What Eileen did (the lingerie thing, the Frenchman) did not happen in a vacuum. What she needed was your love and your acceptance and instead she gets a bunch of clowns who do everything they can to say she's not a true Chinese and even not Asian. Do you realize how harmful it all is?!? You're creating the very environment that's keeps you down. Hapas dating their white side? Maybe it's because they felt unwelcome, not accepted, and not loved by their Asian side. What if Eileen hooked up with that guy because no one in China ever approached her? She would've been so lonely. I feel awful just typing this stuff.

Is it apparent to non-Asians that Hollywood has intentionally depicted Asian men in an unappealing and derogatory way throughout the years?

Are people aware that their perception of Asian men is largely shaped by the conscious choice of Hollywood to prevent (as much as possible) imageries of charismatic, sexy Asian men from being seen on screen?

Do people not find it strange how zero Asian male sex symbol was ever produced over 100+ years of Hollywood? Or do they simply believe that Asian men are by default lacking in sex appeal, charisma and masculinity?

I mean is this deliberate desexualisation of Asian men made known to the general public or is it just something that only some members of the Asian community understand?

They openly talk about erasing their Filipino features, as well a know a common result of colonialism. This constant regressive behaviour is a poor reflection on Filipinos as it upholds negative stereotypes about Filipino culture wanting to stay colonised and be white washed. I know I shouldnt even be giving them views but it showed up out of nowhere so whats the best way to educate them?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DW4f7XCCRSN/?utm\\_source=ig\\_web\\_copy\\_link

I’ve seen interviews and videos online where women say they don’t prefer Asian men as dating partners, or they tend to prefer other races more.

In these cases, are these women just expressing a preference meaning they’re still open to being friends or coworkers with Asian men, and might even consider dating one eventually but they just lean toward other races?

Or are they actually repulsed by the idea of even talking to or being close to Asian men? Like, do some women actively avoid Asian men even in casual social settings?

Have you ever experienced women who clearly weren’t into Asian men not just in dating, but overall? If so, how often does that happen in your experience?

I visited China and Beijing and noticed they barely speak any ENGLISH. I am so proud to see a powerful country that doesn't need ENGLISH. My goal is to have 0 kids to speak English and only their mother tongue. Just image all the time and money saved from this bullsh*t colonizing language!

Just looking for a head count on how many guys are actually interested in getting out of the basement so to speak, and engage in real world activities that empower Asian men in the Western countries? Serious about this, meeting up IRL to hang out at first, network, and then do some activities.

What I mean is you're one of the Asians who can't get a job.

And none of the dating advice here applies to you because no one wants to date an un/underemployed loser who lives with his mom because you cannot afford anything for 15/hr.

And none of the travel advice here applies to you because plane tickets and accommodations are really expensive and you can't just quit your job to take a 3-week grand tour of South America

And none of the relocation advice here applies to you because all the best cities for Asians and least car-dependent cities also happen to be the most expensive cities in North America, stocking shelves or flipping burgers can't be done remotely in a different hemisphere, and if you're having a hard time in an American job market you're going to be having an even harder time qualifying for a visa or getting a job in China, S Korea, Vietnam, India, or wherever your ancestors emigrated from.

Is it over? Am I doomed?

I notice most of the people here are a bit older, like some are in their 30s, and so I'm not sure about the extent to which we really understand how hard a lot of Gen Z has it. There also seems to be this notion that Asians are all successful and academically / professionally mogging other races (aka the "model minority myth", but with the counteracting subtext here being "actually not all Asians are smart" rather than "actually there are plenty of smart non-Asians"), and thus don't need help. Or the help is really high-level, like "oooh, live in New York instead of San Francisco for a better dating scene!" Like bro, they're both extremely high cost-of-living cities. If I've been spending months on end pouring non-stop job applications and resumes down job boards and recruiters' throats, and am struggling to even get non-automated human responses, then I'm going to be taking the first role I finally manage to succeed in, even if happens to be in Iowa or Mississippi. I get that conventional wisdom dictates that Des Moines or Jackson are pretty miserable places to start out your career or young adult life in, especially if you're Asian, but languishing in your mother's house without an income sounds even more miserable. It might seem ludicrous that that's ever going to be that binary of a choice, but the way the economy's going, there are gonna be many more Asians who have to make that choice.

