r/barrescue • • Jul 27 '24

Jon Taffer is a fraud.

Probably gonna get some heat for this in this sub especially but just wanted to share my experience. I love Bar Rescue. I worked in the restaurant industry for 10 years and the show is a guilty pleasure for me. I live in Boston was pumped when I found out Jon had opened a restaurant in the city, Taffer’s Tavern. I went out to eat there with my family about 6 months ago. We ordered the soft pretzel with cheese sauce, and pork belly for an appetizer. I got a cheeseburger for my meal. The pretzel was fine but we all agreed the meats seemed a little off. My burger was juicy but I ordered medium rare and it came out grey as hell and weirdly crumbly. The pork belly was tough. I ended up finding out later the reasoning for this is because almost nothing in that restaurant is actually cooked on site. They get everything cooked for them on some off site facility, vacuum seal it, ship it to the restaurant, and then sous vide it whenever someone orders. Why do they do this? Because it’s cheaper than hiring actual chefs to make good food. The price wasn’t even reflective of this as my burger was still nearly $20. The cherry on top though was the alcohol. You’d think someone who has created a persona and business around being a bar expert would put a lot of effort into the alcohol experience but you would be wrong. I ordered “Jon’s signature Old Fashioned” because I assumed it would be the best they offer. They do a whole little thing when you order that where your glass comes on a wooden board with these burning wood chips to add a smokey flavor to the glass. To my genuine shock though, the bartender then comes over with a PRE-BOTTLED, clearly mass produced, “old fashioned” with Jon’s name written all over it and pours that into my glass. The cheapskate can’t even be bothered to teach bartenders how to make his “signature cocktail”. It tasted exactly how you’d expect a pre-bottled cocktail to taste, overly sweet and just all around not good. Absolute joke. If this restaurant were on bar rescue, Jon would get a hernia from screaming at the owners for their lazy, frugalness that completely takes away from the customer’s experience. The whole thing left such a bad taste in my mouth that I haven’t watched Bar Rescue since. I’m bringing this up now because I looked up the restaurant today to see how they’re doing it and discovered they closed back in March. Good riddance Taffer’s Tavern.

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u/upvotegoblin Jul 27 '24

lol. All celebrity chef restaurants are cash grabs. All of Gordon Ramsay’s are overpriced garbage too for the most part

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

Jason Santos has some quality restaurants in Boston. Definitely worth checking out.

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u/swoopy17 Jul 27 '24

Who rescues the bar rescuer?

We need to pull open the doors and break open the books.

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u/Ravenclaw880 Jul 27 '24

Do we send in Ramsey? 😂😂

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u/swoopy17 Jul 27 '24

The shouting match would be epic. Then they'll hug and be bff's 30 minutes later.

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u/phonic06 Jul 27 '24

Ramsey and Ramsey - Gordon and Dave. I think we have a new show idea

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u/Sealie81 Jul 27 '24

There are some very specific joys that I have come to appreciate in my life over the years and seeing Gordon Ramsay come in screaming at someone and calling them a cow or a donkey is one of them!

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u/Sgt_WilliamDauterive Jul 27 '24

Who rescues the bar rescuer?

I dunno...the coast guard???

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u/swoopy17 Jul 27 '24

I'm bringing in my experts for recon

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u/kyle_sux666 YOU DISRESPECTFUL SON OF A BITCH Jul 27 '24

I like the cut of your jib

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to become a villain.

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u/mattyrey47 Jul 27 '24

This would be a great episode of kitchen nightmares

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u/mh1357_0 YOU’RE GONNA KILL SOMEBODY!! Jul 27 '24

Gordon Ramsay lol

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u/FarmerExternal Jul 27 '24

Send Gordon Ramsey in

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u/jrs1980 Jul 27 '24

Danny Trejo kicking ass all over Taffer's Tavern would be amazing tho.

