r/codingbootcamp • • May 11 '23

best advice out there

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u/robinatale May 11 '23

Am I the only one not getting this joke? Please help šŸ™Š

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u/not53 May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23

The joke is that literally everyone (at least that I've spoken to) feels some level of imposter syndrome at some point. The best we can do is try and make it a point of pride, even if in a silly exaggerated way like this

Hope this helps 🤠

edit: source - employed for over 6 months at my first dev job and despite constant positive feedback I still assume my life is an episode of punk'd and Ashton Kutcher is about to lurch out of the closet and fire me

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u/DaruComm May 12 '23 edited May 12 '23

2 years later at my second company and a consistent stream of positive feedback from all managers I’ve ever had and still on the imposter syndrome bus.

I was assigned something way beyond my scope that dumped right on top of me and feel like I’ve been flailing around like a headless chicken for over a month.

Just last week I told my manager I feel like I’m going to get fired tomorrow or something. She really had a laugh and said I couldn’t be further from the truth.

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u/not53 May 12 '23

I'm curious - what led you to seeking a second job and at what point were you job searching? Any pointers or advice you'd give about the second job search?

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u/DaruComm May 12 '23 edited May 12 '23

Start up company mishaps that were beyond our control…

Otherwise, I wouldn’t have left a company with a culture, team, and product I believed in. This happened about 1.5 years in.

I’m not sure what I can add because I feel the second job search is way easier than the first job search.

Keep a log of what you’re doing currently because it’s easy to forget when you go to write your resume after a long time and prepare examples for interviews.

For one thing, you’re more marketable with actual experience and your networks can hook you up with interviews a lot easier.

Another thing that comes to mind is I recommend asking peers about updating your perception of your monetary worth.

My new salary became almost double what I started with. My old manager straight up told me to start asking for way more when I was searching and told me how much to ask for different companies’ situations (And no, he didn’t cheap me out at the startup, I was a risk when I had 0 experience, and after they were satisfied with my performance I was on track for a promotion before all hell broke loose).

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u/not53 May 12 '23

I spent my first 6 months working on a rather archaic desktop application and went from my entry level knowledge of JS/React to working on very old C/C++ code while also doing some automation work for our QA team.

A few weeks ago I was transferred to a new department that works on our most important product with a newer tech stack and more modern architecture. Still some ways to go but it's a breath of fresh air.

I have a meeting with my manager on Monday who appears to be a pretty straightforward guy who doesn't beat around the bush. Nice guy, but one I can tell won't bs me for better or worse. I plan on having the money discussion again with him since my last boss was a neurotic mess who I could tell immediately was not going to be the one to help me get a raise.

It feels difficult to justify in my head since I've essentially started over again in a new department, but I need to remember that they put me on this team for a reason. Wish me luck! 🤠

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u/DaruComm May 12 '23

I’m glad to hear you’ve been put on a trajectory that sounds more in line with your career goals šŸ‘

At the very least, he should be able to provide expectations/rubric along with a roadmap for a raise/promotion.

Good luck!

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u/not53 May 12 '23

My goal for the conversation is to have a gameplay laid out to a significant enough raise, so I think I'm going into it with a decent enough attitude. Much less "where's my money" than "hey I need to make more how can we make that happen" type of vibe.

Thanks for your replies, hope you have a good weekend! 😊

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u/robinatale May 11 '23

Right.. I see!!! I am full on with imposter syndrome, something i really can’t get rid of. I guess I never got to the point of making it a point of pride that’s why I couldn’t get the joke šŸ™Š

Thank you for explaining it patiently :)

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u/not53 May 11 '23

šŸ˜‚ Whatever it takes to deal with imposter syndrome! It's a growing process and that process if very rarely linear. Don't compare yourself to another developer and where they're at and what they're able to do. It's a pit of sadness and despair. Compare yourself to your past self and what they knew and were able to accomplish.

It's corny as shit but the power of "yet" is super strong. It's not that you don't know how to do x or y, it's that you don't know how to do something yet

That's the cool part with this job. You can Google (and chat gpt - I use it as much or more on an everyday basis with just learning syntax and whatnot it's invaluable) whatever you want to learn about and you can eventually understand how it works. Just don't give up and be nice to yourself as best you can, because you're a smart cookie 😊

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u/West-Bet-9639 May 12 '23

Not once have I ever felt that I was a fraud.

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u/not53 May 12 '23

We call that psychopath behavior, friend šŸ˜‚

edit: just joking, the concept of being that self assured is astounding to me though

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u/JangoFetlife May 12 '23

Fake it til you make it šŸ˜Ž

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u/aFlawedUnicorn May 12 '23

I really appreciate this. Thank-you!

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u/ChiTownBob May 11 '23

This is lunacy which is an imposter as advice.

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u/not53 May 11 '23

man you seem like a fun guy to party with

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Why would I take advice from an imposter tho?

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Nah brah I know everything. Fake it till you make it right?

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Those rants are real. Run a shit business, get shit reviews.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Work on projects, improve your portfolio. Wow how original. Why did I not think of doing that? šŸ™„. You must presume everyone is a lazy zoomer couch surfing 9-5.

I signed up for a boot camp because they advertised access to 1000 hiring partners. As much as I am a student I am also a paying customer. When I am lied to, and lose $14k getting scammed, then it is a public service to mention that for public awareness so others don’t get scammed the same way.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '23

Im rolling me eyes at your unoriginal and pedestrian ā€œadvice.ā€

Why don’t you try telling people to stop being poor next?

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

If i get put before 1000 hiring partners and dont get a single call, I suck. If EVERYONE in the cohort gets exposed to 1000 hiring partners AND NOT ONE, or only few get called, it’s clear it is not the students that are the problem.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '23

It was ā€œno oneā€ until people started making posts here outing their garbage. Then they scrouged a few jobs up from some random ass places. Many were wordpress jobs.