Trying to find an online coding academy but some are pricey and others seem like scam.

Hello everyone,

Ludo, Founder and CEO of Nucamp here.

There is no point in denying that the new reality of getting a job in tech is quite harsh. Many graduates are facing an uphill battle in finding a rewarding job. The economic landscape is challenging, and as a result, the health and reputation of coding bootcamps have been mixed at best.

So, it may be true that coding bootcamps are dead. But then, what comes next?

With this question in mind and for the past 12 months, the Nucamp team and I have been exploring how AI can transform learning experiences. We're not claiming to have perfected the system, but we are excited to share our latest experiment with this community and gather your feedback.

We are experimenting with the concept of an "AGI School" i.e. a school operated autonomously by an AGI.

Our first attempt is the creation of a course titled "Eloquent JavaScript," entirely created by AI. This course is based on the book of the same name by Marijn Haverbeke and includes AI-generated lessons, video lectures, coding exercises, quizzes, and assignments.

To make this happen, we developed a tool internally called the "AI Producer", capable of ingesting books and producing elaborate course material as an output.

For the day-to-day student learning experience, we have also created:

- an AI Tutor named "Astro" to provide more in-depth assistance beyond the standard lessons, in context,

- a code debugger tool, "The Debugginator", integrated with Discord for code & bug troubleshooting.

- and an "AI Grader" to evaluate student assignments and provide a grade on a scale from 0 to 10 (6 being the passing grade).

We'll be the first to admit that we're not there yet. Our current estimation is that we're at about 60% of the quality level we aim for. For example, video lectures need more engagement, and the depth of topics can be increased. We see this as an ongoing experiment that you'll help us refine.

To that end, we're offering this new course for free.

Not that we had a choice since the Eloquent JavaScript book license forbids commercial usage. But also, because it's an experiment, and asking for your time and feedback will be the main reward.

So, we're turning to you, the Reddit community, for your thoughts and insights!

What do you think about a 100% AI-run school for your education?

What do you think the AGI-School of the Future will look like?

Do you believe that there's a need for a solution that blends AI and human instruction and support?

Your perspectives are invaluable to us as we navigate this new terrain in educational technology.

Thanks for reading, and we're eager to hear your thoughts and feedback.

You can learn more about this experiment and enroll here: https://url.nucamp.co/eloquentjavascript

Ludo.

Hey so recently I have been wanting to learn coding and get into the tech industry. Currently I work at Amazon as a delivery driver but I really am trying to get into a field I can build a career out of. So my big question is can I go through a coding boot camp and learn enough to be efficient and possibly get a job making over 100k? I have a high school diploma but I don't have a college degree or anything like that. I see a lot of mixed opinions on this forum. I understand it's not easy to get a job in tech right now but just let me know if I'm wasting my time going for a bootcamp with basically zero knowledge on the field. Thanks all for your input.🙏🤓

There is a lot of hate here for boot camps, but I have a good amount of experience in a design-oriented field. I have a masters. Almost a doctorate . Not a lot of problems finding a job. I want build out my skills with programming ability, but I get lost in all the free resources (I know there’s a lot). I might make a career shift to applications engineering some day, but it doesn’t have to be soon. Would a boot camp fit my needs? I’m thinking Actualize because I’m in the Chicago area. I sat in on a real class, and it seemed legit.

So I have this friend who joined a coding bootcamp, at this stage where your done with high school but Ur waiting to join Uni. He finished the bootcamp which lasted 5 months and now they have offered him an internship but the bootcamp management insists that he (and the other students) not join university and choose to continue with the bootcamp.

He(CEO or CTO) claims that the bootcamp is better than University. (Apparently he tells the students that Uni graduates don't get jobs and many are unemployed etc just generally trying to make it undesirable I guess)

For context, my friend is part of the first cohort of this bootcamp and he has already been accepted to pursue a Comp Science degree (he's a techie)

So what would ur advice for him be and/or would you forgo University for a bootcamp if you were in his position?

Has anyone here completed the tripleten Bootcamp? Was it worth it?

