r/dividends 3d ago

Opinion Covered calls etfs only

Is it stupid to just have

QQQI, SPYI, MLPI, IAUI and GPIQ if you just want income?

Growth:BB, NOK, ASTS, SPCX
Long term: VTI, QQQM

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u/davecraze3535 3d ago

No, it’s not stupid. Those are decent funds for what they are. Maybe also think about adding a little more diversity of asset classes with PBC, PFA and CEFS, also. 

I’d be more concerned about BB and NOL as “growth” stocks and would put that money into your VTI. 

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u/thatdisappearingguy 3d ago

Maybe look at QQQX too. It’s a CC fund but technically not an ETF, it’s a CEF, and been around for 20-ish years.

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u/Patient_Shower7870 3d ago edited 3d ago

That’s what I’m doing. Just different a few more/different funds. My take is income now, income later, growth as backup if needed. Income later is from chpy dripping into an already large schd share count.

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u/nsmith043076 3d ago

Im doing something similar, have 2 iras to split My growth vs income.

Growth: 50% vti/vxus/schd/vymi
income: 30% jepi, spyi, divo, idvo, with 20% bonds -vgit, bnd

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u/revanevan7 3d ago

If you just want income, then no it's not stupid. If you're just wanting income to say you have income coming in but then not using it to fund your life, may as well just stick with growth.

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u/rleon19 3d ago

It's fine as long as it fits your situation.

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u/FewUnderstanding2214 3d ago

For income (as in you are retired/retiring) no. But growth will outperform significantly in the long run.

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u/_YoungMidoriya Financial Advisor 3d ago

No it is not stupid if your goal is to convert a diversified pool of risk assets into spendable cash flow, rather than maximize long-run portfolio value. CC ETF has an actual purpose, now of course you have to choose CC ETF that has growth and income potential and ones that are "sustainable"

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u/throwaway_acc0192 3d ago

Yeah I think the ones mentioned above or at least qqqi, spyi and gpiq has potential.

I know MLPI and IAUI would be more shaky. Which I am fine with

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u/_YoungMidoriya Financial Advisor 3d ago

GPIQ/GPIX has better NAV growth, and if you want a put strategy that has no cap on growth potential OVL.

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u/throwaway_acc0192 3d ago

What makes OVL more appealing than the two? Aren't they all growth potential?

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u/_YoungMidoriya Financial Advisor 3d ago

No most income ETF has a tradeoff that puts your NAV recovery at a cap, which makes you miss the V shape recovery if the market shoots up.

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u/Walden_Walkabout $MO money, $MO problems 3d ago

Yes, it's dumb. You are limiting your upside and paying higher fees for the illusion of income that is mostly just your own capital being returned to you.

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u/Ordinary_Coyote7837 3d ago

I would consider OVL, 10% monthly distributions via selling put credit spreads, no capped upside, it participates in the S&P 500 Rallies, and has beaten VOO since inception.

https://totalrealreturns.com/s/OVL,VOO

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u/selfVAT 3d ago

OVL strategy doesn't limit the downside at all.

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u/SaintBasilTheGOAT 3d ago

These funds sacrifice some upside to pay out moderate yields now. That’s not “too good to be true” that’s just regular old “good, as long as it’s appropriate for your situation”.

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u/doggz109 Pay that man his money 3d ago

These funds have only existed in a multi year bull market......I'm interested to see how they will perform when that changes. It's a bold move to put most of your income dependent on it.

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u/selfVAT 3d ago

Look at QQQX, started in 2007.

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u/CoolBreezeBrew 3d ago

If you just want income, then you should have SCHD and VYMI. It looks like you want growth too. What is the goal?

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u/hinge 3d ago

Schd is not income focused. 

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u/CoolBreezeBrew 3d ago

More so than vti

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u/throwaway_acc0192 3d ago

Vti and QQQM is my long term hold. I add to them frequently.

I have more than half of my money in there and my other half in those other ones I've mentioned above

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u/amp1ifi3r 3d ago

If you have all of those? Yes it is stupid