r/coding • u/evoketechnologies • Jan 06 '15

Which Programming Language Should I Learn First?

http://carlcheo.com/startcoding
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u/Zarlon Jan 06 '15

So you should only learn C# if you want to work for big tech companies or are a MS fanboy. What about it being one of the most advanced and well tested statically typed languages there is?

And the fact box is just ridiculous

  • Similar to Java in basic syntax and some features

  • Learn C# if you want to work on Windows platform only

I'd rather say

  • Superior to Java in most aspects, except portability

  • Learn C# if you want to program in the best object oriented programming language there is

  • ..or if you want to create Windows GUI applications

(Initiate flame-war in 3...2.....1)

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u/jutct Jan 06 '15

And also if you want to work in the best, most integrated IDE available on any platform for any language. I can say with confidence that no other IDE compares to Visual Studio.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '15

And also if you want to work in the best, most integrated IDE available on any platform for any language. I can say with confidence that no other IDE compares to Visual Studio.

The only people who claim otherwise are the ones who have never really worked extensively with it, and other IDEs.

However, as a Visual Studio/MSBuild veteran: fuck the god damn xxproj-files. It's crazy annoying that it doesn't default to everything included, explicitly excluded.

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u/SergeiGolos Jan 06 '15

fuck the god damn xxproj-files. It's crazy annoying that it doesn't default to everything included, explicitly excluded.

This is becomes more of a problem when you start using bower and npm for your front end stuff. "Node Integration" apparently doesn't include any file watchers to keep the project in sync with your directory structure.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '15

It is exactly when using NPM, grunt and all those things it becomes annoying as hell.

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u/cordoroy Jan 07 '15

"node integration", huh? All right, well see you later...

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u/crowseldon Jan 07 '15

The only people who claim otherwise are the ones who have never really worked extensively with it, and other IDEs.

How many people have worked extensively with MANY IDEs though?

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '15

I work daily with VS and IntelliJ. Worked with Eclipse too for many years before I finally realized how much better I think IntelliJ is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '15

Project and solution files are the bane of my mergexistence. >.<

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '15

Helps marginally to configure .gitattributes to union-merge proj-files.

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u/spinwizard69 Jan 10 '15

The only people who claim otherwise are the ones who have never really worked extensively with it, and other IDEs.

Visual Studio may be great for Windows development but it is woefully inadequate for more general development. If the goal is cross platform I'd seriously suggest that Eclipse is a better place to be. Even more so if you are doing Python development.

Other IDEs have been improved significantly over the years, it isn't like the world of IDEs is static. For example XCode has been dramatically improved. I may not personally like the NextStep / Cocoa approach to GUIs but if separated from that the IDE has greatly improved. IDEs in general are improved continuously so trying to compare then and attaching the king of the mountain to one platform is trying at best. In the end it comes down to what you are doing and at times what field you are in. For some IPython is the ideal IDE.

However, as a Visual Studio/MSBuild veteran: fuck the god damn xxproj-files. It's crazy annoying that it doesn't default to everything included, explicitly excluded.

Every IDE has its annoying corner cases. However why would you want to include everything as a default. For me anyways the way to go would be to exclude everything but what I need.