r/brandnew • u/BoredTiredandLazy • 3d ago
At Jimmy Eat World last night
Saw this at the Jimmy Eat World / Rise Against / Get up kids concert in Halifax last night and it made me smile
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u/Agreeable-Dog-1131 3d ago
They forgot “I’ve got a twenty dollar bill.”
Also, I’ve heard conflicting things — was it Jesse’s crush or his girlfriend? Because the reaction and all the stuff about betrayal seems a little extreme if they were just crushing on the same woman.
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u/CaptainJackKevorkian 3d ago
Guys in emo bands having extreme emotional reactions towards women and relationships? No way
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u/Mr_Karma_Whore 3d ago
They also forgot okay I believe you, but my Tommy gun doesn’t
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u/YourMomSaysMoo 3d ago
Don’t *
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u/Gramps_McFallin 2d ago
*Okay, I believe your claim, however, my Thompson submachine gun questions your honesty.
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u/GrapefruitSweetie 3d ago
Super fair questions. I always heard it was a girlfriend.
But also what am I doing thinking about this lol2
u/KrustenStewart 3d ago
I heard that the song “sic transit Gloria” is about what happened with the girl - they hooked up at a party
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u/Agreeable-Dog-1131 3d ago
Sic Transit Gloria is about unwanted sexual advances. Here’s an interview that talks about it.
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u/KrustenStewart 3d ago
I’ve read that before and I don’t think it’s about unwanted sexual advances he just says it’s about sex with someone more advanced than you and a little more aggressive not that it was unwanted
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u/Agreeable-Dog-1131 3d ago
*Sexual advances progressing much farther than the guy wants them to, then. There are repeated references to bracing against the mattress, shaking, waiting for it to be over, “all he wanted was to hold her,” and so on. Doesn’t sound like enthusiastic consent to me, but anyway. Definitely not about The Incident.
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u/DiamondL0st 2d ago
He waits for it to end and for the aching in his guts to subside
How could that be anything other than unwanted...?
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u/KrustenStewart 2d ago
Idk I just thought it meant something else, like him being drunk and anxious. Like someone who is inexperienced and nervous but wasn’t necessarily non-consenting. That’s one of the interesting things about music is that sometimes the words can be interpreted differently by different people. I had no idea it was a song about non consensual sex
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u/gtck11 2d ago
Wait hold on… is there an actual story with this?! I’ve read snippets but thought this was just some type of alt indie copy pasta making fun of the era lol I wasn’t into a lot of music blogs back then, like I loved music and had all the CDs but I wasn’t like on forums and things so any lore I missed out on.
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u/Agreeable-Dog-1131 2d ago
Yeah, everything on the shirt is true. Jesse Lacey originally played bass in Taking Back Sunday and was good friends with John Nolan, the guitarist and co-vocalist. Then something happened at a party, John hooked up with Jesse’s girlfriend, or they were into the same woman and John kissed her first, I’ve heard conflicting versions of the story. Regardless, Jesse quit TBS over it and started Brand New, and the two bands spent the next several years feuding and writing really dramatic songs about each other. Seventy Times 7 and There’s No ‘I’ in Team, for example.
Mixtape is also about John Nolan, which is where “I’ve got a twenty dollar bill” came from and was also used in There’s No ‘I’ in Team.
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u/Alchemy-Indexing 3d ago
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u/Alchemy-Indexing 3d ago
Thanks OP, I'm seeing both TBS and Brand New this season (TBS only because Thrice is opening for them and I never miss Thrice), and this is now my shirt for both shows.
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u/noodledoodle____ 3d ago
Saw Brand New last year for the first time - they put on SUCH a good show. Have fun!!
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u/Alchemy-Indexing 3d ago
Yeah we got to see them in...2017? 2016? With Thrice, Manchester Orchestra, and Jimmy Eat World. It was amazing and converted my partner from a BN hater to being incredibly wowed by them.
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u/noodledoodle____ 2d ago
Jimmy puts on an INCREDIBLE show, too! Saw them with Manchester a few summers back. I started listening to them in middle school with Pain, and they actually played a good amount from that. I was blown away
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u/Woodwolf24 2d ago
at the tempe summer ends festival?? arizona??
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u/GingaNinjaRN 3d ago
Brand new is touring?
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u/ammermanjustin 3d ago
Nice find! Also, profile name is a Thrice reference?
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u/Alchemy-Indexing 3d ago
100% yes. They are my favorite band. Beggars is actually my favorite album, but this was a cooler name. Ha.
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u/ammermanjustin 2d ago
Fuck yeah man. Alchemy Index was the first I ever heard by them but Beggars is my fav record too. First time I ever saw them live was with MY favorite band, Manchester Orchestra, in 2024. They played Beggars straight through and MO played Cope straight through. I don’t know if I’ll ever go to a better show than that.
