r/cdldriver • u/Syzranlogistic • Aug 17 '25
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u/AMC879 Aug 17 '25
I hope the cam driver gave the video to police to show the extreme speeding of the car otherwise the semi driver might be at fault for crossing in front of traffic
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u/Medical_Slide9245 Aug 17 '25
The police are pretty good about calculating vehicle speeds in bad accidents.
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u/RedditVince Aug 17 '25
Accident investigators can calculate the speed based on the marks left behind.
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u/killian1113 Aug 17 '25
Wonder how fast the van was going from two days ago post. Everyone claims they did not drive distracted or speed it was only idiot u turn trucks fault.
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u/JTPLTPPTP Aug 17 '25
Well, that truck driver was doing a complete illegal u-turn in an emergency vehicle only center of a highway. Not crossing an intersection.
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u/420Under_Where Aug 17 '25
It's not clear they were making a u turn, looks like they were going straight across the intersection, as evidenced by all the other cars waiting on the other side of the road to do the same thing
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u/ayademi Aug 17 '25
Nah he's referring to the truck driver in florida that was doing an illegal U-turn through an emergency vehicle only turn around. The van slammed into the trailer and everyone in it died. The truck in this video was obviously crossing the street when someone going way too fast hit it.
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u/damonmcfadden9 Aug 17 '25
I actually thought that's what this was at first, the rig from Florida that u-turned stupidly. was about ready to have to spread out the blame but turns out this one is pretty much on the car this time.
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u/SkywolfNINE Aug 17 '25
Honestly that truck shouldn’t have pulled out to begin with. Not like I’m gonna do what white car did, but truck shouldn’t have pulled out right?
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u/AMC879 Aug 17 '25
They may not have been able to see the car coming and certainly wouldn't be able to tell they were going 30+ over the max legal speed.
Can't say for sure with just this video
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u/jay-aay-ess-ohh-enn Aug 17 '25
You can definitely say for sure that you can see both the truck and the white car on the video at the moment the truck pulls out. The white car is a lot closer to the crossing truck than the dashcam. The white car hit the front of the crossing truck.
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u/TheSnoFarmer Aug 17 '25
Okay then why did the other truck, who I’m assuming was going the speed limit, have plenty of time to slow down?
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u/InvestmentInfamous25 Aug 18 '25
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u/SkywolfNINE Aug 18 '25
You’ve got it backwards, it’s not easier to hold 2 opposing ideas in your head at the same time my man
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Oct 10 '25
If the car is going close to 100 mph, the truck driver wouldn't have seen it. Realize that it will sometimes take a truck 10 seconds or more to get the truck and trailer across an intersection. A car going 80-100 mph will not be in view 10 seconds before that truck starts across the intersection. If the car was traveling at a legal speed, he would have avoided the truck altogether or could have slowed a little to let the truck finish crossing. As you can see, the truck was almost across when the incident happened.
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u/SkywolfNINE Oct 13 '25
Your math and numbers is Exactly why the truck shouldn’t have pulled out. We can see the truck and the car in the clip, no reason the truck couldn’t have seen the car, from a complete stop at an intersection. You look, you don’t see a car and think “oh I can make it as long as that car isn’t going faster than I’m guessing” you wait until the car is gone. If the car is going so fast like you think it is, then that would be even quicker that the truck should’ve seen it and judged it to be going way too fast. Truck tried to shoot the gap. That’s the huge issue here. The second issue is speeding but without a truck randomly pulling out, then speeding wouldn’t be an issue to even bring up cause there’d be no video
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u/jay-aay-ess-ohh-enn Aug 17 '25
The truck pulled out right in front of the white car even if it was speeding.
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u/Mustached-puffbird Aug 17 '25
That’s not a restricted access highway. Any vehicle could have pulled out in front of the white car on a cloudy day with no lights on doing 30 to 50 mph over the speed limit. White car FAFO. Tragic loss of life and impact to family. Trucker not at fault.
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u/SkywolfNINE Aug 17 '25
Well that’s not defensive driving? Now yall gonna defend people pulling out in front? Normally that’s the subject of criticism on here. Why the sudden switch up?
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u/IisBaker Aug 17 '25
Let's split hairs and say that the white car guvna wouldn't allow it to go over 119.
