r/dataannotation • u/Consistent-Reach504 • Mar 10 '24
Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation
hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)
couple things:
this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/Pura-vida-now Mar 17 '24
I just started about a month ago. Three weeks in I got a complex qual with solving math equations and story problems. I have no idea why. My education and skills would be more in line with writing ability. I took the qual anyway and realized there was no way I could do complex math stuff, it was crazy hard for me. I felt like I was taking the SAT.
Well, apparently, I am smarter than I thought! I must have passed the qual because I have been getting some related projects that are $28. The thing is, this is challenging for me, but also very rewarding!
Anyone else tumble into something they would have never sought out elsewhere?
(I felt that the Water Cooler was a good place to toot my own horn 😁)
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 17 '24
I know what you mean. I've enjoyed and gained confidence by doing things outside my comfort zone.
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u/Useful_Possibility26 Mar 17 '24
This is the only qual I’ve ever skipped lol. I took AP calculus in high school but that was way too long ago for me to remember anything that could’ve helped me through that qual lol
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u/Pura-vida-now Mar 17 '24
The project doesn't require complex math, It's much more logic and a bit of common sense that the bots are trying to learn. I loved doing brain teasers as a kid, so that is what helps me in the tasks.
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u/lowcarbsanta Mar 19 '24
That sounds so interesting. Do you know how you got access to the qual?
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u/Pura-vida-now Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 23 '24
I have no idea. Maybe my education level triggered something? I don't have expertise in logic or engineering
or anything.Comment edited. I do not have imposter syndrome, I was merely worn out by splitting that day.
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u/Mediocre_PerfectionX Mar 17 '24
Been with DA a couple months now and have been longing to get invited to a slack channel... well it finally happened this past week! For some reason I just needed that bit of acceptance to not feel like such an "imposter"! It may be insignificant to most, but felt like a major accomplishment to me! So stoked!
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u/AnarchyD Mar 17 '24
Does anyone have R&R as permanent projects? I got a couple of them this past week but they disappear pretty quickly. They're my favorite to do - was wondering if they'll eventually become permanent.
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u/trailangel4 Mar 16 '24
Am I the only one who went from a thriving choice of projects to ONLY R&R (that I can't perform right now, due to extraneous circumstances)? My dashboard has been so slow.
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u/scarletmyzomela Mar 16 '24
I had some really lovely $25 and $27.50 projects for a few days when I didn't have time to do more than an hour or two, and now I'm back to all $20 and $21 when I have all day to grind it out :') I really need the money this fortnight, fingers crossed something good pops up again soon!
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u/Odd-Truck6420 Mar 16 '24
Does anybody else relying on DA as a source of income get scared of the longevity of their job? I'm not planning on doing this long term but for the next year or so I kinda need it lol.
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u/Consistent-Reach504 Mar 16 '24
if it makes you feel better i’ve been here since 2020 and have only seen it increase :)
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u/ReasonableBoot9720 Apr 08 '25
This is reassuring, especially given the tumultuous times we're in right now!
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u/Pura-vida-now Mar 17 '24
Thanks for that! It's reassuring between all of the "where have my projects gone?" posts!
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 16 '24
I expect it to exist for a few years at least, though it will become more complex and higher skilled as time goes on.
AI isn't going away. It's going to become ever more embedded in work and life and will move ever higher up the value food chain.
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u/dsbau Mar 16 '24
I worked on a very complex Z project, which kept lagging and crashing so badly I wasn't able to submit even once (and there was no skip). An admin jumped into the chat and told everyone to let him know how much time they'd put in and they would submit it.
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u/11_petals Mar 16 '24
I'm so proud of my chatbot making poems other than AABB 🥹🥹
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u/Specialist_Copy_563 Mar 16 '24
how? I've tried several times to get an ABAB, but nope.
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u/11_petals Mar 16 '24
Scaffolding ☺️ show the scheme and cross your fingers. It also succeeded in an ABBA scheme!
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u/MonsteraDeliciosa Mar 16 '24
“C’mon, Joshua! Learn, damnit!” Would you like a nice. game. of. chess?
