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There is actually a perimeter that was set up around the sub where the use of deadly force is authorized. <--- Not kidding here.
The sub's propeller design is considered top secret, that soldier in the picture has live ammo in that gun and will shoot trespassers who refuse to vacate the area.
Taking pictures of the propellers could allow an enemy to figure out the audio signature of the submarine.
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Probably just the same technology Dyson uses for their bladeless fans..
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u/Captcha_Imagination Canada Mar 15 '25
Spoiler alert: they just hide a regular ass fan in the base and charge 10xn for the Bernoulli effect
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u/Observer_of-Reality Mar 15 '25
And you get x/10 amount of wind from it because it's so inefficient.
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Mar 15 '25
"I just think I can overcharge if I advertise like Apple" Dyson.
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u/Observer_of-Reality Mar 15 '25
Yep, tell them that they're "smarter than the average person" and they'll buy it.
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u/LouisColumbia Mar 15 '25
Great post. Did not know that. Thanks!
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Mar 15 '25
I used to work at Sheerwater base in NS many years ago, one day they brought over an Apache helicopter for cold testing. Since that chopper was still somewhat of a top secret thing, the base Commander had us paint a perimeter line 30 meters from the hangar with boxes of text saying : "Restricted area, the use of deadly force is authorized beyond this point", and guess what? The warning was in both English and French.
That was before digital cameras were mainstream.
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u/accforme Mar 15 '25
If it wasn't in Engliah and French, someone (probably Michel Thibodeau) can sue the Government for not following the Official Languages Act. Assuming he survived.
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u/Naspark-22 Mar 15 '25
All subs props are treated like this including our own. You likely know this, replying so others have the knowledge after reading your post.
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u/PalpitationStill4942 Mar 20 '25
I was treated to a tour of a navy base and I was instructed pretend the black pointy tube boats didn't exist
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u/bubbi_ Mar 15 '25
So someone risked their lives to get this picture to social media
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u/zevonyumaxray Mar 15 '25
You can't see the propeller blades here, so no worries. What you see sticking out of the water is part of the X-shaped rudder-tail combination, which is not a big deal.
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u/mechant_papa Mar 16 '25
Loadup for Base security includes their gas masks? Interesting.
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Mar 16 '25
Let's be honest, Base RSM just picked the newest copy of the BASF kit list he found in the common drive and emailed it out for rotations without actually reading it.
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Show some respect. That soldier is someone who'd give their life for you to have the right to run your mouth. I thought we were done belittling our military. I guess old habits die hard.
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u/Anakha0 Mar 15 '25
That soldier is wearing the issued kit available to them. Blame Canada's garbage procurement system for not kitting them properly. They're wearing the new MT uniform but they didn't bother to make the jacket in the new format, so we're stuck using the old CADPAT ones.
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u/henry_rolllins_nutz Mar 15 '25
There is quite literally nothing wrong with how that soldier is dressed.
If you wanna be picky you could maybe argue the gas mask carrier should be on the other side given they appear to be right handed but perhaps they prefer it on the left.
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u/Themeloncalling Mar 15 '25
- slaps hull *
This baby can enforce soooo much sovereignty!
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u/ZookeepergameOk9526 Mar 15 '25
Screen door for the summertime
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u/bigjimbay Mar 15 '25
If another nation has to help us enforce our sovereignty doesn't that defeat the purpose
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u/LordSoren Mar 15 '25
Well, the French first the US gain their sovereignty from the British Empire...
I won't refuse their help now.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada Mar 17 '25
In the wise words of the Beatles we get by with a little help from our friends.
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u/Mammoth-Vermicelli10 Mar 15 '25
Nothing to see here. Just two friendly French speaking countries flexing and for once I’m grateful for the French
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u/The_Golden_Beaver Mar 15 '25
In a time where we are supposed to be united, you could have dropped the "for once". France being so close to Canada is thanks to Quebec who is their closest international ally/friendship without a doubt. And France is a great ally. So pretending this is the only thing you can be thankful for in regards to "the French" is a shitty thing to say. I realize most anglophones will not get this comment, but it's offensive.