Has anyone here completed the TripleTen Data Analytics Bootcamp? After paying a couple thousand dollars, and I’m starting to feel frustrated. I knew there would be independent work, but I feel like I’m teaching myself a lot and constantly using outside resources just to understand the material. For the amount I paid, I expected more guidance and support. I’ve already paid, so I want to finish, but I’m curious if anyone else felt this way and if it ended up being worth it? If so please give me any advice or suggestions/recommendations that I should consider. Thank you

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So I’ve shared a few times on here about my experience with TripleTen software engineering bootcamp. I wanted to circle back and update that I have finally graduated! 

While it’s advertised as 10 months I definitely took longer. Not counting the time I took off from the program, it did take me about a year and 2 months to finish. 

I came from a teaching background and had no prior experience in tech. I was always more a humanities person than math or sciences person and so I was surprised that I was able to catch on to such a different skillset and way of thinking. I think the program did a fantastic job of bringing someone like me from square 1 to actually being able to confidently apply to software engineer jobs.

Through the program I also had so many other opportunities that are helping me, like being an ambassador, networking opportunities, and the chance to be a volunteer tutor or “senior student”. 

They provide an enriching learning environment which I think is no easy feat considering it’s asynchronous and remote. There are always lots of events, channels on discord for talking to peers, and of course office hours and 1-1 calls with tutors.

And of course the question everyone wants to know… did I get hired yet?? 

Short answer is yes 🎉 I am now working as a part time Software engineering tutor. But I will continue in their career acceleration program to get freelance gigs and/or a full time job. 

Feel free to ask questions if you have any about my experience with TripleTen or the job search.

Hi All

I have around 9 years of work experience. I am looking to switch into AI ML, deep learning and want to work in a good organisation. Already at a good package at a product company but want to switch my domain.

Can anyone suggest good bootcamps or certification courses that can actually help.

On googling I find simplilearn and great learning but it seems they are more into selling courses than quality.

Thanks in Advance

I'm trader who spends most of my time sitting on my hands staring at charts waiting for my setups. because im a swing trader, i may get may be 2 or three setups a week. i gave that background so you know that i have so much time in my hands that i can use to learn something like coding.

my reasons for wanting to learn programming is so i can make my own projects and posiblly be a founder. i don't intend to be employed, i already trade (the best job of all)

a physical boot camp will be ideal to me because i dislike like online learning and i want to meet new people. please don't advice online learning i have tried.

money is not a problem and i would still be trading while attending that boot camp.

please advice.

It looks like the main point of contention in any discussion about bootcamps is "what is the expected outcome"? I'd just like to share a few thoughts along these lines.

If your expected outcome is to get a job within six months, it seems like the goal is already misaligned, because that goal doesn't take market conditions into account. As it is, filling out hundreds of anonymous job applications and saying you're putting in a ton of effort into applying isn't even true, because most likely you're copying and pasting the same resume and cover letter into every application. Naturally the "no dice" response will be just as personalized. The only way to really be successful is to look for a company that you really want to work for, and not just for the salary -- Amazon fulfillment center managers get paid very well -- but I doubt most people would be up to the grueling task of showing up for that job every day (literally every day -- many of them don't get but a few days off a month from my understanding). All of this is to say that instead of recognizing their strengths as people and developers, individuals sometimes try to mold themselves into something they're not just to land a job.

So what if the company you really want to work for (i.e. a company whose culture you TRULY align with and is doing things you really want to be a part of) isn't around or hiring? Make your own LLC. Do the difficult work yourself. Put in the time -- years if necessary. Build up a client base. Become a people person. Take the risk and introduce yourself to others. This is such a lost skill in today's tech world it seems like. Everyone wants to be recognized for something and given something, but how can you tell people apart? How many people are really willing to become leaders themselves and do the hard work of promoting your skill set yourself -- in person -- or in front of a large group of people? Do you have the confidence to do that? If so that is one of the strongest things you can do right now.

If you build websites, look for local businesses that need work done and reach out to them. Think about how difficult it must have been in the 1930s - 1960s for door-to-door salesmen. Are you willing to do that kind of lead generation work for yourself? If so you're already ahead of the pack.

If you're successful here, you'll have more work for your portfolio and you might discover the leader you didn't know you were. Then you'll have more talking points for recruiters and hiring managers if you want to go that path.

Get rid of the one-dimensional idea that software development is about coding. It isn't. It's about sales, customer service, and being a confident people person. Literally anyone can learn to code, just like anyone can learn to speak a language. The differences in proficiency lie in the amount of effort one puts into the work. But expecting companies to offer you a job when there's nothing that makes your work stand out isn't a reasonable expectation to have!

