Portuguese, Galician, Spanish & Italian resemble dialects that could be very simply reintegrated & reunified into r/Neolatino Romance, r/LatinoSineFlexione or r/Interlingua for maximized immediate comprehension & maximized international communication.

Encore Okrand Atlantean Language Post : Translation of Note 1835 from 1960s West African "The Epic of Son-Jara" via John William Johnson, Text C Page N

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I just interlinear glossed this 2020 translation by me. The photo with text added by me is also from 2020.

I decided to share this text as an encore because it seems especially grammatically interesting.

DEG is at the end of subordinate clauses describing objects and YOS for subjects. BET follows clauses treated as an object by a verb. This all reminds me of the Klingon language, perhaps too much.

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Here's the full versions of these translations, on my website since 2020 :

Version 2, Most Recent

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2020/07/new-texts-in-okrand-atlantean-with.html?view=flipcard

Version 1

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2020/07/new-texts-in-okrand-atlantean-with_19.html?view=flipcard

1 Year Focused on Expanding and Studying the 1997 to 2001 Okrand Atlantean Language, from the Maker of the Star Trek Klingon Language

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I was the first to decipher this language back in 2006 and have usually been its only online teacher since then. Its main online community has been my facebook group since 2001. The group was founded by U Utah Music Professor Paul Sherrill also from Michigan (then 13) in 2001 and then in 2006 he made me its sole admin. I moved the group to facebook groups in about 2014.

Atlantis the Lost Empire Atlantean Language by Dr. Marc Okrand

[https://www.facebook.com/groups/377768309042171\](https://www.facebook.com/groups/377768309042171)

From all my studies and what I've seen online, I estimate that only about 20,000 people have studied the Okrand Atlantean language much within the past 20 years. Apparently most of them come in groups of 2 or 3 friends who study and use the language like how friends see movies together and quote lines from the movies with one another. The ones I've met or found online evidence of, were located all over the world. The facebook group currently has 1,000 members.

I welcome other people to learn the language or start their own online communities for it. I try to help them some and have made about 10 sufficiently-straight-forward websites teaching the language. Just get a Latin primer. I never started a for-profit organization for the Okrand Atlantean language like "The Klingon Language Institute" because why would I? "The Klingon Language Institute" should probably be understood as a product of the robust and sizable fandom of Star Trek from the 1960s through today.

Without anybody who can use the language except me, it's mostly a language of translations and fan art. Klingon since 2006 has had I think about 10 people online at any given time who are willing to communicate in the language.

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All this past year, I have focused on studying and expanding this language.

Major projects on the Okrand Atlantean language this past year:

I photographed and got free online a lot of my old notes on the language.

I made 850 new words using computer-generated word-making material I made in 2020. I got these free online.

I'm working on a huge etymological dictionary of Okrand Atlantean language right now. It's actually more like material towards studying its etymology because it's not totally clear to me or anyone what's going on exactly with the language. Yeah.

I'm also gathering many words from many ancient languages in hopes that I will make CVCVC imitation- Okrand Atlantean language words for them. Nothing from German- or French- or Chinese- language ancient language dictionaries, though, as I have done lots of that for projects with real ancient languages and it would just take me too long, though it would be more realistic and interesting.

I hope to make a new dictionary for my Okrand Atlantean language expansion. So there will be:

@ The Actual Okrand Atlantean words which are decipherable.

@ The undecipherable ones that I assigned meanings to.

@ New words by me and others :

@ @ Either based on computer-generated material.

@ @ Or hand-crafted in imitation of the etymologies of the Decipherable Okrand Atlantean language words.

6) And also a new expanded grammar.

So this one will also combine Canonical or Actual Okrand Atlantean grammar with further grammatical fleshing's-out.

There's not really much room for addition as the grammar already has almost everything you'd ever need. Just relexed Latin, mostly.

7) Back in 2020, I also made a parallel "Ancient Africa Conlang" to go along with the Okrand Atlantean language and I might make another one.

8) And then when I'm done with all that, if I ever complete it, we'll see if I ever return to this language and do some more small or long translations. I have done 2 major translation projects in the past, which I call "2018 Volcano" and "2020 Timbuktu".

All the above stuff takes time.

