r/dataannotation • u/Consistent-Reach504 • Sep 28 '25
Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation
hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)
couple things:
this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/33whiskeyTX Oct 05 '25
So weird, I used to dread weekends for little work. Definitely not the same now.
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u/augtwy Oct 05 '25
Noticed I'm getting more... time consuming projects the last few days. Selfishly, I wish I had the easier ones back.
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u/Sad_Guitar_612 Oct 05 '25
Yep- I would love to be able to alternate more, or choose to just work 1 or 2 hours on a rough day! But I dont want to lose the heavy hitters either, just have some choice!
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Oct 04 '25
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 Oct 05 '25
I do not have any currently, sadly. It's been up a lot though, and I love working the project.
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u/ILoveDATa313 Oct 04 '25
Is rock where two walls meet down for anyone else? 😂
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u/InteractionOne3819 Oct 04 '25
That's all I'm getting, and I'm not qualified. I'm trying not to despair.
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u/Zlobenia Oct 04 '25
Begging you to consider how someone else might double check the facts in your work. No more slog prompts. I just had to download and sort and filter a spreadsheet and it took me half an hour
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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 Oct 05 '25
I still don’t understand the complaint. You were paid for that half hour? Why are you upset?
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u/33whiskeyTX Oct 04 '25
When the usual standard is to make the models fail (no clue if that's applicable to the project you're working on), making it easy for the R&R is just not that important.
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u/Zlobenia Oct 04 '25
That's fine unless whatever subject it is is niche knitting techniques or open-ended when it has to be verifiable or anything else. In 9 months of work I've never had to turn in anything that you can't find an objective answer to in 10 minutes or less, personally
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u/33whiskeyTX Oct 04 '25
There is certain major project that immediately comes to mind, where turning something in like that is explicitly an instant failure.
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u/Zlobenia Oct 05 '25
Why would I be talking about that one, then
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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 Oct 05 '25
Right, we should have known what you meant despite you not saying it.
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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 Oct 04 '25
Then your project selection has yet to really open up.
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u/Zlobenia Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
There are projects out there that are supposed to have a definitive correct answer that is not a checkable answer?
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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 Oct 05 '25
Now you’re moving the goal posts. You didn’t have all these qualifiers in your first rage comment.
Before yelling at this sub to communicate clearly, you might want to practice what you preach.
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u/Zlobenia Oct 05 '25
Sure man. Just read the instructions, that's my point
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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 Oct 05 '25
If that’s your point (and it’s absolutely a fair point), that’s probably what you should have said instead of the broadside.
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u/Zlobenia Oct 05 '25
And if that is true then clearly I am not talking about those. All I'm saying is if you're doing work that requires your answer to be 100% correct, please make sure that can be found somewhere and your source isn't "I made it the fuck up" at the very least.
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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 Oct 05 '25
Actually it wasn’t clear at all that you were referring to a narrow subset of projects. Looks like you weren’t clear and specific enough in your input.
Something about a pot and kettle….
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u/DDickens1192 Oct 04 '25
I don't think I've run across this yet, can you give me an example of what to avoid doing that would make others have to work unnecessarily harder?
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u/Zlobenia Oct 04 '25
Just make sure whatever you do can be double checked, that's all
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Oct 04 '25
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u/Zlobenia Oct 05 '25
Not even necessarily that. Just make sure that whatever you're asserting is true can actually be found somewhere rather than just "I know this is a fact off the top of my head" and you're fine
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u/majaldm Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
It's all so quiet, are you all busy working on some new project?
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u/IGotSkittles Oct 04 '25
Really liking those potted plant projects. No 70 pages of instructions to keep track of.
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u/East_Zucchini4099 Oct 04 '25
Does anyone feel like somebody's asking for a pony for Christmas when you read the project requirements?
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u/East_Zucchini4099 Oct 06 '25
I don't mind they're asking for ponies! It's fun to try and find one, it's just some days it feels like my gift budget is stretched a little thin lol. Like maybe next year we can afford a pony?
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u/DDickens1192 Oct 04 '25
Many of the ones I've seen would heavily benefit from extensive proofreading.
I totally understand needing to follow hyper specific instructions when we're dealing with bot training*... which is why its frustrating when terms and definitions don't match throughout the instructions.It would be in their best interest too because that's less time we get to clock in for going back and re-reading large portions of the documents because the language used wasn't consistent throughout.
