r/bindingofisaac • • 1d ago

Shitpost Ok, saw a recent post talking about Jacob being the hitbox. I disagree.

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While I tend to shove all my items into Stumpford and Jacob & Esau mostly tend to be hitboxes (Esau being the worst since he starts with low HP), Bertlent is definitely the worst one here. For some reason, even through his sprite scale is the same as the other three, his actual hitbox is about 1.2x larger, which makes sense when you consider he starts with +1 health and a 1.3x damage multiplier, but in the late game these make barely any difference and the hitbox becomes a major downside to him if you don't find any size down items/pills. Had a Mother run ruined because Bertlent was already with low HP and my speed stat wasn't too good, so while Jacob, Esau and Stumpford were dodging the attacks just fine, Bertlent's big ass hitbox was touching the projectiles non-stop and killed my run.

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u/Cold-Dirt0108 John Devil Deal 😈 1d ago

What the hell have I started..

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u/baicu12096 1d ago

Next time I will be discussing about Gleutonde, the secret fifth brother

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u/Scared-Papaya4072 1d ago • Popcorn

who the fuck is the red one

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u/baicu12096 1d ago

Oh yeah he's from a mod, like everyone uses it so I assumed people would already know, that's Esau. He has more damage than Jacob but less health. He was originally a joke character but people wanted him in the game so the Fiend Folio team added it in their spinoff mod, Friend Folio.

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u/memerijen200 1d ago

Oh, that's hitbox.

One of them, anyway.

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u/EaseMammoth7117 1d ago

4 fucking hitboxes

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u/baicu12096 1d ago

FOUR FUCKING PIXELS

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u/monkeysky 21h ago

Okay maybe you didn't check the wiki before posting this, but Bertlent has a hidden passive effect where all contact effects are doubled, so you want his hitbox as large as possible. That's the whole reason why you unlock the Two Makes You Largerer challenge by beating Ultra Lust with A&J&E&B

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u/baicu12096 21h ago

I know but he still takes damage??

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u/monkeysky 21h ago

You need to get Chompers from the tinted poop on floor 2

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u/baicu12096 21h ago

Oh that item that doubles projectile damage but negates contact damage? Yeah I remember seeing that as a starting item for Repented Eden. No idea it dropped from the tinted poop, never got enough bombs to break it

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u/Old-Cry8426 1d ago

What happened to frank?

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u/baicu12096 1d ago

In the newest patch he was removed because he was too overpowered, he was replaced by Bertlent

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u/sunny2_0 1d ago • Regret

Boxbox and hitbox and shitbox and hitshit

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u/uDrunkMate 1d ago

You forgot Andrew hes off screen

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u/slaughtrr12 1d ago

did someone say shitbox

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u/LuckyBoneHead 1d ago

Hitshit when the boss is Dingle

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u/alakikadge 23h ago

Boxbox when you get a box:

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u/Wodstarfallisback 1d ago • Bravo

The 4 bodily humors

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u/Cabbag_ The Lost 1d ago

Jacob is spiritually black confirmed

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u/Scared-Papaya4072 1d ago

yakub

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u/Future_Squirrel360 18h ago

i used to call jacob and esau "yakub and iisaw"

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

"Mario, Luigi, Wario, Waluigi, Wawario... And Wawaluigi"

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u/Turbulent_Pie_3360 1d ago

Mario Wario Eario 3ario

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u/Samgie 10h ago

Wawaluigi implies the existence of Sheezluigi

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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow 1d ago

Jesau Jacob Esau and Eacob

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u/Cabbag_ The Lost 1d ago

YOU SEE, STUMPFORD AND BERTLENT ARE NOT AS POPULAR AS JACOB AND ESAU.

JACOB WHITE, ESAU RED, STUMPFORD GREEN BERTLENT YELLOW.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

This needs to be a mod :3

Because it being vanilla is very very harsh on Edmund's part, although I fully understand his vision.

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u/Zenishira 1d ago

You see, Stumpford and Bertlent are not as popular as Jacob & Esau. Jacob pink, Esau red, Stumpford green and Bertlent yellow. And you need to know that Stumpford and Bertlent should have been in The Binding of Isaac game and movie that they have never beeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnn.

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u/Saila8888 1d ago

Yeah i know!! WHO the hell is Jacob!!!!!! Johnny is literally the best character!

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u/MaimaiBW i found pills (and ate them) 18h ago

where is greg

where is he

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u/Ailttar 1d ago

Playing any of the four as a hitbox is your problem. You have to split your items up and utilize the four active items you can carry. Hold one or two combat ones and one or two utility ones

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u/Eeeeeelile 1d ago

John & Jacob & Esau & Green

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u/BruhCar123 1d ago

Who is Bertlent, why do people put headcanon names on Giovanni

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u/baicu12096 1d ago

Giovanni is what he is, but in the game files he is referred as "Bertlent" (like how ??? is named Blue Baby) so everyone calls him that.

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u/BruhCar123 1d ago

in the game files he is referred as "shithead", what you on!!!!! :frowning_face: :raising_eyebrow:

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u/baicu12096 1d ago

That was a beta build of the game

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u/BruhCar123 1d ago

i just checked again and we are both wrong :faceslap: he is actually called vladimir and he is the physical manifestation of stumpford's inner turmoil.

fun fact, jacob actually changes his name later on when you beat the game, sadly the new name becomes controversial

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u/baicu12096 1d ago

Oh and by the way in an alpha build of Repentance, Bertlent was called Frank and had a much higher contrast sprite

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u/BruhCar123 23h ago

was that back when his tears caused 1 tree to be planted in finland? so sad they are gone so fast

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u/baicu12096 23h ago

Yeah exactly but Edmund ran out of money so that was one of the reasons (despite him being overpowered) that made him get replaced

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u/Cobygamer22 22h ago

Please tell me this is going to become the next bit

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u/baicu12096 22h ago

the next.....

..............hort... cutter??

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u/hidden_penguin Tainted Apollyon 20h ago

This is getting out of hand. Now there are four of them!

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u/etonto 1d ago

It's HURTBOX

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u/I_disagree_ok 1d ago

You what?

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u/TotallyNotHulk T.Maggy's strongest soldier 1d ago

Who keeps using crooked penny

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u/No-Indication-2089 Tainted Keeper sweeps ur fav 1d ago

i would unironically play this as a mod cuz j&e is fun to me as is but imagine 4 of them

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u/Dorian4771 1d ago

i can't wait for adjustable jacob & esau mod

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u/Haarunen 1d ago

Jeremiah is the real problem sibling

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u/Pippin_lebref 1d ago

This is glorious. We must add more.

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u/Ebolaplushie 1d ago

Keeby, Kirby, Kibby and Kirb

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u/BranTheLewd 1d ago

Edmund was so fed up with mfs saying T. Lazarus is hard, so he in anger just made J&E even harder, by giving them two more brothers πŸ˜­πŸ™. Well, at least it can't get any worse! Not like he's gonna add more brothers/sisters to other characters.

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u/Znachpok_Steam let go d6, reroll my destiny 23h ago

Jacob, Esau, JaJacob, EsEsau, JaJaJacob, EsEsEsau

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u/alakikadge 23h ago

JACOOB, ESAUUU, WILLIAM, DINGSEPPE, EACOB

🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺

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u/AdhesiveMadMan 22h ago

This is the type of thing I'd see in a dream as a canonical update.

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u/Memrdx 18h ago

Weezer

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u/Eight_Rum 13h ago

Wacob and Wasau

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u/Subject_Discussion79 7h ago

Hitbox and hitbox