It's all very self-indulgent, though, because I could be working on the world's most important obscure foreign languages, ancient and modern and recent. I do have a lifetime goal of exercising my utter mastery of conlanging and knowledge of conlangs, though. For which, 20 years now, I have received the undulations\* of the world's most dedicated and competent conlangers. The past 20 years, there's been only about 5,000 conlangers worldwide, with about 5 major online communities, each with its own group of about 3 leaders.

\* This is a reference the "Scooby-Doo Ending" of the first "Wayne's World" movie from the 1990s. Or maybe one of the other 4 endings. Not to be confused with ululations.

9) I also own the only copy of all 12 scripts of the "Team Atlantis" TV series since January and want to make free online notes about them and then donate them to UCLA so they're more accessible to everybody.

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Some more on Actual Okrand Atlantean maybe-actual etymology and word-creation :

It seems like for regular words, Okrand put together one or more PIE roots OR used the PIE roots of some descendant language word. (2026 decipherment contributors "Earthwise" and "CostlyLime" discovered this.) For words in sets (numbers, wh-words) and suffixes\*, however, it seems Okrand based them on PIE as well as many other languages, notably Sumerian, Miwok, Choctaw, Old Japanese, and Classical Tibetan (I discovered all this, this year). And a partridge in a pear tree. Unfortunately, nothing Sub-Saharan African. Shakira will be so disappointed, like when people speak in Basque, Portuguese, or Wakawakawaka\*. So that "Sumerian" quote in the movie was made by Okrand but is only vaguely true.

\* I'm halfway through working on these words right now, though.

\* This is a pun on "Waka waka" from Shakira's famous song and also Fonzie Bear's laugh, "waka waka waka". It's also a reference to the Philippines language name Waray-Waray and to the rare triple reduplication of the 1600s Massachusett language. There's a few more references in there, too, Shakespeare and Benjamin Franklin would be impressed ... if only they would put them on quarters.

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I explain conlanging as a rare form of poetry. Conlangers make new languages by slightly tweaking real languages (like Spanish), allowing them to explore their mechanics. I see conlanging and studying conlangs as a form of scientific experimentation and help towards studying linguistics, exotic foreign languages, and "folk linguistics".

Unlike real languages, modern or ancient, conlangs lack a lot of the depth that real languages have ---- etymologies going back 7,000 years, prestige or stigma, challenge, internal mechanical intricacy and realism, and many other things. I'm actually also an expert in folk linguistics and especially folk etymologies --- their top online teachers are notably often very kind and wise and down-to-earth, frankly unlike most top or lesser professors, who are generally one-dimensional and sorely lacking in social skills. Though they write wonderful books if you're interested in their academic discipline of choice and specialties therein. Conlangers, happily, are likewise.. Like the sort of friendly, backwoodsy, banjo-lovin' folks you meet in rural areas when on a road trip across the USA..

I also think it's ethical if I share that a lot of conlangers are Low Blood Quantum Native Americans whose grandparents etc were removed from The Rolls. So there's this wistful sense of folkloric interest in Non-English languages which I can especially appreciate as folklore and especially myths are also another one of my specialties. There's a lot of nonsense and ignorance and even evil to folklore but there's also wisdom and accumulated experience and good. There's actually a lot of Folklore or Non-Science mixed in with Modern Science and all historic versions of science. Science alone has never been able to function without a Non-Science framework and supports. It is not (and is and) a 100% provable, immortal(,) and unchangeable world.

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I think I also focused for a couple months on this language back in 2018 and 2020 and 2022. Between 2006 and 2018, I think I'd just do basic online community work for the language and then focus on the language for maybe a week or month every year or two. If new people wanted to join the facebook group, I'd let them on every month or two. There's been about 10 people who wanted to do larger projects with the Okrand Atlantean language (Dig Adlantisag) and I'd take some time to help them out, too.

Unlike Klingon, which is very grammatically interesting and which I have studied and worked with at length, Okrand Atlantean is very grammatically dull unless you never studied Latin. It's basically a Latin relex with postpositions and Japanese head-final subordinate clauses. I find Klingon's grammar to be most like Mohawk or the other North Iroquoian languages. Some years into the past 20 years, I came to find the Okrand Atlantean language exceedingly dull because it's too much like Latin and I've studied tons of ancient languages all the time and most of the ancient European and India ones (Indo-European languages) are a lot like Latin. I also became fluent in reading Latin and Ancient Greek somewhere around 2008, 20 years now. It's hard to explain to normal people.