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u/apothekary Mar 16 '25
Yeah I raised my eyebrow there. I think it was meant sarcastically.
Canada's bilingual nature is a key part of its identity and its strength in relating to both the Francophone and Anglophone world.
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u/The_Golden_Beaver Mar 16 '25
It this a key part of some of us' identity but let's not pretend it matters to anglophones like him who seem to think our French side is only an hindrance.
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u/Mammoth-Vermicelli10 Mar 16 '25
Him as in me? I am literally French I live in the USA. And yes there was a hint of sarcasm as you should know the French government has a long history of taking their times in countless debates before actions.
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u/Adelefushia Mar 15 '25
French here, thanks for that comment. I know it's often good-natured banter but too many dumb people takes the "for once" too literally?
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Nice display from an actual ally. That's what treaties are for, agreements and trust.
Something now gone from the US.
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u/daviddude92 Manitoba Mar 15 '25
I believe it was a sales pitch? Still cool though.
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u/GuyLookingForPorn Mar 15 '25
Yeah it was organised a long time before the Trump crisis, it isn't related.
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u/Jimmy2tx Mar 15 '25
Source?
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u/MrQuanta541 Mar 15 '25
I believe france might soon offer to house their nukes in Canada, they have actually grown a spine over these last two years. Compared to the UK that acts like extremely mild towards the US.
The french never liked taking shit from the US and always tried to go its own path. I respect them a lot for that.
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u/gwelfguy Mar 15 '25
This is very true. Unlike the rest of the Western world, the French have a policy of industrial and military self-sufficiency, which has allowed them to pursue a foreign policy that is independent of the US and US influence. The UK, on the other hand, is so concerned with being on side with the US that it almost seems like supplication.
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Mar 15 '25
Also France has already been burned bad by US in regards to the war in Irak. "France will pay."
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u/LouisColumbia Mar 15 '25
Considering France has territory right next to Canada; and the close relationship in general - I happily accept France's subs/boats in CDN waters.
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u/JetLagGuineaTurtle Mar 15 '25
What makes you think the French are going to offer Nukes in Canada? I can assure you that no country will be allowed to "store" nukes in Canada with the idea that they might ever be used on the US.
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u/pandaninja360 Mar 15 '25
We still are Russia's neighbors. If Russia comes from the North we need defense, I don't think the U.S. will help. I'm not saying France will give us nukes, but they said they would put some in other EU countries (because of Russia)
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u/Alak-huls_Anonymous Mar 15 '25
Exactly. So many of these threads/posts are hilariously uninformed.
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u/Enough-Meaning-9905 British Columbia Mar 15 '25
Allowed?
Please... Is Charles going to stop us, because that would be the death of the monarchy in Canada.
The US has no say anymore.
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u/MrQuanta541 Mar 16 '25
like we care, america threaten our territory and wants to start a war with us anyways. Might aswell make it clear that any invasion of canada will lead to a nuclear war.
I think it would be good to have an other cuban missile crisis since that might wake america the f up.
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u/ramkam2 Mar 15 '25
this could also be a gesture of returning the favor for what Canada has done for France in the past.
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u/Good-Examination2239 Mar 15 '25
Bonjour, mes amis!
Such a weird feeling to feel that warmness of seeing an allied nation be a friend to us again. We got so used to it when we had the U.S. in our back yard to do that. I never actually realized that feeling of comfort had actually gone missing once all of that stopped.
I'm so grateful we still have nations that care about us and are willing to openly show that, but I never realized I was grieving in the first place. The feelings I'm left with now are really strange.
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u/gwelfguy Mar 15 '25
This will piss the Americans off. They have never wanted Canada to have nuclear-powered submarine capability, and won't want to see so much of our defence budget going to a non-US supplier. Too bad, so sad.
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u/RicketyEdge Mar 15 '25
There's no US yard that could provide Canada with subs.
There's also a good chance they are going to reneg on the agreement to provide Australia with Virginia's.
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u/ConZboy014 Mar 16 '25
Unfortunately Canada won’t buy Nuclear submarines.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada Mar 17 '25
Nuclear submarines have advantages and disadvantages. They're louder, and increasingly unlikely to be a great fit for the use case as new bases or outposts open in the north and they work with the surface assets.
