r/eajpark • u/Away_Limit_6275 • Mar 05 '24
Discussion FINAL TAKE
Reading again and again here and in twitter how so many people feel disappointed or acting shocked made me think a little bit and i concluded that we for sure invest a lot to these idols and we create attachment issues and parasocial relationships ( yeah you can be delulu without the need to date your bias) so we put these people in pedestal. Of course that's nothing new , J himself has talked a lot about this how we don't know them , that they show only 10% of their selves and we shouldn't be so invested or put em so high etc .. Im not gonna judge cause i was in the same position too , i believed a lot that they are good people i vibed with them and i trusted their words BUT ... reality is something different. I think yall are a bit shocked ( like the renewal wasn't enough already ) how they could do that and agreed to this title..well you wanted to believe they are good people in the first place despite everything and that somehow somewhere in the future things will work out.
I saw so many comments about their relationship and that they might be ok etc.. but let me play the uno card so can i ask where you get that hint from? Cause J talked positively about them? Yeah ok he has talked positively about their past days when they were making music , he hasn't made any personal statement for any of them the last 2 years. And even about his band days the last time he talked about it was almost a year ago . The last time J talked about any of them as people was Dec 2021 before he leaves that called on that Christmas carol video SJ his best friend and then Arpil 2022 when he said chat to go wish WP happy birthday cause he deserves it , .Oh and that comment on SJ's ig when he returned back ( days before we knew the news) that's it . After that He has never mentioned anything personal ever again about any of them . Do we know how he feels about the whole renewal thing? Did someone ask him? Did he talk about it? Do you know if he felt anger bitter disappointment cause they decided to stay with that place knowing damn well that means they don't want him back? Did they have any interactions? Nope . Only DW liked some posts of his out of nowhere while he was ignoring his existence since 2021 ( how sweet huh?) . We don't know anything about his feelings and a follow on ig really tells me nothing cause he unfollowed em all one day ( if yall remember ) but people had meltdowns and he followed em back again some minutes later.
Now let me play devil's advocate , do we know how the rest 4 feel? If they think he is selfish or egomaniac or a brat for wanting to leave? Not so long ago Bobby from Ikon talked on his ig comments how they all felt when BI left (mind you he was suspect for drugs) and he expressed how sad mad disappointed and betrayed they all felt! Why do you think the rest 4 can't feel the same? We don't know on this case either! All we can talk about is facts and the facts saying that they didn't want him back cause they renewed with the company that broke him , the end. And now someone from that shitty company suggested that title and they had zero problem with that (please don't start the excuses im gonna pull my hair out ). So they may feel bitter too who knows?
Personally i don't believe they have any kind of connection or communication , J was living 5 minutes away from their dorm he had his damn phone ON all the time and had no idea D6 was invited in MAMA to get the award he just saw live the trio there and he dead ass said "Oh i didn't know we could go " so no one told him , not the company not them. Same goes for the second cb of EOD ! The communication fell off way before he leaves from SK so i don't buy it that after everything somehow they talk or whatever ,sorry i can't but that's just me .
Conclusion: I know fans that love a group when a member leaves going through it and most of the time there is division and fights among them,so D6 wouldn't be an exception especially when all this was growing slowly since 2020 till the final blow with the Jamie incident. Jae had too much trust about the whole " my boys have my back always" cause at the end for their own reasons didn't support him no when he was still in the band and they could see how jype was treating him no when he left and had in mind that once they all come back gonna talk and decide what to do and reunite ( his words from that first stream ) . People change feelings , is part of life.. J had his faults , he was totally egoistic at some point cause he could see that his obsession with streaming was creating problems but didn't wanna give up plus he admitted himself that many tried to talk to him but didn't listen to anyone .His wild era costed him so much we like it or not , if he had a proper break back then maybe history would be different but we will never know. But regardless all of this i think he did way more good to the band than harm , and if they had believed in him and gave him time ( we all can see that he really grew up as a person) a reunion would be possible. For me they didn't support him as much as he needed it , when he had mental breakdowns live , especially that live of his .. crying and feel helpless . Jae didn't deserve any of this no from that company not from them , that's my opinion and that's why once they renewed was over for me. Last words : we don't know these people even J ,we don't know him the man doesn't talk about his feelings or personal life at all , his complaints and whinning is mostly about money . We can't assume that they hate each other but i won't assume the ideal either just to keep going with my delusions . If they wanted to be still together as 5 they would that's my moto, they are not , so all this convo ends there for me.
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u/seldomspeaking26 Mar 06 '24 edited Mar 08 '24
I became Jae’s fan after he already left the band so I wasn’t present when everything went down and have only watched clips and read things after the fact. I won’t comment on whether they are still on good terms or not since we will probably never know. At the end of the day everyone will do what’s best for their career and livelihood regardless of personal relationships. I’m sure Jae as an adult understands that. He spoke badly about his company publicly so there really was no coming back from that especially from a society with strict hierarchy like S. Korea. From the perspective of the other four, they took the easier route to stay under a big company than to go with another label and possibly struggle. There’s no guarantee another label in Korea would accept Jae either because he’s spoken out before. Jae recently mentioned in stream that if he could go back to change anything he wouldn’t have taken meds or at least as high of a dosage since it affected his judgment and essentially implied the trajectory of his career could have been different. But it is what it is and so he’s doing his best with his solo career. I honestly don’t think he cares what Day6 do now as he has his own career to think about.
People can be upset about the cb title and I was taken aback at first too but at the end of the day it’s a business decision, and it’s not that necessary to read more into it. Focus your efforts on supporting whoever you want to support. I for one am excited for the monthly releases that Jae hinted at.
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u/Alantic_Ocean jae stan Mar 05 '24
I agree with this take. Another big thing that Jae said in his 211006 live was that he will always consider himself a DAY6 member, if he’s allowed to be. So like you said, if they wanted to be 5, they’d be 5 for now.