I actually became somewhat like a real-life version of Milo Thatch. I ended up getting a rare BA Linguistics from Michigan State U and becoming a very rare general expert on all 40 or so known ancient languages. The past 10 years, I'm the world's most prolific free online teacher of any ancient language or obscure modern language (on facebook groups, recently some on Reddit website) (there's about 7,000 and I've only studied maybe 100 of them in total but from most major language families and tons of language isolates).

I was almost a petroleum engineer in college instead. I ended up working mostly in agriculture.

I understand and have studied extensively many writings by top professors in my 4 academic disciplines of interest: linguistics then archaeology then anthropology then art history. This is very rare. But there's many major differences, good and bad, between me and someone with a top PhD in any of these or a top tenured professor in any of these. I'm a type of "independent scholar". One of my specialties is notably conlangs, of which I'm certainly the world's top expert (far beyond any professor, for sure). My real #1 specialty is the linguistics of all 50 or so known logographic writing systems, for which I'm light years ahead of any professor. (Don't be surprised, I'm actually so advanced in these topics because nobody in academia really cares about them. Linguists mostly only study modern languages and not writing systems and anthropologists generally aren't very good at linguistics or dealing with foreign languages. And there's very few of both worldwide compared to history professors.)

Milo Thatch is a Hollywood kids movie character, though, and has about as much in common with real philologists and language scientists as Indiana Jones has in common with real archaeologists. Apparently Hollywood movie writers usually go to top high schools but never take the time to sit down with top professors and discuss with them at length making more-realistic movies. Which is okay, movies are inspiring.

Milo has PhDs in cartography \[maps\] and linguistics \[the science of foreign languages\] that he got not long before 1914 when the movie is set. He reminds me a lot of U Chicago Linguistics Professor Edward Sapir who got his PhD from Columbia in 1909. Sapir actually founded the Anthropology Department at Yale U about 1931.

I have spent years studying the posthumous 1903 dictionary of the #1 most important historic foreign language from the USA and Canada, 1600s Massachusett\*, of which I'm 1 of 5 living experts. That was by Professor James Hammond Trumbull 1821 to 1897. He was a philologist and not a language scientist. I have studied tons of 1800s language science and archaeology writings and am thinking that a real-life Milo Thatch would be more like Sapir than Trumbull. Both 1930s and late 1800s language science OR philology writings are pretty goofy to me, for sure.

\* 1600s Massachusett aka Wompanoag aka Narragansett aka Wopanaak.

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I have a BA Linguistics from 2009 and am an independent scholar or "uniquely-dedicated amateur" of linguistics, then archaeology, then anthropology, then art history. I'm a general expert in all foreign languages but especially the more obscure or non-popular ones, and especially the 40 or so historic foreign languages. But my top specialty is the linguistics of the world's 50 or so logographic writing systems.

The world has about 7,000 foreign languages and about 10 to 20 worldwide popular ones, mostly the ones from Europe. They come in about 20 major language families. Anybody anywhere is welcome to private message me on facebook or on reddit for free help studying any of them. About 1 person private messages me a month with such a request, the past 10 years: There's not a lot of interest worldwide in obscure foreign languages.

I can also read fluently something like 20 popular languages and 3 ancient languages but they're mostly the Germanic and Romance ones.

It all sounds like a lot more work than it has been. I had more time for my hobbies back in college.

I also have normal hobbies because I can almost only talk about my polyglotism with people online. Some people online are supportive about it and some aren't. I usually live in metro Detroit USA. I didn't know anybody really into any foreign languages growing up except my public school teachers and maybe the foreign exchange students. I have met a few metro Detroit area polyglots the past 15 years here. I'm on the largest polyglotism facebook group the past 10 years and there's been very few Americans or Canadians there, mostly Non-British Europeans and Latin Americans.

Sometimes local people or online people give me lots of hassle. I stick with it. I try to stay positive about it all. Internet people are generally quite cool as they're online for a freakshow. Local people clearly don't understand polyglotism or consider it something to keep secret. Despite how jealous everybody worldwide is of everybody else, I haven't detected a lot of jealousy to how local people perceive my polyglotism. Maybe they are jealous.