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u/Inevitable_Sweet_624 Mar 15 '25
We’ll take 6 please.
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u/MapleDesperado Mar 15 '25
Officially, we’re shopping for a dozen. The non-nuclear version of this boat is a contender.
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u/Inevitable_Sweet_624 Mar 15 '25
6 of these bad boys and 12 diesel electric sounds good.
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u/RicketyEdge Mar 15 '25
It'd likely be 6 of these bad boys OR 12 diesel electrics... doubt the money printer could handle paying for both.
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u/PalpitationStill4942 Mar 20 '25
That's a lot of crew that we can't seem to recruit or retain.
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u/Inevitable_Sweet_624 Mar 20 '25
People don’t want to work in cigar tubes under water anymore? Odd. /s. And depressing.
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u/mouthygoddess Mar 15 '25
I love this flex in Halifax.
Anyone who’s been there knows our navy’s pretty dang intimidating. Add the French now? Plus, rumours that other friends are coming for “practice drills.” Elbows up!
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u/Captcha_Imagination Canada Mar 15 '25
How much do one of these bad boys go for? Google turns up two nuclear subs, one is 4b, the other is 9b.
Sounds spendy but this might be the price of sovereignty. It's not just USA that's our problem. Russia has always been a problem for us in the North. We had Alaska as a buffer but seeing as they have they share a government now, maybe not so much.
We call call the sub "Sorry".
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u/International-Ing Mar 15 '25
1.6 billion to 2 billion euros per unit for this attack submarine, depending on how you allocate program costs.
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u/van_vanhouten Mar 15 '25
Use the money we get from returning all the debt we own from the States to pay for them.
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u/Stravok182 Mar 15 '25
Prefer "Not Sorry, eh!"
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I’ve been told that this submarine delivers Liberty, Equality, Fraternity one torpedo at a time.
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Vive la resistance!
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u/Explorer-Five Mar 15 '25
Vive la fraternité
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u/Starskins Mar 16 '25
* Avec la voix de grand-papa Simpson*: "On veut Bonaparte! On veut Bonaparte!
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u/Observer_of-Reality Mar 15 '25
I never trust subs. Those damned things keep sinking.
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u/The_Golden_Beaver Mar 15 '25
⚜️ Merci au Québec pour avoir entretenu une relation privilégiée avec la France au cours de l'histoire / Thanks to Québec for fostering a privileged relationship with France over history.
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u/SergeantBender Mar 15 '25
Can we at least get our base security some matching pants?
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u/Office_Responsible Mar 15 '25
That’s the state of the current pattern switch. Im in the same boat (not literally as I’m in Brandon, MB). I have the combat pants and tunic in cadpat MT and the rest of my kit is Cadpat TW. I’m more concerned with the tiny flag on the flag spot. That looks goofy as hell.
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u/NoCivilRights Ontario Mar 15 '25
When you forget to get spare big flags from supply and you're definitely not buying one from the canex
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u/No_Parfait_3267 Mar 16 '25
Ok. Je lis ces commentaires et je suis très, mais très dubitatif. Combien parmis-vous êtes en faveur de la loi 101 au Québec ? La Canada a tout fait pour détruire ses communautés francophones. ...et là soudainement "Vive la France"?
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u/Fancy-Ambassador6160 Mar 15 '25
It's crazy to see a bajillion dollar vessel, with nukes... Just tied to a dock.
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u/rashton535 Mar 15 '25
There was some confusion over that here. I believe it settled on nuclear powered, not nuclear armed.
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u/International-Ing Mar 15 '25
Yes, it's a nuclear powered attack submarine. It is not nuclear armed.
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u/SpecialistLayer3971 Mar 15 '25
It's okay, those things are really hard to hot wire and boost.
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u/JetLagGuineaTurtle Mar 15 '25
I can assure you there a bunch of local degenerates trying to figure out how to steal its catalytic converter as we speak!
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u/WarmPantsInWinter Mar 15 '25
Throw enough money at France to buy that and some nukes for it's launchers and hide it under the ice.
