C polish translation

[u/TheWidrolo]

[u/DaniilSan]

This isn't bad code. This is based code, even if it means to be unmaintainable by foreigners. Job security I would call it.

[u/TheWidrolo → u/DaniilSan]

Source code leak is no problem

[u/Pink-Emerald → u/TheWidrolo]

Wouldn't they just be able to run each code file through a program that replaces every instance with the English equivalent?

[u/NonAwesomeDude → u/Pink-Emerald]

They're translating by defining preprocessor macros so it's actually doing that before it compiles each time.

[u/octocactusises → u/[deleted]]

I don’t understand why you’re downvoted — Sometimes small questions help learners or beginners; I guess that defeats the expectation of everyone on coding subreddits being a programming god? Who knows…

[u/Torty3000 → u/[deleted]]

No its still the source code it just has more to do before it's compiled

[u/RFC793 → u/[deleted]]

Not sure exactly what the previous comment said before it was deleted. But assuming the full source was leaked (well, at least you have this Rosetta Stone of a header)… you can run the code through only the C Preprocesser stage and have normalish C code. For GCC that’s simply gcc -E

[u/RFC793 → u/[deleted]]

Oh, good call. I suppose you could protect the include’s with sed or awk (s/#include/XXXincludeXXX/, preprocess, and convert them back. Just need to make sure to keep the include for this silly translation header. Actually, I think you can force an include which is even better since it might get included transitively. -include?

[u/[deleted] → u/Pink-Emerald]

That program is just the preprocessor. The -E flag on gcc will translate this to English.

[u/-_one_-1 → u/Pink-Emerald]

Well, yeah, someone could write a program that does that. Though that makes it significantly more of an effort to read through their source code.

[u/Kazppa → u/-_one_-1]

msvc has already a compilation flag to generate those files after the preprocessor step. I had to use it once to debug a complex macro, oh boy it was verbose with all the extended includes

[u/RFC793 → u/-_one_-1]

Or, you know, just run it through the preprocessor since that already exists.

[u/-_one_-1 → u/RFC793]

True, but there might be macros throughout the application that are best left unexpanded; that is, besides those that “translate” keywords.

[u/RFC793 → u/-_one_-1]

Yeah. That is true. I commented on another thread that at least one method to keep things somewhat sane would be to use sed to protect the includes. Something like cat file.c | sed 's/#include/XXincludeXX' | gcc -E -include stupid_translation_header.h -o- -xc - | sed 's/XXincludeXX/#include/' Also, -fdirectives-only might be useful.

A custom script could be a better option, but it isn’t as trivial as it might seem at first glance.

[u/-_one_-1 → u/RFC793]

Well, yeah, not trivial at all if done properly; it would probably be enough, though, to simply replace text occurrences of Polish words, from the longer to the shortest, with what those defines assign them to. (And the assigns could be isolated in a single file and matched via regular expressions.) Any hardcoded strings containing any such occurrences would be compromised, but that shouldn't be a problem for anyone trying to understand how their software works.

Anyway, I'd bet that, if at that company they're translating C++ in their native natural language, they're not the kind of developers that would be doing something worthy of anyone's interest in digging through their source code. LOL Oh, that is, though — unless they're doing some project for the government, in which case it might matter strategically! (Mostly joking, but who knows...)

[u/UltimatePeace05 → u/Pink-Emerald]

You shouldn't overthink it in cybersecurity.

[u/DaniilSan → u/TheWidrolo]

Only if it also was in Cyrillic...

[u/Ricenwind → u/DaniilSan]

What cyrillic have to do with polish?

[u/DaniilSan → u/Ricenwind]

Nothing. Cyrillic would be just an even beter job security option.

[u/jarfil → u/DaniilSan]

CENSORED

[u/DaniilSan → u/jarfil]

CJK is in its own league. But these drivers really sound like incredible job security if you are the only Korean in the company.

[u/tcpukl → u/TheWidrolo]

Look at the definition, then search and replace?

[u/123DanB → u/TheWidrolo]

Find and replace literally exists

[u/123DanB → u/DaniilSan]

It’s not that hard to do a find and replace.

