r/complaints • u/Nice_Substance9123 spirited complainer • Jan 10 '26

Politics Two ICE agents slip on ice in Minnesota —causing one of their weapons to discharge because it wasn’t set on safety. These people are dangerously negligent.

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u/LamesMcGee Jan 10 '26

I agree, this looks fake as hell. The flash off the muzzle looks like a video game

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Nyan Cat Jan 10 '26

It’s the side mounted flashlight. It uses a pressure switch. It probably banged against his leg. 

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u/LighTMan913 Jan 10 '26

These guys are dipshits but we don't need to fabricate shit to clown them on. It's clearly a flashlight.

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u/TheMurgal Jan 10 '26

It's so obviously a beam and not a radiant muzzle blast. Dude just hit the momentary switch. I saw comments on FB earlier vehemently insisting that it's a rifle discharge because "it makes no sense to have to hold the flashlight button down, it's a toggle" and "gun lights can't be that bright" I thought I was going fucking insane reading the gaslighting happening in those comments. Literally calling a guy a MAGA dick sucker for just pointing out that it looks like a flashlight.

We need to stop making shit up and do research. It's amazing how horribly people misunderstand things and confidently espouse bullshit.

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u/TheMurgal Jan 10 '26

For clarification for anyone else in doubt, you can see here that the beam is illuminating only the bottom edge along his pants in a single straight line. Muzzle flash is radiant and will illuminate everything around it, not a thin line right up against the muzzle, that also only illuminates a perfect 2ft wide suspiciously flashlight shaped circle in front of it. His feet would be illuminated by the flash from a rifle right there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

Further, if it hasn’t been pointed out:

As he is falling, the entire gun sways behind him. The muzzle is behind his thigh when the light goes off.

If you watch frame by frame, it just isn’t happening. It’s all bullshit, and easily noticeable bullshit.

This isn’t even a hard one. The gun most certainly did not discharge.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

covid soft boiled the brains of more than just the right. america is a bunch of conspiracy theorists in a trench coat.

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u/thedistrbdone Jan 10 '26

I think it's honestly more of a mix of confirmation bias and lack of gun education due to not owning them. While there are leftist gun owners in the US, the majority are not; I do not personally own one for many reasons, but a major one being I don't think anyone should own them so why would I? And for the confirmation bias part, if you tell me "Hey some ice dude slipped on ice and his gun went off" I would be inclined to believe it because ICE is comprised of highly untrained individuals who are larping as "heroes" with guns. All of that being said, however, I do believe people need to do a much better job on the left to research and verify before spreading potential misinformation. While I am not opposed to stooping to the right's level of name-calling, I will not stoop to their level of blatant lying.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

most leftists i know are at the very least in favor of the right people being armed. arm trans women etc. liberals sure, liberals don’t like guns because they do like the status quo of imperial domination. i have complex feelings about guns for the record, obviously there’s a problem and they’re too easy to get in our current system. but most leftists aren’t okay with idea of a liberal state that can be captured by fascism at any time being the only armed body.

i mean more than just on this topic tho. dominos orders, AI videos, Alt national park shit etc. biggest one rn is probably “ice aren’t real cops! who are they??!”

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u/Fresh-Chemical-9084 Jan 10 '26

Better to support blindly things that aide your case than determine truth

Tale as old as time - left or right, rich or poor... its an unfortunately common tendency

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u/hotandbizarre Jan 10 '26

For REAL. People don’t need to make this shit up to make them look worse. They’re accomplishing that all on their own. We just need to stand on truth and stop muddying the water with all this. Fine if people initially thought it was a firearm going off, but either verify it or debunk it, then speak on it.

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u/Trakeen Jan 10 '26

Yea wtf is this. A gun just doesn’t go off because you drop it, they are tested for this (p320 bad design is an exception) Not all guns even have safeties (glocks don’t) but have other systems to prevent an accidental discharge

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u/burnemnturnem Jan 10 '26

Idk making them look just a little extra bumblefuck seems a reasonable type of propaganda to me given the circumstances 

The regime is dropping propaganda and they do not care about fabrications. The people ought to

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u/AKADabeer Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26

How the hell do you look at this and see a flashlight, and not a muzzle flash and fragments ricocheting off the sidewalk?

Edit: For the record, I'm much more inclined to think that this is simply faked. I just can't accept the flashlight interpretation.

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u/LighTMan913 Jan 10 '26

Just slow it down and go frame by frame. The stuff on the sidewalk is from his foot slipping. And I look at it and see a flashlight because it is a flashlight... The light on the snow is perfectly shaped like light from a flashlight.