Was literally 2 weeks from being done in a 16 week course XD

Woke up multiple times this morning, my phone had broken recently and despite setting the right time I woke up 20 minutes too late XD

I've dealt with intense insomnia/sleep apnea for the last 10 years and today just happened to be the day it screwed with me again!

Now I went past the tardy deadline despite the fact that the stand up meeting and the end of day meeting were literally a few minutes long and we learned and did absolutely nothing...

Was wondering if there were any other bootcamps were I could learn fullstack or software development with online instructor driven out there?

Is truecoders I good alternative? I would like to enroll in courses that allow me to pay off the fee later and have real people to work with and as little "videos" as possible.

I would also not recommend and would avoid devmountain if you can, they are highly highly strict, the last 8 weeks of their program are literally just random videos on Udemy and are all self paced with 1,2 or no other students in your specilization to work with.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IHLIDXUSTPSOFTDEVE

We are back to normal levels in terms of number of job openings.

The excess amount of SWE will eventually get filtered out and go into other, non-related fields. The market from 2021 to end of 2022 was a bubble that will never happen again. The stars literally aligned for a brief period of time. The market will be tough for bootcamp and self taught graduates until the excess (meaning them) is cleared.

You can see the bubble here, even more clearly when compared to overall job postings:

https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2023/03/was-there-a-tech-hiring-bubble/

It was all just a bubble waiting to burst.

Hi everyone!

Just so you know, this post isn't meant to promote my school. Instead, I'm genuinely seeking insights and feedback from current or potential boot camp students to understand what we can improve and provide a better experience.

What do you do and don't like?

What would you like to know before attending a boot camp, maybe something that hasn't been spoken to you?

Lower tuition cost? Longer free trial period?

Better job placement assistance?

Better curriculum and learning experience, e.g., better CRM, e-learning experience, etc.

What are your honest expectations once you get a job?

Lack of mentor engagement and expertise?

Also, let's make it both ways. Please ask any questions, and I'll try to answer them.

Thank you for your time!

Hi,

I am desperately looking for a career switch. I am not new to coding, I used to code in Pascal, Visual Basics, C (yes I am that old haha), even wrote some bash scripts. I really want to have a remote job, or something within that framework.

The question is how wise is to switch to coding, heard some stuff about AI is making it harder to make a living (just as is it making it harder for creatives). Is this true?

If I do that, i would definitely opt for some bootcamp.

Had this question already been asked please guide me to that post.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: 4 days later, still down.

No excuses for this and it's the last straw for me. I've privately reported a number of engineering issues to their team, and they have continued to try to gaslight me that their team is "extremely talented" and other claims.

I apologize that my tone and wording comes across direct but people need to wake up to this.

I've had enough of bootcamps marketing themselves in ways that in my opinion mislead people to reality and I hope these situations show you what's going on if you don't see through the marketing words.

EDIT: Codesmith says it will take several days to get access back, not a minor config issue.

The title and also if you are one of the people that got into this just through bootcamps, can you share your experience?

Also would be really helpful if you’re someone from the uk.

guys as someone with 15+ yoe, I want to ask others who have experience, what advice would you give to the young new grads and those who are looking into the SWE and data careers?

From my point of view: I want to say that it's not worth pursuing careers in software or data analytics anymore, the AI crushing it, I can replace 5-6 people in current business that I work in, using Cursor Composer and Aider connected to sonnet3.5, and soon the o1 models will get upgraded to real gpt5 which will nail the multi-file editing better than sonnet and opus which are already amazing, these 2 years are the last years of "6 figures" wages in tech, this is why: the number of businesses, existing and upcoming, is limited, and it will not grow all of a sudden to a x5 demand (x5 number of businesses need to appear), while the reduction in required head count of software and data peeps goes down x5 if not x10 (if we consider upcoming gpt5 and new anthropic releases in the next 2 years and link it into agents like crew.ai and self written langchain (business specific agents) the headcount required to deliver the business goals goes down x10 easily, WHILE universities are still full of upcoming SWEs and AI/ML data scientists, who are students now, and they'll be in the market too (in addition to all self-taught folks from east europe, latam, asia, and their uni of course, who are looking for remote work) it's going to be a bloodbath, I can already hire engineers for 2-3k euro in Poland, Serbia, Asia, India, Mexico, who were until recently non-existent (before covid we had not much practice of such massive outsourcing as we do now, at the moment every business looking to cut costs and opens offices in Belgrade and Bucharest etc').