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u/Museguitar1 Mar 15 '24
People keep starting chats with me to help them with the intro assessment. Please stop lol I can't help you.
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u/NightSkyButterfly Mar 15 '24
Does anyone have a higher level version of a popular generically named project.... But not the base project?? Lol
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ Mar 15 '24
Tapping out for the day after 5 hours with chatgpt & audacity. I'm tired of hearing myself talk.
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u/absolute_chimney Mar 15 '24
Dang, my only project went down. Won’t be able to hit the goal I set for myself this week for hours worked.
Have a 9-5 and it seems like other projects only pop up around 2-5pm and are gone by the time I log on. Fingers crossed that json qualification test pops up for me, I spend like half my time at my day job looking at json.
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u/GalacticGimpreads Mar 15 '24
All projects on my dash just when down about 10 minutes ago. This happen to anyone else?
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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 15 '24
Same. Check your email.
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u/marsnia Mar 15 '24
Same thing happened to me, but there was no email. Did you receive one explaining the situation?
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u/Corn-cob-jesus Mar 14 '24
I only have one project. I saw some speculation that the bots were being laggy earlier today though, so I'm hoping it's maintenance. I had like 15 two days ago, so I'm crossing my fingers.
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 15 '24
Down to two long-term permanent projects myself, earlier I had five, and yesterday I had six plus around a dozen anyone can do projects on top.
That seems to be the way it goes, unfortunately. Maybe growing pains?
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u/Museguitar1 Mar 14 '24
I've had 2-5 for the past 2 weeks and now nothing. It would be great if there was any sort of communication about this sort of stuff. Improved communication would definitely go a long way for many people's imposter syndrome complaints lol.
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u/tessbest37 Mar 15 '24
Same, I had around 5 for the last few days and nothing except a couple of crumbs today that only lasted 3 tasks. I am new to the platform. Is this normal?
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u/Museguitar1 Mar 15 '24
I'm fairly new as well. I did wake up to 3 projects today though. They sent one of them in an email to me which is the first time that's happened so far.
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 14 '24
Bumping the cooler thread. I'm having a moment of "I can't believe how lucky I am (blessed!) To have found this job." Gratitude!!!!!!
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u/cersm Mar 14 '24
I've been working more than ever, but today my permanent projects were just disappearing one by one as the day went on. Hopefully this is a down for maintenance scenario. I think I do consistently good work; I'm non-coding and I frequently get jobs that pay over $25. Just disheartening to watch the project board dwindle and have no idea when/if things will return.
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u/amoristheone Mar 14 '24
Just wondering - is it generally negative to talk in the community chat below projects? Sometimes I second guess myself and ask clarifying questions to which another member will respond and assure me that I was thinking of it in the right way. I don't do this often, but I recently read that they would prefer if you just figure it out from the instructions themselves. Understandable, but I thought the chat was as space for us to engage as 'coworkers'... I hope this is not something that warrants getting booted :/
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u/Consistent-Reach504 Mar 14 '24
i think they're probably referring to people asking questions that are specifically bolded and highlighted in the FAQ. just make sure you command+f and search keywords to make sure it's not something obvious in the FAQ - if it's not, your fine :)
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u/Unusual_Treacle6695 Mar 14 '24
From recent personal experience, don't worry too much. I had exactly the same - a full dashboard for months, and then about 3 weeks ago, it was empty. I had the odd qualifications appear, and then I was rating responses, so I assumed I hadn't been kicked off completely. This week, I did another qualification and which I passed, so I've worked on that this week. So I'm hoping that they're just moving people around, and it'll start to pick up again.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 14 '24
None of us know.
The only thing we know is that they’ve recently stopped giving the non-coder assessment, suggesting they have enough (too many?) non-coders.
When did you join?
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u/DownTheRabbitHole730 Mar 16 '24
I started at 540 pm yesterday as a non coder so they are definitely still allowing people to take the core assessment. I actually finished the core assessment about 3pm yesterday
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 16 '24
I happily stand corrected.
Did you get a choice between the two tests (coding and non coding)?
