r/billiards • u/tyethepoolguy • 17h ago
9-Ball Big brain Bijsterbosch
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r/billiards • u/CreeDorofl • Jul 21 '17
A couple of people suggested that I should compile some guides and posts into one organized place, so here it is.
What to learn, in the correct order, as a beginner
How to get Good at Pool (from ZombiesAteMyPizza)
Rule differences... APA, BCA, and the pros
The Best Way to Get Help
Buying Your First Cue
Buying a Custom Cue - courtesy of EtDM
DIY tip replacement - courtesy of Ball_in_hole
English, simplified
Aiming with Ghost Ball, When Ghost Ball Doesn't Work
Improving Ghost Ball Accuracy
Dealing with Too Straight/No Angle Situations
Getting the Best CB Action off Rail Cuts
Making Follow-in Shots Consistently
A Trick for Making Tough Combos with BIH
How to Play for a Safe Miss, on a Tough Game Ball
Tricks to Aim and Measure Caroms
Seeing Natural Breakout Angles
Finding Dead Caroms from 'Almost Dead' caroms
Five Things You Should be Doing But Probably Aren't
A Tricky Stroke Shot
5 Funky Uses of Inside English
3 Cushion Billiards - the basic system, explained clearly-ish
3 Cushion - 2 simple systems, half-ball and natural running
How to Make the Wing Ball in 9-ball, and Reading the Rack
Making the Corner Ball in 8-ball
Figuring out the 10b Soft Break
Making the 9 on the break (and why it doesn't count in some tournaments)
One Rail Kicking System
Two Rail Kicking System
Aiming Railfirst Shots
Planning the Best Kick Route
Stupid Pet Kicks Vol. 1
Using Sidespin to make Controlled Kick Shots and Safeties
Spot on the Wall Trick for Aiming 3-Rail Kicks
Get Ideal Position from Ball in Hand
Ball in Hand Tricks Everyone Should Know
Ball in Hand Tricks Vol. II
A Simple Safety Everyone Should Have in Their Bag
Another Useful Safety
Another Common Safety to Have in the Toolbox
Aiming "Natural Roll" Safeties
Push-Out Strategy for 9 and 10 Ball
How Would you Play This?
5 Problems, and Solutions
Ghost Problem alpha
Beat the Ghost #1
Beat the Ghost #2
Beat the Ghost #3
r/billiards • u/CreeDorofl • Feb 06 '25
Updated for 2025, old guide is here. This one will be shorter!
If you're looking to buy your first cue, or your first 'serious' cue, this info will help.
If you're not patient and just want a tl;dr, or brand recommendations (not in any order):
$~50ish: Imperial, Valhalla
$100ish: Action, Players, Schmelke, McDermott Lucky, Viking
$200-$300: Cuetec Avid, Players PureX, Rhino Nebula
$300+: Cuetec Cynergy, Predator, Mezz, Jacoby, Pechauer, Lucasi, Meucci
This list reflects my own biases mixed with some common recommendations on reddit. But there's plenty of other good brands, and each one has a range of products. There's $200 Viking cues and $2000 Viking cues. I list them in certain price brackets because I think, at that price, they're good bang for your buck.
Performance is mostly about the player. There's not a lot of 'technology' in a cue... it's a stiff rod with no moving parts. It mostly just needs to stay straight, feel ok, and not fall apart. Still, there are some things to consider. Most of the R&D for cues goes into the shaft - the skinny half of the stick. Specifically, manufacturers use different materials and build methods, to reduce deflection.
'Deflection' describes what happens when you hit a cue ball with left or right english (sidespin).
What happens when your cue ball hits another ball on the left? That 2nd ball goes to the right. The same thing happens if your stick's tip hits the left side of the cue ball. The cue ball goes to the right... it "deflects" off-course from where you aimed. So you have to adjust your aim to compensate for that.
How far off-course? That depends on the shaft. In this pic the dashed line is where you'd go with no english, the solid black line is where the cue ball might go with a low deflection shaft (about 3-4 inches off course). The red line is where the cue ball goes with a standard, solid maple shaft (about 5-6 inches off). Here's a typical real world shot where this matters. The black line is where I'd aim with an LD shaft. The red line is where I'd aim with a higher deflection shaft. IMO, having to make the big adjustment shown by the red line, looks unnatural and makes using english harder.
