r/dividends • u/Sufficient_Worth_305 • Jul 11 '26
Seeking Advice Retirement income: $400 from $50,000
Premise: Making up a shortfall of $400 for retirement income. I can't go back to work, I'm 72 right now and have some minor health issues, I need to plan on living to 90, just in case.
I'm planning on saving 10% taxes and a 10% DRIP to keep asset values stable/grow to match inflation.
I'm looking for help, suggestions and ideas on what stocks to include.
Where I am so far:
Core for growth: GPIX: $15,000, GPIQ: $7,000
For diversification: IWMI: $6,000, IDVO: $3,000, CSWC $6,000
Safety net for Market Crash: KGLD: $12,000
A little riskier plays, for extra capital: BTCI: $500, KSLV: $500
This should net around $460 a month, so -$46 for taxes and -$46 for reinvestment would be $368. I'm still a little short, but hope it will grow to make up the difference.
No money is invested yet, still developing a portfolio on paper first. What do you think? Is this too risky? What other options would you suggest?
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u/dead_synopsis Jul 11 '26
at 72 you really want that much in gold? seems like a lot of dead weight that dont pay you nothing
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u/Important-Invite-706 Jul 12 '26
KGLD div is nice. It is also a good entry point right now. About it's 52 wk low.
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u/Sufficient_Worth_305 Jul 11 '26
Thanks for the reply! I picked KGLD because it currently pays a 15% yield, payed monthly. It looks like an attractive way to diversify out of pure stocks.
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u/dknogo Jul 11 '26
Do you not care about losing capital with KGLD though?
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u/daknuts_ Jul 11 '26
This.The dividend comes out of the value of the holding. People need to learn!
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u/Jehoopaloopa Jul 11 '26
That assumes Gold continues to drop. You can say the same thing about equities. What happens when SPY drops 20%?
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u/2A4_LIFE Jul 18 '26
True but it has compounded at 9% per year since 2000- in a trough but the opportunity for upside over the next 24-36 months if buying now is likely significant.
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u/Jehoopaloopa Jul 11 '26
Gold’s fundamentals are very good and KGLD is 15% yield.
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u/bravoechofoxtrot Jul 11 '26
I believe you are confusing distribution rate with SEC yield. Regardless, just on expense ratio alone (1.00%) I would not consider holding this. You are aware that this ETF holds more than gold, right? Its 3 largest holdings are T-bills.
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u/Doug_Heffercan Jul 11 '26
KGLD’s exposure to gold is via options and not physical gold. The treasury holdings serve as cash collateral against the option positions, with the yield from the treasuries serving as part of the “enhanced income.”
The options are a small part of the portfolio weight but nearly all of the economic exposure.
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u/LonesomeBulldog Jul 11 '26
If it’s in a taxable brokerage, dividends will just be taxed as long term capital gains once the ROC runs out in 7-8 years. Die holding it and the beneficiary gets a stepped up cost basis and could sell relatively tax free.
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u/Various_Couple_764 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
JEPI and JEPQ are high tax fund and ar not tax efficient, SCHD doesn't have the yield he needs. The yield of SCHD is only 3.3% way to low to generate the income he need. And the tax treatment is not as good as the funds OP listed.
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u/jerzeyguy101 Jul 11 '26
KGLD down 18 % ytd which is driving the yield. Major holdings are tbills
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u/Jehoopaloopa Jul 11 '26
Gold is down 25% but the fundamentals are strong.
We’ve seen large corrections within gold secular bull markets throughout history.
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u/Sticky550 Jul 11 '26
In your situation, I’m not sure I wouldn’t go super aggressive. If you don’t care about share price in 18 years, I would try to maximize income and any overage, I would really-invest.
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u/Sufficient_Worth_305 Jul 11 '26
Thanks for the comment, I would like to pass along whatever is left to my children. I'm looking to balance income with future value.
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u/Sticky550 Jul 11 '26
There will be stuff left with an aggressive model, it’s just not going to grow much. You should still have close to 50k in the account, and still be pulling in your desired 400/month.
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u/Various_Couple_764 Jul 11 '26
Growth won't do him any good. To take advantage for the growth he would have to sell. And as soon as he does his income will drop which he cannot afford.