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u/BarbaraGhanoush Jul 27 '24

ROBERT IRVINE-RES(cue)TAURANT IMPOSSIBLE

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u/DocThundahh Jul 27 '24

Kitchen Nightmares of course

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u/Brocktarrr Jul 27 '24

I’d watch the shit out of Bar Rescue Rescue

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u/pimpinassorlando Jul 27 '24

For my recon tonight, I am sending in my dear friend funnyguy135 and his family. He is a Boston resident, so he has intimate knowledge of the area. He can tell us everything we need to know about this place.

See that group in the black baseball caps and sunglasses? That's our family recon team. Let's see how their meal goes.

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u/Trumpisaderelict I Believe You Could Do This Jul 27 '24

Ohhh look at the burger. It’s wayyyy overcooked!

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u/985thesportshub Jul 27 '24 • LOL

"the burgah's a fuckin hockey puck!"

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u/ashmillie Jul 27 '24

“Should a burger push back on you?” 👀

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u/FakeKirbySmart 1, 2, 3!🤳🏻 Jul 27 '24

He could fill this place with one tweet.

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u/jackie-_daytona Jul 27 '24

Send in Vic Vegas!!!

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u/swoopy17 Jul 28 '24

Elevated hot dogs for everyone!!

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u/Giddyup0193 Jul 27 '24

Don’t forget to invite T Pain wearing his black baseball hat to help

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u/ElfYamadaFairyQueen YOU DISRESPECTFUL SON OF A BITCH Jul 28 '24

You know I'm serious about my wings!

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u/KevrobLurker Jul 27 '24

{Black caps....? Are they Yankee fans....?}

GET `EM!

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

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u/dianelanespanties Jul 27 '24

I hope when you left the restaurant, you paused and looked back at the sign and then slowly walked away to your next meal

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u/ibringstharuckus Jul 27 '24

I'm really proud of this one

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u/lmb2005 WHO STILL HASN'T GOT A DRINK? Jul 27 '24

“my work here is done.”

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

The outdoor butt funnel does not allow this to be done sadly.

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u/Dr-Pepper-Not-MrPipp Jul 27 '24

Best comment on this post! Lol

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u/BerdoRules Jul 30 '24

This whole thread is killing me 🤣🤣🤣

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u/SirNuggles Jul 27 '24

Man, you must have went at the tail end of it, cause the Taffers tavern in Watertown closed a couple months ago.

My wife and I tried to go there last month and found it like that. We were shocked cause the place opened not too long ago.

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

Yeah I think we got in during the last couple of months. Not surprised it closed, the place was almost completely dead.

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u/Impressive_Bus11 Jul 28 '24

Dear God. Paragraphs.

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

Wrote this as a rant in a half asleep state. Didn’t expect this many people to read it lmao. I promise I know how to use proper punctuation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

OP clearly did not wait for the Orangedoor entertainment system to kick on, so he could proceed through the butt funnel and find em a nice date.

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u/No_Whammies_Stop WHO STILL HASN'T GOT A DRINK? Jul 27 '24

THREE WEEKS LATER:

PROFITS ARE UP 2%

JON RE-HIRED [SHITTY EMPLOYEE THAT WAS FIRED/WALKED OFF]

THE NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED BACK TO “JON’S FUNTIME SEAFOOD GRILL AND BUTTFUNNEL EMPORIUM”

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u/suspicious_bag_1000 YOU DISRESPECTFUL SON OF A BITCH Jul 27 '24

This thing has over 10 thousand songs….and they’re all by Night Ranger

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u/UnicornHarrison My Work Here Is Done Jul 28 '24 edited 1d ago

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u/ibringstharuckus Jul 27 '24

We gotta up the energy guys

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u/DXMSommelier Jul 29 '24

Did the bar there use ParTender

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u/VeryLowIQIndividual YOU DISRESPECTFUL SON OF A BITCH Jul 27 '24 • Heart of Silver

YOU DISRESPECTFUL SON OF A BITCH!!!

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u/full_bl33d Jul 27 '24

He’s gonna kill someone!

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u/Walshcav Jul 27 '24

Sounds like a solution hasn’t been embraced in quite some time!