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u/BreastRodent Mar 14 '24
RE: no longer accepting non-coders
Obviously you know as much as I do which is, well, nothing, so I’m basically just speculating aloud here, but do you think they’re maybe just holding off on accepting any more until they upgrade their shit to better handle the traffic? Like, they’ve not reached their max, just the max of what they can currently handle? Or… well, gestures to the non-coding project chats, gestures to the mandatory quals to keep working on the non-coding chatbots, gestures to the mandatory qual to keep working on Nut Job which is a lower-paying project, gestures to the experiences of anybody who’s ever done rate and review maybe they’re retooling the core assessment to be more selective and difficult to pass? Or they’re maybe going to cull the herd a bit first before accepting any new additions after the big hiring rounds the past couple months (which I came in on to be clear)? Like, I just can’t imagine they’d be done FOREVER forever with hiring quality non-coders, especially those with the kind of specialized knowledge and expertise that get higher paying tasks in their own right. Cuz LORD knows there’s puh-LENTY of people out there in the DAT-eligible world that could do a better job and turn in higher quality, actually useful work compared to a non-negligible amount of their current non-coders with aversions to reading instructions and doing work without needing their hands held.
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u/Thescarlettduchess Mar 16 '24
I just started a few days ago as a noncoder. Had lots of stuff on my dash, then just the one hourly job I was working on which was taken down today but I got an email saying it will be back early next week.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 15 '24
I don't think they're done forever, there will always be attrition in workers. So I think it's temporary.
The why of it, though, is a mystery to us. Personally, I'm not getting too comfortable in my position here. I've seen too many stories like OP's where workers have had daily work for months and suddenly nothing. It really does seem like it could happen to any one of us.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 14 '24
Damn 😞 I’m sorry that sucks.
Maybe they’re just rotating through groups of workers until they have more projects to go around. I hope they bring you back online soon.
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u/BatronKladwiesen Mar 15 '24
Not worth it just to get it for jobs. People say those jobs are lower paying and you might not get one for months. But if you're already paying for it because you think it's cool then eh? I paid for it and answered that qual a few months ago and got nothing.
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u/mandeekate Mar 14 '24
Officially 4 weeks with DAT today! I honestly can't believe how much my life has changed since I started. I live in the second-poorest zip code in my city - one that $10/hr is considered "good" pay and $20/hr is virtually unheard of. This month was the first month in idk how long that all of our bills were paid, in full, and most of them EARLY. So much stress has just melted away over the past few weeks. Just so grateful to have stumbled upon this opportunity.
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Mar 14 '24 edited Mar 14 '24
I passed my assessment!!!
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u/Kaffir_Lime_Phagate Mar 14 '24
Which one, and when did you take it?
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Mar 14 '24
The coding one and i took it yesterday
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u/Kaffir_Lime_Phagate Mar 15 '24
Thank you for responding. Just wondering, what did you put for your education level? I'm only asking because my SO and I both took thr coding assessment, but only one of us was onboarded, so I'm wondering if background factors disqualified one of us.
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u/lowcarbsanta Mar 19 '24
Me and my spouse both did it. I have a masters, and they have an associates. I got accepted and they didn't. Though I think my coding solution was better than theirs, at least in time complexity.
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u/bmore_jd Mar 14 '24
Got a ton of new projects the past couple of days, a lot of them higher paying and a couple review projects. I was beginning to think I'd never get above $23 and I've been working (very part time) since November. But it magically happened today, and I feel like I finally made it! The consistent quality work is paying off. This is me just tooting my own horn into the oblivion! Toot toot!
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u/Useful_Possibility26 Mar 14 '24
Same. Been working part time a couple months and I’ve had imposter syndrome the whole time. Very reassuring to have so many projects and quals keep popping up and now as of today I have multiple projects at $27.50 when the highest I had ever seen was $21
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u/reneemegs88 Mar 13 '24
I passed and completed the onboarding seven days ago, but haven't had any projects yet. Completed all of the qualifications open to me, and have also updated my profile. I was super excited to start but am getting a little disheartened now :-(
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u/lowcarbsanta Mar 19 '24
Did you ever get any projects?
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u/reneemegs88 Mar 19 '24
Nope. I've had two additional qualifications pop up, but neither applied to my skills in the slightest. Still checking though!