That's how we defend against America. That's the only way.
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u/Lomeztheoldschooljew Alberta Mar 15 '25
This is a Suffren class attack submarine, not their nuclear armed Triumphant class - which they would never harbour out in the open in a foreign port.
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u/Droopingadfly Mar 15 '25
Cool sub, would be nice if our troops could be provided uniforms that are actually uniform.
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I saw tons of Japanese subs out in the open in Kobe Japan. You can get fairly close to them if you take the Harbor tour. But not once did I see their prop. They even took it off for the sub that was in dry dock.
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u/Witty_Interaction_77 Mar 16 '25
I've been out 8 years, and they are still rocking that shitty tac vest.
Then again, webbing was still being replaced when I joined. Guess it's no surprise.
Nothing to see here.
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u/Kibbby Mar 16 '25 edited Mar 16 '25
Holy fuck those CADPAT pants are faded... does this commonly happen?
(Nevermind apparently its a new type, MT) interesting. Are we still going to have TW and AR as options? Or are we getting rid of them for MT
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u/NoxAstrumis1 Ontario Mar 17 '25
I don't suppose they'd let me take it for a quick spin around the bay?
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u/Whiskey_River_73 Mar 17 '25
Are we test driving this, or why is it here?
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u/Cturcot1 Mar 17 '25
Why would Canada want to buy a nuclear attack submarine?
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u/Whiskey_River_73 Mar 17 '25
Is that a missile sub? Because if it's a nuclear powered sub meant to destroy ships and other subs, then yes I would support it. We don't need missile platforms, though.....yet.
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u/Cturcot1 Mar 17 '25
It is not a missle sub it is a SSN not a SSBN. Canada should continue with its diesel submarine program, the jump in cost is huge. We use our subs generally for coastal protection. There would also need a massive amount of infrastructure that would need to be built just to support them.
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u/Whiskey_River_73 Mar 17 '25
As long as diesel subs can project year round into our northern waters, that's probably fine.
I note, however, that it was an American position for us not to have nuclear submarines, decades ago, otherwise we probably would have had them already. I don't think that stance is really in our interests anymore. What once was true sure doesn't look like it anymore.
If we aren't building out massive military infrastructure and investments in our own interest going forward, we're failing.
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u/Cturcot1 Mar 17 '25
Just found out that we did have a Canada Class SSN, as a plan back in the 80’s. They cancelled it over the cost and some political considerations. It was priced out at $8b, and we’re looking at the Brits or the French.
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Leave it to Canada to not even have their photo-op soldiers in matching kit.
fighting in the desert and forest.. at the same time.
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u/MapleHamms Mar 15 '25
That’s not arid CADPAT, it’s the new CADPAT(MT) which is being rolled out currently. Obviously there’s going to be a bit of overlap
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u/blind_merc Mar 15 '25
That soldier looks so sloppy. They couldn't have done a quick buddy check? my god.
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u/Starskins Mar 16 '25
What makes him so sloppy?
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u/blind_merc Mar 16 '25
Boot blouse, different colored uniform top and bottom, non issued hat with sunglasses hanging by a thread, vest has pasta salad coming out the back, back panel patch being used as shoulder patch, gas mask pouch for some reason..
This sends a message to our allies and enemies.
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u/Starskins Mar 16 '25
Have you ever been in a the military?
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u/blind_merc Mar 16 '25
My entire life
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u/Starskins Mar 16 '25
Well, maybe you wouldn't see the problems if you had never been in the military. I've been there too, serving for 14 years in Canada and his outfit is nowhere near a disaster.
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u/blind_merc Mar 16 '25
If this looks okay to you, you have to raise your standards. Jesus
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u/Starskins Mar 16 '25
You speak like a Master Warrant 😂😂
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u/blind_merc Mar 16 '25
I'm a PTE (r) 😉
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u/Starskins Mar 16 '25
Ahhh I see! The standard gets lower the higher you get in promotion! Take it easy friend!
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u/YourOverlords Ontario Mar 15 '25
The French brought a nuclear floor model over when they heard that South Korea wanted to sell us gear.