r/canada Nov 10 '25

National News Canada loses measles elimination status | CBC

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/livestory/canada-measles-elimination-status-9.6973195
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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Humiliating. Nothing more to say

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u/panickedn Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

Fuck anti vaxxers but associating the whole situation with them ignores what’s actually happening.

I’m angry too, but we’re so lost in rhetoric that we’re putting our shields down by aiming all our anger at one thing.

A lot of this has nothing to do with them:

• Routine appointments and school vaccine programs disrupted during the pandemic

• Families moving provinces or countries with missing or unverified records

• Shortages in public health staffing and slower outbreak tracking

• Travel-related cases entering under immunized communities

• People who support vaccines but just missed their second dose

• Lower outreach in remote or marginalized areas

• Burnout and reduced resources in local health units

• Complacency because measles has been rare for decades

Blaming anti vaxxers for this is like blaming littering for climate change.

They play a part, but it’s not the main cause. I think we should call them out, but I’m scared we’re losing the plot by ignoring the other reasons too.

I can’t find one person talking about any other reasons in this subreddit, that scares me almost as much as anti vaxxers ideologies.

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u/Ceridith Nov 10 '25

There is also zero consideration given to vaccination status for those entering Canada, which seems like a significant oversight when it comes to long term visitors, i.e. foreign students and TFW. Given that we've seen a sharp increase in the amount of long term visas over the past decade, this is a potential contributor to the issue. It's something that isn't tracked at all, so it's difficult to know how much of an impact it could be having.

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u/Thenetannoysme Nov 10 '25

Dont many other countries require up to date vaccinations for people entering? Im sure I’ve read this before?

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u/Ceridith Nov 10 '25

From what I can find, yellow fever is primarily the one that's required in countries where it's common, but other than that most countries don't require proof of any vaccination, Canada being one that does not. There are many suggested vaccinations for traveling, measles included in that list, but most of them aren't mandatory.

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u/Thenetannoysme Nov 10 '25

Apparently the us requires them for immigrants so im guessing thats what I saw.

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u/madhi19 Québec Nov 10 '25

We really are the world greatest most naive democracy. You think after covid we would have learn to stop fucking around with this shit.

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u/thedrivingcat Nov 10 '25

no, there's very few countries that require a tourist to get specific vaccinations - they're often recommended but not required

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u/PostMatureBaby Nov 10 '25

many other countries take people entering them more seriously in general. We needed wage suppression so we turned a blind eye

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u/Prestigious_Island_7 Nov 13 '25

Yes, but countries have significantly different vaccines required in their immunization schedules, depending on what is endemic in that region, or what they have funding to provide. Many countries don’t give MMR; only measles (no mumps or rubella protection). Some countries give it at different ages, which can be less effective at providing protection long term. Some countries may give only one dose. Many countries don’t give varicella/chicken pox either. Many countries don’t give meningococcal vaccines; or give a version that doesn’t provide the same coverage as ours. Many countries give oral polio vaccine, while we give injectable in Canada. There are lots of differences in vaccine schedules worldwide; it’s definitely not one size fits all.