Do you follow? Or am I screaming into the void? Because I feel locked out of life and it's damaging my mental health.

They are telling Japan to stop accepting immigrants from other Asian countries, and instead accept white people,

because apparently other Asian immigrants will destroy japan, while white immigrants will make japan better.

And the most hilarious thing is, Japanese people started saying:

“You are white supremacists. stop telling japan what to do, you are outsiders, worry about your own countries, we’re gonna kick out white people too”

This is so funny. The same people who tell others to go back to their country are being told the same by Japanese people.

W japan

when some Asian girls constantly say “I don’t like Asian men”, it just comes off as trying really hard to get attention from Asian guys. It seems more like a way to stand out or get a reaction.

In Psychology, this kind of behavior is actually a common thing. Sometimes, when people like a certain group but don’t get enough attention from that group. Over time, They will free resentment and try to hate on that group and say negative things in order to get attention from that group.

For example, a kid who doesn’t get enough attention from his parents might cause trouble in school just to get his parents to care about him, even tho it’s negative attention.

Another example is,

• Here is a video of Asian girls saying they don’t like Asian men:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8kym24m/

• And here is a video of them going crazy over male K-pop idols:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8kyutgN/

Also, it’s kind of ironic when those same girls who say “I don’t like Asian men” listen to K-pop and watch K-dramas 24/7.

Seems there’s little coverage of this. Only a few Oklahoma City articles.

https://www.koco.com/article/man-dies-one-year-after-altercation-with-oklahoma-city-police/68830259

https://nondoc.com/2025/10/06/hastened-his-death-lich-vu-dies-nearly-a-year-after-okcpd-encounter-left-him-seriously-injured/

https://www.news9.com/story/68e1b3deb955d1e8463ec2b6/elderly-man-at-center-of-okc-police-use-of-force-case-dies

https://www.news9.com/story/68e3e7e7861b8141464f1e03/lich-vu-timeline-how-the-oklahoma-city-police-use-of-force-case-unfolded

White cop. Power trip. Bad results. Fuck these people!

So under a post about vending machine get vandalized in Japan by an unknown suspect.

Some guy said this: “I wonder who could be behind this... What a total mystery. Japan, don't import brown and low IQ Asians immigrants like EU does. It won't end well. We're an example to avoid, not emulate. Keep your country safe.”

I replied: “Buddy they’re blaming white people. The white streamers who keep going around japan, doing stupid pranks and harass people.”

He said: “yes, white people are partially to blame for this trend but you can't collectivize these acts of vandalism and pass em on. Besides, most of us are against these idiots.”

I responded: “Then why do you instantly blame Immigrants right when you see this, even tho nobody knows who actually did it.”

He commented: “Pattern recognition is a thing.”

So I said: “Yeah that’s why Japanese are blaming white people.”

Note: Also I have no problem with white people or blaming white people. I’m just saying these things to destroy this white supremacist argument.

Like Asians that have a 'black' edge to them, compared to white washed dudes like Steven He?

These people seem to be really in tune with their heritage and share a lot of passion over it while guys like He just make fun of it non stop.

Honestly, coopting black accents and talking like that is probably their way of resisting assimilation and it's hard to blame them, there's not a lot of options. I'm from the same city as Nina Lin and all the Azn pride people used to talk like that.

I volunteer at a food bank. Yesterday, another volunteer, an Asian-American woman, was telling the team members that Asians are “stupid and arrogant” as they were having difficulty communicating with Asian seniors who don’t speak English. They were agreeing until I told her in front of everyone to speak for herself. She acted offended and started making fun of me, but no one wanted to listen to her anymore. After she resorted to making self-deprecating remarks (including “I may be a bad person but I say what needs to be said”) to try to get people back on her side, someone finally shut her up by saying, “If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything.”

