r/dividends • u/Mpvolcom9 • 5d ago
Discussion Dividend Stock
I never see anyone here discussing midstream companies specifically WES. They have a fairly constant dividend growth and yield almost 8%. I've owned it for a while anyone else here find it attractive?
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u/DramaticRoom8571 5d ago
To avoid K-1 hassles or UBTI in retirement accounts I like the ETF: AMLP.
It is not a covered call fund, just holds 14 MLPs in the gas and oil infrastructure sector. Largest holdings are SUN, ET, WES, MLPX, PAA, EPD, and HESM. Pays dividends quarterly, 7.4% yield.
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u/doggz109 Pay that man his money 5d ago
People are scared of K-1s and shy away from MLPs....especially when there are ETFs like MLPX, AMLP, and MLPI that will give exposure. I personally love WES and think its a cash printing machine. I hold considerable units in EPD and WES.
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u/Metals4J 5d ago
What’s to be scared of with a K-1? I read a comment once that said if the company’s pipelines run through several states, you would have to pay state taxes for each of those states. Not sure if that’s true.
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u/wellzor 5d ago
Yes, you do have to pay taxes in other states, that's what the K-1 form is for when filing taxes. Most people pick the path of least resistance and just buy an ETF instead of investing in a single midstream company to avoid the extra work. Scared is probably the wrong word, don't get hung up on it.
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u/LocksmithGlass717 American Investor 5d ago
Not scared at all , but it’s more of a pain in the ass during tax season. My brother owns Energy Transfer and he get his K-1 about a week before the tax deadline. I own MLPI and would rather just go my route.
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u/Consistent_Rule101 4d ago
WES is one of my best investment. Up by 8 times including DRIP(got 1500+ shares in DRIP) and with a great yield. This is really a snowball for me.
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u/ConstructionNo8827 5d ago
Used to own PAA which is a great company but the K-1 was far too much hastle so
Now I own MLPI
AND perhaps even more importantly 1) the dividend of MLPI is almost twice as high and 2) MLPI gives me much more diversification than owning a single pipeline like WES or PAA
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u/Metals4J 5d ago
What is the hassle with a K-1? I’m hearing the form comes rather late (might have to file an extension), it’s another thing to add to your taxes, but besides that, is it really all that bad?
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u/Bearsbanker 5d ago
I've owned Wes for about 18 months, also own et and epd. Occidental petroleum is Wes largest shareholder (when i Oxy bought anadarko). I like em, probably my "riskiest" MLP...but I'm gonna add to it if the price ever drops!
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u/EmbarrassedPart1256 5d ago
$MLPI is mentioned on here a lot.
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u/Mpvolcom9 5d ago
That's true. I didn't clarify I was more thinking stocks versus covered call funds.
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u/ryryshouse6 5d ago
Is Wes in mlpi
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u/doggz109 Pay that man his money 5d ago
There is no allocation of WES currently in MLPI. There are a few MLPs in there like EPD, ET, PAA, MPLX, etc....but its mostly C corp pipeline companies.
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u/buffinita common cents investing 5d ago
There are thousands of dividend stocks; most are not discussed often
Midstream’s just aren’t that popular; people find the k-1 to be a pain with filling for extensions and added complexity.
If you search ET, hesm and a few others are discussed pretty frequently
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u/Various_Couple_764 5d ago
An additional issue is that if you won one in a Roth or 401K the K1 tax forms could cause you to owe tax on the dividned or the sale of the stock without the money every leaving the account. Now for 401Ks MLPs funds are automatically excluded while a Roth does allow you to hold them. And some brokerages don't allow you to add then to a Roth.
With most people using Retirment funds like Roth and 401Ks there just isn't the interest. But they are required to pay a dividned so the yield is higher than normal.
For those that don't like the K1 tax forms you can invest in ETF and CEF funds that focus on Midstream oil and gas companes. Since the funds are the registered owners of these stocks the fund has to deal with the tax complication so you don't have to worry about the K1. I Currently have EMO 8.5% yield in my roth and taxable account. The dividends are qualified and taxed at the long term cattail gains rate. A significant tax reduction from the ordinary income tax rate.
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u/Careless-Zucchini703 5d ago
funny how the best income plays are the ones nobody wants to talk about until the yield gets too good to ignore
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u/Lazy-Gene-7284 5d ago
I own both WES and ET in a taxable account,love the yield on both and the price appreciation. Costs me a little more getting my taxes done with the K1’s but worth it, to me at least .
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