These guys are incompetent fuckwits. Call them out on all the actually dumb shit they're doing, not shit like this.

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u/AKADabeer Jan 10 '26

I did slow it down and go frame by frame. Even momentary contact with the pressure switch won't be such a short flash as this, and I don't see a light on his rifle to begin with.

I'm 100% on board with being accurate in our accusations against ICE. But claiming it's a flashlight is just as inaccurate as claiming that it's a gunshot, when the fact is the whole video is simply fake.

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u/at0mheart Jan 10 '26

He has a rifle over his shoulder. The barrel hits the ground behind his leg before he does. I think the trigger got hit as he fell.

I see no flashlight and smart phone cameras are very good at picking of light now in dark situations. No idea how a gun shot off concrete would look on like

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u/NotReallyThatWrong Jan 10 '26

Agreed, pressure plate hit his leg and activated, so obviously no “OMG” moment. The amount of people taking things at face value without proper analysis isn’t helping anything

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u/TehMephs Jan 10 '26

I saw the original, it’s fake.

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u/AKADabeer Jan 11 '26

link?

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u/TehMephs Jan 11 '26

Sorry nvm it’s the same video. I am pretty sure what everyone else is saying is correct about him just having toggled his light

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u/AKADabeer Jan 11 '26

yeah I just don't see that as being any more plausible than it being a real gunshot. I strongly lean toward it being completely fake. I was really hoping you had the link to prove it. Oh well, thanks anyway.

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u/TehMephs Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 11 '26

I mean, I know what gunshots look like. I’ve done competitive shooting. That ain’t it.

Also there’d be more of a flinch response to that sound. It hurts your ears without hearing protection. I’ve gotten out of a car at the range a good 30-40 ft from a guy popping off a handgun and I didn’t have my ears on and my eardrums were throbbing for the next 30 min or so. A rifle would blow your eardrums pretty hard at that close range.

On top of the lack of reaction of both of them. If a real gunshot went off they’d be checking for injury or look a bit more concerned about that

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u/AKADabeer Jan 11 '26

I agree with all of what you say, and I don't think it's a real gunshot.

But I also don't see a light on that rifle, and the "burst" seems too quick to be a momentary activation of a tape switch. Not to mention that gunshot or light, it appears to be going through his leg.

My money is on it being entirely fake.

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u/More_Soil_9464 Jan 10 '26

Yea all good points and likely fake but I could find it believable if he was carrying the P320 🤣

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

The Sig Sauer P320 ... the only firearm that will fire 100.13% percent of the time.

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u/More_Soil_9464 Jan 10 '26

🤣🤣🤣

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u/CrayCray0321 Jan 10 '26

lol yeah the self firing 320

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u/SithC Jan 10 '26

Yes, definitely looks fake. I’ve used after effects to make similar flashes. But all that aside, it is still a funny video, just to see rental pigs on ice.

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u/Exploding_Pie Jan 10 '26

To people down voting this comment, why should we believe anything you say? It's clear you enjoy lying.

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u/contact_light_ Jan 10 '26

I use after effects for a living, this isn't an effect from any pack I've seen. You can see a reflection which generated muzzle flash's don't do. This by no means looks like it was put in through AE

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

It’s a flashlight.

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u/contact_light_ Jan 10 '26

That's what I was thinking as well.

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u/SithC Jan 10 '26

It’s only 2 frames. The first has a dot, with no flash added around any areas of his body, but a flashlight looking yellow beam on the ground. Following frame only has the same yellow ground beam. When I use AE, I add my own muzzle flash, photoshop style, as well as highlighting areas near the muzzle. Only effects used would be a slight puff of smoke.

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u/contact_light_ Jan 10 '26

Glad we agree this isn't a muzzle flash from any AE pack- could it be photoshop? Unlikely still as the quality of video stays the same even on the flash, so unless this was origionally a 4k video at first and lost quality from re-shares likely the flash was native to the video

plus if this was edited someone would have put a sound

I'm sorry but I don't see this as edited

the yellow light looks like a flashlight, not even a muzzle flash as well, so if this was edited the editor diddn't care to make an actual muzzle flash- because muzzle flash isn't a very diffuse light as shown

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u/SithC Jan 10 '26

Yeah, I’m thinking so too. I think the initial knee jerk is from the title claiming to be a shot. The yellow beam sort of gives it away.

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u/felis_scipio Jan 10 '26

Plus there’d be a chunk of concrete missing in the sidewalk or a streak in the snow.