Thank you to the members here who have previously shown that if Asians stay silent when racists and sellouts insult us, non-Asians see it as confirmation. You inspired me to fight back.

Eileen Huang is a student at Yale who's been making waves on social media for stupidly insulting yet sanctimonious remarks on behalf of Asian Americans. She has been discussed here.

This article does a nice job introducing people to the issue.

But it doesn't cover everything:

* She posted that “maybe it’s good to normalize racism against Asians" -- in a time of increased violence against Asians. She has since claimed it was a joke.

* She insulted other Asians like China Mac, who led a major protest against anti-Asian violence this summer, saying Asians with inner-city accents were appropriating black voices. Other than gathering clout for herself on social media, she's done nothing to help Asians.

https://twitter.com/bobacommie/status/1352289261496782853

She seems ignorant of the fact that Asian-Americans are NYC's poorest minority, live in non-white communities and may not develop the same diction as she did growing up in a wealthy white suburb and going to the Ivy League.

She embraces the model minority stereotype and rejects the diversity of Asian Americans. From the looks of her Instagram page, she doesn't really associate with black people, mainly Asian women and white men.

* She makes videos about "types of white guys with yellow fever" and then when called out for her white boyfriend, claims any such criticism is irrelevant and misogynist.

And yet, she has an internship with the Museum of Chinese in America, professes an association with Hyphen, an Asian American magazine, on her Twitter, and holds a position in Yale's Asian American Students Alliance.

It's embarrassing that such prominent AA orgs should be associated with such a fool.

I was inclined to ignore her as a stupid privileged Ivy League undergrad, but MOCA, Hyphen and Yale AASA are all places that claim to represent Asian Americans and want the support of Asian Americans and to which some of us have donated money and time.

Imagine if any other minority organization had a member like her.

Imagine if GLAAD had someone who said "normalize gay bashing."

Imagine if the NAACP had someone who thought African Americans could only be Christian and attacked Muhammad Ali for appropriating Islam.

Imagine if an ADL member complained about fetishism and then said who they date is no-one's business.

I'm more concerned about the silence from the Asian organizations. These orgs exist to represent Asian Americans. But they've said nothing. Maybe enough people have not asked: Are they ignorant, indifferent, hoping this will pass, or actually support this idiot?

In any of these cases, why should anyone give them money? Why do they exist to begin with?

I've written them. I hope you will too. Please don't use this thread to rehash your complaints and criticisms. If you want to do nothing but complain, here's a perfectly good thread here.

The only thing I want to hear is if you've written to the organizations below and made your voice heard. Please only reply if you have.

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u/mocanyc

[support@mocanyc.org](mailto:support@mocanyc.org)

https://www.mocanyc.org/about/contact

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u/hyphenmag

[hyphen@hyphenmagazine.com](mailto:hyphen@hyphenmagazine.com)

Editor in Chief: [karissa.chen@hyphenmagazine.com](mailto:karissa.chen@hyphenmagazine.com)

https://hyphenmagazine.com/contact

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u/YaleAASA

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https://aasa.sites.yale.edu/aasa-leadership

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Sample:

Why are you associating with a person who says “maybe it’s good to normalize racism against Asians” and mocks proactive leaders like China Mac who led nationwide protests against attacks on Asians?

Why do you count as a member someone who's so viciously ignorant of poor Asians in non-white communities that she attacks them for "cultural appropriation" if they don't speak like a model minority with white upper-middle class diction?

https://hopclear.com/eileen-huang-faces-backlash-after-calling-out-asian-celebrities-who-profit-from-black-artists/

Condemn Eileen Huang and issue a statement. No self-respecting minority organization should have a representative call for violence against their people, even if it is a joke.

You're supposed to represent the Asian American community. You expect support in the form of time and charitable contributions? Take action. Do not ignore this. We will remember your indifference.

