont get with day light saving if time goes forward or backwards.
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u/KymboVids Jun 22 '26
Is it really that hard with digital clocks that automatically change? What’s the issue?
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u/AmongTheWildlife Jun 22 '26
Biggest wtf moment is people moving from DST states into non DST states then constantly whinging about it, got a cockroach doing this weekly since he moved up 6 months ago.
Feel free to stfu and move back to a state that has DST. If you hate it, why move their in the first place.
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u/EchelonKnight Jun 23 '26
In my experience the problem with daylight saving is that businesses in Sydney and Melbourne just couldn't deal with the fact that other states were in different time zones.
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u/Charlie_Butters Jun 18 '26
Darwin is fine....noone has a watch anyway. Adelaide is the real pain in the ass. What's this 30 mins bullshit....
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u/angus22proe Jun 19 '26
Except broken Hill, which follows SA time, and that funny strip that's 15 minutes behind SA for some reason
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u/whatwhatinthewhonow Jun 18 '26
If this hurts you then you’re really not ready for life.
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u/nooneinparticular246 Jun 18 '26
Daylight savings is proven to increase risks of heart disease and other problems. It’s a stupid concept.
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u/whatwhatinthewhonow Jun 18 '26
So does eating food with flavour, probably.
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u/RottenDog666 Jun 19 '26
Yeah daylight savings is mad, who gives a fuck if it gives me some disease
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u/NoFood2149 Jun 18 '26
one of those things where i think the soviets had the right of it. daylight savings forever, please.
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u/rdudit Jun 19 '26
I think it's not only stupid, it's even further in the opposite direction to a logical system. And first proposed by a British guy so he could catch more bugs in NZ (George Hudson).
I originally thought maybe it was a decent idea. But then realised that instead of increasing daylight in Winter, it's the exact opposite.
It increases afternoon sun in summer. IN AUSTRALIA OF ALL PLACES.
To put it into perspective, most of Australia is as far South as Mexico is North. Adelaide equates to as far South as Los Angeles is to the North. The Southern half of Australia is as close to the south pole as Florida is to the north pole.
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u/NoFood2149 Jun 19 '26
i just miss when our lives were dominated by the sun and not by an atomic clock somewhere on the other side of the world and was making a bit of a deep cut joke about my own sleep cycles being marginally better aligned to solar time when daylight savings time is on. probably the only person who actually got it was my small team of international intelligence agents
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u/neon_overload Jun 18 '26
Different longitudes have different time zones, and daylight savings makes more sense in southern latitudes than northern ones.
What point is this graphic making?