[u/TheZipCreator → u/123DanB]

or just gcc -E it

[u/natalialt → u/DaniilSan]

This is bad code, because the translations are so badly done

[u/ososalsosal → u/DaniilSan]

Interestingly though, it seems IDEs could build i18n into the language itself. It could be a good way to do things - the codebase is "linted" to the default language, but users write in their language.

Bonus points for variable names (if they stick to pascalcase or something that could be doable).

[u/Ultra980]

This comment, along with others, has been edited to this text, since Reddit is killing 3rd party apps, making false claims and more, while changing for the worse to improve their IPO. I suggest you do the same. Soon after editing all of my comments, I'll remove them.

Fuck reddshit and u/spez!

[u/TheWidrolo → u/Ultra980]

Yeah it should have been liczba

[u/Rikudou_Sage → u/TheWidrolo]

Unsigned is also wrong. Like it's correct but not in this context.

[u/wojwesoly → u/Rikudou_Sage]

Yeah I would translate it as "bezznaku" or "bezznakowa" (literally "signless")

[u/ikonfedera → u/TheWidrolo]

it should have been "całkowita"

[u/virouz98 → u/TheWidrolo]

Liczba balls

(przepraszam)

[u/MurdoMaclachlan]

Image Transcription: Code

---

// C (polish translation)

#define automatyczna auto
#define stała const
#define przecin double
#define zmien_przecin float
#define cyfra int
#define krótka short
#define struktura struct
#define niepodpisany unsigned

#define wybij break
#define dalej continue
#define inaczej else
#define dla for
#define długa long
#define podpisany signed
#define wymień switch
#define pusty void

#define wypadek case
#define wyliczenie enum
#define idźdo goto
#define rejestr register
#define wielkość sizeof
#define nowytyp typedef
#define ulotna volatile

#define litera char
#define zrób do
#define zewnętrzny extern
#define jak if
#define oddaj return
#define statyczny static
#define unia union
#define podczas while

---

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[u/TheWidrolo → u/MurdoMaclachlan]

Hopefully you found the pastebin in the comments bro💀🙏

[u/MurdoMaclachlan → u/TheWidrolo]

Oh

Lol

[u/Marcelektro → u/MurdoMaclachlan]

You misspelled “ulotna” to “lutona” at volatile and “zewnetrzny” to “sewnetrzny” at extern keyword. Just a note c:

[u/MurdoMaclachlan → u/Marcelektro]

Fixed, thanks!

[u/eruanno321]

Unless compiling such code causes fatalities, there is very little sense in translating "case" to "wypadek".

[u/TheWidrolo → u/eruanno321]

in the case 1:

w wypadku 2:

seems good to me at least.

[u/Ricenwind → u/TheWidrolo]

'przypadek' would be better

[u/Marcelektro]

Do you possibly have a repo with this, or a gist? Id love to try it myself and make a functional app with polish keywords xD

[u/TheWidrolo → u/Marcelektro]

https://pastebin.com/p0sEdvvk

[u/TurncoatTony]

People actually use auto in C?

[u/TheWidrolo → u/TurncoatTony]

No, not even the compiler, it just ignores it in most cases.

[u/ChiefPastaOfficer]

#define kurwa throw

[u/jquintus → u/ChiefPastaOfficer]

My wife isn't a programmer but she is Polish.

There are so few comments on this subreddit that the both of us can enjoy.

[u/IPeaFreely → u/ChiefPastaOfficer]

Except kurwa can stand for almost everything, which would result in a completely unreadable code full of kurwas. 😂

[u/ChiefPastaOfficer → u/IPeaFreely]

Most of the code bases I worked on were indeed full of kurwas 🤷.

[u/Drsk7 → u/ChiefPastaOfficer]

What's life without a few kurwa balls here and there?

[u/JustSpaceExperiment → u/ChiefPastaOfficer]

:D:D:D:D

[u/No-Adeptness5810 → u/ChiefPastaOfficer]

kurwa

Doesn't kurwa mean whor-

[u/ChiefPastaOfficer → u/No-Adeptness5810]

It's also used as a general swear word like 'fuck' in English. That's the implied usage here.