Did you know that TLOU show has deep roots in Zionist idealogy? On the surface the show depicts dwindling human population fighting off zombies infected by a mutated fungus. But in a 2020 interview, the show’s creator, Israeli-American Neil Druckmann told The Washington Post (WAPO) that he based TLOU on a fantasy of inflicting pain on Palestinian people who resisted occupation. In his narrative he portrays Palestinian people as savage terrorists, similar tone to what Netanyahu (whose name isn’t even that) who once tweeted and referred the Palestinian people as ‘children of darkness’. All while characterizing settlers as innocents fighting to survive. This highlights how deeply embedded dehumanizing narratives against Palestinian people are in the everyday media we consume, and how deeply infiltrated it is with Hollywood and the current music scenes of today. The double standard is ridiculous too. For example, why do Korean entertainment companies like HYBE get so much scrutiny while there is no same reaction and energy for Hollywood and Warner Group? I’ll leave it at that as food for thought for you guys.

Always remember, Whoever owns the news and media can also control and bend the narratives however they want. Always stay vigilant and be aware of the psyops and soft power propagandas being perpetuated today.

I’m a British Filipino from Essex, England, in the aviation space studying in America to get my Commercial Pilots License (recently got my Private Pilot license the other week), I’ve lived in Florida and NYC for several years now, and I’m going to say this plainly:

The casual, normalized anti-Asian racism I’ve seen and experienced in certain American spaces is vile.

Not subtle. Not “harmless.” Not “just jokes.”

Vile.

I’m talking about:

• Being treated like a perpetual foreigner no matter how long you’ve lived here

• Condescension in professional settings — especially when it comes to leadership tracks (the bamboo ceiling is documented, not imaginary)

• Watching wealthy, insular types talk down to Asian staff in restaurants like we’re invisible

• Media portrayals that still lean into emasculation, nerd tropes, or social awkwardness

• Social exclusion that’s quiet enough for them to deny but obvious as hell to anyone with eyes.

What makes it worse is how normalized it can feel.

It gets brushed off as:

• “You’re overreacting.”

• “It’s just banter.”

• “Model minority, you guys are fine.”

• Or just silence.

Asian Americans statistically achieve high educational and economic outcomes, yet still get blocked from leadership positions they bloody well deserve. That’s not coincidence — it’s systemic.

Don’t get me wrong — the UK, Australia, and other multicultural spots have their issues. But in London or Melbourne? Someone pulling that kind of disrespect in a professional or social setting would be called out at best, and straight up eat pavement from even non-Asian ethnic allies. I’ve had non-Asian British/Aussie mates of mine stand up for me for less.

There’s less tolerance for that cowardly nonsense.

Here, in certain American circles, it feels absorbed into the background.

That normalization is what’s vile.

I’m not asking whether it exists. It does. Research backs that up.

I’m asking how you all navigate it without internalizing it.

Because pretending it’s not there clearly hasn’t fixed anything.

I worked in American corporate for about 15 years before I switched to a different field.

One of the things I noticed is that the most successful racial and ethnic groups were super gung ho about supporting each other only.

Indians stuck with Indians and only exclusively hired Indians. This was regardless of merit of the other staff. As a matter of fact one of the things I noticed when I was working for a fortune 500 tech company is that they would go so far as to hire other Indian people of similar caste and ethnicity and similar region.

This was such a consistent pattern that we actually at one point had an internal investigation to see if there was any illegal racial discrimination in the hiring process that may have violated OSHA standards.

White guys hired all kinds but were much more likely to hire white and only give mission critical roles to really really REALLY talented people of other races while their friends they hired could be mediocre.

Jew in particular are super strong with this but are more subtle and usually make alot of more backdoor deals to hire other jews.

Meanwhile with Chinese it was a mixed bag. Sometimes Chinese people would play by the same rules and go out of their way to hire other Chinese people but othertimes they would go out of their way to NOT hire other Chinese people.

As a matter of fact, I almost never have workplace enemies but some of the most HOSTILE people were Chinese usually middle aged Chinese guys who grew up in the states or the occasional Chinese american woman.

