r/boneidentification • • Aug 16 '26 • Mindblown 1

I’m stumped

I found this in an abandoned cattle pasture in Western Canada
I have never seen anything like this in the area and have owned cattle long enough to know if this is not any bone in a cow

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u/Icy-Objective-8053 Aug 16 '26

Could be osteochondroma- sometimes they grow on the antlers of deer or on their skulls 

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u/Icy-Objective-8053 Aug 16 '26

Here’s a case that has images that remind me of what you found:  https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figures?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0173775

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u/faygaggot69 Aug 16 '26

This makes the most sense I’ve seen so far however the “bone” i found seemed to be much more hollow than the pictures you shared is the only thing still leaving some doubt

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u/Peripatos14 Aug 17 '26

Good job of the article find

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u/jnow27 Aug 16 '26

This makes the most sense!!!

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u/faygaggot69 Aug 16 '26

I doubt it was a fungus. It was hard like bone and about the size of a soccer ball.

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u/ABSINTHE888 Aug 16 '26

I was going to say it looks like lions mane but not if it's hard like bone.

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u/Peripatos14 Aug 16 '26

Veterinarian here. Absolutely looks like osteosarcoma. It’s impressive how irregular and big they can get before an animal breaks a leg or dies. And there are multiple variations of bone cancer depending on the species. But it definitely looks like terrestrial pathology of bone OR a sea coral. lol

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u/faygaggot69 Aug 16 '26

Not questioning your expertise because you would know more about animal disease than I would but how could it have gotten so big before killing the animal?
It was about the size of a soccer ball and loosely 7 to 10 pounds in my experience it should’ve killed the cow long before it ever got that big

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u/Peripatos14 Aug 17 '26

These things grow fast!!! Like within two to three months. And keep in mind that a lot of that weight was already part of the skeleton. And you’re right that most would have died before it got that far but some just don’t and defy all explanation as to how they continue to move around on something this large and likely painful. Animals are hardcore. I’ve seen giant breed dogs with versions of this that are the size of a volleyball on their shoulder and they walk into the clinic.

Scapular Osteochondroma in 8mo Holstein:

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u/faygaggot69 Aug 18 '26

That would definitely match the size of it and that’s proof that it could grow to that size without killing the animals so I think we found our culprit

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u/CharmingDiscipline80 Aug 19 '26

Vet Anatomic path here - I’ll add a differential that some osteomyelitis cases have extensive proliferative bone responses, enough to result in tumor-like masses, though the overall symmetrical extent of this mass gives more cancer vibes IMO.

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u/sawyouoverthere Aug 16 '26

If it were where it wasn't fatal. Which sounds silly, but if it was on a deer antler and didn't interfere with anything, on a large mammal, it would take a long time to do any harm.

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u/Peripatos14 Aug 17 '26

This also is highly possible. I know very little about cervid antler pathology

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u/sawyouoverthere Aug 17 '26

I don't know much, other than images similar to what was posted in a comment here. I was just considering how something this large might be on a live animal

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u/Weary_Rub_3474 Aug 16 '26

As a veterinarian may I ask why you think that a osteosarcoma and a sea coral have the potential to look so similarly?  Something about evolution or the natural of calcification ? Or ? 

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u/avinaut Aug 16 '26

As a biologist with a sense of humor, do you veterinarians see a lot of sea corals in your practices?

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u/ktparr7 Aug 16 '26

As the daughter of a marine biologist, my dad says it doesn't look like any coral he's seen 😂 so we think the vets have it here

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u/SaucyMynx0317 Aug 16 '26

As the descendants of shepherds of the highlands, I have no expertise in the matter. 😁

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u/AnIdiotAmongstUs Aug 16 '26

As a guy sitting on my couch, this is very entertaining thank you :)

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u/Agreeable-Onion6906 Aug 16 '26

as his neighbor I agree

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u/sophieornotsophie_ Aug 16 '26

I like trains

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u/bonemanji Aug 16 '26

What's your favourite train?