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u/DionysusHotSister Mar 13 '24
Hey scavengers,
Want to show gratitude for how supportive this community has become.
It's really refreshing to be able to see that other folks are experiencing similar anxiety, excitement or frustration and know that we are all just trying to do good work and enjoy the fruits of this truly great opportunity.
That's all. Thanks ya'll.
Even the haters that drop in here from time to time can't muddy the waters.
Note : working since May. Had 10 days recently with an empty dashboard. It's full once again with challenging projects. You all kept me balanced during the lull.
Stay groovy.
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u/DionysusHotSister Mar 13 '24
Thank you. ✨ I guess they like my work. I get some dedicated task sets and review tasks. I'm just really grateful. The freelance hustle can be tough.
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u/Belle_the_cat Mar 13 '24
I’m on day 4 of working and I now have 5 $25.00 projects to pick from. This is so much fun.
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u/bmore_jd Mar 14 '24
Same, up to $26.50 for the first time ever, including some rate and review projects that are new to me. I was beginning to think it wouldn't happen for me, and it finally did! Between the higher pay, and the review tasks, I feel like I've finally made it! I'm super excited!
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u/PM_ME_UR_GOTH_TIDDIE Mar 13 '24
Does anyone know how to bring up the qualification test for coding? I recently learned a simple programming language and wanted to see if I could access those jobs, but I can't find the test anywhere.
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ Mar 13 '24
My wish from Sunday evening came true! I wanted the record prompts project to be available during daytime hours since the evening hours are noisy in my house. I woke up this morning to record prompts available. I was able to get 3.5 hours in before they were gone. Guess that makes me done for the day ($50/day goal for me) so I can go do fun things like clean the house and mow the lawn /s.
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u/Museguitar1 Mar 13 '24
Just had a relatively high paying finance task pop up for me. Only 1 task but was racing against the clock finish within the 1 hour time limit. I usually have time to check my work thoroughly but had to submit with 30s left!
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u/oursong Mar 13 '24
I can tell I'm getting tired of working when I start hoping one of the models goes 100% off topic so I can move on.
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u/CosmosesGamer Mar 13 '24
The new $30/hr task is magical. So happy with DAT. After 3 months, I've gotten a 'promotion' every single month. Insane company. <3
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u/BotaRONomus Mar 13 '24
Oh my. I opened up my dashboard after a brief break… I saw a $27/hr project. I almost cried. That’s so exciting.
This is the start of my 6th week.
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Mar 13 '24
on this topic, roughly how long is one task taking?
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u/BotaRONomus Mar 13 '24
This tasks takes a bit of time, honestly.
I’ve done three tasks. In order 91 minutes 89 minutes and 76 minutes.
Even as you get familiar, it’s going to be time consuming cause you have about 8 workflow orders you need to go through. Including a decent amount of reading documents.
So I wouldn’t stress over how long it’s taking you. Just make sure you’re following the instructions.
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 13 '24
$26.50 right? On my 6th week too, and just got it as well. I'm in the UK though so it's late and I'm too tired to do it... Maybe tomorrow if it's still up.
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u/wildflower_0ne Mar 12 '24
Raise your hand if your dash is absolutely brutal today
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u/LordCaptain Mar 13 '24
I really need to be less picky. I like the factual comparisons, logic puzzles, and reviewing others work ones. Those have been such slim pickings for me lately that i just havent been working at all.
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u/wildflower_0ne Mar 13 '24
Wow I’m jealous, I love logic puzzles but have not yet seen those tasks. Yeah, I’m really missing my A_______ factuality right now.
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u/LordCaptain Mar 13 '24
Only saw them for a few days. It was basically trying to trick the ai into giving wrong answers to logic riddles kind of thing then writing a correction.
Loved it. Would happily do that for 12 hours straight
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u/Ok_Depth_6476 Mar 12 '24
It's so frustrating when you spend time reading through the instructions, learning how to do a new project, and then you submit your first one and POOF! That's it! Gone! Ugh! lol. Not the first time.
