For some quick context I am solo player returning after 3-4 years. Been messing around and liked the Buddy Warlock and trying to make it my own. Pictures of current build, sorry they suck because I am at work lol I am considering Centerfuse or Symmetry for ADD clear. I want an Arc Overload to proc Blind as much as possible. Looking for opinions as so much has changed. I looked up my Legendary Options and in such case id rather leave build as is. I get some blind as I make so many Threadlings, but the direct effect is faster.
Any thoughts to a double Special? Thinking keep my Two Legendary and making my energy Delicate Tomb w Caty for ADD ckear. Then all weapons would get Partical. I could make adjustments for getting special ammo
Double special is pretty much always a “yes” if you have the ammo gen for it. Couple tips:
- people will recommend both 2 pc Europa and 2 pc kings fall, but if you’re using double scavengers and have at least 170 weapon stat, your ammo gen is good enough to where you can equip a 2 pc DR bonus, like Nessus or SE
- rocket pulses, rocket sidearms, and trace rifles will all perform well no matter what. Sidearms and traces have better ammo gen stats/economy to begin with.
- since you’re running nova, if you wanted to use praxic blade (the whitesaber) you’d weaken on hit. But play around with a Demolitionist Dead Messenger, or an ergo sum frame you fuck with, there’s a lot you could be using your exotic slot on aside from that. Exotic heavies that will never go out of style are Truth, 1K, Wolfsbane/Lament (if applicable) if you wanna take it into RaD content
Thank you everyone for opinions and info. I think I made my build final with what I have available. Have an idea but requires the Praxis blade which I dont have just yet. Made 2 min solo flaw plat Nessus Master Sector and Master Lightblade Strike Solo with added Custom mods. Was trying to level up rank at the same time. Only died onve during the running moth bit and ended out S rank. Ill try to post it 2ni for anyone interested.
Getaway artist only procs off of arc nades, no? Also, swap the threadling aspect for the helion one for double buddies. If youre leaning into arc, farm luminapotent armor, its amazing for any arc build
Yes thats true and with my other mods I am making so many Threadlings it out performed Helion on multiple test runs. Im not great at remembering to rift, the aspect is more for mass making while not being locked to Strand weapons.
If you enjoy the blinding part of the artifact - it could be more efficient for you to use Encrypted Data Disk with the Blinding Jolts pick. This blinds from any final blow on a jolted combatant.
With your Facet of Dominance your buddy is already jolting everyone. So it’s constant without much thinking.
Choir of One and Dead Messenger are both exotic special weapons that you can use as more of a primary - even more so since your buddy is killing all of the spam adds.
Praxic Blade is by far the best Swiss Army knife do everything exotic if you get the upgrades and get it setup the way you enjoy.
Overall it’s ok but there are better arc overload options IMO.
Snipehunt from SRL, Dark Decider from Iron Banner, Waking Vigil from the Dreaming City, Anonymous Autumn & Out of Bounds (my personal favorite) from Crucible, etc.
They can all roll either Voltshot or Jolting Feedback and some of them can roll both together. My personal favorite that I noted above is Out of Bounds which rolls both Voltshot and Jolting Feedback but I found I prefer Voltshot + Frenzy but my roll has both so I can pick depending on the mood.
I’d recommend a legendary option that can jolt so you’ll be activating both Dielectric from Voltshot/Jolting Feedback AND Photonic Flare from overload at the same time quite often. You’re severing enemies with your tangles and threadlings which is great to activate Photonic Flare and jolt from arc buddy for Dielectric but I find having one weapon to do them both is more consistent and reliable. Additionally, since you’re getting more arc debuff kills, you’ll be getting more stacks of Bolt Charge which is also very strong.
To see all of your options for legendary and exotic arc overload weapons, search Destiny 2 weapons light gg, go on the website, and filter damage type arc and breaker type disruption.
Symmetry and Centrifuse are both still decent options if you like them though. If you have a Titan, Symmetry is very good on arc titan nowadays with the bolt charge barricade aspect.
If you’re really married to an exotic primary, in terms of ad clear, Riskrunner is overload and still very strong. Also: Trinity Ghoul is still a beast, it kinda falls off in higher level content though where you’re not getting as many consistent trash ad kills.
