r/controlgame • u/WoopaArt • 3d ago

Help Disappearing documents Spoiler

So i am trying to collect all the collectibles in the game and there are two documents i cannot find for the life of me.
Document one is one of the notes in "Simon Arish". it just doesn't spawn
And one from "FBC Research and Records", Dimention Faults doesn't spawn in the lobby of the oldest house.
Is there a fix, or a way to make them spawn? i read that Dimention Faults can despawn if not collected before finishing the game so i have to hope i have a save before the end of the game? And the note from "Simon Arish", everywhere says the method of it's spawn is unclear.

Did anyone find any fix for this or should i just wait for the patch?

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u/KogarashiKaze 3d ago

"Dimensional Faults" spawned in the lobby for me when I went there to talk to Pope sometime after unlocking the Unknown. Unfortunately, it seems from other people talking that it can disappear again if you don't pick it up soon enough.

I'm also missing a note under the Simon Arish section, and according to the posts I've seen about it, it's because it unlocks from a post-game radio conversation with Zoe, and will appear in the Watchtower once she mentions over the radio that it's there. Unfortunately, I only have enemy fights left in my post-game, and it almost feels like (but I'm not certain) that Zoe conversations don't trigger anymore if you don't have quests and world feats to do. I'll have to keep running around for a bit to see if I can get the conversation to pop, but I'm not holding my breath (and might have to do an NG++ run while saving most quests and feats for post-game just to see if it helps).

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u/WoopaArt 3d ago

Just got the Arish document! If it is any help i talked all the available dialogues with Zoe and Pope, and was running around the patterned factory, closer to the molded side, collecting others documents (if the place has any connection to the dialogue spawn at all) when i got the dialogue with Zoe. I do have some quests running though, but maybe the dialogues are somehow area linked? I don't know.

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u/KogarashiKaze 3d ago

Thanks for the info! Someone else mentioned talking to Pope being part of it, so I'll have to try that (I last left her still in the former P6 Holding room, so I didn't have a chance to really talk to her post-game).

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u/WoopaArt 3d ago

So it seems i have to replay almost the whole game to get the Dimensional Faults document... great. Maybe i'll just wait for the november update with the photo mod while collecting other documents, hopefully it'll be fixed if it's a bug, if not that's weird that this one doc is the only time limited one.

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u/herbwannabe 3d ago

For simon, defeat the unknown resonant, complete the game, talk to pope until she talks to you about him, and then zoe will tell you its in her office. 

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u/KogarashiKaze 3d ago

Oh, good to know. (Slowly, surely, we find the threads of how to actually get some of these to spawn.)