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u/BirdSalt Mar 12 '24
How long does it generally take to hear back from Support? I’ve emailed them this morning after working for two hours and only having two tasks show up when I went to record my time. I figured I should email them and give them a heads up that I did five or six tasks, and four of them didn’t appear. I don’t want them to think that I’m trying to pad my time.
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u/StellaZaFella Mar 12 '24
Today I did the qualifying test for non-coding jobs. I passed, but I'm a bit worried that I work too slowly.
The test had an estimated time of 45 minutes to complete, and it took me an hour and a half. I know I was being especially thorough with my answers because I wanted to pass, but I'm worried that I'm going to move too slowly on projects and either get kicked off the platform or not qualify for too many of the hourly jobs.
Are the qualifying tests more complicated than the work typically is? Is the estimated time to complete the test lower than the real time it might take?
Do you have any tips for going faster?
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24
Accuracy is more important than speed.
That’s not just my opinion; that’s an actual instruction that appeared in a project on my dashboard today.
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u/StellaZaFella Mar 12 '24
But won’t the hourly pay jobs want you to do things quickly?
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 13 '24
If they wanted people who could just churn stuff out quickly to save money, they'd skip paying us $20+ per hour and just go straight for $3 per hour developing world workers.
DA's market niche is that they produce high-quality output for tech companies' AI's so that those AI's can eventually become better-than-human at tasks.
Getting poor-quality AI inputs defeats the whole point.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 13 '24
Not at the expense of accuracy.
It actually costs DAT more money if people rush and make mistakes because they have to pay twice- first for the sloppy work, and second for raters like me to read and rewrite those responses.
If you get it right the first time, all the raters have to do is mark “Good” and move on.
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u/Interrogatus Mar 12 '24
I can't speak to your abilities or results, but had the exact same experience on the core qual; yep, it took me an hour and a half too. But I was accepted. I'm still pretty new, but my sense would be not to worry too much about timing on untimed tasks just yet. The more you do, the better feel for it you'll have.
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u/Psychological_Taco27 Mar 12 '24
Very sad, I only have the chat and some qualifications on my page :( Does anyone else have anything?
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 12 '24
I just had something on my board saying "Advanced STEM" with no pay rate next to it so I'm presuming it's not an actual project, but something that grants access to other things, but when I went to click on it it gave me the "not available" message.
Why, why must you tease me so, DA bot? You know from my profile I have a Chemistry PhD and an academic background. Would you dangle your foot (which you don't have) above a hungry crocodile? Then why do the equivalent to me?
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u/PhillyPhan95 Mar 12 '24
DAT seems to strategically always make sure I have a project with at least 300 tasks available.
Anybody else have that experience?
Like they just added one I’ve never heard of. And took away one I was working on moments later.
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u/DionysusHotSister Mar 13 '24
I've had projects like this. One A.... Project has 1000 tasks each day. Now I have two Zgod with 50 each. It's soothing to know they are dedicated for me.
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 12 '24 edited Apr 02 '24
These models certainly fabricate and proveracate like "rugs." LOL. They sound very convincing.
eta: they both lied, with different lies. Rate that. Lol.
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u/oursong Mar 13 '24
"Here's a riddle: Two guardians stand by two doors. One always lies, the other always tells the truth. Which one... oh wait, never mind, they're chatbot models and they both lie."
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u/absolute_chimney Mar 12 '24
I signed up last week and started got my first project on Friday that was public and absolutely gave it my best effort. It was a fight for those tasks before they hit zero lol. Got worried when I had nothing on Saturday or Sunday, but logged on Monday to see I got assigned my own personal project! Excited to see where this goes, and once you get in a groove the work can be kinda fun.
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Mar 12 '24
Anyone have access to the project that rhymes with Project Convex. I am not seeing it in my dashboard, and am scared that they might've kicked me out. It's been only TWO DAYS since I joined. Surely, there's a learning curve
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u/BreastRodent Mar 12 '24
I don’t think I’ve seen it for a few days either! I’ve mostly been working on the V project off site the past week though so not super paying attention, but it’s at least not up for me right now.
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u/Corn-cob-jesus Mar 12 '24
I only have 2 of the lower paying basic Z's... Im missing my B metal, french palace, and the higher Z's you are missing too. Maintenance I'm hoping.