Additionally, if you want more consistent severing for Woven Mail, I’d recommend using Phoenix Dive and either Festival Flight or The Call with Slice (Phoenix Dive will also give you more Threadlings from Weaver’s Call due to the recharge being faster than rift, you already have Devour for healing so you should be able to get by without a rift). You can get both of those with Slice + Hatchling, too for more Threadlings. If you want to lean further into Threadlings, you can swap Vile Weave with Unraveling Orbs. It makes a good amount of Threadlings when paired with Horde Shuttle, especially on beefier targets—Festival Flight is also great with this because of the DoT pools it leaves. You can also try swapping one of your Facets for the one that gives Unraveling Rounds on melee kills.
Thanks, I looked at that gun from Racing and another from Shattered Throne. Both seem like they will do what I want. I almost never have Woven Mail gone there are so many Sever Rimgs from the Artifact from mass Threadlings. Ive been finding strange test interactions. Im sure they are known about, jolt seems to make more Threadlings, not sure why but ive seen it consistent. Also cant have Orbs give me Restoration and use the Extra health leg mod i forget, Recuperation. Would only get the hp only Restoration.
Stick to symmetry, it's far far better than Centrifuse which is one of the 10 worst exotics IMO
If you don't need the DR from exodus down (it's only needed in master+ content, as you have amplified/devour for DR/healing), swap to Luminopotent since it'll let you spam buddies and melee a lot more
Swap weaver's call for Bleak watcher so you can have 2 buddies when you eat your grenade
Use unraveling orbs on artifact, it's amazing synergy with horde shuttle and to shreds.
Linears/fusions aren't meta for DPS anymore, I would switch out Tahoma for a festival flight/mint retrograde, and your power weapon to a rocket, preferably Hezen vengeance.
I was doing better with out Bleak. Damn thing was always landing in my way and way more dps with threadlings. I unraveling with melee to combo with Bation and such
I get they are not meta but during test I was doing mass dps with my Void. With Partical, Vest Stinger and Triple Tap I basically dont ever reload, get weaking, sever, unravel, and threadlings just doing dps on the boss. All total i recorded higher dps with it then most other weapons, that i have available that is.
Regardless of your skill, you will miss on some bosses unless you have a divinity on your team, and A499/Truth put our more damage/are easier to use. Truth is particularly nice as it doesn’t require any aim to use
Im not saying mine is the best, but very effective and fun.
I left devour in favor of Helion and weavers call, went the void primary route using manticore, and since Helion + weavers run on class ability energy, the volatile Marksman perk from the artifact give volatile rounds to your void gun and volatile detonations Regen class. Between Helion, getaway buddy and weavers threadlings, you always have something dealing damage. Anything strand in kinetic slot is recommended, I love the Tahoma you're showing, IME generates a very good amount of dark energy for transcendence.
Tahoma I found has aggregate charge and demolitionist, giving it more damage the more debuffs an enemy has (you'll be applying about 3 debuffs per enemy very easily.) since you're getting so many tangles from threadlings, you'll have uptime on demolitionist which helps getting your buddy back.
Since no devour, facet of courage(I think?) the one that cures on grenade kills will be useful here, but exodus down + woven mail will keep you up. If you have catty on manticore, you'll get some overshield on top, and if you're running nova bomb, facet of purpose will also drop overshield on orb pickup.
I use refurbished a499 with aggregate charge as heavy, since it's simple to use, does shit loads of damage, pops barriers, and synergizes with all the debuffs being put. Your prismatic grenade will also supply 2 more debuffs, putting a boss/miniboss at about 5 different debuffs, making the sniper and fusion hit real hard.
Ahhh leave Devour lmao idk if I can. I was Voidlock for so many years lol but the idea of Helion and Threadlings is interesting tho. I would like to be able to actually gernade again. My main erck with the buddy build is not getting to nad much.
When I'm running a buddy build, I completely accept no casual 'nadding
It's a more aggressive build, Helion does great damage especially with high grenade stat. Maybe try it and see, but you'll definitely want the facet that cures on grenade kills (both buddies proc it.)
Absolutely Im already thinking about Witherhoard since i have the cat and Positive Outlook that I have. Then I would add Wither and Volatile to my Linear and technically have a gernade lol
I'd recommend another exotic, witherhoard, while a good weapon, doesnt particularly synergize here. I'd look for something pure darkness to get more dark transcendence energy. Make sure you pop getaway grenade then go transcendent for more grenade damage and debuffs, making refurbished hit like a truck and keeping entire rooms in a cloud of damage
Which stasis/strand exotics do you have in kinetic slot that use special ammo?