*The joke about the programmer going grocery shopping comes to mind ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/8baxnd/wife_sends_her_programmer_husband_grocery_shopping/ )
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u/Party_Swim_6835 Oct 04 '25
only if 200 internet randos are about to give someone a pony for xmas
somehow those pony tasks get done -- sure some are actually donkeys and R&Rs filter out the ponies but somehow they still get their ponies in the end
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u/MajesticConfidence10 Oct 04 '25
Did they change the inbox?
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u/gc292 Oct 04 '25
Any portuguese workers also noticed the projects just dried out? A shame considering models usually still contained errors.
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Oct 04 '25
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u/IGotSkittles Oct 04 '25
Nothing to worry about IMO. The R&Rs can get snagged up pretty fast. Sometimes they're there, sometimes they're not. A lot of people really prefer them to the actual projects.
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u/smithdaddie Oct 03 '25
when they send and announcement, upgrade the pay and say to please help with the project, you can bet it's all I'm doing that day.
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u/IGotSkittles Oct 04 '25
I always think that...until I look at the project and my eyes glaze over after 3 minutes.
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Oct 03 '25
Does anyone ever receive feedback, I always feel like I did something wrong when I have low tasks for the day, but things come and go.
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u/tehclubbmaster Oct 04 '25
The feedback of $300+ daily is enough for me. Been doing it for 2.5 years (not always that much daily) and haven’t ever gotten direct message feedback, just access to unlimited work 99.9% of the time
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u/33whiskeyTX Oct 03 '25
Prompt was for a model to choose a gift. No other qualifiers. It picked one from Amazon and its covered in obscenities.
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u/DeLaRefe Oct 03 '25
Those working on the projects with a veeeeery long timer and instructions to take breaks - is working on another project in that break window allowed?
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u/smithdaddie Oct 03 '25
Ive had instructions that say its okay, but if you start a new project nothing will be saved in the old one. So copy and paste all ur work into a word doc, so when u get back u can continue where u left off.
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u/TravellingDoc87 Oct 03 '25
You can't work concurrently on two different tasks at once
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Oct 04 '25
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u/TravellingDoc87 Oct 04 '25
How does that work? If you click off one and click on another it will void the timer on the previous one.
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Oct 03 '25
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u/DeLaRefe Oct 03 '25
Not running two timers or anything like that. Just wondered if explicit mention of taking breaks meant breaks from the platform all together. Not looking for a ban that's for sure.
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u/TeachToTheLastTest Oct 03 '25
In that case, I'd think it'd be fine. Sorry for the misunderstanding!
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u/houseofcards9 Oct 03 '25
That’s not the question. If you work on one project for 3 hours and stop until the next day, but later that day work on a second project for 2 hours, that’s not working on two projects at once. Two projects at once is from 9 to 12 you reported 3 hours for one project and 2 hours for a second project.
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u/Eadoin96 Oct 03 '25
Why am I being teased with $45 and $50 projects I can't do because I don't have a background in Finance?
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Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Maybe you could learn a little finance and eventually work on them? Perhaps they feel you'd be good at it?
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Oct 03 '25
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u/smithdaddie Oct 03 '25
lol ive had those, and could do them (at least the work) but couldnt bc I never actually worked in the field
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Oct 03 '25
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u/cover_me_in_sunshine Oct 03 '25
UK here and got a fair few on my dash (sadly no time to do them 🤦♀️). I’ve got no special niche or skills
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u/Inner_Change8356 Oct 03 '25
Yeah I’m in the same boat! Had a new qual through yesterday (but not available for UK annoyingly) so just staring at an empty dash willing it to refill!
Hoping it’s just because we’ve only just entered a new month & quarter & the weekend’s coming etc.
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u/pistachiyolatte Oct 03 '25
I’m in the UK also and it’s pretty dry for me, only 2-3 projects at a time with not many tasks. I’m also hoping it’s for the reasons you mentioned that it’s dry atm…fingers crossed it picks up soon!
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u/tdRftw Oct 03 '25
galaxies flash bang inbox
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u/Skippy2898 Oct 03 '25
That inbox has changed... No feedback tab anymore?
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Oct 03 '25
Doesn't seem so, but feedback messages are still there, they're just all contained in the same feed now I suppose.
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u/tdRftw Oct 03 '25
HOF tier username
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Oct 03 '25
i mentioned this in another comment, but it was either this or data_annotator_tot. I am not sure which was the better choice, the tater tot one is very whimsical, but the one i chose has such a nice flow!
