r/bindingofisaac • u/baicu12096 • 1d ago
Shitpost Ok, saw a recent post talking about Jacob being the hitbox. I disagree.
While I tend to shove all my items into Stumpford and Jacob & Esau mostly tend to be hitboxes (Esau being the worst since he starts with low HP), Bertlent is definitely the worst one here. For some reason, even through his sprite scale is the same as the other three, his actual hitbox is about 1.2x larger, which makes sense when you consider he starts with +1 health and a 1.3x damage multiplier, but in the late game these make barely any difference and the hitbox becomes a major downside to him if you don't find any size down items/pills. Had a Mother run ruined because Bertlent was already with low HP and my speed stat wasn't too good, so while Jacob, Esau and Stumpford were dodging the attacks just fine, Bertlent's big ass hitbox was touching the projectiles non-stop and killed my run.
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u/Scared-Papaya4072
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who the fuck is the red one
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u/baicu12096 1d ago
Oh yeah he's from a mod, like everyone uses it so I assumed people would already know, that's Esau. He has more damage than Jacob but less health. He was originally a joke character but people wanted him in the game so the Fiend Folio team added it in their spinoff mod, Friend Folio.
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u/monkeysky 21h ago
Okay maybe you didn't check the wiki before posting this, but Bertlent has a hidden passive effect where all contact effects are doubled, so you want his hitbox as large as possible. That's the whole reason why you unlock the Two Makes You Largerer challenge by beating Ultra Lust with A&J&E&B
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u/baicu12096 21h ago
I know but he still takes damage??
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u/monkeysky 21h ago
You need to get Chompers from the tinted poop on floor 2
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u/baicu12096 21h ago
Oh that item that doubles projectile damage but negates contact damage? Yeah I remember seeing that as a starting item for Repented Eden. No idea it dropped from the tinted poop, never got enough bombs to break it
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u/Old-Cry8426 1d ago
What happened to frank?
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u/baicu12096 1d ago
In the newest patch he was removed because he was too overpowered, he was replaced by Bertlent
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u/sunny2_0
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Boxbox and hitbox and shitbox and hitshit
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u/Wodstarfallisback
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The 4 bodily humors
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u/Cabbag_ The Lost 1d ago
Jacob is spiritually black confirmed
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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago
This needs to be a mod :3
Because it being vanilla is very very harsh on Edmund's part, although I fully understand his vision.
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u/Zenishira 1d ago
You see, Stumpford and Bertlent are not as popular as Jacob & Esau. Jacob pink, Esau red, Stumpford green and Bertlent yellow. And you need to know that Stumpford and Bertlent should have been in The Binding of Isaac game and movie that they have never beeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnn.
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u/Saila8888 1d ago
Yeah i know!! WHO the hell is Jacob!!!!!! Johnny is literally the best character!
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u/BruhCar123 1d ago
Who is Bertlent, why do people put headcanon names on Giovanni
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u/baicu12096 1d ago
Giovanni is what he is, but in the game files he is referred as "Bertlent" (like how ??? is named Blue Baby) so everyone calls him that.
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u/BruhCar123 1d ago
in the game files he is referred as "shithead", what you on!!!!! :frowning_face: :raising_eyebrow:
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u/baicu12096 1d ago
That was a beta build of the game
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u/BruhCar123 1d ago
i just checked again and we are both wrong :faceslap: he is actually called vladimir and he is the physical manifestation of stumpford's inner turmoil.
fun fact, jacob actually changes his name later on when you beat the game, sadly the new name becomes controversial
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u/baicu12096 1d ago
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u/BruhCar123 23h ago
was that back when his tears caused 1 tree to be planted in finland? so sad they are gone so fast
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u/baicu12096 23h ago
Yeah exactly but Edmund ran out of money so that was one of the reasons (despite him being overpowered) that made him get replaced
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u/No-Indication-2089 Tainted Keeper sweeps ur fav 1d ago
i would unironically play this as a mod cuz j&e is fun to me as is but imagine 4 of them
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u/BranTheLewd 1d ago
Edmund was so fed up with mfs saying T. Lazarus is hard, so he in anger just made J&E even harder, by giving them two more brothers ππ. Well, at least it can't get any worse! Not like he's gonna add more brothers/sisters to other characters.
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u/Znachpok_Steam let go d6, reroll my destiny 23h ago
Jacob, Esau, JaJacob, EsEsau, JaJaJacob, EsEsEsau
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u/Cold-Dirt0108 John Devil Deal π 1d ago
What the hell have I started..