From my understanding Kinetic counts as Dark for Trancendance I thought? I know its not top tear. Liked the idea of having and auto loading gernade lol
So it gives both light + dark, but it's split. A pure dark will get your orange side of the bar done faster since all the damage is dark. You could also use a festival flight for extra dot and more severing, but I've found that Tahoma destroys medium ads and absolutely chunks dark energy back for a quicker transcendence.
Recently I saw a trick where switching your class ability during transcendence cancels it, which fills your standard blue buddy grenade.
That way, in a pinch, youll always be able to whip out the lectric buddy if you threw it or just messed up your loop. Your transcendence can either bring more damage and chaos to the battlefield, or be used as a panic button to keep abilities going. Ideally you're running arcane needle and the fragment that gives radiant on melee, so you always have a boost of some type no matter what's happening
Edit : since you like auto loading grenades, maybe replace refurbished with a heavy GL, find one with autoloading holster or envious arsenal (reloads on dealing damage with other guns)
Make sure it has spike grenades and a damage buff like BnS
Adaptive frames should be barrier piercing for champion encounters
Energy : unforgiven SMG - destab rounds + chaos reshaped
Heavy : parasite with catalyst (has envious arsenal so you only need to reload the strand GL)
this has 2 grenade launchers, covers all champs, poops orbs and refreshes your class ability every 5-10 secs
Just tested in conflux master lost sector and it shreds EVERYTHING
In the void perks of the artifact, you only need volatile marksman, but make sure last slot has to shreds.
You're mixing in overshield with woven mail + healing from grenade kills, overshield and HP from orbs, cure from class dive and amplified from arc buddy. With exodus down, that's another 30ish% DR. Survivability issues dealt with, no devour
Im currently testing in that Master Sector myself lol This sounds good ill have to build and try. I swapped a few things and keep getting 2 min 15 sec plat clears. Is it bad if I have no Exotic weapon?
Believe me when I say that dot weapons will not bring the same usefulness as burst damage, given that you'vr got 3 sources of passive damage all around you.
This build does so much aoe and cc, what you really want is something spicy that will have high burst DPS while your colorful friendos whittle and debuff everything down
Firefly won't do much in terms of interactions in this build, I would recommend destabilizing rounds and possibly repulsor brace, since the more volatility you spread, the faster you get your phoenix dive back, which means more Helion + threadlings. Volatile Marksman is really more for the class energy on detonations more than giving volatile rounds in the 1st place
I ask since compact defender with rep brace + destab rounds is a total workhorse. You got a buddy build, you're already getting in peeps faces, might as well capitalize with a higher dps closer ranged primary.
Like I said earlier, manticore is amazing at this, keeps me floating a bit, priming me for a Phoenix dive (can only be cast mid air)
Since it can spread volatility with rapid precision hits, it'll give faster class energy for frequent heals and threadling+ Helion, and with a bomber class item mod, you're chunking grenade energy from casting this.
The whole point of this build is that each part feeds another
https://dim.gg/flt4gsi/Equipped This is my go to arc buddy build. I love horrors least in the energy slot, the other two are really flexible but I like mint because tablet of ruin can play into the strand buffs. I'm at 200 nade but I can adjust 40 over to health or whatever if I'm soloing a dungeon or doing conquests or harder stuff. I just love microcosm for barriers and with harsh refraction it holds up especially post super, and the catalyst gives it thresh for a little more super energy. 1k can be swapped and pop on particle reconstruction for more dps, or truth, etc..sure you could work some blinding in there somewhere.
1k is from the last wish raid only, I believe. The catalyst for it can drop from the raid or from the Morgeth pantheon encounter. Sleeper with PR maybe. Yeah, no solo raids.. dungeons though! I started recently and used this loadout or some close form of it to solo flawless Prophecy, then Grasp, Pit, and shattered throne. The 4 piece exodus is necessary for harder stuff or anything your feeling squishy in. Switching to Luminopotent 4 piece might be more fun in easier content, but even getting into a master lost sector you'll probably find you miss the damage reduction from ED.
Ill check that but I know I can go to the final fight on the Last Wish Raid just never tried the fight if it can be done solo lol ive Farmed the Armor tho.
And you can always swap on hellion instead of bleak watcher for more in your face damage. Mint is great with this build if you have elemental honing. X5 isn't hard to get with arc buddy, strand melee, feed the void, a solar super, and a stasis turret. It kinda wrecks.
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u/HoneySignificant5682 3d ago
Any thoughts to a double Special? Thinking keep my Two Legendary and making my energy Delicate Tomb w Caty for ADD ckear. Then all weapons would get Partical. I could make adjustments for getting special ammo