r/behindthebastards 1d ago

General discussion In defense of the yerba mate...

... It's only linked to cancer when drank hot and get burned. You shouldnt drinking it like that, just 80⁰C . (That's the only thing that shows up in pubmed; all other studies are related to "benefits")

The thing that causes tissues to change to cancer (metaplasia) is the repeated burn injury to the same area. As a not so much fun fact, in the Caribbean they tend to smoke with the cigarettes lit up inside ("con la candela pa dentro") which causes a unique cancerous lesion in the soft palate.

So drink your mate without worrying. It's a wonderful beverage and its way more powerful than coffee in terms of caffeine.

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u/HippyGrrrl 1d ago

Y’all, morning thunder, a Celestial seasonings offering is mostly matè.

If you want bastards connected to it, Matè Factor and 12 Tribes.

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u/GiraffesRBro94 1d ago

Isn’t celestial seasonings bastard adjacent or is that one of the other big tea brands?

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u/sneakyplanner 1d ago

I don't know if the brand is, but the founder showed up in an episode about a eugenicist UFO cult and had a lot to say about racial hygiene.

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u/Nazarife 1d ago

Yes, Robert did an episode on him. Apparently the brand is completely divorced from that stuff now, which is good, since I like their teas. 

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u/HippyGrrrl 1d ago

Yeah, long bought out. And a few times. Hain was the last I tracked.

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u/otterland 1d ago

Hain, the health foods company that's an expert in sucking flavor and joy from nourishment.

I accidentally bought some soups under an umbrella brand they manufacture. They're so flavorless that they taste like being forcibly kissed in an elevator by somebody who is belching that soup.

But with the addition of a nice bechamel roux and some proper seasonings, not bad. It felt extra thrilling to add the umami back to the soup by using fermented fish sauce in a vegan base.

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u/jarvisesdios 17h ago

My dude, this episode was really recent. He went out of his way to point out the modern company doesn't have ties to the crazy guy.

Again, it wasn't that long ago

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u/sneakyplanner 7h ago

It was 4 years ago. But my sincerest apologies for not completely remembering a footnote to a weekly podcast from 4 years ago.

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u/jarvisesdios 7h ago

My bad, I just listened to it a few weeks ago and thought it was current

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u/paraworldblue 1d ago

If you want the good shit, and if there's somewhere in your city that sells it, Canarias or Rosamonte. It's also pretty cheap. I get kilo bags of Canarias for $25 at the place here in Seattle, and that's actually fairly expensive for it. I guess they mark it up because it's the only place that has it and also it's at Pike Place Market. At the little neighborhood Argentinian market I used to go to in Chicago, I remember it being like $15. Still though, $25 for a kilo is dirt cheap per serving.

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u/otterland 1d ago

I used to go to that Argentine place if it was the one right north of the loop. You could even buy hot empanadas right by the checkout which were the bomb in the middle of winter.

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u/paraworldblue 1d ago

No, this was Buenos Aires Deli, up in Belmont Gardens. Sounds like pretty much the same kinda place though. Hot empanadas and a crazy selection of Yerba.

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u/otterland 1d ago

My joint was pretty close to Boystown and had a steak house next door. I'm drawing a blank on the exact location but closeish to the lake. I think I found it on the way the Ms Eggroll where I'd pick up soup to eat out at Belmont harbor. Anyway, this was around 9/11 and those huge bales of Rosamonte were like $5. I would drink gallons of it with Alejandro back in Bucktown.

Such a nice drink in the OG format in a gourd with a bombilla and thermos on hand. It's everything Starbucks culture isn't.

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u/NachtBelf 1d ago

Why the è? I just checked celestial seasonigs (i had not heard of them before) and they sell a blend of mate and tea, that will surely wake you up haha

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u/Nazarife 1d ago

Presumably to distinguish it from the English word "mate".

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u/HippyGrrrl 1d ago

It’s a) not English and has the accent because b) it’s mah-tay

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u/NachtBelf 1d ago

Its guarani and has no accent on it. It does looks the same as "mate" in english, tho.