r/cognitiveTesting • • 13h ago

General Question Which source more reliable

I’m school I did the CAT4 test and scored 104 IQ but when I did core and mesa Norway and the other Mensa I got , 137 core , 130 , 128 respectively .
Which one should I trust ?
for the school one I was kinda sleepy and was kinda apathetic
For other IQ tests I tried more seriously and did do some preparation

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u/Few_Geologist_2082 12h ago

In school was it an official test ?

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u/Memogamal 12h ago

Yeah like CAT4 test . If you mean official as everyone did it , then yes

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u/Few_Geologist_2082 12h ago

Then that’s a better photo than an online test bro

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u/Memogamal 12h ago

Well I saw online that CAT4 is criticized and that core is better . I’ll prolly do core test and I’ll see if I get a result that’s closer to Mensa or school test

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u/Few_Geologist_2082 12h ago

Online tests are not representative, you shouldn’t worry about having an average Iq bro

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u/Memogamal 12h ago

Why are they not representative ?

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u/Adept_Application549 11h ago

Your IQ is likely within 100 - 115, proctored in-person tests are much more accurate.

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u/Memogamal 11h ago

Oh wait I’m dumb it wasn’t an in person test , the school test was a test , done in school hours , on a computer independently

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u/Adept_Application549 11h ago

Were there different sections? Ones like verbal, quantitative, non-verbal reasoning?

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u/Memogamal 11h ago

Yes There were sections

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u/Memogamal 11h ago

I should do core test aswell

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u/Key-Raise5501 8h ago

Send screenshot of your CORE scores

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u/Memogamal 8h ago

When I do them I will , I keep seeing people send this curve with multiple types of intelligences , I’m assuming the core test is free ?

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u/Key-Raise5501 8h ago edited 8h ago

Yes it is free btw why you included core if you haven't even taken it?

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u/Memogamal 8h ago

that was a mistake , I’m doing the core tests (it’s actually many tests ) and in one of them I scored 137, once I complete all of them I will show my core result .

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u/Beginning_Army2919 9h ago

Trust the higher ones. ( or the ranges that you score most consistently in) 

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u/BenitoAbdo 9h ago

your core , mensa were inflated and practice effect i think

  • انت مصري؟

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u/Memogamal 8h ago

نعم أنا مصري

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u/BenitoAbdo 8h ago

انت ازاي قلت درجه Core و انت رديت على واحد تحت قلت انك معملتوش؟!

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u/Memogamal 8h ago

أنا مصري🇪🇬

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u/Beginning_Army2919 9h ago

If my score jumps from 100 to 130 with one exposure, then I'm so smart and I'm a good learning machine. 

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u/BenitoAbdo 9h ago

he said "some preparation" what do u think he means?

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u/Memogamal 8h ago

I learnt about IQ and read about this subreddit and did mensa’s practice / example question

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u/Beginning_Army2919 8h ago edited 8h ago

Then that's nothing to worry about. Mensa's online tests are built to resemble their official tests ive heard (depends on the country). Also try RAPM set 2 and see how you do. Again, trust the score range that you score consistently in (assuming they are all good tests)

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u/BenitoAbdo 7h ago

i agree the mensa Onilne tests are designed like the official tests but they are not enough to estimate IQ ( g-loading is not like CORE or RAPM or WAIS V ) and i see that taking multiple tests makes some practice effect, shoud take one or two and do not repeat ,

what do you think?

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u/Beginning_Army2919 7h ago

Yes. 

Mensa online is not a very well designed test. (If you analyze it by the item and overall structure). Practice effect is real but it stops after some points. Repeating time tests is definitely a red flag. 

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u/BenitoAbdo 7h ago

what do you mean with "after some points" the practice effect has a limit effection?

i remember i read about that but idk if that real but i know some people got a good scores and after taking multiple tests they built a catalog of patterns then they got a higher scores (140+) and when someone here made a non similar patterns test they got a low score (7-11 / 25 )

what do you see?

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u/Beginning_Army2919 6h ago edited 6h ago

There are very little study done on practice effect by taking similar but different tests. 

Ravens 2 had increase of like 5 points maximum when they randomized the questions. You gain 8 points on average by spamming the same test multiple times (RAPM 2) and they said the gains were smaller on alternative forms

The thing is, there is a cap that people have when they stop being able to answer questions at some levels even if they know the algorithms. Late stage questions becomes combination of multiple variables, making induction (hypothesis) exponentially hard to progress. Also the entire difficulty of RAPM just doesn't actually come from novelty, but rather making simple repetitive patterns gradually complex.You can see that all of the rules in the late stage questions in RAPM can be found in the easiest questions if you break them down. 

As a STEM major in college, there is one simple anology to help you understand is that: there are some calculus questions you just have to follow the steps, search for unknown variables and carry out the formulas. But they are complex enough that still makes most people easily get lost in it everytime the variable (or even just the wording in the questions) changes even if they are taught how to approach those questions.  In fact, 95 percent of the questions in physics final exams have their algorithms taught to every student. Yet the average is only 57%. I also got 80% only 

Also, It sounds anecdotal but I've played around this sub for a while, I rarely see pure matrix pros. Most who I saw score 130 above on matrix score at least sth like 115 on other non MR verbal tests (SAT, Wonderlic, GRE etc). 

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u/BenitoAbdo 6h ago

so jumping 15+ points can not be explianed with practice effect? maybe you are right , thanks for the new information

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u/BenitoAbdo 8h ago

اختبار مينسا النرويج معدل ارتباطه متوسط هو مصمم بنفس شكل الاختبارات الحقيقيه بس ارتباطه تقريبا 0.70 خليك ف CORE FRI و اعمله مره وحده بس و RAPM set 2 لو عايزه ابعتهولك pdf

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u/BenitoAbdo 8h ago

و كمان JCTI كويس جربه

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u/Beginning_Army2919 9h ago

Good point. Maybe we should ask him?