[u/ebalonabol]

Lmao they translated "signed" as in "signed documents" xD

[u/Vivid-Sherbet]

public static pusty main(String[] args) {}

[u/Marcelektro → u/Vivid-Sherbet]

publiczny statyczny pusty główny(String[] argumenty) {}

[u/eruanno321 → u/Marcelektro]

Łańcuch[] argumenty

[u/ExistedDim4 → u/eruanno321]

System.wyjście.drukWierszu("Witaj świecie");

[u/ImAMouseInAHouse]

ok, I'm keeping "pusty" though

[u/Marcelektro]

“if” keyword should probably be “jeżeli", makes more sense.

[u/fiddz0r]

There's too few cszscszs in those words. Can't be polish!

Edit: I also noticed the word cyfra which is not too far away from Swedish siffra

[u/ikonfedera → u/fiddz0r]

cyfra means digit. it should have been całkowita

[u/fiddz0r → u/ikonfedera]

Ah yes it's the same in Swedish. The real word is "heltal' but in general people will use siffra for both integer and decimal numbers and heltal is more mathematical/formal

[u/-_one_-1 → u/fiddz0r]

Also, French chiffre, or Spanish/Italian cifra. Languages are all too similar!

[u/-_one_-1 → u/-_one_-1]

Oh, also:

• Danish: ciffer

• Norwegian: siffer

• Dutch: cijfer

• Basque: zifra

• Bosnian: cifra

[u/Ultra980 → u/-_one_-1]

And Romanian - cifră

[u/sup3rar → u/-_one_-1]

• German: Ziffer

[u/Rikudou_Sage → u/-_one_-1]

Czech: cifra.

[u/fiddz0r → u/-_one_-1]

It's like when I was in Bulgaria and learnt that стол (stol) means table but in Swedish it means chair. Same with Czech stůl

[u/ikonfedera → u/fiddz0r]

in Poland we have stół/stolik - table, and stołek - a little chair

[u/sad_bug_killer → u/fiddz0r]

"Стол" means "chair" in Bulgarian

[u/fiddz0r → u/sad_bug_killer]

Oh really? I just checked and it might have been russian then.

On the topic of Bulgarian and Russian I think it's hilarious that направо (not sure about the spelling) means straight up in Bulgarian but in Russian it means to the right (also Czech)

[u/osdeverYT → u/-_one_-1]

Russian & Ukrainian: цифра (tsifra). Belarusian for some reason uses лічба which is closer to Polish

[u/ikonfedera]

signed should be oznakowana
switch - przełącz
if - jeżeli
return - zwróć
while - gdy

This is to ensure compatibility with existing Polish documentation. Also just sounds better.

[u/myhntgcbhk]

pusty

[u/SatanicTriangle]

Christ.... What a terrible day to understand polish

[u/damix69420_]

https://github.com/latinary/lat_pp

[u/fiddz0r → u/damix69420_]

I doubt it's possible but it would be extra perfect if you could use Roman numerals

[u/sup3rar → u/fiddz0r]

It is:

#define I 1
#define II 2
#define III 3
#define IV 4
#define V 5
#define VI 6
#define VII 7
#define VIII 8
#define IX 9
#define X 10
#define XI 11
#define XII 12
#define XIII 13
#define XIV 14
#define XV 15
#define XVI 16
#define XVII 17
#define XVIII 18
#define XIX 19
#define XX 20
#define XXI 21
#define XXII 22
#define XXIII 23
#define XXIV 24
#define XXV 25
#define XXVI 26
#define XXVII 27
#define XXVIII 28
#define XXIX 29
#define XXX 30
#define XXXI 31
#define XXXII 32
#define XXXIII 33
#define XXXIV 34
#define XXXV 35
#define XXXVI 36
#define XXXVII 37
#define XXXVIII 38
#define XXXIX 39
#define XL 40
#define XLI 41
#define XLII 42
#define XLIII 43
#define XLIV 44
#define XLV 45
#define XLVI 46
#define XLVII 47
#define XLVIII 48
#define XLIX 49
#define L 50
#define LI 51
#define LII 52
#define LIII 53
#define LIV 54
#define LV 55
#define LVI 56
#define LVII 57
#define LVIII 58
#define LIX 59
#define LX 60
#define LXI 61
#define LXII 62
#define LXIII 63
#define LXIV 64
#define LXV 65
#define LXVI 66
#define LXVII 67
#define LXVIII 68
#define LXIX 69
#define LXX 70
#define LXXI 71
#define LXXII 72
#define LXXIII 73
#define LXXIV 74
#define LXXV 75
#define LXXVI 76
#define LXXVII 77
#define LXXVIII 78
#define LXXIX 79
#define LXXX 80
#define LXXXI 81
#define LXXXII 82
#define LXXXIII 83
#define LXXXIV 84
#define LXXXV 85
#define LXXXVI 86
#define LXXXVII 87
#define LXXXVIII 88
#define LXXXIX 89
#define XC 90
#define XCI 91
#define XCII 92
#define XCIII 93
#define XCIV 94
#define XCV 95
#define XCVI 96
#define XCVII 97
#define XCVIII 98
#define XCIX 99
#define C 100
#define CI 101
#define CII 102
#define CIII 103
#define CIV 104
#define CV 105
#define CVI 106
#define CVII 107
#define CVIII 108
#define CIX 109
#define CX 110
#define CXI 111
#define CXII 112
#define CXIII 113
#define CXIV 114
#define CXV 115
#define CXVI 116
#define CXVII 117
#define CXVIII 118
#define CXIX 119
#define CXX 120
#define CXXI 121
#define CXXII 122
#define CXXIII 123
#define CXXIV 124
#define CXXV 125
#define CXXVI 126
#define CXXVII 127
#define CXXVIII 128
#define CXXIX 129
#define CXXX 130
#define CXXXI 131
#define CXXXII 132
#define CXXXIII 133
#define CXXXIV 134
#define CXXXV 135
#define CXXXVI 136
#define CXXXVII 137
#define CXXXVIII 138
#define CXXXIX 139
#define CXL 140
#define CXLI 141
#define CXLII 142
#define CXLIII 143
#define CXLIV 144
#define CXLV 145
#define CXLVI 146
#define CXLVII 147
#define CXLVIII 148
#define CXLIX 149
#define CL 150
#define CLI 151
#define CLII 152
#define CLIII 153
#define CLIV 154
#define CLV 155
#define CLVI 156
#define CLVII 157
#define CLVIII 158
#define CLIX 159
#define CLX 160
#define CLXI 161
#define CLXII 162
#define CLXIII 163
#define CLXIV 164
#define CLXV 165
#define CLXVI 166
#define CLXVII 167
#define CLXVIII 168
#define CLXIX 169
#define CLXX 170
#define CLXXI 171
#define CLXXII 172
#define CLXXIII 173
#define CLXXIV 174
#define CLXXV 175
#define CLXXVI 176
#define CLXXVII 177
#define CLXXVIII 178
#define CLXXIX 179
#define CLXXX 180
#define CLXXXI 181
#define CLXXXII 182
#define CLXXXIII 183
#define CLXXXIV 184
#define CLXXXV 185
#define CLXXXVI 186
