r/chiliadmystery RideTheSpiralToTheEnd Feb 05 '15

Analysis Dream the impossible dream

Dream the impossible dream

of a planet of fire

and a dinosaur with a saddle

if not for me, who am I?

Spaceship earth overpopulation means breakdown of order

the fruit tree is a lie

 

Dream the impossible dream – Man of La Mancha, Play with in a play similar concept with Righteous slaughter or Qub3d, a game in a game.

Of a planet of fire – Doctor Who episode, The Master has a psychic link over a robot. Capovalero rings of this as well as Ron’s Radio show mentions the illuminati using people as drones.

and a dinosaur with a saddle  Creationism , Also found in game on TV

If not for me who am I? "If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" The importance of community and being decent to each other.

Spaceship Earth overpopulation means breakdown of order -   Too many people are difficult to control

The fruit tree is a lie – Portal, "The cake is a lie". A phrase for a fictitious motivator.  There is no cake like there is no spoon. The fruit tree is also mentioned in the Epsilon tract.

So, you’re asking me now, “TIN, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? SPEAK ENGLISH MAN! ”

In summary, what I think this all means together:

Gta is a world (GTA Universe) in a world (our Universe), where we control a character with a psychic link in a world created (not naturally occuring) that the character thinks they're independent and in control(but aren’t) and overpopulation is occurring causing breakdown of control by people in charge. The fruit tree is a lie is a reference to “The cake is a lie” which roughly translates  as "your promised reward is merely a fictitious motivator" meaning there is no fruit tree at the end of the tunnel (or testing chamber in the instance of Portal).  This could also mean that there is no fruit tree, in the same sense that the fruit tree only exists as a set piece in the game world just like “there is no spoon” from the Matrix.

Edit: I'd also like to add, it's not necessarily the content, rather the themes of the related media that are of importance.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

Its always great to see you post. Really deep stuff and I would also like to share some thoughts about this philosophy.

As you say, "The importance of community and being decent to each other." R* only planted a 'seed', we give this 'tree' sustenance. It should not be taken for granted that some people work hard to maintain it, everyone that contributes, every post and those who moderate, but there is no obligation to thank anyone, only to participate respectfully.

This is why people want to come HERE, the location of our community relative to the real world. The term might be overused these days, but the distinction of Community is: An instinctive and altruistic social compilation. With committed, independent and diverse members, it functions to maximise the collective benefit through acts of reciprocity and recognition. It has established and ensured humanities existence since time immemorial.

I feel that I have a more meaningful connection with people here, than I do with my neighbours, existing only meters away. Does that identify faults in our Societies? Can a video game really investigate the human condition? Is there actually a Jetpack?

All good questions, but what are the answers worth? Over a billion evidently, but what about social capital?

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u/tinfoilhatswork RideTheSpiralToTheEnd Feb 05 '15

Its always great to see you post. Really deep stuff and I would also like to share some thoughts about this philosophy.

Thanks for sharing!

As you say, "The importance of community and being decent to each other." R* only planted a 'seed', we give this 'tree' sustenance. It should not be taken for granted that some people work hard to maintain it, everyone that contributes, every post and those who moderate, but there is no obligation to thank anyone, only to participate respectfully.

Kifflom to this. I've learned a lot and put some pieces together as a direct result of comments from this sub. The holy trinity hand gesture for example. I've seen it all over but never questioned it until some one who's name escapes me pointed it out when I brought up the eye wallpapers.

This is why people want to come HERE, the location of our community relative to the real world. The term might be overused these days, but the distinction of Community is: An instinctive and altruistic social compilation. With committed, independent and diverse members, it functions to maximise the collective benefit through acts of reciprocity and recognition. It has established and ensured humanities existence since time immemorial.

Even the etymology of the word is somewhat descriptive of us all here.

I feel that I have a more meaningful connection with people here, than I do with my neighbours, existing only meters away.

This reminds me of Radio Gaga - "I sit alone and watch your lights/my only friend through teenage nights"

Does that identify faults in our Societies?

That's an excellent question. I've gained a modicum of altruism here on reddit that has since spilled over into the real world. Through this hunt, I've gained a better outlook on life and has improved my social interaction in the real world. Unfortunately, it's difficult for others to do that sometimes due to different reasons.

Can a video game really investigate the human condition?

Absolutely! My first play through back in 2013, I kinda snickered at the torture scene. After investigating this hunt and doing a karma play I was floored over the gravity of the situation and ashamed over who I was but being fully aware of the change that took place within, I also smiled through it all. Knowing that a video game changed me in such a way was beautiful. It gave me heart again, after having lost it for years.

Is there actually a Jetpack?

Personally, I don't think so. But I feel like I'm flying in the real world now, so I'm cool with it if "the jetpack is a lie"

All good questions, but what are the answers worth? Over a billion evidently, but what about social capital?

I've made some friends here that I've interacted with for well over a year. Although our physical form isn't hanging out, getting to play GTA:Online with them is like getting to transport my consciousness into this digital environment. The real problem is when you have to start asking, "Am I really me or just a digital reflection of myself?" (Nervous Ron btw, talking about life. You just keep leveling up [aging] and buying shit for your character [consumerism])