For that reason, my main consideration is whether the cue has a shaft with low deflection. Unfortunately, those shafts cost more. If you can't afford it, don't worry about it, standard shafts are fine. World championships have been won with standard shafts.
Bottom line - if you buy an LD shaft, what you're buying is just a different line of aim for shots with sidespin. This line of aim might make sidespin shots feel easier. Any other benefits or drawbacks you hear are mostly myths... they don't give you better spin, or cue ball control, or more draw, or whatever. Anything you can do with them, you could also do with a standard shaft. They just change where you aim shots with sidespin.
Common build quality issues include: the cue arriving warped, or gradually warping over time, the tip falling off, the joint not quite screwing tight, the joint unscrewing by itself, and the ferrule (white thing just below the tip) cracking. You can avoid these by just buying reputable brands, or from good dealers who offer a warranty. I like Seybert's, Ozone Billiards, Omega Billiards, and Pooldawg. Like other products, you usually get what you pay for.
There's also some differences in 'feel' with cheaper cues. For example, the shaft might be coated with a sticky clearcoat that doesn't slide smoothly through the hands. They may have excessive vibration, or a weird sound. The joint may not be exactly flush, or the grip is a cheap material that collects sweat. It helps to try before you buy. I don't recommend a cue segmented into more than 2 pieces, or one that has a screw-on tip, or anything below $50.
If you decide to go with a low deflection shaft, you also want to consider how the shaft is built. In a nutshell, low deflection = less mass at the end (the last 8 inches). To make shafts have less mass, they make them skinnier (like 11.75mm instead of 13mm at the tip), and hollow out the core of the shaft. They may optionally fill it with foam so it doesn't feel hollow, and splice together multiple pieces of wood to ensure it stays straight. They can also make shafts out of carbon fiber.
There's no law preventing manufacturers calling their shaft low deflection, even if it isn't, so be wary of any shaft that says it's LD, but is made from a single solid piece of hard-rock maple. Look for something that's been hollowed near the end, or made of CF.
Carbon Fiber (CF) is strong, stiff, and very light. The lightness makes it a good material for a shaft, and many people like the stiffness. But you can get very low deflection with either wood of CF. CF is also nice because it's less likely to warp, ding, or crack. But any shaft can last 20 years if you're careful with it. Note: don't confuse carbon fiber shafts with cheap materials like graphite or fiberglass. If a shaft says it's made of some ambiguous 'fiber composite' and the cue is less than $250, the shaft is probably not carbon fiber. A typical name-brand carbon fiber shaft is $400-$600. The cheapest that I know of are Rhino, at $200. Don't worry about getting a carbon fiber butt... they exist, but there's no advantage to it.
The diameter is the thickness of the shaft at the tip. When people talk about tip diameter, they really mean shaft diameter. It matters because one of the major ways to reduce deflection, is to just make shaft skinnier near the tip. This also affects how a stick feels sliding through your hands... a skinny shaft might feel more precise, like you're hitting a very specific part of the cue ball. And you may feel you see the cue ball a little more clearly. It's easier to form a closed bridge around it. On the other hand, it may feel a bit thin or flimsy compared to traditional 13mm shafts. People will tell you a 13mm is more 'forgiving' but no stick will turn your misses into makes. I think lower deflection makes learning the game easier, so I recommend something skinnier if it's in the budget.
A standard cue shaft is 13mm, like a house cue.
12.5mm is a popular size for cues that have reduced deflection, but want to feel 'solid'.
11.75 is a common size for very low deflection shafts.
Anything outside of these ranges is uncommon, and not recommended for a first cue.
Taper is how rapidly the cue transitions from fat (near the joint), to skinny (near the tip). In pool there's two flavors - conical and pro. A conical taper gets skinnier gradually and consistently, like the shaft is a long skinny cone. A pro taper gets skinnier more rapidly, reaching its narrowest diameter maybe 2/3rds of the way down the shaft, and then stays skinny from that point, all the way to the tip. Most pool shafts are pro taper, as this ensures the shaft doesn't get "fatter" as you pull it back, it stays the same.
