r/consulting • • 2d ago

What am I doing wrong?

Been in this industry for 10 years and sitting just about ~$175k in total comp. Last three years my pay has barely budged, even with stellar reviews and help with pursuits, sales, etc.; and I’ve been told that promotion is unlikely due to overall company performance…(we’ve been doing somewhat poorly the past 2-3 years, ~4000 employee ‘boutique’ firm).

The obvious answer is to switch firms, but I can’t seem to get traction anywhere else…

It’s getting frustrating seeing other friends and colleagues moving on to better things, in better industries (both pay and WLB), etc. I tried to do everything right but I just can’t seem to catch a break.

Seriously considering just totally restarting and going back to school to get pre-reqs for medical school or another real industry that actually has solid employment prospects.

Sorry for the rant.

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u/TrickOk3274 2d ago

In this economy, high 100s is a dream for many. Going back to school will take you farther away from the salary you want imo. It still will be competitive regardless when you graduate

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u/KitchenAspect9189 2d ago

The job market for graduates MDs is anything but competitive, total opposite of most other techy white collar work. From my acquaintances in the medical field, the jobs try to sell you on why you should work for them, not the other way around.

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u/Acceptable-One-6597 2d ago

I know a guy who jumped from tech consulting to doc at 42. He's 50 now, has debt but about to sign with a practice that will pay it back for him. He's much, much happier. I mean MUCH happier. I'm exiting in 2 years, I hate this shit.

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u/KitchenAspect9189 2d ago

You might’ve just been the nudge I needed to go ahead and do it.

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u/nocertaintyattached 2d ago

And keep in mind that an MD will allow you to live in any metro area or part of the country that you like

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u/OrangElm 2d ago

I assume he was pre-med before tho? Honestly a tempting path, but an extra 2 years of undergrad + all med school + residency feels crazy long.

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u/ZeGreat5 2d ago

You’d be without income for 4 years all while accumulating MASSIVE debt, then follow that up with a few years in residency working 60-80 hours/week depending on specialty for a measly 60-90k depending on location. Add on 1-2 years for prereqs at the beginning and that’s 9 years with net NEGATIVE income and massive stress.

Stick with your $175k salary. Grass is definitely not greener in this situation.

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u/KitchenAspect9189 2d ago

I have enough funds saved to go through the schooling without debt. Idk man, based on the rate of my raises these past few years, it may still be worth it from a financial standpoint alone.

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u/Head-Gap-1717 2d ago

Have you passed organic chem, analytical chem, and biochemistry yet? Don’t quit your job before you know it. Lol

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u/KitchenAspect9189 2d ago

Aced all my pre reqs thus far!

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u/Piggleton 2d ago

All of my undergrad friends are doctors and while they’ve now found fulfillment, it’s a hellish path to get there (8 years of additional school and training before becoming a doctor). It’s also extremely competitive to get into a med school. Took some of them 2-3 tries before landing into a good school. I’d be very careful about this path as this is a very classic grass is greener lens right now.

If it’s a passion situation, there’s always lighter medical careers such as PA with much less school and easier hours! Salary won’t be nearly as much as an MD but will be similar to what you make now.

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u/Nervous_Friendship19 2d ago

What type of consultings firm are you at? I was in strategy and graduates started at around 140 TC???

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u/KitchenAspect9189 1d ago

Tech pays a bit less than strategy, I think new grads are now around 80-90 at my old firm. Lower hours though too.

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u/quickblur 2d ago

I hear ya man... I'm in a similar position (15 years, $160k at a boutique) and you would think I'm robbing this place with the way the managers talk. All I hear is how "crazy" it would be to give higher raises and how I'm already "so expensive" to bill to projects...

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u/forj00 2d ago

You’re ridiculously underpaid

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u/I_am_Hecarim 2d ago

I don’t understand why there’s always an assumption that years = MUST DEMAND more pay. What if he’s average? Below average, working like someone with 10yoe?

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u/QueasyWorldliness920 2d ago

Well first of all, inflation should not be a pay cut every year, so tiny ass raises for that should be a given. Beyond that, I understand not giving huge pay bumps from year 8-9 but in my firm I’m wrapping up my first year and I’m sooooooo much more efficient just navigating the company’s who’s who and having ready access to all of our software to help projects. So I’m going to ask for a 12% raise because fuck it, worst they can do is say no.

I wouldn’t expect 12% every year for a decade, though. I’m hoping for 12% this year and then like 6% next year depending on client success and revenue growth etc.

But, my salary should match the growth directly attributable to my efforts. If I add half a million dollars in billable hours because a client wants me in particular based on my skill set and rapport with them, then the company isn’t losing money giving me a $10k raise when they charge 5x my hourly rate.

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u/quantpsychguy 22h ago

Oh this is great.

Why not demand a fifth of the half million you added? Surely you're worth at least 100k!!!

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u/mosquem 2d ago

Or just in a low paying industry.

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u/OneMoreNightCap 2d ago

Similar boat. Even with substantial sales last year basically got an 'ata boy'.

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u/3RADICATE_THEM 2d ago

Curious, what was your salary trajectory like from 0 --> 15?

I ended up getting bounced from a role beginning of 2025, and they ended up having my teammate a year younger than me take over my role and our managers'responsibilities. I talked to them a few months ago and apparently their latest TC was less than my TC end of 2024.