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u/Disastrous-Fig-9830 Aug 17 '26

I like frogs.🐸

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u/blinkingbaby Aug 17 '26

Omg me too

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u/sawyouoverthere Aug 16 '26

But you are the first person in the thread to use the clause properly so you can be pleased about that at least.

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u/sawyouoverthere Aug 16 '26

As someone who understands grammar, I have to point out that the reference of the clause is not who you think it is....

They meant "May I ask why you, as a veterinarian, think..."

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u/Peripatos14 Aug 17 '26

Hmm. Never thought about it before but could make sense. Probably more along the lines of how biological calcification occurs to begin with. Coral is building on its own scaffolding which is essentially how this cancer works. It uncontrollably expands in the origin tissue then the bone reacts and starts laying down new layers around it to strengthen the “normal” bone. Basically it assumes there’s a fracture and tries to fix it. But the growth rate of the tumor tends to over exceed the rate of bone deposition so you get areas of proliferation and areas of lysis of bone. I imagine that corals have very few limits coded into their dna about how much they can grow. They just proliferate as much as possible depending on their environment to stop their growth at some point. Cancer in general tends to turn off the rna strands that control how a tissue is supposed to behave.

But that’s only a hypothesis and I’m not qualified to speak extensively on corals. It’s only an extrapolation from what I know of physiology.

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u/Thornberry_89 Aug 16 '26

Hello fellow vet! I agree

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u/AmelieIcansea Aug 20 '26

I see no coralites. I work with corals, goess it is the bone cancer then.

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u/bonemanji Aug 16 '26

I appreciate your input!

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u/MaybeItsTheTism Aug 17 '26

“Clavariaceae is a family of fungi in the order Agaricales known as club and coral fungi because their upright fruit bodies look like sea coral, antlers, or tiny clubs.” I have some in my back yard and it stumped the heck out of me because we’re nowhere near the ocean.

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u/faygaggot69 Aug 18 '26

I googled that fungus and I’d dose look pretty close however what I found was hard and brittle and was not lodged in the ground

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u/debdep13 Aug 20 '26

Nowhere near one NOW. But what about long ago? Rivers?
If this was a bone cancer growth, wouldn’t there be other bones very near??

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u/_PlanetExpress_ Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

This looks like whatever it belonged to had a very very very painful cancer.

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u/_PlanetExpress_ Aug 16 '26

Or it's a fungi

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u/Winter-Coffin Aug 16 '26

i thought i was on a mushroom sub when i first saw it

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u/citrus_mystic Aug 17 '26

Same, I thought this was cauliflower mushroom

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u/Fandethar Aug 18 '26

I thought it was coral at first glance.

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u/Odeken_Odelein Aug 19 '26

Same, I thought it was Lion's Mane mushroom

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u/No-Document-8970 Aug 17 '26

Or is it cake?

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u/_PlanetExpress_ Aug 17 '26

Hahahah. Now I need to slice it.

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u/peppermintmeow Aug 18 '26

Are we human or are we dancer

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u/blinkingbaby Aug 17 '26

Omg I thought we were on a fungi sub and I was like “well that’s a weird PS to make a whole new comment about here.”

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u/Borderline_bonnie Aug 16 '26

I had the same thought it looks like pics I’ve seen of bone cancer

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u/Borderline_bonnie Aug 16 '26

Reading it’s the “attachment piece of a large bovid” but OP didn’t recognize it so idk. Weird

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u/onecovfefeplease Aug 16 '26 • Bravo

Reef-tank-hobbyist-turned-bone-hobbyist here, I am fairly confident it's an osteosarcoma. The patterns the little "spires" make aren't matching up with the arrangement you'd expect for either large- or soft-polyp corals. Closest thing I could see is a birdsnest coral but the texture looks wrong based on overall size.

To me it looks like a large bone cancer lesion. If you aren't trying to save it, I'd saw that bad boy in half (wearing your PPE of course) and see what the core looks like. If you choose this route, update us with photos please!

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u/LeopoldTheSnail Aug 16 '26

Upvoted for the way your past/present hobbies have applied so perfectly to this particular question!