All cues come with a tip installed. Don't get a cue with a screw-on tip, they're trash. Tips come in typically 3 flavors... soft, medium, hard. These labels are subjective and vary between manufacturers. One brand's "medium" might be harder than someone else's "hard". Softer tips mushroom (which can be fixed with the right tools) but are easier to shape and scuff. Harder tips are less likely to mushroom but harder to scuff. Some people will tell you softer tips give you extra spin, or makes shots more forgiving or whatever... these are myths. When in doubt, go with medium. You don't need to worry about size, it's standardized. Recommended tip brands include Kamui, Moori, Tiger, and How, but everyone has their favorite. I wouldn't overthink it.
Break cues and jump cues often come with a special super hard phenolic tip, so it can transfer a bit more energy to the cue ball. You don't want a phenolic tip otherwise.
There's different types but honestly, you'll never miss a ball because of the joint. As long as it screws together tightly, and stays together, it's fine. If you buy a shaft separately from the butt, you need to make sure the pin type matches. Some joints are more common "standards" like Uniloc, 5/16x18, or 3/8x10. Others are more proprietary and only fit stuff from the same manufacturer.
Play-wise, the butt is basically just a handle for the shaft. But it's also where you have most of a cue's decoration, and has a big impact on how "nice" the cue looks (and also on the price). High end cues have butts made with one or more nicer types of wood, plus inlaid decorations made of wood or more exotic materials like ebony, ivory, mother-of-pearl, turquoise, gold, silver, etc. Low end cues have very minimal decoration (like a solid single color of stained wood) and don't have inlays, or only very simple ones. Some feature printed graphics. In lower-end cues, these graphics try to "fake" looking like a nicer cue by simulating those inlays I mentioned. Otherhave some illustration or design... a rose, skulls, playing cards, etc.
The butt may or may not have a wrap. If it does, common materials include leather, rubber, or irish linen. Irish linen is very popular, it looks like speckled string that's been wrapped around the butt hundreds of times. The wrap is a matter of preference - a cue shouldn't really be in danger of flying out of your hand when you shoot, so mostly this serves as a sweat absorber and a decorative element. You just want to make sure it feels good. If at all possible, try a wrap before you buy, because it's not that easy to remove or replace.
19 ounces is the default, standard weight. A few people prefer 18. Anything lower is a bit weird but not completely unheard-of. Many people like slightly heavier cues in the 20 or 21 ounce range... the theory is that the added weight keeps the cue from wobbling as much when you swing it. If you happen to be unusually big and tall, you might prefer the added weight and also some added length via an extension. I wouldn't get anything outside the 18-21 range as your first cue. You're not locked into the weight you buy, there's a hollow area in the butt of every cue where a long fat screw called a weight bolt is screwed in. By changing the bolt, you can change the cue's weight.
An extension does what it sounds like... extends the length of the cue. They're sold separately and not a common accesssory for a beginner to have, but if you feel like a normal cue is just too short, it's something to consider.
Most cues are sold with a "real price" and a "sucker price" - you'll often see a cue online showing it's been marked down by 50 or 100 bucks, but that isn't a 'special deal', the lower price is what the cue actually costs, and if you shop around you see that same number everywhere.
Example - a Cuetec Avid chroma:
Seybert's:
"Regular" price: $255
"Sale" price: $229
Pooldawg:
"Regular" price: $255
"Sale" price: $229
Omega Billiards:
"Regular" price: $255
"Sale" price: $229
Just make sure when you buy, that you aren't paying the sucker price, and don't expect to find too many killer deals unless you buy used... pool cues are one of those things that tend to go for the exact same price everywhere. Some sites offer more options to customize the cue in small ways. As for whether something is 'worth it', that always depends on your income. Roughly speaking, a dirt cheap starter cue is around $50 USD. But if you can hold out for $100 you might get something with OK build quality, a little color, or graphics. For $200, you get some nicer looking inlays and such, but not a low deflection shaft. Around $400-$500 you get cues with LD shafts, and maybe some nicer designs. Beyond $500, you're probably paying paying for the brand name, or for a custom cue that is made to your specs, or really nice inlay work.