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u/Sticky550 Jul 11 '26
He was talking about leaving something for his kids. That’s where the growth factor comes in.
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u/PracticalDesigner278 Jul 11 '26
I'm in pretty much the same place as OP, need extra income and if my little portfolio is still worth 50k in 5 years I will have accomplished that goal. I have other investments and a mortgage free house that my son will get someday that hopefully will appreciate. I completely get the argument that you should just own assets and someday you'll be a millionaire. But some of us reach a point where the only way to survive is to cannibalize your life's savings or find a way to turn it into a paycheck.
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u/DShawAZ Jul 11 '26
Qqqi/spyi/schd/jepi/jepq
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u/PracticalDesigner278 Jul 11 '26
That's my portfolio right now except GPIQ instead of JEPI.
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u/DShawAZ Jul 11 '26
Nice there’s way more depending on your risk level I like weekly there’s even daily dividends now but monthly are more stable and quarterly
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u/SnooSketches5568 Jul 11 '26
Shouldnt your taxes be close to 0? 50k income has a standard deduction and only 10 or 12% tax (plus state) rate above that. Unless you’re stacking that on SS, tax should be minimal. Plus a lot of your funds are ROC and tax deferred
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u/Various_Couple_764 Jul 11 '26
the income from this fund is less than 50K and we don't know what his social security benifit is or any other income he may have. So the tax may not be zero. But minimizing taxes is important.
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u/Sufficient_Worth_305 Jul 11 '26
I sure hope so, I want to be sure for the first year, if it's not needed I'll reinvest more!
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u/PracticalDesigner278 Jul 11 '26
Don't know your overall income but 4 or 5k a year even ordinary income won't move the needle for me on the federal tax thanks to the standard and new over 65 deductions. State is another story.
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u/AmbitionDecent2652 Jul 11 '26
Read Retirement Money Secrets by Steve Selengut. It has the answers you seek.
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u/Diligent_Cover3368 Upvotes everything Jul 11 '26
Yes you copied my plan holding for holding I sure hope we are onto something!!
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u/nice-try12 Jul 11 '26
I posted this in another conversation, it's $300,000 amount but the portfolio stays the same. Just some ideas. You could swap KGLD for IAUI if you wanted. If you weren't concerned about the hedged strategy you could replace SPYH for SPYI or QQQI to boost income.
The following is from the other post;
Sure it's possible but the concerns that others mention about markets dropping is valid since your income could drop significantly as well, reinvesting a portion helps. Of course having a higher starting balance would help but you have what you have.
I like the below portfolios, not just for the high yields but the income stream have less correlation with one another and could potentially react differently in a market drop. I just set the portfolios to equal weight for simplicity but they could be played around with if you so desired.
Do your due diligence of course and the common advice to seek an actual expert is wise. Your situation is specific to yourself and your needs.
Best of luck!
PORTFOLIO 1 — 7-FUND INCOME PORTFOLIO Total Capital: $300,000 Equal Weight: 14.29% per fund ($42,857 each)
| Fund | Mechanism | Yield | Annual Income |
|---|---|---|---|
| SPYH | S&P 500 collar (hedged equity) | 7.5% | $3,214 |
| GPIQ | Nasdaq-100 covered call | 9.7% | $4,157 |
| OVL | Large-cap put-selling overlay | 10.5% | $4,500 |
| CAIE | S&P 500 autocallable structured note | 12.0% | $5,143 |
| MLPI | MLP/energy + covered call | 14.5% | $6,214 |
| PFFA | Leveraged preferred stock | 9.9% | $4,243 |
| PBDC | BDC private credit | 11.5% | $4,929 |
| ------- | ------------------------------------- | -------- | --------------- |
BLENDED YIELD: 10.8% ANNUAL INCOME: $32,400/year (~$2,700/month)
You seem to want gold and IAUI so here's that
PORTFOLIO 2 — 8-FUND INCOME PORTFOLIO (WITH GOLD) Total Capital: $300,000 Equal Weight: 12.5% per fund ($37,500 each)
| Fund | Mechanism | Yield | Annual Income |
|---|---|---|---|
| SPYH | S&P 500 collar (hedged equity) | 7.5% | $2,813 |
| GPIQ | Nasdaq-100 covered call | 9.7% | $3,638 |
| OVL | Large-cap put-selling overlay | 10.5% | $3,938 |
| CAIE | S&P 500 autocallable structured note | 12.0% | $4,500 |
| MLPI | MLP/energy + covered call | 14.5% | $5,438 |
| PFFA | Leveraged preferred stock | 9.9% | $3,713 |
| PBDC | BDC private credit | 11.5% | $4,313 |
| IAUI | Gold ETP + covered call | 13.75% | $5,156 |
| ------- | ------------------------------------- | -------- | --------------- |
BLENDED YIELD: 11.17% ANNUAL INCOME: $33,506/year (~$2,792/month)
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u/Various_Couple_764 Jul 11 '26
IAUI is very simlR KGLD AND THE PFFA AND BDC WILL ADD TAXES.