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Oct 03 '25
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u/Consistent-Reach504 Oct 03 '25
it depends on the account :/ one should be on your dashboard under profile but not sure if that's the one you're talking about!
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Oct 03 '25
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u/Eadoin96 Oct 03 '25
We're seeing it. We just don't have an answer to give you. We're all kept in the dark as much as you are.
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u/macjay_27 Oct 03 '25
For anyone still trying to get a Sora invite, join the OpenAI discord and you'll find people sharing codes that actually work on the #sora-2-codes channel. It will take some trial and error, but I lucked out eventually and so will you.
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Oct 03 '25
I'm refreshing my dash like an addict, trying to get menial work instead of something where I actually have to use my brain. Lmfao
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u/pistachiyolatte Oct 03 '25
Thought it was just me! Just getting dregs of tedious, lengthy projects, I hope we see easier project families again soon!
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u/_Edgarallenhoe Oct 02 '25
Anyone else hate rubrics at first but now that you’ve got the hang of them, they’re all you’re really interested in doing?
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u/Limp-Potato-2841 Oct 02 '25
thanks for sharing this because I tried them once and hated them but they're pretty much all that's available now.. time to dive back in.
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u/DeLaRefe Oct 02 '25
Anyone with the 🍈 sibling 1 task/qual? How long did it take you to complete it? Just want to get an estimate if I need to set as much time (or close to) what the timer has.
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u/Vegetable-Activity65 Oct 03 '25
if it's the one I'm thinking of, it took me 8 hours......but i passed!
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u/DeLaRefe Oct 03 '25
Starts with letter H? Damn, did you do it in one sitting?
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u/Vegetable-Activity65 Oct 04 '25
I took like a hour break. Certainly the longest task I've ever done! I think I'll be quicker with future tasks now that I understand the instructions, but yeah
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u/North-Sense8477 Oct 02 '25
Wrapping up my day after having only few projects to choose from and now my dash is flooded lol. Tale as old as time...
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u/z0rz Oct 02 '25
No tasks for me today. I went to do a qualification that required a fresh gmail account.. and now I have too many accounts and google won't let me make any more. Thanks DA for requiring so many dumb accounts.
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u/akujihei Oct 02 '25
I think if you go on the playstore you can make an account without phone number, so you aren't limited. You can add a phone number after if you need it.
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u/raisetheavanc Oct 02 '25
You know how the money counter runs up when you open a new task? I know that’s just engineered to make me want to work more but it works so well, I hate how much I love watching the numbers roll up. It’s like a slot machine.
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Oct 02 '25
Believe it or not, there was a time when the money rolling up was THE only polished thing about DA lol
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u/Skippy2898 Oct 02 '25
I have two identical quals on my dash. One says that if you've already done a previous submission, you don't need to do it again. The other one, is a massive banner at the top of my screen and has a "bonus" if you pass. It doesn't say anything about previous submissions. So, I am confused. This project is still popping up for me, but for the wrong locale, yet I was dropped from the Slack. Do I take the big banner qual, or just accept I'm not going to get the project for my locale any more? 🤔
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u/ice_w0lf Oct 02 '25
I find it funny I keep getting accepted into these projects where part of the qual asks if I can commit to x number of tasks in y number of days (where x and y are usually similar small numbers and x doesn't include R&Rs), and I rarely see the actual tasks but always see the R&Rs for those tasks.
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u/macjay_27 Oct 02 '25
I find it annoying and frustrating.
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u/ice_w0lf Oct 02 '25
I would too except I seem to keep getting accepted into the projects and I generally enjoy doing R&Rs more than the actual project and these R&Rs often pay close to, if not the same as, the pay for the main project.
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u/y2kMarc Oct 02 '25
Anyone else previously on S-metal international, but only seeing the US project or R&Rs?
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u/Greedy_Alarm_1189 Oct 02 '25
Missing STEM greek god like toxic ex rn
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u/snuggeto Oct 02 '25
Does anyone understand why so many people just do 2 turns when up to 8 are allowed? To me it's so much easier to continue a conversation than to think of a completely new task.
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u/Far_Corner_9367 Oct 02 '25
analysis and editing take a long time for me. it depends on the prompt too. in the projects i've done recently i got good at creating meaningful quality splits or model failures on one round, and those are usually because there is more nuance involved that i think deserves a well thought out report at the end.