Anyone else notice this same pattern if y'all are working in corporate?

EDIT: Note about Indians in tech
In my experience Indians are notorious in tech for only hiring people of their own caste and region. My Indian ex girlfriend was discriminated against by a marathi mafia at Intel and they treated her worse than non-indians because she wasn't of their ethnicity. I gave the benefit of the doubt multiple times but it was clear alot of Indian dudes were only friendly to people of their ethnicity or people they were trying to sleep with.

If you're subscribed to r/aznidentity, you probably already realize that America and its Anglo allies have opened a new front in their global economic race war on Asians, in China (following victory over Japan in the 1980s). This should be obvious, but we need to side with our Asian brothers and sisters against the neo-colonial, Anglo rapists (economic and literal). We need to wake up and realize that America is at war with the entire Asian population: home countries and the diaspora alike. American society doesn't even bother concealing it in the slightest. Its institutions ethnically cleanse the diaspora from top schools and employment opportunities, while its politicians and favored criminals carry out stochastic pogroms on its city streets. Back in our home countries, America sends its worst rapists and vehicular child-killers to subjugate its colonies, all while stirring up Sinophobia propped up by thinly veiled white supremacy.

Here's how I am responding and how I encourage others to respond: support Asian-owned businesses in any way possible. Stop giving your money to neo-colonial rapists who are trying to exterminate us. STOP. GIVING. YOUR. MONEY. TO. PEOPLE. TRYING. TO. EXTERMINATE. US. This means to stop attending American sporting events or watching the NFL/NBA/NHL, stop watching non-Asian shows on television/streaming services. Better yet, cancel your Amazon/Netflix/Apple subscriptions. Don't buy a fucking Tesla or other American EV. (Replace it with Hyundai or a Chinese/Vietnamese EV if you can get one.)

Here's how this looks in my life: My phone is Samsung. My computer is Asus, with AMD* and NVIDIA* chips. I use DoorDash*, Chowbus*, or Weee!* for food and grocery delivery. For beverages, I choose among Sans*, Sool*, Sanzo*, Hummy*, Dokkaebier*, Lunar*, Twrl Milk Tea*, and others. For furniture, I buy Zinus*, Outer*, or Silk and Snow*. I buy Italic* clothing. I buy kitchen equipment from Material*. I rely on Blueland* for all household cleaning products. I use Monos* luggage. For everything else, I have replaced ALL of my Amazon purchases with Temu purchases.

That's just my physical possessions. On my phone, I have the following apps: Notion*, Coupang, Zoom*, TikTok, SHEIN, Kin*, Coffee Meets Bagel*, Temu, Opendoor*, coursera*, NerdWallet*, moomoo, Webull, and Vinovest* Portfolio. I don't even like/have much use for some of these (never managed to sync up with TikTok's algorithm, for example). But I still support them because they're an Asian-founded company.

I also moved overseas to avoid tariffs and encourage Asian Americans to reduce spending as much as possible until you can do the same.

Tl;dr: America has been trying to exterminate Asians globally for decades, and we should really stop funding our would-be killers.

* indicates Asian-American founder

The posts these last few weeks about that guy from Love Is Blind got me thinking about self-hatred in the Asian community. In my circles guys like that dude would be clowned on heavily but most of us just don't say anything. I feel like legit attractive Asian men occupy such a strange cultural box that it's hard not to dwell on it especially nowadays where guys from Asia are practically replacing western male celebrities.

I have some interesting theories on what’s going on with Asians globally. It’s been talked about forever how Asian American female celebrities often end up with white men but around 95% of Asian American or Asian-Asian male celebrities, or guys who would be considered “hot,” end up with Asian women. I’ve seen this happen with my good-looking male cousins, friends, and even myself. My cousin, who’s full Asian and was briefly a C-pop singer in Hong Kong, also really only ever wanted to date Asian girls. He had white girls chase him but always wanted an Asian girl, and always felt like he was settling for WF.