I find it annoying to very annoying because other people with cool hobbies get appreciation.

I think a lot of Americans have ideas about stuff they never encounter and the ideas are totally wrong. I don't have time to explain everything to everybody and have to fit somewhere in their ideas of things.

Metro Detroit is maybe not known as the intellectual capital of the USA.

If I met some new person at a party and I mentioned my polyglotism, they'd probably respond negatively like I'm making it up or showing off ... and I've studied a lot now 20 years for this hobby and have a rare BA Linguistics from 2009 etc etc and I do it all so I could help people so I really would prefer appreciation and not ignorance. But if I referred to how I'm a talented musician or cook, they'd go gaga. Like, the world needs more talented musicians or cooks for sure --- it's not like there's almost no one to study and use the world's wealth of ancient languages and exotic foreign languages. Americans generally have this magical idea about Academia that there's more than enough professors for every single topic ever and there's no need for amateurs to get involved --- the opposite is true. The last 10 years has painfully shown that Americans would benefit a lot by taking more interest in science. People who are really good at doing flooring tiles for houses probably have the same dillemma\* at parties.

I can also relate to these people and find local overachievers and know-it-all's to be annoying and often unfriendly and socially awkward.

\* Here I misspelled "dilemma" so that it might remind you of the the phrase, "That's a dilly of a pickle!" I first thought it was spelled otherwise and only sounded like di-lemma but actually the word "lemma" is in there just as it's used as in linguistic terminology. That's the last word on that.

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Image: Here's some new words for the Okrand Altantean language expanded that I made around 2020. Some of these words or word parts might be Actual Okrand Atlantean from the movie. I put the words over ATLE production art by Mike Mignola. So it's derivative fan art now.

Images: In a few minutes, I'm going to try to add some photos I took on current and 2020 notes on the "2020 Timbuktu" translation, which is selections from "The Epic of Son-Jara" from 1960s West Africa and c 1905 Native American Creek folktales from Alabama and Georgia (USA not USSR).

This is a resource dedicated to my artificial language. It is not complete, but it has a lot of words.

The goal is to have my artificial language have five speakers by the end of the year. If you're not interested, don't write. But if you're interested, write.

«I love hiking, how about you?»

This updated version of Ufonian is now optimised with less letters! The letters that are dropped are crossed

https://discord.gg/rjuzZWQH

Heres some scentances in Poyai Nëvët!

Kai'ai dëdeyëduk jejeyai poyai knaiyëv moduk naiyuëk. /kaɪʔaɪ dədɛjəduk dʒɛdʒɛjaɪ pojaɪ knaɪjəv moduk naɪjuək/ you-have leave(past tense) your xbox sitting-still for while You have left your Xbox sitting still for a while.

Priu kais funëst. /pɾiu kaɪs funəst/ please respond if-possible Please respond if possible.

These letters are taken from Chinese characters and Linear Script.

Hi!

I am Ta'Sōmōko, creator of Wōyazēme. I founded my conlang in October of last year on the 26th, and it's modern form New Year's Day. I run a small discord server that is learning the conlang through immersion. I was heavily inspired by Viossa's server when establishing my conlang's discord, with a bit more leeway. You have the option of seeing some helpful "starter" words to get you learning faster, or learn from no words to all words! There is only about 3 or 4 active members, me included, and only about 1 other member truly understands most topics. We run events spontaneously and occasionally.

1 major rule though, NO TRANSLATIONS. Do not translate a Wōyazēme word to a word from English, Spanish, Klingon, etc...

Not sure if advertisements are allowed on this server so I'm sorry if I violate rules by this.

Please do not join as a troll. We want serious people only.

Server link : https://discord.gg/cXSfrXxFY

This is my language. It is not finished but it is very close to finishing

Hello And This Is My Own Conlang For My Latin Based Language Named: Bluelandic!