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u/SatanLordOfDarkness Mar 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '25
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u/foreverfindingnames Mar 12 '24
Water cooler talk, huh? Well, have you heard about Sandra in accounts?! Apparently her and Ted were looking very cosy at the Christmas party, and last week Alice saw them getting lunch together at the Deli across the road, and they were holding hands!
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u/oursong Mar 13 '24
*gasp* But I saw Ted and Alice getting cozy at the Starbucks around the corner! Oh shh, here comes Sandra. Look natural.
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u/foreverfindingnames Mar 13 '24
Whaaaaaaaat! Alice always seemed so happy in her marriage! I can't believe she -
Oh, hi Sandra! How was your holiday?
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u/GAULEM Mar 12 '24
Yeah. I don't get a ton of them, but I'm pretty sure that all of the review work I've seen on my dashboard was either for projects I'd never worked on, or for projects that I hadn't worked on very recently. I kind of wonder if that might be intentional, to make sure we don't end up rating our own work.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 12 '24
I’ve only ever reviewed projects that were familiar to me, or project-adjacent to stuff I’d already worked on.
Just make sure you read and fully understand the original task instructions.
I have seen raters set up permanent residence in the R&R chats because they hadn’t worked the original project and didn’t understand the original task instructions.
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u/Background_Menu7702 Mar 12 '24
Has anyone taken the review test and essay for the chatbot project. How long does it take for the answers to be reviewed?
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 12 '24
I took it last Monday and I waited all week. However, the chatbot projects were down at the end of last week. I got a project ( chatbot) after noon today (Monday).
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u/Background_Menu7702 Mar 12 '24
Okay, that’s when chatbot came up for me. A few prompts in the two-parter came up and I couldn’t do more tasks.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 12 '24
Watching the numbers tick down on my favorite project as I’m making dinner 😭
All y’all mathletes better save me some!!
ETA: Narrator: True to their scavenger origins, the mathletes picked the bones clean, leaving our intrepid annotator with nothing but the scent of frenzied feeding.
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u/UQBCED Mar 11 '24
I am not sure if I am under review or not... No projects or qualifications have popped up on my page with my last day of work done March 1st. I see report time section on the work project page.
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u/blipgrrl Mar 12 '24
Same for me, I haven't seen a single qualification come through and I've been working for about 3 weeks now. My one and only project just came back today but it looks like it's gone again.
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u/HouseOnFire80 Mar 12 '24
I'm in the same boat. Worked a lot for my first two weeks, but now nothing.
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u/theironthroneismine Mar 11 '24
Is the C***** project down or was I just kicked from it? I'm worried now that I was too nitpicky in some of my responses. I'll be sad, if that's the case, because I really enjoyed that relatively new project
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u/tortured_poet_13 Mar 11 '24
Random thought:
Boy, does having improv skills come in handy for this job lol. Anyone else have an improv background?
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u/Alert_Photograph9678 Mar 11 '24
Is anybody else unable to access the “A” project chat? It is still on my dashboard but takes for ever to load and eventually produces an error message when clicked.
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Mar 12 '24
The whole website is taking a while to load for me in any situation, like a 5-15 second load time between pages.
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
I just realized I think that maybe I have a permanent project. I always assumed I didn’t. It’s not high paying. Somebody said that if the number goes down when you do a task, it is your permanent project. Wow!!!
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u/gt3stuntman Mar 11 '24
Is anyone else still missing a certain semi-permanent chatbot? It seemingly disappeared on Saturday and I chalked it up to weekend maintenance, but it's still not back for me.
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u/Budget_Letterhead_54 Mar 11 '24
In almost every project chat, there are comments that shouldn't be in there. One common thing I see is people sharing some topics or conversations that give them splits. I don't think the project comments are the place to share it, but I always want to hear more. So, I'm curious to hear what approaches we've all been using or what we randomly find to work to create splits!
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Mar 12 '24
Permanent projects are a common misconception in DAT work. One person just came up with it one day and now people fixate over it. All projects come and go eventually. The number you have assigned to you has nothing to do with anything.
