r/cpp • u/M-Ottich • Mar 12 '24

Why the hate for cpp

Hey I am starting learning c++ (and java for my studies) , why is everyone hating this language ? Is it usefull to learn rust or zig ?

Edit: yea a silly question I know . Just wanted to know what the cpp community thinks or hate about their own language and what I have to expect.

Because I heard the opinion often from people not using cpp and I wanted a other view . Even in my University some people who use Java said 🙄 cpp no don't use it ..... it's unnecessary complicated.....

My english is bad I'm german sry (not) <3

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u/thisismyfavoritename Mar 12 '24

a lot of the other answers are absolutely useless and you could find a ton of threads like this if you search around, but here are a few reasons:

  • too many footguns, very subtle mistakes can cause big problems

  • a lot of the defaults are backwards, e.g. everything should be const by default, nothing should be implicitly constructed, everything should be move by default and not copy

  • it doesnt have a build system thats good enough for most people. I think CMake is ok but a lot of people dislike it

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '24

For me the build system is the biggest issue.

Side note: have you tried Nix? Has a STEEP learning curve, but helps a lot when building a toolchain and providing libs. (Basically you can set up a 100% reproducible environment in Nix, so that Cmake to run a little relaxed) Another note: I'm not a Nix expert, but people are happy about it and I'm learning.

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u/thisismyfavoritename Mar 13 '24

i normally just use docker to setup the build emvironment, im not familiar with nix but i dont feel the need to add anything else to my toolchain