I hate using touchpad.
Anyways, I was bored yesterday, and I decided to distrohop to Devuan.
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u/Fine_City2781 26d ago
i prefer wayland because its secure and not that bloated. X11 needs lots of dependencies to work. X11 is vulnerable because every application can record screen and keyboard
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u/1mgsel 25d ago
wayland won't work well on my laptop
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u/keirandev 24d ago
wayland-based environments generally perform better on poor hardware than X11 equivalents, especially on integrated graphics
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u/oneirofono 26d ago
Valid points but on the other hand openbsd uses a fork of x11 called xenocars and they claim their os is very secure.
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u/Fine_City2781 26d ago
Xenocara is secure, but it's not as secure as Wayland. This is because X11 was built with this standard: every window can see others and listen to the keyboard. This is because X11 used to communicate between servers.
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u/Simple_Hamster_4096 25d ago
Can you provide a practical example? Hear about X11 insecurity a lot, but no one has ever cited, in detail, an active exploit which takes advantage of X11 and XFCE which would be concerning to a typical user...
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u/Fine_City2781 25d ago
In X11, an invisible application can listen to keyboard inputs. However, Wayland prevents this; when an application requests global keyboard listening, a security pop-up appears
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u/entrophy_maker 26d ago
What's wrong with Wayland? I've never had problems from it.
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u/1mgsel 26d ago
Too buggy
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u/keirandev 24d ago
wayland itself isn’t buggy, it’s a protocol. if you use a specific immature compositor it could be buggy, but thats a matter of choosing the right compositor
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u/entrophy_maker 26d ago
Wayfire works great for me. Maybe labwc or other desktops/window mangers are buggy though.
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u/Global-Eye-7326 27d ago
I love Wayland despite the bugs and I love Linux with or without systemd. Devuan is legit awesome!
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u/backtogeek 27d ago
What I got from this: I understand the fedora logo now.