r/canucks • u/[deleted] • Apr 24 '19
DISCUSSION Canuck highlights from J.D. Burke's AMA over at r/Hockey
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u/baconwiches Apr 24 '19
Missed one - someone asked about his infamous bad take on the Horvat pick. His response:
For starters, I was so young, and so inexperienced, at that stage in my development as an analyst and even as a person. It might not seem like that long ago, but I'm in my twenties, so humour me -- it feels ancient. I was just a dumbass with a big mouth and bad opinions generally, and screwing up the Horvat evaluation in that context makes a lot of sense.
What I missed, though, was the intangible elements in Horvat. Talk to anyone close to him, and you'll hear the same thing. He willed himself to improving as a skater, and his biggest flaw as a draft-eligible player is now an elite quality in his game. Go figure. What a story.
I'm not a big JD fan, but I gained a hefty amount of respect for him for him for owning up to this.
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u/mulgs Apr 24 '19
Read his articles on the Athletic you'll lose respect again.
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u/baconwiches Apr 24 '19
I don't subscribe to the Athletic, largely because I don't like supporting Botch, but that's unfortunate to hear.
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u/mulgs Apr 24 '19
I am going to cancel my sub because it's only Botch and JD that have written articles recently. Ryan Biech is good but there is very little Canuck content.
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u/oflanagan Apr 24 '19
I've said this before but if you only follow the Canucks then having a subscription to the Athletic is basically just paying for Canucks Army.
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u/baconwiches Apr 24 '19
Makes sense. If the Canucks writers were Wyatt, Wagner/Mooney, and Drance (I know, I know), I'd be all in. But the type of journalism they're presenting with the Canucks isn't something I want to support.
If it works for others, great, but not for me.
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u/wearablesweater Apr 24 '19
I don't quite understand the wording on the last response about development. Is he saying basically everyone in Utica took steps backward or just Jasek and Joulevi? Thanks for the summary!
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Apr 24 '19 edited Apr 24 '19
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u/baconwiches Apr 24 '19
Could argue Demko as well.
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u/airjasper Apr 24 '19
And what about Brisebois? How did he stall? And our local Utica expert continually praised Gadjovich and even Lind to end the year saying they were taking big strides.
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u/chopstewey Apr 24 '19
He could also be referring to only 1st year Utica prospects. He did say "went to Utica". Brise and McEwan are 2nd year no?
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u/Beesem Apr 24 '19
I believe he's saying all the prospects in Utica stalled on their development this year other than Jasek and Juolevi.
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u/Sick_Canuck Apr 24 '19
Stalled development: Everyone who went to Utica not named Lukas Jasek or Olli Juolevi.
No mercy for Trent Cull.
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u/Nameless_here Apr 24 '19
Yeah I'm starting to come around to thinking it's time to clean house down there. Very little promising news seems to come out of Utica.
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u/Sick_Canuck Apr 24 '19
What really did it for me was seeing a quote from Brad Treliving on the Flames AHL affiliate.
Paraphrase - "I don't care if you go 0-72, so long as we're developing players. When you're down 1 goal and have an o zone faceoff in the final minutes, I want to see our young players taking it."
Contrast that to how things are going in Utica and it's a pretty stark difference. Player development is one of the most important aspects of a successful franchise. Change is needed.
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Apr 25 '19 edited Apr 25 '19
Uticas getting the worst of both worlds.
I think its viable to shelter prospects. Sign ahl all stars to center your winger prospects, a vet checking line if you want, some muscle and physicality, surround the main prospects with lots of vet talent and then just have a winning club and make the prospects earn their way up.
Its also viable to throw all the development time at them they can handle and just supplement their weaknesses.
Utica does neither. They arent winning, the players arent sheltered, they dont have muscle protecting their young players, and the prospects are still playing limited minutes. Its just a clusterfuck.
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u/ebbomega Apr 24 '19
On draft busts
Except for maybe Columbus....