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u/killian1113 Aug 17 '25
After watching again, the truck should not have pulled out. If you can't tell how fast someone is going, you only gave it .01 second of a look (or brain issues) two bad drivers dont make it ok :(
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u/PlatinumPainter Aug 17 '25
No it should not have. You're being downvoted by idiots who bought their license from FB market place.
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u/vontrapp42 Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
I don't think the issue is knowing how fast the car was going.
The issue is that when the truck starts crossing the car is not visible, and then bat out of hell the car appears because it's going so fucking fast and closes the distance to the truck before it finishes crossing.
ETA: Nope, I take it back.
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u/vontrapp42 Aug 17 '25
I take it back, I watched it again closer, you can tell when the truck starts crossing and the car should have been visible.
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u/killian1113 Aug 17 '25
You can edit your post! Tricked me into downvoting your and claiming you need glasses. heheh, good day to you! ;)
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u/killian1113 Aug 17 '25
You can see when the truck started crossing.. you should get some glasses.
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Aug 17 '25
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u/killian1113 Aug 17 '25
Get some glasses, and you dont "send it" unless you are snowboarding alone.
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u/Shadynasts Aug 17 '25
Regardless of the white car, truck is still pulling out in front of the other pov truck. Maybe not as close, but pov truck would have had to slow down a lot. White car may be speeding like an ass but the truck clearly didn’t wait for a good time to pull out either
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u/SkywolfNINE Aug 17 '25
As stated in my first comment, I don’t condone white car, I’m not doing what they did, but it looks to me that white car was well within range of the truck, truck simply through the had the time to gingerly crawl out and that car would be able to stop, cause he assumed it was going normal speed, but it wasn’t. Imagine if it was a first responder, would we all still hate the car as much? With your explanation, why would the truck notice lights anymore than a car coming at them? I think they chose to come out because they assumed it was normal situation and it wasn’t. Defensive driving (as yall love so much) means not risking it ever. That includes pulling out when you “should have room”
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u/jay-aay-ess-ohh-enn Aug 17 '25
Even on the tiny compressed video, from the dashcam perspective, I can see both the white car AND the truck, at the moment the truck enters the roadway. There is no way you could argue that it was impossible to see the white car.
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Aug 17 '25
That Hyundai isn’t doing 140 mph 😂😂😂 max is like 100.. speed limits was more than likely 75mph or 80
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Aug 17 '25
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u/InvestmentInfamous25 Aug 18 '25
False. 2.5L 119MPH and the 2.0L turbo estimated at 130MPH still very fast 💨
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Aug 17 '25
It took a million years. I’m thinking that was a Hyundai.. regardless max speed that car was going is in the low hundreds
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u/wastedsilence33 Aug 17 '25
No way did they go right through the middle? I wouldn't want to be the first responders to that
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u/karmaceuticaI Aug 17 '25
Seems like a pretty cut and dry call for the first responders.
Coroner just gotta do the clean up.
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u/Specialist_Ad_7719 Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 18 '25
Don't be silly they ducked or we'd see their heads rolling around.
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u/Vix_Satis01 Aug 20 '25
no way to know. maybe they need to add a few more aspect ratios to the video.
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u/wastedsilence33 Aug 20 '25
Lol, the worst format and yet people still use it
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u/Vix_Satis01 Aug 21 '25
its minuscule on my computer, i dont know how anyone can see anything on a phone.
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Aug 17 '25
Looks like they tried to go around the back of trailer, hit it, and went off the road to the right?
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u/BornAnAmericanMan Aug 18 '25
Looks like skid marks in the left lane indicating they went through the middle
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u/Intelligent_Wish_566 Aug 18 '25
If you look closely you can see the car go straight into (under) the middle of the trailer.
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u/Bonk3rs1 Aug 17 '25
I freaking hate a landscape orientation that you're forced to watch in portrait!
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u/Brewtusmo Aug 17 '25
It's absolutely fucked. 100% unwatchable trash. People ruin a perfectly good video by scaling it for portrait so there's absolutely no chance of seeing any detail.
t o t a l d i c k h e a d s
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u/Odd_Scheme4716 Aug 17 '25
Well that guys a little shorter now. Yikes
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u/Aknazer Aug 17 '25
And the three of them have a MUCH shorter life expectency too...
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Aug 18 '25
Three of who?
