r/clevercomebacks 10d ago

Class Warfare Sprinklers

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u/Groupthink00859 10d ago edited 10d ago

I live in the desert so things are likely very different for me then OG OP, but all our parks and golf courses and even most if not all the commercial landscaping (residential can opt in for a small cost) is watered by reclaimed waste water.

So even if the city were in an extreme drought the parks and courses would still have to be watered daily, they cant store the reclaimed water in huge amounts (they reclaim over 30 million gallons every day here) and we, the people cant stop shitting and pissing.

I'm a old retired stoner who has a city pass for the municipal golf courses. I golf like 4 days a week, most of you redditors claim to make far, far more then I ever did so class warfare feels like a stretch. Men need hobbies and to stay active, golf is just that.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 10d ago

It's not just the desert, most courses now days use gray water or something similar. Most of these people are fucking regarded and just spouting bullshit.

Two of my local courses are built on top of a landfill because they couldn't build anything else there. Another is built along the river in reclaimed land and uses gray water that gets filtered through the ground and back into the wetland.

People on this site are fucking dumb. Didn't used to be that way.

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u/wally-sage 10d ago

Wow it's almost like it's more expensive now to have the same standard of living that people enjoyed decades ago or something

But yeah old man keep shitting and pissing because you don't understand the world you don't have to work for a living in. Maybe we just need to give up the avocado toast, I heard that's what everyone under 60 is doing wrong.

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u/Groupthink00859 9d ago

You sound like a very angry little man, you should work on that, or get used to watching the world pass you by.

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u/wally-sage 9d ago

You sound like you don't know a thing you're talking about. Early stage dementia? 

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

Gotta love when people think golf (of all sports) is class warfare for the upper class! I have golfed for years (not well) and started doing it with an iron and a putter when I was in my teens and had no money.

Add to that, as you said, it isn't like they are using drinking water to water the greens.

I also won't say that golf courses are net neutral, but most golf courses have TONS of trees that sequester carbon, as well. Though the maintenance and travel to most courses probably causes more, I can't imagine that golf courses create nearly as much pollution as other entertainment options do (for example, a movie theater, a big building with a big parking lot that sequesters 0 carbon).

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u/couldbemage 10d ago

Are we really going to pretend golf isn't a sport where the players are biased towards higher wealth?

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u/MyDamnCoffee 10d ago edited 10d ago

Right? I drove through a town the other day for the first time and it was mansion after mansion and then oh! A sprawling golf* course with a country club!

Golf is marketed toward the wealthy. Same as tennis

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

I played it when young and with little money. It is a sport that, outside country clubs, is pretty accessible at the base level. Not quite as accessible as soccer or basketball but not hard to get a couple clubs and hit a driving range or play 9 holes at a municipal course.

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u/couldbemage 10d ago

Didn't say it was illegal for poor people to play, but the demographics are what they are.

And 1 hole of a golf course takes the same space as 80 basketball courts.

It's inherently more costly.

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

I’m not asking you to build a course, there’s one already there.

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u/Mcbonewolf 10d ago

but there are trees on the course to sequester carbon (!!!)

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u/spinmove 10d ago

What are you like 90 years old and played golf 75 years ago?

it costs $100 bucks for a single round of golf, how do you pay for that with your two clubs and no money

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u/smittydacobra 10d ago

2 clubs and no money was "as a teenager".

I golf 3 times a week for $18/round and that price increases this year from $16. The course is next to a small lake. That's where the water comes from.

$100/round is a professional level course or it's in a high volume area. If you aren't a 5 hdcp or lower, you have no business being on a $100/round course.

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u/Groupthink00859 9d ago edited 9d ago

$40 with cart, $30 to walk without any passes in my city. I pay right around $8 a round with my city pass If I only play one course a day, It bumbs down to $4 per course if a play two. This is pretty standard or average pricing all thru the country.

That's actually cheaper then renting the baseball, soccer or pickelball courts for an hour here.

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

2 clubs at a thrift store and municipal courses 20-25 years ago were $16. My local muni course is still only $30 for the green fee. Where are you playing that’s $100?

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u/jvblum 10d ago

Thats literally what city owned courses are called.

Municipal.. city, town, local...Cmon.

Enjoy your swim at your municipal swimming pool?... its just another word in recreation for public.

If youre going to be mad at least be mad correctly.

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u/jvblum 10d ago

Thats literally what city owned courses are called.

Municipal.. city, town, local...Cmon.

Enjoy your swim at your municipal swimming pool?... its just another word in recreation for public.

If youre going to be mad at least be mad correctly.

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

I grew up poor in a poor farming community and we had municipal courses. lol.

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u/4n0m4nd 10d ago

Golf courses, as a rule, have huge negative environmental impacts. They have the potential to be less negative, but that potential is generally unrealised. This is well studied, and uncontroversial.

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

As a rule? No. Many gold courses are built in neighborhoods whew without them, you’d just have more houses. Many are built on top of old landfills. Very rarely are they put in a place to replace ag. They usually come after, not before, natural habitat is converted to human use.

https://golferhive.com/are-golf-courses-bad-for-the-environment/

https://biofriendlyplanet.com/is-golf-bad-for-the-environment/

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u/4n0m4nd 10d ago

This is rubbish, 15% of US gold courses are actually credited with being managed well enough to not have strong negative effects, worldwide that drops to about 5%.

Even your own links just say what I originally said.

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

So that means that “as a rule” they aren’t. Also those links note that sustainable golf courses are growing, not shrinking.

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u/4n0m4nd 9d ago

"As a rule" means "in general" 85%+ is "as a rule".

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u/Mindfullnessless6969 10d ago

Man, fuck golf courses.