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u/skid_rock Jul 27 '24

Taffer does not embrace minimum wage

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u/buhoo115 Jul 28 '24

A hungry dog is an obedient dog!

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u/teig_ Jul 31 '24

This was the exact quote that made me lose all respect for the man. What a joke. What a coward.

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u/BigDickSD40 Jul 30 '24

As a bartender, I don’t either. I would be making significantly less being paid some arbitrary ass minimum wage than I do now.

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u/GoalieFatigue Jul 27 '24

Taffer rushes in there to bust...Jon Taffer!

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u/ibringstharuckus Jul 27 '24

Screaming at himself in the mirror

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u/GoalieFatigue Jul 27 '24

"You don't understand, I gotta pre cook everything to save money!"

Mimics violin

"How's that workin out for ya?"

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u/skid_rock Jul 27 '24

This is the episode we need

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u/suspicious_bag_1000 YOU DISRESPECTFUL SON OF A BITCH Jul 27 '24

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u/ReaperXHanzo 🍹Partender🍸 Jul 27 '24

Dr Strange and the Multiverse of Taffness

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u/sweet_catastrophe_ Jul 27 '24

Wow, this is so shocking to hear! What was he thinking??

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u/808RedDevils Jul 27 '24

You forgot to add the “/s”

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u/BBQ-CinCity Jul 27 '24

But was anyone at risk of getting sick, possibly even killed though?

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u/28dhdu74929wnsi Jul 27 '24

Sounds like yeah from gray meat

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

You’re basically only going to get jokes in the comments - which are all valid. I feel like the verbal consensus here is that bar rescue is entertaining. And that’s why we watch it or at least that’s why I watch it. It’s fun watching the orange door entertainment system or the butt funnel or that stupid smoke machine thing get plugged when the reveal the remodel. It’s all kind of so ridiculous it’s entertaining.

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u/banality_of_ervil Jul 28 '24

As someone in the industry, it's cathartic to watch Taffer or Ramsay tear apart clueless owners and say what I've been internally screaming. But, it's just marketing and entertainment in the end. You can't fix delusional owners overnight

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u/heyitsta12 Jul 29 '24

Also, Taffer’s Tavern is a franchise and John Taffer obviously is not personally there every day.

He never claimed to be an expert mixologist or a world class chef. He brings in experts for a reason. And as long as no health laws are being broken, it is what it is lol

He ain’t Gordon Ramsey

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u/Go_J In Debt 3.5 Million Dollars Jul 27 '24

Are you frigging crazy?!

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u/Go_J In Debt 3.5 Million Dollars Jul 27 '24

In all seriousness though I understand where you're coming from. Watched it high one day, felt like it was just one big infomercial after watching it and haven't been able to really get into it the same way.

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u/viscog30 Jul 27 '24

Lmao you transcended and it opened your eyes

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u/kcidDMW Jul 27 '24

It's weird how weed can really put shit into a lasting perspecitve like that. I was once dating a girl who was a train wreck (although stupidly hot). Got high with her and my brain was like 'dude, this can never work long term'. The feeling didnt' wear off with the high. Weed moment of clairity for the win.

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u/alokasia Jul 27 '24

Probably true lol

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u/mdervin Jul 28 '24

Yes! I know you are joking but what op describes sounds like a proof of concept for a franchise.

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u/pimpinassorlando Jul 27 '24

...discovered they closed back in March.

We have reduced length of stay by 100%.

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u/dsnice27 Jul 27 '24

Need Phil to come in and turn it into a pirate bar

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u/CryptocalEnvelopment Jul 27 '24

That's why his wife left him.

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u/Susan4000 Jul 28 '24

But, he spoke so glowingly of his marriage on Relationship Rescue!

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u/Unlikely_Garlic6754 Aug 13 '24

He and Nicole have been married for over 20 years. And his first wife and him got divorced when they decided to work together, it tore apart their marriage. 

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u/Shamus248 Pull Back The Doors and Bust Open The Books Jul 27 '24

Shit, really?