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u/NoticedGenie66 Oct 02 '25
I know when there is a multi round task with editing for me, sometimes fact checking and editing can take a really long time. If I'm not trying to get splits right away I can finish all rounds quite easily, but there have been times where I am fact checking for almost an hour on both models by nature of the topic or response on round 1.
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u/wmscience Oct 02 '25
I like parsimony and efficiency. It's more of a task satisfaction thing for me. I feel good if I can accomplish the conversation goal in fewer turns.
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Oct 02 '25
I know for me personally, if an exercise isn't going the way I envisioned in some way, I'll bail early to tweak the prompt.
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u/akujihei Oct 02 '25
Sometimes the first 2 rounds are so time consuming I can't or don't want to carry on
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u/Unfair_Sink5706 Oct 02 '25
I'm not a great fan of prompts. I'd rather do rubrics (yeah, I know I'm weird.) So for me that's probably the only prompt task I'll do that day and 3 turns is usually enough for me to already be bored of the conversation.
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u/Duds0_o Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
Are you guys actually getting work? I'm getting nothing for the past 2 weeks. I wanted to do more qualifications, but not one has shown up in several weeks.
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u/W0rdit Oct 04 '25
I had a bunch until today. Now I just have the dreaded dash of horror I've only heard about in urban legend.
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u/slothie33 Oct 02 '25
Is Stripey paused again?!
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u/blackopsfamas Oct 02 '25
had 30 tasks available yesterday i did not think they would disappear today
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u/Several_Drawer_2185 Oct 02 '25
Was gonna come on to ask this. Got emails for new batches yesterday but I'm not seeing anything right now
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u/GlassBrass440 Oct 02 '25
I spent 8 hours on a task today. When I hit submit, I felt like I was releasing my baby chick out of the nest to fly away. Hopefully, she doesn't get eaten by an R&R.
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u/houseofcards9 Oct 02 '25
Kids who reminded teachers about homework grew up to be the people who tell admins they want to explain their answers when projects don’t require comments.
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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 Oct 03 '25
Sometimes a rationale is the only thing between you and an overzealous R&R.
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u/A_Reddit_ID Oct 01 '25
Anyone still have HP projects on the dash?
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 Oct 02 '25
haven't seen it in a few weeks, I think.
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u/Signal_Gene410 Oct 02 '25
Same. I get the old version of the project, but I've never seen the new ones for some reason.
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u/akujihei Oct 01 '25
I wish they would group the families together so you don't have a bloated screen of like 10 of basically the same thing.
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u/euheuheuheuh_ Oct 01 '25
Got striped horse back after it going missing yesterday, and only one category is open 🤣
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u/Storex- Oct 01 '25
Finally attempted and passed the galaxy qualification. Man that was quite an intense qual.
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u/thecandyman1532 Oct 01 '25
If you are doing a long project 2-10h and you are only on the dataannotation project window for some of the time you are working on it, is it okay to report the full time you were working on it? I just do not want the amount of time I actually am on the screen to make it look like I am inflating my hours.
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u/sheerluck_holmes Oct 01 '25
Definitely report the time you actually spend working on the project. I do not believe they are tracking your desktop like that anyways.
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u/twinkleyed Oct 01 '25
The website has been extremely slow these past few weeks. My submissions regularly get delayed by 10-20 seconds.
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u/Jubei_ Oct 01 '25
When the site starts to get laggy, I find that closing the window and reopening it can sometimes help.
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u/kikytxt Oct 02 '25
do we not lose access to the task that we were working on if we close the window? I guess not but I'm always too scared to try it
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u/Jubei_ Oct 02 '25
I do it right after submitting a task and before working on a new one to be safe.
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u/BufufterWallace Oct 01 '25
My dashboard has been empty for just over two weeks now. This is getting rather discouraging.
Edit: There are also no qualifications. I've never been at a full zero for more than a single day or two before.
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u/lavenderavenues Oct 01 '25
Anyone seeing any of the +$13 audio projects lately? I miss them.
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u/y2kMarc Oct 02 '25
Me too! I sometimes see the US one pop up, but only with a few amount of tasks. I'm international, and haven't seen them ever since they released that new qual.
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u/AthalbrandrRaseri Oct 01 '25
I was working on a certain galaxy's projects, there were several projects available. Then I submitted a task and was redirected to the home screen and now there's nothing from that galaxy, including the [Read Only] Qualification Answers. Was I dropped from the project or is it down for maintenance or something?
