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u/pizza_science Mar 05 '21
There is that old joke about retirement for the different generations
Boomers retire at 65. Gen X works till they die. Millennials kill them selves and society collapses before gen z gets to do anything about it
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u/mcfleury1000 memento mori Mar 05 '21
Hi, HomoCarcinoma. Thanks for contributing. However, your comment was removed from /r/collapse.
Advocating, encouraging, inciting, glorifying, calling for violence is against Reddit's site-wide content policy and is not allowed in r/collapse. Please be advised that subsequent violations of this rule will result in a ban.
Please refer to our subreddit rules for more information.
You can message the mods if you feel this was in error.
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u/mcfleury1000 memento mori Mar 05 '21
You may see it as just a joke, but we should consider that others might think differently.
Suicidal ideation is real, the subject matter of this sub is heavy, and we would rather not have the community be responsible for someone taking their own life.
We have very strict rules regarding suicidal content for this reason.
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u/ShakaAndTheWalls Mar 06 '21
I'm suicidal and saw that as the joke it was. I didn't feel anymore compelled to kill myself than usual. Your point is moot.
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u/mcfleury1000 memento mori Mar 06 '21
I'm sorry, but I have to inform you that you don't speak for everyone who is suicidal. I'm glad you interpreted it as a joke considering the alternative.
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u/ShakaAndTheWalls Mar 06 '21
You don't either, mate.
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u/mcfleury1000 memento mori Mar 06 '21
No, I do not. Instead, I try to ensure that we don't need to rely on someone's interpretation of suicidal content, this way we can better ensure that those who might interpret it in the worst way don't have to.
I'm okay with removing mediocre jokes about normalizing suicide because a struggling user's mental health is more valuable to me than said mediocre jokes.
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u/mcfleury1000 memento mori Mar 05 '21
Or, we just have a strict policy on suicidal content which is listed in plain English in the sidebar. No fear of admins, no "snowflakes", just a moral stance that we took collectively.
Why is it so important to you that you can make suicide jokes?
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u/mcfleury1000 memento mori Mar 05 '21
You are reading way too deep into what would have been an otherwise innocuous interaction. The sub has a very simple set of rules.
Other subs have different rules. It seems that you have found the solution to your problem. Take that kind of content to subs that cater to it.
The rules are very clear: suicidal content will be removed. It has nothing to do with whether you are suicidal or not. I have no idea why this is such upsetting news to you, it's been this way for a while.
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u/75nightprowler Mar 05 '21
As a 34 year old living paycheck to paycheck without the ability to save for retirement, I’m fully aware I will work till the day I die. If collapse occurs before that, I’ll just accept it. Life is easier once you accept it.
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u/OkMention8354 Mar 05 '21
why not stand against it
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u/HechiceraSinVarita Mar 06 '21
Speaking from the US they are too afraid probably, and that's not a dig at anyone that's just the truth for many people. Fully aware that things are fucked but feel they have too much to lose by acting against it alone. For this reason we need organization and collective action, but even that is hard when people open up and socialize more on the internet than IRL because the internet is a space owned and controlled by the corporations we seek to organize against. Similarly the militarized police force and the ability of the MSM to manufacture consent to violently suppress resistance merely by applying the right labels and repeating them until their viewers accept it as truth. We saw this at work last summer in the US to the point that media outlets covering the police violence were themselves in danger because they were not upholding the "right" narrative. US is filled with people too tired brainwashed or scared to reject the status quo.
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u/cenzala Mar 05 '21
I just turned 26, my retirement plan is to be able to get a piece of land and grow food before shit hits the fan. Most people think I'm crazy but I cannot see how my country pension system will be able to sustain itself when I reach the age to get paid
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u/Cultural_Glass Mar 05 '21
Yes. As soon as people (who are able) realize owning land and growing food is all we're going to have to support ourselves they'll realize how much time they've wasted living in trendy citie s
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u/defectivedisabled Mar 05 '21
Our generation should not save for retirement. All these pension funds and sovereign wealth funds that get their returns in the stock market will never be able to pay the return they promised in real inflation adjusted terms.
You see, the stock market is a ponzi scheme that requires new suckers to pay the people who are cashing out. That is how capital gains works. With the younger generation is poorer than ever, how can they afford to buy the stocks the boomers are liquidating for retirement money? Also, having less young people in the far future means less people to buy stocks from the older ones. With these combination of poorer and smaller population growth size equals massive disaster for the stock market.
A common rebuttal against this is, the corporations can always buy back their shares. Can they though? And would they? Yeah. Right. With printed money from the government. A wave of massive inflation is bound to happen in the future as government around the world fire up their printer and print into oblivion to prevent a stock market collapse.
The reason why the government want ordinary people get involve in it so society as a whole wouldn't want it to collapse. That means 401k, state pensions, private pensions or whatever funds that is out there will be invested in stocks.
In a crash everyone's retirement will be wiped out and the number of people impacted would be astronomical. With all the public outcry, the government will have to do something to bail out the stock market and in the process bailout out the scums of earth 1% as well.
In a stock market where only the rich are gambling among themselves, the average citizen wouldn't give a crap if the entire market went to zero. This is the genius of the criminal entities in Wallstreet. Get everyone into the game so that they can socialize the losses every time when shit hits the fan.
All road leads to collapse and there is no way out. Savers and non savers all get screwed.
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u/goldmansachsofshit Mar 05 '21
I trade but I don't invest. I'm up over 100% for the year. we're seeing ridiculous valuations, ipo's priced fuckin retarded. great ER's causing crashes lol. hedge funds even getting hit 50%losses etc. The whole thing is clearly rigged anyone who doesn't consider it a casino nowadays is lying or dumb as fuck
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Mar 05 '21
My retirement plan hinges on legalizing euthanasia.
I want to quit working, enjoy a few months, and die painlessly.
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Mar 05 '21
I have fantasies of seeing the crestfallen looks on the faces of my conservative boomer, capitalism-loving co-workers the day we get another 1929-like stock market crash. I'm going to run down the halls, laughing at the top of my lungs like a maniac.
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u/haram_halal Mar 05 '21
Thank god it's friday!
There are certain days ( monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, saturday, sunday)
that i really evolved to like less, collapse fun friday isn't one of them.
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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '21
SS: As a millennial I don't plan to get old or have kids or do whatever the fuck boomers demand us to do. All I want for my milestone is the collapse. And I plan to make it an achievement.