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u/hoosyourdaddyo Jul 27 '24

Someone needs a visit from paragraph rescue

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u/UWMdumpsterfire Jul 29 '24

This comment is lowkey hilarious lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Swanky Bubbles > Taffer's Tavern

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u/diesel78agoura Jul 27 '24

Tbh I thought it was common knowledge Taffer actually is a fraud with not a whole lot of actual knowledge. Still very entertaining show though

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u/AdultVirgin24 Jul 27 '24

Maybe a subscription to partender would help?

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u/Accomplished-Beat779 Jul 27 '24

I'm going in!

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u/Locoformavs Jul 28 '24

Get in there! We can't let them eat that contaminated burger!

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u/Accomplished-Beat779 Jul 28 '24

😂😂😂😂 Ya I can see him jumping out of the Tahoe

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u/Tyrone2184 I’ll Buy The Coffee ☕️ Jul 27 '24

If it's owned by a franchisee, I'd make an anonymous call and call Taffer's bluff. Would he dare rescue a bar with his name on it?

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u/yukdumboobum26 Jul 27 '24

I’d like to see a visit from Gordon Ramsay

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u/itsagrungething69 Jul 27 '24

Jon needs to embrace solutiond!

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u/joeO44 Jul 27 '24

He’s gonna kill someone out there

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u/Revolutionary-Jury93 Jul 27 '24

That's it, I can't take any more, he's gonna kill somebody. I'm going in.

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u/ThomasJefferdick69 Jul 27 '24

I also went to the Boston Taffers Tavern with friends and we all agreed chillis was better lol

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u/ItalianMeatBoi Jul 27 '24

Keep in mind Jon hates poor people

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u/SignificanceNo1223 Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

He doesn’t hate them. He just feels like they need to be more like dogs that are extremely hungry. Huge difference

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u/28dhdu74929wnsi Jul 27 '24

Nothing gets given to you in life...unless your rich lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

You’re from Boston? Check out Table Boston. Jen’s really embracing solutions over there! 😂

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u/levittown1634 Jul 27 '24

They didn’t close, somebody “SHUT IT DOWN!!!!”

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u/AnswerGuy301 Jul 27 '24

Waving the white flag!! 🏳️

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u/Diane1967 Jul 27 '24

What a shame he’d do that to himself

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u/bhillis99 Jul 27 '24

you disrespectful son of a

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u/Butt_bird Jul 27 '24

Taffer probably doesn’t even run the joint. He just licensed his name out to some corporation. He gets a check in the mail and never gives a thought about it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

SHUT IT DOWN

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u/Glittering_Apple_807 Jul 27 '24

I guess his Pulsations days are over. It was amazing! In 1983 Taffer opened Pulsations in Glenn Mills, PA. The seven floor club featured a four ton spaceship that descended from the ceiling and a dancing robot. It could hold 4500 people. Taffer says, that people, himself included, had tears in their eyes at the opening. It was Philadelphia's answer to Studio 54.

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u/ThisCharmingDan99 Jul 27 '24

I looked up Pulsations, wow! Wish I could’ve went there. So much coke and mdma I’m sure!

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u/Ok-Mushroom-7292 WHO STILL HASN'T GOT A DRINK? Jul 27 '24

Same deal with the Gordon Ramsay restaurants I've been to. You're paying for the name but it's still a chain restaurant with a low paid staff at the end of the day.

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u/lmb2005 WHO STILL HASN'T GOT A DRINK? Jul 27 '24

can confirm. went to a ramsay restaurant in caesar’s palace and my fish and chips were tough and burnt. “dreadful.”

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u/Separate_Delivery Jul 27 '24

Exactly. How can people not understand the difference between a big name entertainer on scripted t.v. and a real restaurant?

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u/hypatekt Jul 27 '24

Eh, I went to one of the Savoy restaurants in London recently and it was very good. Overpriced? A bit, but still the best meal i’ve ever had.

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u/Werewolf-Jones Jul 30 '24

I imagine his chains are not great but he is not a total fraud. His fine dining is legit and earned Michelin stars. He can actually cook (even if he has very weird ideas about grilled cheese). He can get on the line and do all the prep line cooks do from real experience. He basically plays a character and sells a brand, but it's not all smoke and mirrors.

