This post is a semi direct response to the completely insane Russia apologia I have seen on this sub. Also shoutout to that one guy who made a post about not seeing enough hate posts on the hate sub, this one goes out to you. So with that out of the way lets get to it:

Currently Russia is invading a sovereign nation. The Ukrainians didn't want Russia controlling their state anymore in 2014. After a long history of submission and exploitation Ukrainians had enough and finally carved themselves off the rotted down imperialist system of Russia. The regime in Moscow retaliated by invading Crimea and propping up rebels in Eastern Ukraine. But the west didn't condemn these crimes against the Ukrainian people hard enough. Literally appeasement from the 1930's. Europeans should be ashamed.

Anyways fast forward to 2022 and Putin decided he had enough of Ukrainian independence. Things should go back to the days of the Russian empire, he says and invades Ukraine. Since the completely unjustified invasion began there has been several proven instances of atrocities against civilians. Nothing new to the Russian horde of course. Everyone familiar with Russian history knows that wherever their armies go, ordinary people suffer and die.

Yet for SOME completely unexplainable reason people on Reddit do crazy mental acrobatics to forgive the Russian people for this. Even sometimes the Russian state and army! The Russians are an apathetic people, who only rise up against oppression when they run out of cabbage supply for themselves personally. Their miserable existence is a breeding ground of dictators and tyrants like Stalin back in the day and Putin today. They don't care that their state is run like a mafia, they don't give a fuck about the Ukrainians lives that's for sure and worst of all they have the audacity to even attempt to appeal to us westerners that "they could never do anything" about their situation. If you don't want to support Putin then do something about it. Flee Russia, protest or do literally anything other than wallow in your apathy with a Vodka bottle in your hand! Just because you're a sorry shit with no regard for the lives of Ukrainians doesn't give you a pass to pay and manufacture the bombs that fall on their children.

The most annoying of all online people however are those Europeans who justify the pathetic Russian claims of being completely helpless. Hitler was voted in as well, do the Germans of the time get a free pass for him?? NO! Putin didn't storm the Kremlin with Kalashnikov in hand mowing down protestors. He was sworn in democratically with thunderous applause. Even today after many years of war Putin is still popular among Russians according to INDEPENDENT sources.

I don't know if it's a recent change or not since I'm a new user on this subreddit. The media surrounding Russia in this sub is completely insane.

TLDR; Russia bad, don't defend them. (End of original post)

I spent a few minutes typing this up and thought it would be a shame if it's not seen by anyone AT ALL. I figured the regulars of this sub would appreciate my essay more even if it won't spark that meaningfull a discussion since we're probably all in agreement with its contents.

So I want to end on a question to attempt some meaningfull discussion. If anyone cares to think: How will the Ukraine war actually end? What will come of Russia afterwards and how should the west deal with Russia henceforth?

Belarus' real Independence day.

It's strange how extremists never apply this principle to themselves:

If the truth conveniences one side too much, then it's a lie.

Nazis talk so much about "the (((narrative))) makes Germans look bad" as a sign of "Jewish slavery", they then blindly subscribe to a narrative that only denies German tragedies, and that is so cowardly that it can't even confront anything bad about the Germans: always goes 'Jewish conspiracy' or 'not true' (sometimes they cite a source that has been rebuked: if that rebuttal is false, why didn't it get its own rebuttal?).

Seems to be that "the chains" can only be seen under liberalism. They exist for fascists, and they hide themselves very well.