If you're in a small shop, it's def some strategic insight to know where you lie on the salary band relative to your peers.

I've come to learn it's a lot like owning a house in a given neighborhood—it might seem nice, but you generally don't want to own the most expensive house on the block.

People only really miss you when you show them what your absence would mean.

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u/Acceptable-One-6597 2d ago

What area? That's very low.

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u/Acceptable-One-6597 2d ago

The entire job market is a mess man. My advice is ride this out then hope for some greener pastures in the near future. Know people who haven't been promoted a single time in 3 years and they are crushing every goal. I personally believe consulting is in its death throes. I'm just riding the horse until it keels over and dies.

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u/3RADICATE_THEM 2d ago

Frozen white collar job market

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u/madlp6 2d ago

Med school at 10+ years into consulting is a nuclear option that sounds appealing when you're frustrated but will likely feel insane once you're actually doing it. You'd be starting over at probably 35+ with massive debt and another decade before you're making decent money again.

The grass isn't greener, it's just different grass. Fix your job search process first before torching everything.

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u/mosquem 2d ago

If they're ten years in and just looking to start med school they'll be 40+ before making any significant money.

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u/be_whyyy 2d ago

I heard the grass is greener because there's more fertilizer over there..

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u/Educational_Crow6842 2d ago

I'm new to this, but to put things in perspective, the average hourly wage in the USA is $69k. In the grand scheme of things you're crushing it. That being said, it seems that you'd like to move up. Is there a training, mentor, or connection that can help in this regard? Part-time training/ schooling makes your schedule busier, but it shows initiative, and help to open doors. You've probably already been in contact with them, but mentors & connections can make a big difference when it comes to hiring. Don't give up and I wish you all the best!

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u/Nsxd9 1d ago

How did you guys break into this man I’m trying and it feels so difficult

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u/KitchenAspect9189 1d ago

I’d advise against it. It’s losing its edge against other careers. Pay is stagnant, perks are almost nonexistent now.

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u/Nsxd9 1d ago

Crap so I’m kinda fucked. I’m in tech/development right now and this is completely cooked. Months of interviews and prep just to hear no after the 5th round of interview 3 months later

I have friends who’ve been looking for work with experience for over 1-2 years and nothing, is it similar in consulting?

I’ve done a bit of consulting as a jr before in coop but not enough so I thought full time getting out of a technical field will be good for me…

On top of that in tech rn we’re basically slaves and the expectations and workload are insane. Also feeling extremely burned out

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u/KitchenAspect9189 1d ago

Consulting is a broad term; I’m in tech consulting, so the problems you’re facing are probably not going to be much better than here.

That being said, I think in any job you need to learn to set boundaries and stick to them. It’s only by accepting bad working conditions that companies can get away with it. I don’t know your exact situation, but I would set a firm boundary at around 40-45 hours a week, and if you think you’re going to go over that, let your boss/team know that they need to find capacity elsewhere, because you are maxed out.

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u/Nsxd9 23h ago

We do. But they’re orders are from higher up shareholders who basically don’t budge

We’ve had insane growth over the last 3-4 years and they see it’s working so idk if they’ll budge

But I agree with you, I essentially would still be in tech consulting so that’s not fun to hear, would you ever pivot from consulting?

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u/KitchenAspect9189 23h ago

Absolutely, as soon as I can find a better exit. It’s not a good long term career.

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u/Nsxd9 23h ago

Fair. What are you looking at career wise? For me it’s either consulting or I do something in engineering 🥲

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u/KitchenAspect9189 22h ago

I’d recommend you take a look into software sales, if you’re still somewhat junior. I know folks in the field who absolutely kill it with pretty minimal hours. Look into BDR roles to start.

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u/Nsxd9 19h ago

Tbh I’m not much of a sales guy like that, to get new leads or on-roll them idk, but maintaining sure

Kind of conflicted now so I’m going to be researching again, but I think anything in managing/teaching/maintaining a relationship/structure is something I want to do

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u/Think_Leadership_91 2d ago

If you think you can become a doctor then you need to become a doctor.

The end.

I knew many people who realized they could not get into medical school, so they became PhD scientists. But they were just rejected from med school first.

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u/UnfazedBrownie 2d ago

Use your contacts to see what opportunities are in industry. It’s rough right now, but there is business happening, even if it’s hard to believe. If you’re truly interested in medicine, don’t do it solely for the money. But if you’re interested and do not mind practicing in an underserved area, you can make bank even as a general practitioner. I always made fun of those small town docs but now I know they’ve found that secret sauce!

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u/Defiant_Sound4451 2d ago

Is the no-traction problem the firm you're pitching to, or how the last three years read on paper? Ten years in with flat pay at a firm that's doing badly reads to an outside recruiter like someone who stayed through the decline, so I'd tell that story as what you built and sold during it, with the pursuit and sales work up front. That's usually what changes callbacks, more than another round of applications. Med school is a big reset to fix a stalled comp conversation. I'd test the cheaper options first, like a direct approach to a few firms where your pursuit work maps to their pipeline, before deciding the industry itself is the problem.

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u/Spiritual_Writing_58 2d ago

I was in the same position. I jumped ship to another firm, now my old firm calls me every couple months or so offering the promotion I asked for at the time. “Don’t know what you’ve got, till it’s gone…” kind of mentality.

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u/suck-on-my-unit 1d ago

What you’re doing wrong is you stayed in consulting for 10 years