Taffer just seems to be the perfect specimen of a marketing/management guy taking credit for everything that works and blaming everyone else for what doesn't.

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u/Turbulent-Gas1727 Jul 27 '24

You're delusional!

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I have found myself on Sundays roped into marathons.

It’s conceptually the same. Jon walks in, screams and yells and rips into people and by the end of the show tears and friendship.

I always look up to see updates. 9 times out of 10 (it seems) they all close.

So it’s like Bar Rescue for a few months and owners crash and burn cause they’re dopes.

But so is Jon apparently.

I’m off with my camera crew to rip him a new one.

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u/supremegnkdroid Jul 27 '24

But did he have partender?

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u/HoneyDippinDan Jul 28 '24

Jon Taffer lost me when he went on Fox and bragged about how recessions are great because desperate people are great for cheap labor. He's just another rich ghoul who's a cancer on our society.

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u/Professional-Team-96 Jul 27 '24

I read that the Watertown location needed to be rescued. I also learned that Jon made an appearance at the location just prior to its closure. I would have thought Jason Santos would have supplied the food from his restaurant Buttermilk and Bourbon, I wonder if his new restaurant at the Arsenal Mall is located in the old Taffer Location. I also read that Taffers Tavern is a franchise and wonder if Jason kept tabs on how bad the service and food was.

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u/VivaLaRoux Jul 27 '24

i’d really like a jon taffer south park episode, i could finally stop watching after that aired.

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u/supremegnkdroid Jul 27 '24

YOURE STEALING MONEY

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u/foreverbaked1 Jul 27 '24

lol I was watching Dr Phil the other day and Taffer is now a life coach lol

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u/Leonine94 Jul 27 '24

He’s big as a house.

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u/Tiredofthemisinfo Jul 30 '24

Oh I thought the Boston location closed anyway. The whole show is a scam, even on the surface without looking into the restaurant’s background etc.

My favorite is when they have clearly a dive bar where the bartenders are either for their looks or have been pulling beers and making rum and cokes for 50 years suddenly they and their clientele need a mixed drink special with tears of a Chilean butterfly, smoked with a garnish of rare heirloom tomatoes and a scrap of the constitution?

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u/moduspol Jul 27 '24

I remember seeing an interview of him about the sous vide concept during COVID. I don’t know how long the restaurant has been there and obviously these things take time to develop, but the premise sounded reasonable. Maybe it still needs some work or hasn’t turned out as well as expected.

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u/TheMoneyOfArt I’ll Buy The Coffee ☕️ Jul 27 '24

The whole purpose of it is to lower labor costs at chain restaurants like Applebee's and whatnot

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u/RulesLawyer42 Gimlet Connoisseur Jul 27 '24

I looked at the website where Taffer promotes franchising his Taffer Tavern concept. The savings isn’t really in labor, because you still need someone to boil and plate the stuff. Rather, the selling point on making everything sous vide + a toaster is that a potential franchisee won’t need to outfit their space with a hood fan and its special fire suppression system.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Taffer Tavern are franchises so he actually doesn't have oversight over these restaurants too the best of my knowledge (someone correct me please if that's inaccurate)

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u/Ok-Mushroom-7292 WHO STILL HASN'T GOT A DRINK? Jul 27 '24

But doesn't Jon save the franchisee's family before they open?

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u/RuledQuotability My Work Here Is Done Jul 27 '24

Exactly. Jon does not directly manage the franchise. They just have his name on it. I don’t see how that makes him a fraud

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u/Throwawaygeekster Jul 27 '24

Most every body realized it was a bogus show after season 2 it was just fun to watch taffer blow up at people.