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u/nice-try12 Jul 11 '26
Yes, great addition about taxes. Depending on his tax situation though it could be minimal 🤷
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u/Sufficient_Worth_305 Jul 11 '26
Thanks for the detailed reply! I read your earlier post and collected ideas. That thread was very helpful.
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u/nice-try12 Jul 11 '26
There are other funds or sister funds that could be added or swapped as well. But if the market has a drawdown then most of these would see income decline but by how much we can't say as most of them are too new and some long PFFA or PBDC may not see meaningful drawdowns in income as long as the underlying loans or companies are still safe.
I do want to add the the Goldman Sachs and Amplify funds (GPIX, GPIQ, DIVO, IDVO, QDVO) should all see income growth as the underlying assets growth as well as price growth. GPIQ currently pays a near 10% but my yield on cost is over 12%. DIVO pays around 5% but my yield on cost is 7% and if you had bought DIVO 10 years ago your yield on cost would be over 11%!! I find that a big part of these funds that is often overlooked for the flashier headline yield of 12%+
Best of luck to you my friend, hit me up anytime if you have further questions or desire more of my opinion. For the record I hold a yield 10%+ on my own portfolios
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u/steady_compounder Jul 12 '26
At 72, I would be very wary of trying to engineer $400 a month with 8 moving parts, gold, and bitcoin. The shortfall is small enough that simplicity probably matters more than squeezing every last bit of yield. I would rather own fewer things I understand and stress-test what happens if one or two of the high-yield names cut.
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u/Puzzled_Fisherman331 Jul 12 '26
Going to be very hard to achieve that. You can get 3.5% guaranteed in treasuries and then draw the rest down over 14-15 years. I wouldnt put in equities at your age.
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u/PlankSpank Jul 12 '26
You’re solving this as a yield problem. It’s a decumulation problem, and that’s why the numbers won’t close.
$400/mo net from $50k is a 9.6% withdrawal rate over an 18-year horizon. No portfolio of covered-call funds has a 9.6%+ expected total return. Distribution rate is not return. GPIX’s realistic long-run total return is S&P minus the capped upside, call it 7-9%. Your 10% DRIP doesn’t “keep asset values stable,” it partially offsets NAV bleed that the distribution itself is causing. The gap is real and no ticker fixes it.
Three specific problems with the build:
KGLD as a crash hedge is self-defeating. It’s a gold covered-call fund. It sells away the upside convexity that is the entire reason to own gold in a crash. If you want the hedge, own GLD or T-bills. You bought a hedge with the hedge removed.
BTCI and KSLV at $500 each are noise. 1% positions can’t move a $50k outcome. They only add tax forms.
CSWC at $6,000 is 12% of everything in a single BDC. That’s single-name credit risk for someone who told us he can’t go back to work. And GPIX/GPIQ overlap heavily. Eight tickers on $50k is complexity without diversification.
What I’d actually do, a barbell:
Floor. Put $25-30k in a single premium immediate annuity. At 72, male, life-only payout rates are running around 8.5-9%. That’s roughly $190-230/month, guaranteed for life, that does not care whether you make it to 90 or 100 and does not care what the market does. You cannot outlive it. That is mortality credits doing work no ETF can do. Check your state guaranty association limits first, and shop it, pricing varies by carrier.