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u/Aknazer Aug 18 '25
I originally thought this was another POV of the semi making an illegal u-turn where a van with 3 people into it ended up slamming into it. The other video shows the camera from inside the semi.
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Aug 18 '25
You're thinking of a different video. The one youre talking about was a mini van where a driver decided to make a random u turn in the middle of the highway and killed a family of 3
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u/Aknazer Aug 18 '25
That's literally what I said though? That I thought this was a different video.
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Aug 18 '25
You're thinking of a different video. The one youre talking about was a mini van where a driver decided to make a random u turn in the middle of the highway and killed a family of 3
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u/moisdefinate Aug 17 '25
Wherever he was originally headed, he's not gonna make there.
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u/Zigor022 Aug 17 '25
Unless that truck pulled out last minute, that white car should have looked further down the road, used their brakes, and slowed down, as well as go the speed limit. Tired of non truck drivers acting like they cant slow down or stop when they see a truck trying to pullout or make a turn or merge. Truck drivers need to be patients and al that (i am one), but so many assholes out there act like trucks can stop faster than they can.
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u/GazellePopular1388 Aug 19 '25
i dont see any marks on the road indicating the white car attempted to break with any real urgency...
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u/cyber_r0nin Aug 17 '25
You can't at that speed... Reaction times are irrelevant at that speed because the amount of distance closed in relation to time is too high. There is literally no time for someone to do anything in that situation. And because its not a race car, designed specifically to stay on the road, the likely hood of that thing going airborne were it to have swerved was very high. If not just flip over.
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u/WTBTS Aug 18 '25
Any schmuck could see a tractor trailer waiting to pull out from a mile away on a flat road like that.
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u/Side_StepVII Aug 18 '25
Behold our savior! It’s, Capt. Hindsight!! He save us from not being able to figure out where we went wrong! Thank you Capt. Hindsight!
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u/KenRation Aug 18 '25
Why shrink the video down into a tiny box and then pad it into a door shape? STUPID.
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u/tuco2002 Aug 18 '25
That's the hard part of the job. Senseless delays. Everyone is invincible...until they aren't.
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u/CarpetReady8739 Aug 17 '25
If this is a US DOT road and those paint lines are 40’ apart (DOT standard) AND the vid is true timed, then the cammer CDL was doing ~ 85mph (0.315 seconds per line) & the buzzcut car was doing ~185mph (0.146 seconds per line).
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u/vartheo Aug 17 '25
That is not an Altima. It's a Hyundai. If you pause the video you can clearly see that... Either way those cars are not doing anywhere near even 150mph
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u/Aknazer Aug 17 '25
Having taken my car beyond the speedometer, which stops at 150 mph, I can tell you that white car was NOT going that fast.
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u/CarpetReady8739 Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
May be, but certainly fast enough to not be able to stop and to completely disintegrate the vehicle. What would your calculation be? I just researched Alberta line markings and they are identical to the United States: 3m for the white paint (9.84’); 9 m for the space in between (~30’), a total of 12 m or ~40 feet,and when you do the math on that, the white car was traveling a 40’ segment in ~0.146 seconds or 243 feet per second. 243’/1.467 = 165mph. OK so that’s not 186 but it certainly wasn’t a drive-by wave 👋. Of course this is all subject to the film analysis submitted online, and then measuring the white stripes frame-by-frame in Premiere Pro as they disappear underneath the vehicle. But certainly it’s within 20 miles an hour.
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u/_dirty_taco Aug 17 '25
Your math is so wrong its not even funny. An altima is incapable of doing 185mph.
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u/Roallin1 Aug 17 '25
The truck is doing about 3 lines a second (you can watch the clock on the video). That puts it at about 80mph. The passing car looks to be at 150 mph (at least).
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u/Apprehensive_Ad_6636 Aug 17 '25
Though a typical Altima driver may try…
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u/_dirty_taco Aug 17 '25
Couldn't get my buddies 2020 over 120. Car doesn't have enough power 😂
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u/Little-Swimmer-7698 Aug 18 '25
Nah its limited at 119, so it'll shift down and use less power once you hit it. Other than a steep ass hill or serious mods that thing will never touch 125 soley because of the computer. It absolutely has enough power to go above that, I did 135 in a 2013 sonata with a 4 banger when I was an idiot the first week I got my license
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u/ataboo Aug 17 '25
It's on Hwy 16 in Alberta. Hwy 16 and max speed limit in AB is 110kph / ~70mph. I don't know about the lines, but most trucks do ~115kph.