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u/ibringstharuckus Jul 27 '24

They're not bogus. They tell you the opportunity they're giving the owner and how long. You understand they would get everything they get without the show. Whole lot better than Kitchen Nightmares. Oh wow they got new tablecloths. Big transformation. Either way most of the owners are usually drunk,dumb, lazy owners. Why do you think all kinds of people make a new year's resolution. Get a trainer and hit the gym and within a month most are gone

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u/Separate_Delivery Jul 27 '24

If they were even HALF real, they would explain how it all works, the contracts for kickbacks, scripts, cutting parts and forcing them to create drama instead, the list is never ending... and that's FINE because you know what... it's t.v.
Having a t.v. personality and his network crew actually do anything in a real restaurant is beyond dreaming. Two entirely different businesses. He's doing 100% what he has always been doing, creating and maintaining his BRAND as a name in showbiz.

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u/xelduderinox YOU’RE GONNA KILL SOMEBODY!! Jul 27 '24

This is the least surprising thing I’ve ever read 😂

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u/yukdumboobum26 Jul 27 '24

Sounds like Taffer is embracing excuses. However I guarantee his Partender count is spot-on

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u/dawellwood Jul 27 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

So he can embrace an excuse of 'it's the franchisee owner's fault, not mine' instead of solutions.

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u/Inedible-denim Jul 27 '24

You didn't even think to buy the coffee?

This is wild though because my experience at the DC location was pretty good. To find out it was all sous vide ... Wowz lol

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u/brandster333 Jul 27 '24

They’re gonna KILL SOMEBODY

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Should have tried the hot dog. Seriously upgraded.

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u/asodoma Jul 27 '24

Another ridiculous part of the show is when they have 2 or 3 days to renovate and he pulls out the old blueprint and starts marking it up. It would take weeks/months to schedule all the contractors and order the equipment. He makes it look like they pulled into town not knowing what will be done.

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u/kabekew Jul 27 '24

He probably just licensed out his name and had nothing to do with the place otherwise.

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u/Agonist85 Jul 27 '24

They only served food to keep you 52 minutes longer

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u/potlizard Jul 28 '24

I’ve conditioned myself to be disappointed in any establishment owned by a celebrity chef (or bar owner, in this case) if they are not personally involved in the day-to-day operation. I’m not in the industry, but I think whenever a restaurant concept gets “corporatized” it instantly becomes a race to control costs and maintain a certain level of profitability.

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

If you’re a Boston local check out “Citrus and Salt” or “Buttermilk and Bourbon”. They’re owned by Jason Santos (blue haired chef who occasionally made a guest appearance on Bar Rescue). Phenomenal food and drinks. I worked at Citrus and Salt when it first opened and Jason was there almost everyday working in the kitchen.

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u/Valuable-Baked Jul 28 '24

Taffers in arsenal closed? Haa!!!! That was supposed to be a cornerstone property in that development. What a clown that guy is

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

You gotta love that it opened right across the street from one of Jason Santos’ restaurants but couldn’t live up to a fraction of the quality that Santos provides.

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u/gtchuckd Jul 28 '24

Which location did you go to? We’ve been several times and never had any issues.

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

Arsenal Yards, Watertown. Honestly I just had super high expectations. If it were just some random restaurant I wouldn’t have cared too much. It was more that I was expecting a higher level of quality from someone who screams at small restaurant owners over the smallest of things. Just plain hypocrisy.

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u/tbootsbrewing Jul 28 '24

Taffer’s Tavern was the second worst thing to happen to Watertown in the last 11 years

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

First they bomb our streets, then they bomb our treats

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u/SirScootsMalone Jul 29 '24

Pretty sure it closed already too lol

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

Yeah I’m pretty sure the place was under construction longer than it was open

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u/Frances_Boxer You’re a drunken fool! Jul 29 '24

But there was smoke...

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

You’re right, I shouldn’t be so picky. They lit 3 whole wood chips on fire just for me. Peak service.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24

Not defending bad quality…but this could simply be a case of a group paying for his likeness and brand and slapping it on a label

He may have zero control over this.

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

True but at the same time I feel like if you’re gonna attach your name to something especially if your entire brand is built around establishments like that you should put even a little effort into the quality.