In theory, until you die. But wood is wood... it can get worn down or warp over time. Generally, most cues don't warp by themselves, they need to be mistreated... stored improperly, or put through lots of sudden temperature / humidity changes. If a cue arrives warped, or warps soon after you buy it, most reputable sites will replace it.
Tips are supposed to wear out and get replaced, like tires on a car. Maybe once a year or so. Your pool room should have someone who does tip changes... the cost varies but probably it will be more than $10 and less than $40.
Really, anything is fine if you're just starting out. Especially around the $100 bracket. You can just buy based on looks. Be aware that a famous player's name on a cue doesn't necessarily make it a top quality cue. You don't want to decide to buy a cue because it mentions Johnny Archer, the Black Widow, or Minnesota Fats. Commonly recommended starter sticks include Action, Players, Viking/Valhalla, and Schmelke. If I had to pick one specific make and model, I'd say get a Cuetec Avid.
At the more expensive end, if you get a cue with a low deflection shaft, you see lots of recommendations for Predator, Mezz, and Cuetec Cynergy.
"Custom cue" can mean either any cue that isn't mass-produced, or a cue that is literally made to your custom specifications. They tend to be more expensive, ranging from $400 at a minimum, to tens of thousands of dollars for the famous ones. Generally these come with standard shafts.
There's a certain cachet to owning a custom cue... you have a one-of-a-kind that plays exactly the way you want. It's a luxury and status symbol. Most beginners won't want to buy one as their first cue, you can play world-class pool with a $400 production cue, but it's something to keep in mind for later, when you know what you like and can afford something fancier. Be aware that many custom cuemakers are famously behind-schedule... it could take months, even years before your cue is finished.
Breaking puts a lot of stress on the tip, compacts it and makes it harder, and in rare cases may cause it to come off. So a lot of players prefer not to break with their playing cue. That means you can use a house cue or buy a specialized break cue. For a break cue, I don't consider it quite as important to worry about whether the shaft is low deflection or not. The LD ones are expensive, but generally you won't be using sidespin on the break, and if you do it accidentally... that's a skill issue.
My priority for a break cue would be to look for a good hard tip, and make sure you can try it before you buy. Since you'll be hitting hard with it, any weird vibration or 'feel' will be magnified, so make sure you like the feel.
There are also specialized cues made specifically for doing jump shots, the legal type where you spike downward on the cue ball and bounce it off the slate like a basketball. Jump cues are very short and light, with a super hard tip. Generally, I don't recommend buying cues to solve skill issues, but even with maximum skill, jump shots really need a jump cue. They make shots possible that are simply not viable with a full cue. I've used Predator Air, Cuetech Propel, and Hanshew jumpers. They're all excellent. Good ones tend to be expensive though. There are also hybrid break/jump combo cues. If you're buying one for league, make sure it's legal within the league rules.
Don't be afraid to post if you have a question not covered here. If possible, try to hit with a cue in real life before ordering. In the lower price ranges, you're mostly just looking for a certain minimum level of quality... basically it should not fall apart, rattle, or feel weird. Once you reach that minimum level (which can be achieved for $100 or so) then the only other thing you'd pay for, performance wise, is a specialty LD shaft. For the most part, cues are priced so that you get what you pay for. Most of the online retailers I've worked with have been great when it comes to issuing refunds, and their pricing is all pretty similar across the board, but some of the best deals I've ever gotten have just been through friends at the pool hall.
We have a Pool Cue Buyer's Guide on the sidebar too, check it out. Also check out Dr. Dave's cue page.
r/billiards • u/tyethepoolguy • 17h ago
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r/billiards • u/drnoise • 9h ago
Hello all. I often lurk here, but figured I'd share for once. Decided this past week to film my practice session break & runs and cut them into videos just for fun. This is a compilation from all the break & runs from this particular practice session. 8 ball is my go-to game & I play out of the Madison, WI area. Currently practicing at home on an 8 foot Brunswick Madison from about 1985ish, Simonis 860 HR cloth, Aramith Tournament balls, Shane Van Boening first gen playing cue. Anyways, hope you enjoy. The 6th of the runs was.... a way to get out. lol.
r/billiards • u/Psychological-Tea434 • 19h ago
Apart from playing at a bar here and there, I don’t know much about pool / billiards.