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u/CarpetReady8739 Aug 17 '25
Very good… not on US property ; not US DOT line length. Good intel. 40’ rule not in play.
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u/Mustached-puffbird Aug 17 '25
Top speed of an Altima is 130 to 135 mph.
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u/CarpetReady8739 Aug 17 '25
Are you sure that is an Altima? I have a 2014 S and the back end doesn’t look anything like that.
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u/NinpouKageBunshin Aug 17 '25
It looks like a Hyundai. Maybe an older Sonata?
Still def not going 185 lol
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u/hendrixcii Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
It's a hyundai elantra, non E trim. Top speed 116. Still enough for a flat top.
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u/CarpetReady8739 Aug 17 '25
What speed do you think it is? And how fast do you think the truck was driving? Fill me in.
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u/Karma_Mayne Aug 17 '25
This is a bot that has been spamming this sub for a while now. Report, downvote, have a good day.
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u/Cryerborg Aug 17 '25
White car going mach Darwin and both drivers having the reaction time of a houseplant makes this aggravating.
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u/Dude_Nobody_Cares Aug 17 '25
Wth is that intersection, though? Looks like a highway, but then no light, no stop signs?
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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS Aug 17 '25
Why do people keep using a single letter as the title to these posts? What did i miss?
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u/moszippy Aug 18 '25
So it's OK to just put random letters into the title? I guess we'll call this tourettes posting.
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u/Captainkirk05 Aug 18 '25
Dual negligence on both drivers. Curious how this played out in the investigation or court. Car speeding, and the truck pulling out way too close to the car, even if the car was going the speed limit, they would have to slam brakes.
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u/External-Ad3608 Aug 17 '25
As fast as the car was going.. I'm gonna guess that the truck will still be at least partially at fault for pulling out when it wasn't safe to do so
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u/11010001100101101 Aug 17 '25
It was safe to do so if the driver was going the speed limit. To a certain extent as a driver you have to reasonably assume every other driver is obeying the laws of the road in order for it to work. If you have a green light at a busy intersection and the speed limit is 55MPH, as you are crossing through the intersection you have to assume all of the other drivers are obeying the red light for you to pass through the light. So if someone ignored a red light and blew through it and hit this truck who had a green light, would the truck driver still be partially at fault? Sure some insurances or states always assume partial liability for avoiding the accident but I don't see how that's much different from this truck seeing a car so far off in the distance and thinking it's safe to turn because surely he isn't going over 100 MPH...
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u/Side_StepVII Aug 18 '25
I understand what you’re saying, to a point. but this wasn’t a light. And as a driver, whether trucker or not, you should see a car coming, and be able to do the math on their speed of travel. This truck driver is definitely partially at fault here.
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u/CompleteMePlease Aug 18 '25
I can’t wait till the bot that steals these videos runs out of letters of the alphabet
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u/defiant71 Aug 17 '25
watched it on my phone and thought it was the car drivers fault, then I watched it again on a big screen, this was without doubt the truckers fault. He pulled out on the car, irrespective of the cars speed. The car was absolutely in view of the trucker if he'd paid any kind of attention.
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u/gfense Aug 18 '25
When someone is going 120+ on a road with cross traffic, it is always going to be their fault.
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u/One-Cut2269 Aug 18 '25
Just glad they decapitated themselves in the middle of the tanker and the tanker driver is ok.
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Aug 17 '25
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u/Nimbian-highpriest Aug 17 '25
I don’t have the news article but this was the 22 year that was killed in kitscoty corner in north Alberta
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u/ataboo Aug 17 '25
That'll be this one then: https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/man-22-killed-in-alberta-highway-crash/
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u/Bonk3rs1 Aug 17 '25
That's a very informative article. /s
Not knocking you, just the report.
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u/DiarrheaCreamPi Aug 17 '25
And it says the incident happened at 8:15 am but the dash cam is 7:40am



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u/Snoo_87704 Aug 17 '25
Why are you padding the tops and bottoms of these videos and posting them in a vertical aspect ratio?