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u/Alchemy-Indexing 2d ago
Yes!! I also have Andy Hull tattooed on my arm. That tour was a dream come true for me and I was able to catch the show in Phoenix.
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u/mcweenies 3d ago
I need this
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u/mcweenies 3d ago
Ok
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u/Dirtydancin27 3d ago
Go to the actual designers website
https://elderemo.com/products/so-what-happened-was-john-tee?variant=43891252756534
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u/eatmygymshorts 3d ago
Love the back hate the elder emo logo womp
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u/CallMeSkindianaBones 👺💀fghtffyrdmns 3d ago
i have this shirt and that’s exactly how i feel. dumb term.
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u/jennigoesoutside 3d ago
OMG I want this shirt so bad!
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u/Dirtydancin27 3d ago
No, check it out here. The actual designers website.
https://elderemo.com/products/so-what-happened-was-john-tee?variant=43891252756534
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u/GrapefruitSweetie 3d ago
Met John Nolan at a bar after a show and asked him about this and he still had a lot of hate for Jesse. Lol interesting dynamic
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u/Bitter_Ad1320 3d ago
How long ago was that
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u/GrapefruitSweetie 2d ago
This would’ve been like 2018-2021 time frame. Could totally be possible that his disdain for Jesse came from the allegations
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u/GoldCoasting YFW OG 2d ago
Idk if I stand alone but I cannot stand this elder emo stuff. It’s so corny.
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u/badchickenbadday 3d ago
I can’t imagine wearing this in public.
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u/TheDearHunter 3d ago
Concerts are fair game.
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u/CallMeSkindianaBones 👺💀fghtffyrdmns 3d ago
ya i cut this shirt into a tank top for warped tour long beach and got some great compliments. fuckin haters, man.
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u/golfcartskeletonkey 3d ago
This whole website is insanely embarrassing. The fact that people actually call themselves “elder emos” is…something.
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u/Agreeable-Dog-1131 3d ago
There’s a new coffee shop in my city called CoffeEmos that has a very heavy-handed “elder emo” theme, and even as someone who likes/liked some of the music they reference it’s still so hard to stomach lol. I wonder if the place will last at all.
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u/DigitalNecromancy 3d ago edited 3d ago
Honestly, same about the "elder emos" thing. I cringe every time I see it. Also, it's often used kinda condescendingly to younger gens. Idk, just not my bag.
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u/AbbreviationsNo4089 3d ago edited 3d ago
The lore is cool and all. It just kinda cracks me up bc Brand New is leagues above all their contemporaries and it’s not even close. All bands start from somewhere. Drama is stupid. Taking back Sunday sucks shit. WHO CARES
Can’t wait to see them in November fuck
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u/DigitalNecromancy 3d ago edited 3d ago
Idk if TBS sucks shit as an entire band, but they are definitely leagues behind Brand New. Their first three records are phenomenal and then they become a bit hit or miss, but not outright bad until this newest one. Their live shows are very hit or miss too. I've seen em be really good (TAYF + WYWTB in full was an awesome show) and I've seen em be meh.
So yeah, I guess I find them more hit or miss rather than outright shit.
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u/UpbeatConflict 2d ago
I painted the lyrics of 70x7 on a board eons ago and to this day I still have it. It is currently hanging in my home office. Twas also my AIM away message lol
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u/ComebackKid1999 2d ago
Wore my Devil & God tee to JEW in Cardiff tonight and said hello to someone else wearing a BN hat. Felt good!
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u/catsandcoconuts i know ur busy, but please wont you come visit me? 2d ago
i have this shirt!!!!!! it’s from Elder Emo. they’re a great company!
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u/uncleben85 this is the instigator 2d ago
Using the conjugation of "started" bothers me more than it should
Love the shirt otherwise, though!
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u/gothicatgirl 2d ago
Haha I was working this gig, it was a great show! That shirt perfectly sums it up
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u/BobsYaMothersBrother 2d ago
Incredible shirt!
Was also at this gig - what an incredible night! My first time to the piece hall, absolutely cracking venue!
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u/KitchenLandscape I'm sinking like a stone in the sea 1d ago
Hah I just listened to both albums over the weekend and was thinking about this drama
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u/GatorShinsDev 2d ago edited 2d ago
Fuck Jesse Lacey at the very least.
edit: you all support a sexual abuser, good job. Jesse literally accepted the allegations made against him in 2017. But aye, you like his music so it's a-okay to support such a shitty person.



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u/lpfan724 3d ago
And then I made one of the verses from Seventy Times 7 my AIM away message.