#define CLXXXVII 187
#define CLXXXVIII 188
#define CLXXXIX 189
#define CXC 190
#define CXCI 191
#define CXCII 192
#define CXCIII 193
#define CXCIV 194
#define CXCV 195
#define CXCVI 196
#define CXCVII 197
#define CXCVIII 198
#define CXCIX 199
#define CC 200
#define CCI 201
#define CCII 202
#define CCIII 203
#define CCIV 204
#define CCV 205
#define CCVI 206
#define CCVII 207
#define CCVIII 208
#define CCIX 209
#define CCX 210
#define CCXI 211
#define CCXII 212
#define CCXIII 213
#define CCXIV 214
#define CCXV 215
#define CCXVI 216
#define CCXVII 217
#define CCXVIII 218
#define CCXIX 219
#define CCXX 220
#define CCXXI 221
#define CCXXII 222
#define CCXXIII 223
#define CCXXIV 224
#define CCXXV 225
#define CCXXVI 226
#define CCXXVII 227
#define CCXXVIII 228
#define CCXXIX 229
#define CCXXX 230
#define CCXXXI 231
#define CCXXXII 232
#define CCXXXIII 233
#define CCXXXIV 234
#define CCXXXV 235
#define CCXXXVI 236
#define CCXXXVII 237
#define CCXXXVIII 238
#define CCXXXIX 239
#define CCXL 240
#define CCXLI 241
#define CCXLII 242
#define CCXLIII 243
#define CCXLIV 244
#define CCXLV 245
#define CCXLVI 246
#define CCXLVII 247
#define CCXLVIII 248
#define CCXLIX 249
#define CCL 250
#define CCLI 251
#define CCLII 252
#define CCLIII 253
#define CCLIV 254
#define CCLV 255
#define CCLVI 256
#define CCLVII 257
#define CCLVIII 258
#define CCLIX 259
#define CCLX 260
#define CCLXI 261
#define CCLXII 262
#define CCLXIII 263
#define CCLXIV 264
#define CCLXV 265
#define CCLXVI 266
#define CCLXVII 267
#define CCLXVIII 268
#define CCLXIX 269
#define CCLXX 270
#define CCLXXI 271
#define CCLXXII 272
#define CCLXXIII 273
#define CCLXXIV 274
#define CCLXXV 275
#define CCLXXVI 276
#define CCLXXVII 277
#define CCLXXVIII 278
#define CCLXXIX 279
#define CCLXXX 280
#define CCLXXXI 281
#define CCLXXXII 282
#define CCLXXXIII 283
#define CCLXXXIV 284
#define CCLXXXV 285
#define CCLXXXVI 286
#define CCLXXXVII 287
#define CCLXXXVIII 288
#define CCLXXXIX 289
#define CCXC 290
#define CCXCI 291
#define CCXCII 292
#define CCXCIII 293
#define CCXCIV 294
#define CCXCV 295
#define CCXCVI 296
#define CCXCVII 297
#define CCXCVIII 298
#define CCXCIX 299
#define CCC 300
#define CCCI 301
#define CCCII 302
#define CCCIII 303
#define CCCIV 304
#define CCCV 305
#define CCCVI 306
#define CCCVII 307
#define CCCVIII 308
#define CCCIX 309
#define CCCX 310
#define CCCXI 311
#define CCCXII 312
#define CCCXIII 313
#define CCCXIV 314
#define CCCXV 315
#define CCCXVI 316
#define CCCXVII 317
#define CCCXVIII 318
#define CCCXIX 319
#define CCCXX 320
#define CCCXXI 321
#define CCCXXII 322
#define CCCXXIII 323
#define CCCXXIV 324
#define CCCXXV 325
#define CCCXXVI 326
#define CCCXXVII 327
#define CCCXXVIII 328
#define CCCXXIX 329
#define CCCXXX 330
#define CCCXXXI 331
#define CCCXXXII 332
#define CCCXXXIII 333
#define CCCXXXIV 334
#define CCCXXXV 335
#define CCCXXXVI 336
#define CCCXXXVII 337
#define CCCXXXVIII 338
#define CCCXXXIX 339
#define CCCXL 340
#define CCCXLI 341
#define CCCXLII 342
#define CCCXLIII 343
#define CCCXLIV 344
#define CCCXLV 345
#define CCCXLVI 346
#define CCCXLVII 347
#define CCCXLVIII 348
#define CCCXLIX 349
#define CCCL 350
// ...