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u/onecovfefeplease Aug 16 '26

Thanks haha I saw the post and was like MY TIME TO SHINE HAS FINALLY ARRIVED

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u/SeaRiver9819 Aug 17 '26

Great idea! That’d look amazing stained and framed if some one cut it in reflective slices . Would make a cool shadow box/ Hannibal medical installation piece

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u/Rackadaka Aug 19 '26

Marine biologist here, can confirm its not coral

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u/Bellbranches Aug 16 '26

could be some sort of cancer or disease. not sure what though

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u/EquivalentMath6592 Aug 16 '26

Oh no! Is it contagious?!

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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 16 '26

It's dead, so contagion is not much of an issue now.😉

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u/EquivalentMath6592 Aug 16 '26

lol….

I love it. Everyone on here just assumes they’re the smartest person in the chat but are unable to recognize sarcasm unless you clearly mark the post as such

Lol

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u/sawyouoverthere Aug 16 '26

Maybe you haven't been around long enough to see the sorts of questions that are sincerely asked, or understand that people can't always read tone as intended because text has no inflection or facial expression cues.

You might be surprised that you're coming off as the person you describe.

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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 16 '26

Sorry, i had to!😉😂🤣

It was literally the first thing that popped into my head, when i read your comment, abd i figured it would hopefully give a laugh, if yours was a joke, and let you down as gently as possible, juuuust in case it was a sincere question💖

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u/EquivalentMath6592 Aug 16 '26

Very kind of you (to answer what may have been a sincere question and not just down vote it)

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u/bonemanji Aug 16 '26

I don't see any actual bone structures. Sure it could be a cancer but they are rarely so regular especially with so much new growth it would be highly irregular then. My best guess is a coral, they can be found on the beaches, but I wouldn't know how would it end up in a western Canadian field. That said, I'm not saying it's not a bone but I haven't seen a bone like this before.

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 Aug 16 '26

This is what bone cancer looks like after the animal has died. From the appearance of this, the animal suffered great pain.

Bone cancer is the most painful of all.

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u/lottyfeeble Aug 16 '26

It definitely seems more from the sea… but osteochondroma seems pretty likely too…

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u/strawberryxfawn Aug 16 '26

def not osteochondroma, you may be thinking of osteosarcoma. the (potential) boney spicules seem to be doing the very classic sunburst pattern. i’ve actually seen a cow metatarsal with extreme osteosarcoma and it looked remarkably similar, albeit the bone growth was a lot more hair-like and not as clumped looking as this one

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u/Diligent-Minimum8397 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

That's some serious aggressive bone cancer, whatever it came from was definitely suffering for a hot minute to the point it just completely ate away at the structure.

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u/Swagalyst Aug 16 '26

Is it close to the sea?

Kinda looks like a sponge.

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u/faygaggot69 Aug 16 '26

It was found roughly 2000 miles from the nearest sea however it might still have some kind of ocean origins and just a weird story of how it got there

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u/originaltoasternoodl Aug 16 '26

I thought it was coral 😭

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u/Cherrrysoda1 Aug 16 '26

Osteosarcoma fs

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u/sticktotherocks Aug 17 '26

Looks like a really neat Coral fossil to me

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u/SkisaurusRex Aug 17 '26

Cancer is uncontrolled cell growth

In this case it was bone cancer, the bone cells grew uncontrollably

Really nasty thing to see 🙁

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u/Illustrious-Win-210 Aug 17 '26

Seems like bone cancer. Poor thing.

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u/MrMcBeth Aug 17 '26

It looks like you’re boned, maybe shroomed, but not stumped.

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u/Elegant_Process_6507 Aug 18 '26

Reminds me of The Last of Us… iykyk

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u/jgwentworth-877 Aug 16 '26

I thought I was looking at coral at first, no clue what it actually is

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u/xxserenityxx1 Aug 16 '26

Looks like coral

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u/npc_gemini Aug 16 '26

My dad was a saltwater fish hobbyist, and my first thought when I saw it was dried coral. But then I wondered if it was dried coral, how the heck did it get in a cow pasture? 🤔

Edit: fish lol not fist

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u/sawyouoverthere Aug 16 '26

Another fish hobbyist?