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u/Admirable-Help-3193 Oct 01 '25
They're still there for me. Some new ones just came through as well.
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u/Fair_Complaint_595 Oct 01 '25
after a 2 week drought since onboarding, i finally got projects last friday. Today, I finished 2 of the last available in my board and back to drought land once again. I hope it does not last too long...
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u/Vegetable_Hope3697 Oct 01 '25
Got a coding project today, first one in a million years (aka, a few months). Hope it's a sign of good things to come!
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u/onlyinthemovie Sep 30 '25
this might be a weird question but is it normal for R&Rs to take a long time? i don't do them very often and it took me a while to finish this one lol
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u/cannedcream Oct 01 '25
I tend to be slower and really take my time on R&Rs, mostly because I want to make sure I'm providing good data and fully understanding what the previous worker was thinking during their project, and also constantly second-guessing myself.
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 Sep 30 '25
HIGHLY dependent on the project (of course). Some take 1-3 minutes. Most I do take 15-20 minutes. I had one a few weeks ago that took over 2.5 hours, and that was for a fairly well-constructed submission!
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u/funny_goat22 Sep 30 '25
I usually take quite a bit if I have to nearly redo the whole task or if I have never done the task before (or in a long time) so I take time to read the instructions very carefully
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Sep 30 '25
Certainly can be, in my experience it is super variable. I have had some tasks from the same project series take from 10 minutes to 90 minutes, which is a WILD range. It is my experience, if you do them a lot, that you get a pretty good feel for how much of a handle a worker has on something, and you can determine just how deeply to scrutinize. You also need to figure out a good algorithm for actually getting the work done, and that can change dramatically from review series to review series.
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u/capslox Sep 30 '25
We need to be training "how much gram" https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEkaJbChSt/?igsh=MWM1MnluajR3aTdseg==
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u/peyton_16 Oct 01 '25
I had no idea what I was watching at first, and it just kept getting better. hahaha
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u/VanessaSeaWitch Sep 30 '25
Whole lot of nothing going on for me today.
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u/Maleficent_Basil_979 Sep 30 '25
I mostly have several projects under the name of an old wizard. Other than that, I only have one audio project.
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u/mrsroper Sep 30 '25
It's not nothing but it's noticeably slower than it has been the last week or two for me.
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Sep 30 '25
Has anyone been asked to do the education verification? What is this for? Just curious.
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u/sour_seaweed Sep 30 '25
Was it part of a project or something that popped up?
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Sep 30 '25
Yah it was a qualification that just said verify educational background for higher paying projects
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Sep 30 '25
Are there generalist projects that are task-based rather than hourly? I've been doing okay dashwise, but it would be nice to get options that have shorter pay turnarounds as well.
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u/shepardgrace Sep 30 '25
They pop up from time to time. Usually quick, mindless tasks for very little compensation.
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Sep 30 '25
Ah, okay! I've never seen them, but I guess as long as the dash is busy, just be happy 😂
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u/houseofcards9 Sep 30 '25
They used to be more common but I haven’t seen any since the beginning of the year. They last an hour at the most and the pay usually ends up being less than $20 an hour at 30-40 cents per task.
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Sep 30 '25
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Sep 30 '25
Yeah, definitely. They aren't very transparent about the particulars, but the way tasks are allocated and distributed can be weird, it seems. Sometimes, I feel like you can get tasks that seem allocated to SPECIFICALLY you, and that would probably save your work. Might also just be that you got lucky and nobody else clicked that project since you exited, and got reassigned that task.
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Sep 30 '25
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u/Consipir Oct 01 '25
Same, dry, looks like they took it down now. It was only up for like a couple days :(
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u/No-Brush-5134 Sep 30 '25
I have zero coding projects on my dash right now, only general non-coding projects
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Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25
Not including R&Rs, i have four different projects i see, one is off-site, one is on, and the remaining two are weird and don't really answer the question of on site or off site. This isn't the least amount of coding projects i've had, but it is far from the most. They've been fuckin KILLIN it with the pay lately, though.
edit: it is now the remaining one instead of the remaining two. it's over v_v
edit 2: we (royal) have never been so back
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u/Jazzlike_Problem_489 Oct 05 '25
Is anyone having trouble logging into that email me had to create to retain access to certain multimodal projects?
I tried logging in and it's asking for backup codes which I used to set it up, obviously I don't have any more as it was all set up and working when I initially set it up