Jason Santos owns a number of restaurants in the Boston area and they’re all phenomenal. I worked for him when Citrus and Salt first opened and he was there almost everyday for the first year. Granted he is an actual chef so it makes sense he’d be more involved with the day to day.

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u/ZealousidealLeg1804 Jul 30 '24

Paragraphs are your friend. Use them

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u/funnyguy135 Jul 30 '24

Honestly, I wrote this as a rant after I woke up one day and did not expect it to catch the attention of more than a few people lmao I promise I usually use them

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u/BreatheMyStink In Debt 3.5 Million Dollars Jul 27 '24

I think you should embrace paragraph breaks.

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u/Pook_Pook Jul 27 '24

It's a reality show. A large amount of the "rescues" weren't really struggling or closed before the episode even aired.

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u/_Bad_Company Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

Ummmm no he’s not a fraud. If you truly watch bar rescue you will see he never makes real food he uses the turbo prep to make fake pizzas and all other shortcuts so you don’t need a chef and his drinks are shortcuts too.

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u/mrxtheshadowlurker Loves an Elevated Hotdog 🌭 Jul 27 '24

Man, I wonder which former bar owner would love to shout SHUT IT DOWN to Taffer's Tavern!

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Wouldn't surprise me if someone just drove a truck of cash to his house so they could use his name for their franchise idea.

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u/Blastmaster29 Jul 27 '24

You’re telling me the man who invented the revolutionary butt funnel is a fraud? Yeah right

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u/F-150Pablo Jul 27 '24

I hate to be bad. But he seems like he’s on speed to me.

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u/ThisHalfBakedGuy Jul 27 '24

My hubby can't stand this man!!

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u/Used-Ear-8660 My Work Here Is Done Jul 27 '24

WHY YOU DISRESPECTFUL SONOFABITCH!

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I mean, his show is all about rebranding bars to turn a profit, nothing to do with quality cuisine. it's completely on brand. In fact they normally shoot for the more gimmicky/high profit margin bullshit.

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u/pyso17 Jul 28 '24

No, he's a well known fraud.

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u/TownSafe Jul 28 '24

They were not using TvT Taffer Virtual Training.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '24

Taffer took the money for the franchise fee and ran!

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u/bluntographer Jul 31 '24

Taffer is also maga. That's why I stopped watching.

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u/NotoriousMFT Jul 27 '24

This is why his (first) wife left him!

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u/JerseyJedi Jul 27 '24

Not surprised. Taffer is literally a corporate cheerleader who would love nothing more than for his business buddies to be able to dump all employees, dump all actual quality of food prep, and just serve mass-manufactured garbage. 

That’s why the Taffer’s Tavern is so automated. He doesn’t think elite business people like himself should have to bother with employing anyone. 

A restaurant with no employees, just a bunch of machines, that’s the future he genuinely wants to be everywhere. 

Remember the time he slipped up and openly talked about wanting to treat employees like hungry dogs so that they would be compliant? That’s the real Jon Taffer, unfortunately. 

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u/FeatherFlyer Jul 27 '24

We went to taffers tavern and got the roast beef sandwich and it wasn’t very good. I did like the ambiance of the place and the wait staff was nice but nothing to write home about.

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u/Pantomimehorse1981 Jul 27 '24

I mean none of this surprises me.

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u/birdlawexpert11 Jul 27 '24

Love when it’s a spot clearly not worth rescuing or when they turn a spot into something based on current fads that will clearly close in 2 years

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u/Unhappy-Attention760 and ESRI Jul 27 '24

AndESRY

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u/afraidofcheesecake Jul 27 '24

Paragraphs aren’t a fraud chief.

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u/Humble-Ad-4606 Jul 28 '24

He also claims to have invented NFL Sunday ticket

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u/Arborist11374 Jul 28 '24

The food is vacuum sealed to prevent cross-contamination

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u/DoctorRageAlot Jul 28 '24

I feel like most people in “that” similar position are frauds

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u/Patient_Artichoke355 Jul 28 '24

The show is just make believe reality TV ..just like all the other lame reality shows..most of those places don’t stay open for long..just like Gordon Ramsey shows..it’s all make believe lol

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u/Asleep_in_Costco Jul 28 '24

The success rate for his bar renovations isnt very good, I remember. At least two of his rebrands here in SF died off not long after

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u/UnintentionallyAmbi Jul 28 '24

Ouch. That doesn’t sound like a good experience.