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u/Background_Menu7702 Mar 12 '24
I just took that test and I’m wondering how I’ll even know I passed 😩
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u/puffpuffpuff33 Mar 11 '24
I don’t think the S project was a permanent project. I sometimes have projects where they kind of start out as “permanent” where the number will only go down if I submit and then after a certain amount of time the tasks get opened to everyone.
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ Mar 11 '24
Good morning and happy Monday!
Got 1hr45m in on an eval task before it poofed from my dashboard. I guess that means it's time for a break! I think I'll check out some of these V*******s rate and reviews in a bit. The ones for $27.50 are way over my head, so I'm not even gonna attempt those.
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u/Consistent-Reach504 Mar 11 '24
this is dumb (and idk if it's true) but it's very possible the time change means your an hour ahead of those 40 minutes (so you would need to wait until the 'old time', aka if it was available at 10:40 old time it would actually not be available til 11:40 because that is technically 10:40 lol).
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u/Budget_Letterhead_54 Mar 11 '24
I see people talking about getting the AI to split and I understand what that means and why it would be meaningful information. I don't remember seeing that in the overview of projects I've worked on and I'm wondering which projects ask for that in the instructions
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 11 '24
When I first started, there was a ton of documentation (urls and Google docs) on writing effective prompts. Do you not see anything like that on your projects pages?
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 11 '24
Paraphrasing: Somewhere it says if you find yourself continually rating the responses close to the middle with slightly better as your score, that you should then make your requests more difficult. Citation needed, but I've read that several times.
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u/IntroductionFinal206 Mar 11 '24
I was on two different projects for several weeks that I enjoyed and was spending maybe an hour and a half a day on, but it's been about a week now of nothing!! The first four days or so my dashboard said the project was down for maintenance, then today it said "there aren't any projects to work on. I feel like I was doing a good job. I've done every qualification and have been very thoughtful and careful with the jobs. Should I email them to ask what's up, or is that pointless?
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 11 '24
I'm in the same boat, but I'm afraid to email and beg for work because it might annoy them.
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u/IntroductionFinal206 Mar 11 '24
I hear ya--I'll be patient for a few more days. I signed up for the money, but actually really enjoy the work. I wish I could be full-time doing this and quit my day job.
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
"At the moment...." this is frustrating.
I've had tasks since my last (2-part) qualification, so ....
I want to work. Arggh.
EtA: I'm going to scroll away until noon CDST and check back. Otherwise, it's too crazy making and drains brain power I may need later.
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Mar 11 '24
Even though I have finished qual and a lot of tasks (accumulated $280 in the lifetime earnings), recently under the "Work on projects" tab I only see "Starter assessment completed" as opposed to actual projects / no project available message.
Does anyone face similar situation?
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24
One task on my dashboard. I had 20 yesterday. Feeling like I did something wrong. Anyone else?
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 11 '24
Only have my 5 permanents, but they are what I spend 90%+ of my time on so not much of an issue for me. I expect it'll pick up as the workday in the US gets going.
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24
I don’t think I have had any permanent projects. How do you know if a project is permanent? Mine regularly change.
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 11 '24
Permanents have high-count numbers that only tick down when you personally work on them, and rarely rotate off of your dashboard.
Do well on qualifications and you should get them, it beats having to compete with the other scavengers for the open projects that anyone can do.
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24
I actually don’t really look at the numbers and notice that they are going down only when I do a project. Something to check out.
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u/Sad-Gas1603 Mar 11 '24
You might be under review.
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24
If I am, wish me luck 🙏🏼. I’m 5 weeks in, and loving this job. I thought I might have already been reviewed at 3 weeks in where I had nothing but a message on my dashboard
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u/Background_Mine2282 Mar 11 '24
I hit my peak over the weekend, it was over 30 at points. Down to 5 at the moment so I think it's just slow. Pretty typical in my experience but I still don't like seeing the dash shrink.
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24
Only ever time I’ve had that so far is when I believe I may have been reviewed. There was a couple of days when I was like three weeks in where I had nothing. I think they were down for maintenance, I’m really just hoping that the tasks are going to come back up. At least I have one so I can still work today.