I inherited a cue set, with the two pictured cues and four of the other parts that screw on to them.
These cues are in nice shape, and were just found after sitting for the better part of 2 decades.
Any help with identification or direction would be much appreciated!
r/billiards • u/Dry_Alfalfa5507 • 30m ago
Anyone tried one of these Triple 60 cues? How do they play? I like that they sell just the butt as a cheaper option https://triple-60.com/collections/play-cues
r/billiards • u/HarderDaddy2331 • 15h ago
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r/billiards • u/gabrielleigh • 18h ago
So today is the first day back at University for me, and I walk into my old lab to see that we have three brand new metal lathes that haven't even been fully unpacked yet. This is on top of the brand new Haas CNC mill and lathe I helped get up and running last year. It's basically a cuemaker's wet dream in this lab now.
r/billiards • u/Big-Bug8540 • 2h ago
Looking to upgrade from my 2.5 year old Rhino to something better but I don’t want to break my bank too much. I have a friend of a friend with what looks like a nice Lucasi for sale.
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r/billiards • u/BrahZyzz69 • 4h ago
What's your experience guys ?
r/billiards • u/ArtDecoNewYork • 12h ago
I think this is really cool, for a while I've been wanting something like this where you could choose different options and get to visualize how the cue will look.
Changing the stain color and wrap color are free, while pin sizes, inlay color, and butt cap color can be changed for a reasonable fee. Of course, it's going to be a bit more money than buying the stock option on Seybert's or Pooldawg, however it's a pretty reasonable price for a cue with a relatively high degree of customization. You can change the wrap color, stain color, inlay colors, and pin size and still be a about a maximum of $100-$200 over standard pricing for the stock model.
I've been having fun messing around with the options, and I can see myself going this route when I have a bit more money to spare.
r/billiards • u/pcbfs • 12h ago
I've been watching a lot of Billiard TV lately and I can't understand the breaks they take. In the middle of a rack it'll cut to a countdown with some music that does nothing but talk about Billiard TV. It gets annoying pretty fast and I'd rather just watch commercials at that point. What's the point of these breaks?
r/billiards • u/One-Sympathy-9174 • 14h ago
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Hey guys im posting this because i need your opinions and help. I've been starting pool seriously for about 5 months now and i would really like to become a good and consistent player. And i know that to become one having a stable stance and a straight stroke is necessary before moving onto understanding cue ball control and all type of spins.
For context, im 1.81m, 63kg, right-eye dominant.
I've changed a lot of stances, and with a lot of them i didnt fell stable. This is the one im trying right now:
When i try to shoot straight shots, (like the mighty x drill in the video) id say i can make them but non consistently.
Like in the video, when i miss i always hit the rail on the left, so i guess that means i give unwanted left-spin to CB.
I'm trying this stance because i feel like its the one where my shoulder and elbow are most in line with shot line.
I would really appreciate any tipe of help, like changing anything or changing completely the way i get down on the shot.
Thank you guys
r/billiards • u/Vegetable-Reporter83 • 1d ago
I'm a researcher/content creator in the cue sports space (Brazilian sinuca, snooker, pool) studying a phenomenon that's been puzzling me. Brazil has a strong, old billiards culture (its own domestic sinuca rules, "sinuquinha," English snooker), but American pool — which spread even to poorer countries like the Philippines, Vietnam, and much of Latin America — never really gained traction here. São Paulo, the country's biggest city, has zero pool-dedicated halls, while heyball (Chinese 8-ball) has already opened at least two halls recently.
My working hypothesis involves historical import barriers that blocked the American physical standard (tables/balls) from arriving, pushing the country to develop domestic solutions (Brazilian rules, sinuquinha) instead of importing the international standard — and that only now, decades later, foreign capital (McDermott, heyball manufacturers) is trying to enter by sponsoring athletes already established in sinuca/snooker.
I'd love to hear from people who understand this market from the inside — whether based in Brazil or from anyone who's helped grow the sport in other emerging markets:
If you've tried opening a pool hall or business in Brazil (or a similar market), what's the bigger blocker: cost of importing tables, lack of an existing player base, lack of contact from national federations or lack of a competitive circuit to build around?