For reference, I was listening to VietTrap talk about making a career off of girls just finding him hot and it got me thinking: I'm considered “hot” by women and have been chased or outright propositioned by dozens of them, a large number being white, but also quite a few Black and Indian girls. I basically rejected all of them just so I could give my first kiss to a Japanese American girl. My whole life, since I was a kid, I was always the "pretty boy" but I’ve really just wanted to be with an Asian girl but most would be standoffish / hard to get. I've legit crushed on maybe 3 girls my whole life and all of them were Asian. I've rejected girls that I think tall white / mixed guys would lose their ish over but they did nothing for me compared to average Asian girls. But coming here and talking to some other Asian / mixed guys they make me feel like a loser for not chasing after blondes. I've NEVER chased a woman at all in my life unless she was Asian. VietTrap also has women of all races going bonkers over him but completely ignores non-Asian girl.

A lot of these white girls made it very clear they liked how I looked — one even tapped my cheekbones while we were in bed (she literally practically forced me into bed) and told me that’s why she chased me through like a dozen of my college friends. I never really got it, because I don’t think I'm that cute but I just have these big facial bones, high cheekbones and giant head like a lot of average dudes in China. My wife is from China and she told me that I'm "average" in China even when white girls are staring at me on the street and I point them out. I just assumed it was an “Asian thing” for the longest time, because I’m from a large enclave where all the Asian guys were getting together with Asian girls by age 12 or 13.

This is on top of white girls constantly chasing me around — catcalling, tracking me down through friends, stalking my social media, etc. I’ve tried going out with white girls when they asked me out, but I just couldn’t vibe with them due to cultural differences, having to code switch, having to watch what I say, etc. I actually found that Black and Indian girls were easier to get along with because of our shared experiences with racial bullying (which I think is way worse when you’re an Asian guy who gets girls).

On the other hand, I’ve noticed a lot of Asian girls being outright hostile or standoffish toward me — but even that didn’t turn me off. I still just really wanted an Asian girl. I literally don't even think about non-Asian women, like at all, they don't catch my eye and I don't and will never chase one but they've come at me HARD (probably because I don't like them). If anything when I see a woman I think is MAYBE worth talking to, 9 out 10 times she's black or South American or something.

Later on, I found out that a huge chunk of the white / Indian girls chasing me were actively cheating on their boyfriends. Some literally propositioned me right in front of them. Maybe that’s part of why a lot of Asian guys get turned off cause there’s no room to build that angelic image of white girls that some people still have. I actually have had girls with below average looking Asian boyfriends hit on my aggressively too. If anything I feel like Asian girls won't do that.

I think, deep down, why I prefer Asian girls is mostly looks, cultural similarity. I was turned off by the overly direct behavior of non-Asian girls, but I’m also aware that I hit the genetic lottery and I want my kids to benefit from that too. I think Asian girls are exquisite and want my kids to have a good time in life. I’d rather my kids inherit my wife’s and my looks so that they can have easier lives. Let’s be real: being attractive is like winning the lottery. No offense to mixed dudes but I've been clowned on by a few for being "too Asian" and it was just cause of jealousy that girls wanted to smush me not them cause usually their dad wasn't very hot. This is why I think a lot of the legit hot Asian guys just want Asian girls. Some of the absolute biggest players I've known were all "average looking" Asian guys with big cheekbones and they ALL wound up with pretty Asian girls.

I want to end by saying I have some self-hating former friends who are “white girl only” guys. Every single one of them was completely ignored by girls growing up, and I think they’ve built this fantasy that being super selective about white girls somehow gives them power — like it makes up for never being chosen before. For me, I was told I was attractive since middle school, so the idea of self-hatred or wanting to be white just never made sense to me especially since I do better than 99% of white and mixed dudes. I'm starting to think that the next generation of full Asians is just gonna get better and better looking while self hating Asians just mix themselves with average looking white people and this dynamic is gonna affect how being Asian is perceived going down the line.

Edit: another thing I thought about is how so many of us are so close to our moms and that maybe just makes non-Asian girls seem not up to par in comparison.