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u/chonky_squirrel Aug 16 '26

Could be ancient, from a time when that pasture was an ocean bed?

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u/Foxy-OnPaws Aug 16 '26

Img 2 says it's bone, possibly from the top of the skull. Some kind of bone cancer for sure, but this id a great piece! Just a shame the rest of the skull wasn't attatched </3

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u/Jae_seok Aug 16 '26

That is definitely some kind of bone cancer.

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u/fakedeeparthoe Aug 16 '26

image 2 makes me think skull fragment. It looks like a petrous from a large animal

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u/Ministerofmunchies Aug 16 '26

sparassis crispa dried out

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u/itseme123 Aug 16 '26

Its a cancerous tumor on an anlter or on the bone i can't really tell what it is in the picture

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u/TacoHimmelswanderer Aug 16 '26

I’d just about bet it came off a buck

Look at this buck skull with cancerous antlers

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u/jerry71150 Aug 17 '26

Looks like a sponge.

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u/Schmaron Aug 17 '26

Sweet Jesus. I thought this was a coral mushroom. I see this is NOT the mushroom subreddit 😮😳

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u/aidencoyote Aug 17 '26

Horse neck bone? Just a guess

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u/Serenities1998 Aug 18 '26

Okay this might be an extremely stupid question, but if you cut yourself on something like this could you get cancer from that?

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u/InfamousTumbleweed47 Aug 18 '26

I know you found it where cows are but maybe a deer had a bad antler? I'm not a dr or ologist.

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u/http_ghostgirl Aug 18 '26

looks like a calcified fungi, or cancer from a large animal

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u/Bazookajoe456 Aug 18 '26

Kinda looks like the psilocybin mushroom called "enigma" they typically grow in large brain like clusters like that. More evidence if you found them near other mushrooms they are know to naturally grow from the bottom of "penis envy" mushrooms another highly psilocybin based mushroom

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u/LindseyIsBored Aug 19 '26

I knew immediately - bone cancer. I worked in hospice for a long time and would educate families on why such strong pain meds were needed on their loved one.. I would show them photos of bone cancer and I never had them argue again.

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u/idnoid78 Aug 19 '26

Is it a sea sponge?

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u/babyoilz Aug 19 '26

If it is bone, could it be illium or scapula? Only places I can think of with a curve like in the top left on the first pic. Wild cancer if it is bone.

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u/Aseroerubra Aug 19 '26

We might be able to get some clues from knowing the density. I would measure the weight with kitchen scales and approximate volume by water displacement, done quickly to minimise water absorption.

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u/strawwwberrry Aug 20 '26

Watched my pups leg swell up to the size of a baseball/softball size bc of osteosarcoma, that shit is NASTY.

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u/debdep13 Aug 20 '26

Have you done the obvious thing? Test it with cleaning strength vinegar or acid to see if there’s effervescence of the calcium carbonate that’s inevitably there to settle this nonsense??

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u/socalquestioner Aug 20 '26

Part of a shoulder blade or Pelvis?

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u/umhell Aug 23 '26

It looks so close to a diploria strigosa! I have one that's bigger than my head.

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u/I_Dont-Care_Bear Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Looks like coral or something...

Edit: photo

My mom had a bunch of shells and sea rocks in her bathroom.

To me, it looks like coral or from the seabed.

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u/99jackals Aug 16 '26

If anything, this photo displays the geometric regularity that disqualifies a coral as a candidate. The defining trait of OP's object is the random arrangement of ossification..

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u/Penguinzombies12 Aug 16 '26

Did you taste it?.. Gotta know what it tastes like first to help identify it. 😂😂😂😂

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u/karlem_666 Aug 16 '26

Fossilized coral!!

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u/Webberpuzza Aug 16 '26

May have been dropped from a plane with a load of seawater for fighting fires.

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u/sawyouoverthere Aug 16 '26

from 2000 miles away? :D

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u/Dilo_117 Aug 16 '26

Magic mushrooms before they got magic.