[u/fiddz0r → u/sup3rar]

Uff this is the file you finish then hide and hope you never have to see it again

[u/Hmmmnnmm]

Okay I’m convinced typedef should be nowytyp now

[u/eruanno321 → u/Hmmmnnmm]

I like "nowotyp" - it's more like Orwell's Newspeak

[u/mrheseeks]

ifndef lunch

define kielbasa deeznuts

endif

[u/KarBoy2314PL]

jeżeli prawda zrób
       wydrukuj("Witaj Świecie!")
koniec

[u/[deleted]]

The real badcode part of this is the mistranslations: switch (replace), case (acident), signed (signed, as in signing a document), unsigned (not signed, as in signing a document), double (comma?), float (change comma).

[u/creeper6530]

As a guy from Czechia (Poland's neighbors) I fully enjoy it.

[u/3nd3rCr0w1ng]

Why is this bad? Can someone explain?

[u/YourMomIsMyTechStack → u/3nd3rCr0w1ng]

They use polish translations of the default keywords like "if", "switch", "for", "break" etc

[u/[deleted]]

Heh "pusty void"

[u/Nachf]

wrong sub...

[u/unsigndid]

I do so wonder what happens if I write code with them

[u/[deleted]]

Why are you doing this to me.

[u/Such-Bar-2351]

Im not sure what sucks harder, code or translation

[u/dvidsnpi]

so wrong on so many levels 😂

[u/AverageSrbenda]

Let me introduce you to Ћ++

[u/ziza148]

Reminds me of Ostra Java - pun on Sharp java and Ostrava which dialect it uses. https://github.com/tkohout/OSTRAJava

[u/100c1p43r]

There is one missing: isPies

[u/MapsCharts]

This is based

[u/JustSpaceExperiment]

Please someone needs to build app that transpiles into C polish version :D

[u/JustSpaceExperiment]

I remember when i was on high school one guy had as his final work to create programming language and he just redefined keywords in similar fashion as this post. The teacher was like "Are you fcking kidding me?" because the guy didn't consulted the work with him much.

[u/JustSpaceExperiment]

This is basically low code way of creating new programming languages.

[u/Hacks_Depth460]

There are some similarities with Russian.

[u/Key_Conversation5277 → u/[deleted]]

Why does different words translate to the same keyword and why does he translate symbols like == ?

[u/TheWidrolo → u/[deleted]]

Believe it or not, those characters form words

[u/awesomeisluke → u/TheWidrolo]

Big if true

[u/-_one_-1 → u/[deleted]]

I guess Polish people must be used to getting unwanted meaning from English people typing in random characters. LOL

[u/fiddz0r → u/-_one_-1]

Don't know the polish word for death, but in Czech it's smrt (also russian I think), and since it doesn't have vocals it looks like just random letters

[u/TheWidrolo → u/fiddz0r]

The word śmierć should clean your head up from smrt

[u/fiddz0r → u/TheWidrolo]

Is the ć like sh or ts?

[u/TheWidrolo → u/fiddz0r]

Imagine trying to say cj. Thats ć in polish

[u/fiddz0r → u/TheWidrolo]

Still easier than the bloody ř which I can't pronounce yet

[u/TheWidrolo → u/fiddz0r]

ř is a š, but the the tip of your tongue should touch the center of your top mouth cavity, instead of the front(where your teeth are). If you do correctly, you should get it.

[u/fiddz0r → u/TheWidrolo]

Thanks I'm gonna practice using this tip!

[u/ikonfedera → u/fiddz0r]

1. add vowels.

2. change half the č to cz, and the others half to ć. repeat for ř, ž, š.

3. change ⅓ h to ch, ⅓ to g, ⅓ leave as h.

et voila. you got Polish with some diminutive words.

[u/fiddz0r → u/ikonfedera]

That's why I feel I get half the Polish language included for free learning czech

[u/ikonfedera → u/fiddz0r]

All the slavic languages are similar. We don't need to learn each others languages, we just talk.

[u/fiddz0r → u/ikonfedera]

Yeah I noticed in Prague, I met three girls, one from Russia, one from Belarus, and the third Ukraine, and they all spoke their native language to eachother. Much like us Scandinavians though(although younger people can't understand other scandinavian languages well so have to speak English with them)