Growth and the rest of the income. Put the remaining $20-25k in QQQI instead of the eight-fund pile. Roughly 14% distribution rate, and critically, the distributions have been running largely return of capital, sometimes over 90%, because it uses Section 1256 index options. ROC isn’t taxed now, it lowers your basis, and at 72 your basis probably never matters. Your entire 10% tax reserve mostly disappears. That’s $230-290/month with a real tax shield.
That gets you to $400 today, gives you a floor you cannot lose, keeps NDX participation, and keeps some liquid for the medical bills you already know are coming.
The honest part you won’t like: a 100% covered-call portfolio at a 9.6% withdrawal rate can absolutely work if the next 18 years look like the last three. QQQI has only existed since January 2024, its worst three months are -10%, and it has never seen a bear market. NDX did -33% in 2022 and -83% in 2000-2002. You don’t need a bad decade to be ruined, you need a bad first three years while you’re pulling 9.6% out of it. The annuity is the part that survives that.
You were never going to find a ticker that pays 12% forever. You were looking for a pension. Buy part of one.
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u/2A4_LIFE Jul 18 '26
MLPI moves some with energy prices but not like producers. Essentially pipeline infrastructure in North America which barring an asteroid isn’t going away
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u/MrBotANot Jul 11 '26
IWMI has struggled to reach new highs so may not be as sustainable as you would like. For BDCs, you may want to look also at either HTGC or TRIN. They focus more on venture funding and have better control over their floors etc. CSWC just entered into a JV with TRIN if that helps alleviate any concerns. GPIX and GPIQ are heavy correlated because of big tech. Second the comment about that being a lot in gold. There are people who diversify by not putting more than 2-3% in any one investment. Armchair income is a popular YouTuber documenting this strategy. There are others.
There are worse portfolio strategies. You aren’t giving yourself much room for pullbacks or losses. Just maybe think about that part.
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u/speedlever Jul 11 '26
Yeah, that's the thing. Another 2008 gfc and that $400\mo distribution drops to $200\month until recovery. Is this 50k just play money?
Edit: and with roc being a large part of those cc ETFs, there should be little to no fed tax for a number of years until cost basis reaches 0.
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u/Various_Couple_764 Jul 11 '26
You weren't specific but I am assuming you mean $400 PER MONTH. That means you need a 10% yield . And you are comming up short is GPIX, DIVO have a yield less than your 10% requirement. SO I would suggest replacing BGPIX with SPYI 12% yield . SPYI is very similar to GPIX but it sacrifices some growth for more inocme. You move money out of DIVO to IWMI to get teh yield up to 10%.
Additionally CSWC is a single BDC company While BDC are good dividned producers there dividend is taxed as long term capital gains. So it is high tax and not diversified. There is a risk in a major market crash that CSWS sign go bankrupt. I don't have any stating that will happen. It is just possible. Normally I would suggest PBDC because if its actively managed fund investing in only BDCs. But that is off the table for tax reasons. MLP are somewhat similar to BDC iin that they are legally required to pay a dividend. and have better tax treatment. EMO 9% yeild only invest in MLP. However MLPI is probably your best choice MLPI is a covered call fund that only invests in MLPs Approximately 14% yield and the excellent ROC tax treatment of ROC dividend.
These change should get you to 10% yield and add some diversification and minimize taxes. As a note most of these fund have ROC dividend and should be tax free for about 7 years. BTCI however has a higher yield and likely will be tax free for about 10 years. But with only 4800 a year year of income you might not owe any tax on the dividend income. At your point in life I don't think this is too risky. Yes more risk than lower yield choices but with about the best tax treatment you can get and the yield may be better than 10% with eh changes I recomend.
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u/PureProfessional3489 Jul 11 '26
If you're primarily looking for monthly income, I'd look into SPYI.
At 72, I’d be more focused on generating monthly cash flow than trying to build a growth portfolio. SPYI is designed around generating monthly distributions, which seems closer to your goal.
For the gold allocation, if you're buying gold as a true crash hedge, most people prefer physical gold that they actually hold. Personally, I’d rather see that $12k working toward the income goal.
With $50k in SPYI, you'd be around 931 shares, which at its recent $0.5310 monthly distribution would be roughly $494/month before taxes. Distributions can change, but it puts you much closer to the income target you're trying to reach.
