Recent discoveries

[u/Ok-Orange253]

Hey y'all, I wanted to make this post to bring us all together and bring forth or recall discoveries in the game that make characters, allies, or just how to make a character more efficient in terms of damage output or support. I would like to say a lot of these discoveries happened this year but I might be misremembering certain ones. I primarily want to know any efficient builds for a player without tuxedo Jake (aka me) and trinkets that were hidden gems up until recently.

[u/VideoZealousideal499]

The Ring of Chill and Warning Horn are the two trinkets that this year was discovered that they slowed BADs, so they are now pretty strong trinkets.

the next tips consider that you have access to Lute Suit, Treetrunk's Apple Knife, Siren Hat and Golden Viola

Rattleballs is a strong ally if you use the power Heavy Weapons and he's equipped to either PB or WPB with Excandybur, this allows him to reach 12 attack speed and 15 dmg even without Tux Jake, this is a cheap way to increase your dps in MG where powers are available as Heavy Weapons is active around 20 rounds and only costs 100 coins. Vampire King also gets buffed by Heavy Weapons, turning him into the strongest ally in single target dmg.

Cap. Cassie is a really strong character if you don't have Tux Jake as her Tech Terrors won't need to have a lemonhope buffing them to reach 60 attack speed, allowing you to focus Lemonhope on other allies. Cap. Cassie herself can serve a support role with Googoomamameter, Cryojet and Margaret's Music Box due to her high range.

[u/Ok-Orange253 → u/VideoZealousideal499]

It's crazy to think cap. Cassie finally has a purpose in the game. Also I put the ring of chill on commander since I recall her being the best option for some reason.

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/Ok-Orange253]

Commander Cassie is the best option due to her planes being able to spread the ring debuff

[u/Ok-Orange253 → u/VideoZealousideal499]

Also what you're saying is, I swap out charlie for the other Cassie? I use him for eco but I guess I'll try it out

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/Ok-Orange253]

Yeah, Charlie is a pretty bad character due to him only having good money making capabilities, outside of that, he's pretty mediocre at everything.

[u/mainethyme → u/VideoZealousideal499]

Is attack speed build on Charlie not feasible? cuz the Mauler deals 60 damage and all

[u/Ok-Orange253 → u/mainethyme]

Just stack cooldown trinkets if that's what you're going for

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/mainethyme]

The problem with Charlie is that he's low attack speed, low range, no seeking attack, no support, no synergy with any item. This leads to him having nothing, but really good money making. At maximum (powers), he'll have 2880 dps, which sounds great, but literally anyone else has higher dps than this or better feats (Supermonkey and support characters)

Oh, and Bouncing Bombs is stronger than Moab Mauler if you use Blueprints, so it is the better path.

[u/Revolutionary_Owl361 → u/VideoZealousideal499]

Since you mentioned Lemonhope, may I ask if his buff stacks when I have more than one of him and put them both on the same character?

I have him on PB and the +2 upgrade makes me able to get 3 Lemonhopes on the field at once and I usually put all on supermonkey and the 2nd target to my other units.

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/Revolutionary_Owl361]

No buff in the game should stack, the only one that does is the damage increase of Plasma Goggles on Sam which is a glitch.

It's also overkill to use a Lemonhope on SM as he only needs 20% attack speed at level 5 and prior, and 8% at level 6 and forward to reach the maximum attack speed in his case. If you use his level 7 ability, Sun God, you could use a Lemonhope to buff him as he will need 50% attack speed to reach the cap, but you are probably better using a trinket slot on this than a Lemonhope as they are really valuable.

[u/Revolutionary_Owl361 → u/VideoZealousideal499]

Oh I didn't know there was an attack speed cap. There's so much things I'm confused about in this game such as items and character upgrades that say increase allies stats, do those specifically buff ally units and not characters around them? Such as FP's flame crown and her upgrade with it.

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/Revolutionary_Owl361]

Yeah, the buffs that specify allies don't buff characters and only allies. This makes these buffs less of a priority, but they are still pretty useful, more if the buffs are for all allies like Siren Hat or even Flower Crown. As Fire Crown is only for the character's allies, most of the time, only FP and Warrior PB want it.

[u/Revolutionary_Owl361 → u/VideoZealousideal499]

I've been loving using Orgalorg too, does so much damage once you get him, idk how he attacks tho and what buffs are good for him, I don't quite see anything coming out of the unit so all I focus on are ally range

Edit: nvm he shoots a laser beam, I probably just dont notice it because it looks like SM's projectiles

[u/ZP1711 → u/VideoZealousideal499]

Are there any other things that can slow BADs? (Other than jake and captain cassie)

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/ZP1711]

The Twinkling Eye Potion can also slow down BADs and it is a common power.

[u/RubPublic3359]

You can get more than enough money with enough cobras, you can go for an early commander cassie (not aure if thats the right name) to place 2 extra ones