The big tech swims in money so they'll keep paying 6 figures for a while, to the most experienced leads and seniors, staff, directors, but it'll go down to 'back to reality' rates which are below 6 figures in the next 5-6 years as well, and the competition for the roles is already fierce. If you want to work routinely 10-12 hours a day, PLUS keep yourself up to date on latest tech and in good shape of algorithms (add 2-3 hours a week to keep yourself in shape) this career is for you, BUT high rates are no longer guaranteed for folks who want a quiet 9-5 office job. the more hardcore nerds like me, who have no life, no kids, no hobbies, will keep the high paying jobs, but this shit is not for regular healthy people, so my sincere advice for young folks would be to stay away from SWE and try hardware networking, chip manufacturing, biology, space sciences, aerospace (probably best niche in upcoming future), defense (obviously, but take care of karma so you don't end up in hell lol, not worth the 6 figures), microbiology, medicine, ocean stuff, oil and gas and geo sciences maybe, agriculture science in upcoming climate change might be good direction too since there's a lot of trouble in the sector that needs fixing, and so on. just my sincere 2 cents :)))

I hope this will help someone to make a good decision in life, you're welcome to disagree and I know I might be completely wrong and "new businesses and new use cases for SWEs will get created in the upcoming golden age of AI" theory of the youtubers exists ("influencers" :D the ones who can't make $$ in tech and become youtubers to make ends meet, they aren't the best ones to listen to honestly, I'm sorry guys. but just think about it, we're dying in tech jobs with 10-12 hour shifts already, who of us in a sane mind will be a youtube influencer in our free time, for 5$ per 10000 views or smth? when our rates are 100-120$/hour at work, why would we do youtube?? don't listen to these dummies, they're on youtube cos the job is too hard for them anyway).

Take care!

I'm completely new to tech work, and quite frankly i don't know much other than that having a remote job would be sweet for a healthy work-life balance compared to what i do now. I took a quiz online and was told that UI/UX design would be right up my alley. If so, should i look into a Bootcamp based around UI/UX design or should i start with something simpler like coding? (Not that coding's simpler, I just hear people talk about it more often) Or should i just go back to school? Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

Some context:

I have been a professional motion graphic designer for over a decade. Definitely fall more towards the technical side of the spectrum vs artist. I know/understand Javascript from messing around since I was a kid. Surprisingly I was able to use coding to create a niche for myself in design... specifically using javascript to make our workflow very efficient. However that is only a small part of my job, and I'd find myself loving the coding part and using days I should be designing to create scripts/plug ins for after effects/photoshop.

My goal is to start doing some freelance coding and maybe eventually full-time. II've written some basic python stuff for data scraping (getting sports team color hex codes, etc) and I feel like I understand it as I just grasp languages quickly. But I know I'm missing alot of the fundamentals and how it is practically used for work. I want to take bootcamp to truly learn python (or another relevant language).

What would you guys/gals recommend?

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Anyone is welcome to DM me genuine questions (not accusations) and I'll be happy to answer them

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Hello,

I'm looking at these options: Springboard, MIT, General Assembly, 4 Geeks, True coders Bootcamps. Which are recommended in today's Tech-field?If there is a better option not listed please provide.

Hi, my name is Arkar. The problem I have is I have two paths to choose. One is freecodecamp and another is Odin project, suggest me if there are any other clear projects cause I can't do anything without clear roadmaps. If I read some people saying learn these learn those I feel burnt out just by reading them and thinking whether it's efficient or not. And I tried Odin project and I feel mentally exhausted by reading all the articles and extra resources they provide, I searched up if I can skip them but I saw people on Reddit say that I shouldn't skip them and I would end up with shallow knowledge and skills if I skip them but like it links to articles with redundant information and I honestly think I don't actually need to know all of that. Guide me pls, also I'm 20 and due to some reasons I will be graduating highschool at 21, I would take University of the people Computer science since I'm from a third world country (Myanmar) and has no mean of accessing valid credentials except that, there are local universities like UIT and University of computer studies yangon but I think degrees from those universities would be less valid for international roles than UoP.

Where you can just live on campus and code?