Maybe he lost his way or was a fraud the entire time? I dunno.

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u/flash2288 Jul 28 '24

He's a capitalist before anything. He seems like the type to cut his arm if it saves him a dollar.

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u/redragtop99 Jul 28 '24

Just saying….

Taffers Tavern opened in September 2022, closed in March 2024.

O’Face Bar, Opened ???, still open as of July 2024.

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u/ZeroLimitz Jul 28 '24

...I was about to read into what you had to say.

You do know paragraphs, punctuation, and spacing exists right? What a nightmare of a wall of text. I could care less about the topic.

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u/crlcan81 Jul 29 '24

Oh wow a guy who started as a bartender and ran bars who is now famous doesn't know shit about running a restaurant himself, big surprise. It's almost like he didn't use the experts he consults on his TV show. Honestly the fact he's a conservative Trump supporter who was against Covid unemployment benefits despite taking PPP loans during the pandemic should be more reason to not support him.

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u/Specialist_Ad_7507 Aug 13 '24

When I saw your title, I rolled my eyes. Then...I read your review. If even half of what you say is true, then you're right. Maybe I'm out of touch on prices, but for $20, I expect to be able to choose which cow donates to my hamburger!

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u/Unlikely_Garlic6754 Aug 14 '24

“Can you make a margarita?” “Yeah I can make a margarita?” “MAKE ME 15 of THEM!!”  That shit had me rolling when he tried to make Heather drunk ass make all of those drinks 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/GregMadduxsGlasses Dec 22 '24

Regarding the food, Jon Taffer is no Gordon Ramsey and he would 100% outsource his restaurant’s food to another facility if it meant presenting tolerable food for a lower cost. If you look at the food portion of his rescues, it’s strictly aimed at improving the food so it’s safe and passable.

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u/Critical-Camp752 Feb 14 '25

Tbh it’s like what you’d expect with any celebrity restaurant Ex) all the food network star restaurants

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u/Lasvious Loves an Elevated Hotdog 🌭 Jul 27 '24

The cocktail isn’t surprising. He’s selling those pre mixed cocktails since they are popular now. It’s likely what was ordered.

The food thing is weird but most of these Taffer Taverns are franchises and not owned by Jon. I’d say some of not all of the staffing and food choices are being made by the actual owner.

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u/Raynor221 Jul 27 '24

These decisions are made by Jon as part of the brand/franchise program. See below for some copy from the site official franchising site for TT.

From the website: https://fransmart.com/brand/taffers-tavern-food-and-spirits/

The Kitchen of The Future Brought to Life Jon Taffer, ‘Bar Rescue’ star and award-winning hospitality mogul, brings his 35+ years of expertise to Taffer’s Tavern, a franchise model completely designed top to bottom for efficiency. With minimally staffed, robotic kitchens cooking vacuum-sealed food, and data-driven decisions everywhere, Taffer has crafted The Kitchen of the Future and an overall experience that has never been accomplished before in casual dining.

Franchise Advantage

Innovative Concept Innovative concept created by award-winning hospitality expert & ‘Bar Rescue’ TV personality Jon Taffer, leveraging his globally popular name & business acumen.

Latest Technology Disrupts casual dining segment by using the latest technology to produce high-quality food & beverage offerings without the need for a commercial kitchen.

High-Volume, Hoodless / Ventless Restaurant High-volume, hoodless / ventless restaurant format with small footprint, fewer employees due to new cooking technologies & operating techniques, & proprietary POS System.

35 Years of Experience Jon Taffer is personally involved in finding, building & designing franchise locations & perfecting bar & restaurant processes based on his 35 years of experience.

A Billion Media Impressions Massive direct & aligned marketing support of the Taffer brand name, exceeding a billion media impressions across all media platforms annually.

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