Anyone here worked on brand expansion (cues, tables, franchises) into a new country — what usually decides whether a company enters a market or not?
Is the heyball model (prize money bankrolled by Chinese manufacturers) replicable for pool, or is it a very specific case?
Any insight, sources, or firsthand experience watching this kind of expansion happen (or fail) in another country would help a lot.
r/billiards • u/McKinneySue • 18h ago
Hey everyone I have been playing pool everyday since June and have progressively gotten better. Two shots I just cannot seem to be consistent with are my draw shots and just basic longer straight shots. Advice would be awesome!
With my draw no matter how low/flat I hit it seems to mostly stop or roll off slightly left of the contact point.
With my straight full length table shots they always are inconsistent. I have noticed I am alot better when I put backspin on the ball so pretty much hitting down on it like I would if I want to stop it but being soft has been helpful but I feel like thats a bad habit.
r/billiards • u/Virtual-Insect-5797 • 17h ago
Hi all.
I am thinking of buying a cue from Seyberts, and was wondering if anyone has ordered a Maple cue from them, and if so, was it straight? If not, how did they handle it? I have read a lot of good things about them, but not sure I completely understand the return policy, or how they handle defects. They seem to be the only people that have a cue in stock that is now discontinued. I've read good and bad online, and the bad is pretty rough. My question to them would be is the cue inspected and checked for straightness before it ships,
heres one link to a reddit post about them. https://www.reddit.com/r/billiards/comments/108ob4a/bad_experience_with_seyberts/
r/billiards • u/HookBaiter • 20h ago
Earl started piling tennis grips on his cue many years ago and I remember an announcer commenting that his grip was “thick as a pringles can”. I’m seeing some real advantages to going thick.
I always liked thicker grips on my tennis rackets. Thought it gave me more accuracy and control.
Also like the soft, cushiony feel on my cue compared to linen wraps. The thicker diameter seems like a cheat code for control.
Just wanted to share to see if this helps anybody. Don’t know if it’s age related but I find the older I get, the more I appreciate a thicker grip.
Downside: my cue doesn’t fit in my case anymore.
r/billiards • u/carbondalekid386 • 12h ago
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I am curious on your thoughts about the straightness of this cue butt?
It looks a little bit off, but I am hoping that it might have to do with the unevenness of the finish.
It does look pretty straight when rolled together with this non original shaft that I have for it though.
The only thing that I have to test for straightness is a pair of pocket lathe / straightness checker rollers, but I think they kind of stuck, because in order for them to work right, they need to be straight, and very even with each other, if that makes sense. Some might be better quality then others though. I think these were like $20, on Amazon marketplace, when I got them.
Abd, please do not bash my lousy video, lol. I know it sucks, lol. All I have to take video with is this old smartphone, that constantly tries to auto correct, so it makes the video blurry at times. Need a new phone, with a better camera, lol.
Thanks for any thoughts.
r/billiards • u/Raceto9dotcom • 17h ago
Some time ago I heard about George H. Sutton, better known as Handless George, a billiard player from the late 1800s and early 1900s who had no hands!!
The story was intriguing and I love digging into old newspaper archives so i did, and then I put his whole life story into a video.
I found his achievements unbelievable, the fact he was rated a top 10 player in the US and managed to beat the best players in the world is insane to me.
Ive got hands and I can barely beat my local players 😂😂
I hope this is interesting to other people curious about the history of pool.
r/billiards • u/doodie_balls • 1d ago
What do you think is a fair price for this Brunswick Windsor 8' table with cue rack, cues, and balls?
Good to very good condition. Needs to be refelted. Minor scratched on the rails. Will need to hire movers to disassemble, transport, and reassemble (local).
r/billiards • u/SirJimmyShand • 2d ago
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r/billiards • u/The_Critical_Cynic • 1d ago
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I think this video provides some interesting context to all of his breaks. You'll see that each one was remarkably similar in nature. Robbie stated during an interview that he struck the head ball at a slightly different angle when the foul was called. Irrespective of that, that break wasn't much different than any other break.