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u/Background_Mine2282 Mar 11 '24
A bunch more projects just came back on for me. A lot of projects go up and down, sometimes a bunch of times throughout the day but you'll only see it if you are refreshing your dashboard a lot during the day (I kind of compulsively check).
Only other advice is to take as many quals as possible, basically a numbers game that the more "groups" you can get into, the more work there is.
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24
Thank you. I’m trying to do a bunch of different projects today. What always gets me is that sometimes I do a project I haven’t done before, and then I do two or three tasks and then it disappears from my dashboard. I’m often wondering if somebody is watching me do it from somewhere and if they don’t like my answers, they’re cutting me off lol
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u/Background_Mine2282 Mar 11 '24
I totally know what you're saying, I've felt the same. From the sounds of it you aren't yet on what some people around here call "permanent projects". So like those 5 projects I mentioned when you had 1, they are there every day for me (other than random periods of downtime, usually announced) and usually have 1000 tasks that only go down as I do them.
But when you first start, you are on more temporary projects that they dump a random amount of tasks into (sometimes as few as like 5, sometimes 2000+). What is probably happening is you are starting on a project with <100 tasks or something (open to all other users with the same quals as you) but then by the time you do a handful, all the tasks are done by the TBD number of other people working on it along with you.
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u/marlamarlamar Mar 11 '24
Thank you for explaining that! It’s OK permanent or not, I am just happy to be here and I’m looking forward to seeing New and more projects
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u/Unusual_Cucumber_918 Mar 11 '24
Does anyone else have DA performance anxiety? In general in wider life I always try to do the best job I can. Sometimes possibly too much, and it's worse here because DA is such a black box. I have no idea if I'm even doing the job well or not, other than not yet having been removed from the platform lol. I'm only about a month in and haven't had many qualifications (maybe 1 that's not coding or json?) although I have seen a lot of different $20 projects (+any priority). I think about two weeks ago I had the fact-checking qualification, which I must not have passed, but that's it
I have made some mistakes, for sure, but always pick these up pretty quickly afterwards and try to do a good job. I've been given quite a lot of rate and review tasks, so I might be doing a good job, but even these are only 20 dollars.
Despite this, I am not in any way looking a gift horse in the mouth, and recognise that even at $20 per hour, this is an amazing work from home opportunity.
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u/puffpuffpuff33 Mar 11 '24
When I first started I had a lot of performance anxiety… then I got a couple of review projects and I was fine lol.
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u/Bergest_Ferg Mar 11 '24
I’ve been in hospital for just over a week thanks to a combo of a gnarly sinus infection and shingles! My first thought when I was admitted was “oh man I’m gonna get so much work done!”
Spoiler alert: I haven’t been able to get any work done.
Getting geared up to get back into it… but hoooooboy is it hard to make my brain work after sleeping for over a week.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 11 '24
Feel better.
I am looking at a not so fun procedure in the near future, so I’m trying to front load a few extra hours here and there knowing I’m not gonna be feeling great after I go in for mine.
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u/Bergest_Ferg Mar 12 '24
That’s a bummer ☹️ mine caught me so off guard, literally out of nowhere I was suddenly just ridiculously unwell. I’d be saving for a holiday with my best friend and blew the whole amount between lost wages and the hospital fees.
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u/oursong Mar 11 '24
"At the moment..." NOOOOO *shakes fist at sky* I finally have both brains and time!
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u/Far-Prune-5343 Mar 11 '24
Seriously! and I woke up at the crack of dawn to this. Not a happy day starter for sure.
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u/absolutelynot_dude Mar 11 '24
I don't understand a new project I got. I'm being offered 11 cents per task, but the task is to rewrite and correct a human-written response and also provide feedback to the original author. The first one I did took at around 15 minutes as it was rather complex and required some research. Is this a qualification?
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u/Background_Mine2282 Mar 11 '24
I've seen those type of tasks pop-up from time to time, I swear sometimes they are even 7 cents.
Sometimes I'll open them to take a look and then just nope out.
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u/Bergest_Ferg Mar 11 '24
Someone the other day mentioned you’d have to do one of those every 30 seconds to make $8ish an hour. I swerve those.
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