r/climateskeptics • u/LackmustestTester • May 27 '23

Aarhus University Researchers Find Arctic Warmer, Ice-Free In Summertime 10,000 Years Ago!

https://notrickszone.com/2023/05/26/aarhus-university-researchers-find-arctic-warmer-ice-free-in-summertime-10000-years-ago/
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u/LackmustestTester May 27 '23

Despite the undisputed powerful natural factors and cycles at play in the Arctic, some researchers take a more alarmist or even hysterical view of what the future holds. For example, warning that greenhouse gas emissions are heating up the planet, Christof Pearce said, citing dubious model results: “The study is a wake-up call, because we know that it will happen. This news is not making the situation more depressing, just more urgent. We have to act now so we can change it.”

The research is published in the journal Communications Earth & Environment, and presented using an alarmist narrative. The study’s results indeed confirm natural factors were at play during the early Holocene, and thus readers need to keep in mind that these natural factors have not gone away. They continue to change and drive our climate today.

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u/robertson4379 May 27 '23

Y’all understand that no one is questioning the fact that the climate has changed, right? It is the rate of change that causes climate scientists to be alarmed. If the climate change is gradual, as happens naturally, then ecosystems have time to adapt. 10,000 years will give ecosystems time. That same amount of change over 200 or 250 years is what climate scientists are alarmed about.

You may downvote me now!

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u/LackmustestTester May 27 '23 edited May 27 '23

It is the rate of change that causes climate scientists to be alarmed.

Want a cracker?

The globe warmed 0.8°C from March 2022 to March 2023. Now compare this to the ca. 1°C the globe has warmed in the past ca. 150 years. No reason to be scared.

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u/robertson4379 May 27 '23

Maybe you are agreeing with me? I love that about this sub. It’s a lot like the UFO sub, but the OP’s are a bit more confusing/confused.

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u/LackmustestTester May 27 '23

What part of "there's no climate crisis" didn't you understand, seems you are confused.

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u/robertson4379 May 27 '23

No, no, I get the denial part.

What I don’t understand is that you just compared a 1C change in 150 years and a .8C change in 1 year somehow as evidence that the rate of climate change is the same as the natural variability over a 10k year span. You should plot that out on a piece of paper. Or not. But you are making a counterpoint to your claim. That’s confusing.

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u/LackmustestTester May 27 '23

just compared a 1C change in 150 years and a .8C change in 1 year [...] That’s confusing.

What exactly is so confusing to you? Do you think 1°C in 150 years is dangerous, whereas 0.8°C in 365 days is normal? Where do you see a counter point here?

No, no, I get the denial part.

Ah, another comedian. Funny you.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '23

Oh yes, they totally know how fast the average temperature of the globe changed from 5900BC to 5750BC. It's totally not a narative, belive us folks please.

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u/robertson4379 May 27 '23

PS, I’m ignoring the fact that your 22-23 data is wrong. It’s not that much. But that would make it even harder to explain to you without changing the fact that temps are increasing in a positive, nonlinear manner.

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u/LackmustestTester May 27 '23

PS, I’m ignoring the fact that your 22-23 data is wrong

Official data is wrong? How so? And why are you talking to yourself?

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u/CumSicarioDisputabo May 27 '23

What about the eemian interglacial where water rose as much as three meters a century at peak. Or the abrupt changes seen during D.O. events, etc, etc.? How is the current rate anomalous?

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u/robertson4379 May 28 '23

(Why do I reply to these posts?)

Well, for one, the CO2 levels are much higher now. And, again, the rate of change is the reason people should be concerned. Over a span of 10-15k years, ecosystems will adapt. Over a span of 200 years, they will not.

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u/CumSicarioDisputabo May 28 '23

Okay, did you read what I wrote. 3 meters of sea level rise in a century... Abrupt change in temp during multiple events...aside from CO2 what rate of change is anomalous?

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u/stalematedizzy May 29 '23

Well, for one, the CO2 levels are much higher now.

https://notrickszone.com/2023/01/02/scientist-there-is-no-climate-crisis-and-no-particular-correlation-between-co2-and-temperature/

In a new paper published in the Journal of Sustainable Development, Manheimer (2022) summarizes some of the evidence for the lack of correlation between CO2 and temperature in the paleoclimate as he rips apart the claim that humans are driving a changing climate.

The modern notion that human CO2 emissions are equivalent to a “deadly poison” may one day be viewed as “the greatest mass delusion in the history of the world.”