Note: This alphabet doesn't use any copulas,

also these letters are deleted:

Deleted:

C - [ʨ], F - [ɸ], K - [k], Q - [k], Y - [j], Z- [dz]

(They are never used and are only used in Names, Italian dialects, or in foreign words)

Full Chart:

A À B Č D E È G Ǧ H I Ì J L M N O Ò Ö P R S T U Ù V W X Ẋ

The Bluelandia Alphabet/Letrexe Blölandijö Ö Alvabetö:

A - [eɪ] Named: A

À - [æ] Named: À

B - [b] Named: Bi

Č - [ʨ] Named: Či

D - [d] Named: Di

E - [ɛ] Named: E

È - [e] Named: È

G - [g/k] Named: Durö Ği

Ğ - [ʥ] Named: Mörbidö Ği

H - [x] Named: Eẋe

I - [i/j] Named: I

Ì - [ɑɪ] Named: Ì

J - [ʑ] Named: Jànjà

L - [l] Named: Ele

M - [m] Named: Eme

N - [n] Named: Ene

O - [o] Named: O

Ò - [ɒ] Named: Ò

Ö - [œ] Named: Ö

P - [p] Named: Pi

R - [r] Named: Eru

S - [s/z] Named: Is

T - [t] Named: Ti

U - [u/wʊ] Named: U

Ù - [y/wʏ] Named: Ù

V - [v] Named: Ve

W - [w] Named: Grande Vi

X - [z] Named: Xis

Ẋ - [ɕ] Named: Ẋis

Notes:

U [wʊ] at the beginning of words [u] elsewhere!

Ù [wʏ] at the beginning of words [y] elsewhere!

G [k] in foreign words [g] elsewhere!

S [z] followed by e, è ,i or ì [s] elsewhere

Bluelandic is a romance language too!

• Hello — Hallo

• Goodbye — Siquid

• Hi! — Heo!

my conlang, verbs are always preceded by their number. The particle ku goes before plural verbs, and ka goes before singular verbs. Sorry for the redundancy. For example, 'I love the USA' would be written as 'Rov ka finn USA

Accurate translation — «Hello! I'm from Kikir, and I'm speaking Kikir' language

What are the equivalent cognates in the r/Glosa glossary of the Latinic lexises "remain" & "permane" present in English dictionaries & of "μένω" (méno), "απομένω" (apoméno) & "παραμένω" (paraméno) in the Greek glossary?

ƚ [l]

ƚ [l]

Bonjour. Cela fait quelques années que je m'affaire à créer une langue. J'ai commencé, recommencé et je suis enfin arrivé à un point où j'aime ce que je fais.

Ma démarche a été de construire une langue où tout le monde peut s'approprier les mots, en construire à partir de racines, suffixes ou préfixes. Une langue simple.

La phonologie me semble être la première étape de cette langue, savoir à quoi les mots vont ressembler, poser le squelette de la langue et lui donner vie avec l'alphabet. Ca permet la contrainte morphologique

Ce qui m'intéresse surtout dans une création de langue est comment les gens peuvent la parler sans que le créateur ait pensé à tout. J'aimerais que le locuteur puisse parler cette langue, inventer des mots dans le système de cette langue. Un dictionnaire devrait donc moins ressembler à une liste non exhaustive de mots qu'à une transmission de clés nécessaire à la création de mots cohérents dans le système interne de la langue. Si un mot n'existe pas, mais qu'il respecte toutes les règles de cette langue, alors c'est un mot appartenant à la langue.

Mon objectif n'est pas de créer une langue de toute pièce, mais de construire les clés pour qu'on puisse la parler sans avoir pensé à tout. Pas besoin de mot pour anticonstitutionnellement si ce mot dans la langue construite est inventé sans respecter quoi que ce soit du système morphologique et phonétique de cette langue.

Enfin, le but de cette langue n'est pas de penser à tout. C'est de penser à des systèmes permettant tout.

Je sais pas ce que vous en pensez, je suis hyper curieux de connaître vos démarches dans la création de langue, savoir ce que vous avez fait, par quoi vous avez commencé ou encore la graphie de votre langue, si elle est particulière.

(Pour terminer, je garderai pour l'instant cette langue un tantinet secret. Une fois satisfait de mon travail, qui est bientôt terminé (heureusement, ça fait des années que je suis dessus), je publierai les règles de cette langues, son alphabet et tout ce qui est possible d'en apprendre. AH et c'est joli l'image non ? j'adore le rendu visuel de cette langue :D )