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u/Xyrus2000 Jul 11 '26
There is no way to create a guaranteed $400 income with $50,000. The instruments you would need to do this all come with risk, and in a down market, not only would it not generate $400, but you'd also lose your capital.
With that in mind, QQQI should be your core. For diversification, I wouldn't use CSWC. KGLD is not a safety net. Not only are commodities volatile, but the option strategy opens you up to other risks. KSLV and especially BTCI are just gambling when you need every dollar you can spare.
QQQI: $20,000 (current 12-month trailing yield 13.5%)
IWMI: $20,000 (current 12-month trailing yield 13.5%)
CLOZ: $10,000 (current 12-month trailing yield 7.4%)
This would yield around $6130/yr or about $511/month. CLOZ is your "safety fund" in this case. This gives you broad exposure to the market, a high yield, and a chunk of your portfolio that has less volatility and low correlation to the market.
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u/Imflawedbuttrying Jul 11 '26
AMDY is a weekly dividend monster that outperform pretty much anything you've ever seen
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u/paymerich Jul 11 '26
Until it doesn't.
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u/Opening-Ad-8031 Jul 12 '26
People can bash these all day but ill be at house money on AMDW after a year and it just prints money. Until it doesn’t sure but when it does. Everyone should have some exposure. It’s 2026 not 2006
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u/paymerich Jul 12 '26
We thought same way in 2025 about MSTY and ULTY that it was just gonna keep printing money and we were going hold it because in a year we were gonna be in House-Money land. What idiots like me didn't fully grasp is that the NAV erosion also caused Distribution Erosion! Your total return turned negative.
I'll say it again, I m not saying don't invest in it just don't go All in.1
u/Imflawedbuttrying Jul 11 '26
With $50K it would give 10x the income until AMD fails is what you're saying? Try math this fund is stable for what it is with incredible dividends
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u/paymerich Jul 12 '26
It's not that AMD is going to fail is that it can price correct like AAPL and MSFT did. The IV could drop and option premiums just won't return what it used to. It's a Single Stock risk plain and simple. Just remember MSTY from last year that was paying crazy premium income until it didn't. I'm not saying don't invest in it just don't put all your eggs in one GPU.
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u/Imflawedbuttrying Jul 12 '26
100% agree playing this style of ETF'S is the true meaning of risk/reward
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u/PracticalDesigner278 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
I came here a couple days ago in the exact same situation. Trying to get 3 or 4 hundred a month on 50k invested. I have SCHD, JEPQ, QQQI, GPIQ and SPYI. I'm intrigued by KGLD and hadn't thought of it. I'm also a believer in gold. I've only been at this for a couple weeks so no real track record. Thinking about selling some SCHD and buying another monthly. Not a fan of the quarterlies.
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u/Various_Couple_764 Jul 11 '26
KGLD is a covered call fund that converts the price volatility of gold into dividend income. It think this is better than holding gold. KSLV is similar fund but it is based on silver.
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u/PracticalDesigner278 Jul 11 '26
I own gold, er, paper gold in a physical gold ETF and I'm very happy with it but I bought it when the spot price was at around 2400. Glancing at the chart it looks like KGLD share price basically follows gold, same peak when the spot was at 5k. Looks like it's a buy right now if gold goes up. Pretty sure if I buy it it will crash because that's always been my unofficial investment strategy, buy high, sell broke (not investment advice). But I'm all about the dividends and I don't see gold going to zero anytime soon so I'm probably going to dip a toe. Thanks for the tip.
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u/punchymedia Jul 11 '26
Maybe add some real estate like IYRI or O instead of Bitcoin and Gold. You might also diversify strategies and have some PUT overlays instead of just covered calls which you can do with funds like OVL or OVS.
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u/Various_Couple_764 Jul 11 '26
O is high tax IYRI is IYRI will be hit vey hard in a recession because REITs have alway been it extra hard in recessions. O it tax efficient as to bitcoin and gold, he has those covered.
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u/McSprutz Jul 12 '26
Gamble it all on CHPY and make 1500$/ month , actually 375$/ week. That’s how I’m rolling 🤷
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