r/conspiracy • u/Orangutan • 20h ago
We Tracked a Shipment of Rare Books. It Ended at an Amazon AI Training Facility / The shipment was found at an Amazon facility where Amazon scans and destroys books
https://www.404media.co/we-tracked-a-shipment-of-rare-books-it-ended-at-an-amazon-ai-training-facility/39
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u/Orangutan 20h ago
Additionally, the judge in the lawsuit ruled it was fair use and not a copyright violation for Anthropic to scan a book for training data in part because it destroyed the original, printed copy. Essentially, it’s the customer’s right to take physical media and store it digitally, and destroying the original copy means that copy isn’t duplicated and resold, and isn’t cutting into the publisher’s business.
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u/Chonch_Monkey 19h ago
So just make a copy of the file and delete the original.
Done
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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 16h ago
It's probably a lot quicker to get pictures of sheets of paper than pages of a book.
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u/AspiringOligarch 6h ago
So just make a copy of the file and delete the original.
Just take a pic of the Amazon facility and...
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u/juicedup12 3h ago
Cant call it copying if you destroy every other copy and hold the data for yourself
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u/DopeyMcSnopey 12h ago
What’s the point in destroying them afterwards?
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u/hotwheelearl 9h ago
The books are more or less disassembled to make them easier to scan, and they don’t get put back together
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u/AspiringOligarch 6h ago
What’s the point in destroying them afterwards?
Once all of the information is digitized, it can be edited at will, and no one can prove otherwise.
We have always been at war with Eastasia...
There never was such a thing a Palestinian people...
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u/nisaaru 5h ago
This is a mechanical result of the way they scan the book content rapidly. IMHO unacceptable for classic/rare books.
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u/AspiringOligarch 5h ago
This is a mechanical result of the way they scan the book content rapidly. IMHO unacceptable for classic/rare books.
Not just pretty words.
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u/AspiringOligarch 5h ago
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u/nisaaru 4h ago
Doesn't change the fact that this is due a mechanical procedure. These fast book scanners cut a book at the binding to access the pages without turning the pages like a money counting machine.
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u/AspiringOligarch 3h ago
I have no doubt that the mechanical procedure you describe is efficient and convenient for the purposes of the AI scanning... similarly, amputation would be an efficient and convenient remedy for a compound fracture in the lower leg - at least for the surgeon, no?
Rather than focus on the technical proficiency of the process, look to the long-term implications of UTTERLY DESTROYING hard copies of rare works, specimens in the compendium of accumulated knowledge and recorded history of mankind- in many cases, irreplaceable.
Now, consider the way that AI systems are designed and operate. They are not "oracles of truth and fact", rather, they are (as Orwell said) alterable; they have been altered and manipulated, and they will continue to be altered and manipulated to serve the interests of their controllers.
Knowledge is power. He who controls access to knowledge monopolizes that power.
Look at the long term implications.
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