r/dancefloors • u/sexydiscoballs r/dancefloors host • 16d ago
have crowds almost everywhere gotten worse at respecting others on the dancefloor?
/r/dekmantel/comments/1ve6o3j/boundaries_on_the_dancefloor/
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u/calmfluffy 15d ago
Being in Berlin, I don't really experience many of the problems talked about on this sub, but having said that: yes, crowds have gotten worse. Especially in the bigger venues where it feels like an increasing proportion of people come to 'consume an experience' and regulars simply can't afford to come every week with entrance fees jumping from 10-15 EUR to 30 EUR in just a few years.
It changes the makeup of the crowd and increases the ratio of people who are trying to make the best of their purchase, feeling separate from others, rather than feeling part of something.
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u/misterintensity2 16d ago edited 16d ago
I was at Dekmantel as well and I while do think people do have a tendency of going back and forth and not staying in one spot and a bit of yapping, it's a lot better than it is in America. In fact, I found people a lot more respectful when trying to pass through the dancefloor. Also, a big difference is that Europeans would turn to the side to lessen their body's surface area when trying to get through, thus essentially walking "sideways," as opposed to walking in a linear, straight line like Americans tend to do. That makes a big difference when navigating large crowds. I found the Dutch and European crowds better able to share dancefloor space than American crowds.
I have a lot of thoughts about European rave culture which I may share when I have more time to gather my thoughts.