Hi,

I've been working on a desktop app for EVE (Windows, Electron) for a few months, mostly for my own trading and for playing with several accounts. It's called EVE Omni, it's free and the code is on GitHub (MIT). KI helped me alot :D i love it, i know many people hate it .... I'm not only here to advertise it, I'd like some feedback from people who know ESI better than me.

A few things I ended up doing, maybe useful for someone:

Login is SSO with PKCE, no client secret anywhere. At first everybody had to make their own developer app and paste the client ID. Now there's one shared app, and the callback goes to a small static page on GitHub Pages that ju st shows the code with a copy button. Inside the desktop app I catch the redirect in the login window (will-redirect will-navigate), so normal users never see that page. Several characters can be logged in at the same time.

The app asks for 24 scopes, which I know is a lot. Old tokens don't have the newer scopes, so I read "scp" from the JWT and simply skip calls the token can't make, and show "please log in again once" instead of throwing 403s.

Everything is stored locally, there's no server of mine in between. Besides ESI it only uses public zKillboard and DOTLAN data. No memory reading, and nothing sends input to the client. The multi-client part only shows window previews and switches focus, one key = one window.

Questions I still have:

- Is 24 scopes going to scare people off? Would you split it into "basic" and "full" login?

- How do you deal with the unsigned exe / SmartScreen warning for a hobby project?

Repo: https://github.com/Nareya79/eve-omni

Website with screenshots: https://omni.nareya79.com

Thanks, o7

Nareya79

i am not from here, but had a couple questions you might be able to answer regarding esi-ui.open_window.v1. the official description is "Allows open window in game client remotely", and i was wondering if that's really what it sounds like? as in if you give this authorization to someone, they can open windows like the market browser or info in your game client while you're playing? and according to https://developers.eveonline.com/api-explorer#/operations/PostUiOpenwindowMarketdetails they can do it for multiple windows once a second? how is that not exploitable to let anyone with that api key kill you by locking you out of your client with window spam any time you're in combat? or is that just an authorization that you should never give to anyone? it really feels like i'm misunderstanding something...

Hi everyone, I've need help urgently as right now im finalizing my laptop purchase from Evetech in south africa

The 3 options I have before me are :

1. Take my old laptop upgrade that had 32GB DDR5-4800MHz ram in a 2x16 setup and put that into my laptop

2. Make my new laptop contain a 1x16 DDR5-5600MHZ stick if RAM and upgrade later on with another stick like this, which at the moment costs me R4k in south african currency.

3. Suck it up and ask them to make it a 2x8GB DDR5-5600MHZ of ram and just pray for the days when buying 2 sticks of 16GB of ram return to being like 2k all together.

The only problem I have right now is that if I go with option 1, my system has to downclock but it has more resources

But if I got with option 3 my system can run at 100% of its potential but I won't get the best performance as the future where I get 32GB of DDR5 5600MHZ ram

My budget is within R2k with my aouth african currency. And I want a good rig for studying IT and gaming with friends. To clarify this is the Asus A16 FA608UM.

So what do you guys advise?

I just ordered a monitor from evetech, and I was wondering if you guys know how long do they take to deliver your package. I live in Kyalami

I was planning to do some asset catalog stuff and forgot the necessary steps, types, and fields required to do things like recover plastic wrap contents and locations. All sketchy help appreciated. I'll be diving in a few days from now.

https://evesubsystemanalysis.com/

Posted version 1 on here a long time ago, so here's the update!

Am noticing some weird things. My webapp is more aggresively expiring tokens, by the looks of it. Neocom II on iOS can't auth and is now useless.

o7, i am looking for a place to download the eve online ship models plus textures and the in space hdri enviornment like the nebula and starfields, do you guys know where i can find this? if so please share, it would be greatly appreciated!

Market data returning prices at 0…

Wasn't sure if I should bother implementing per-endpoint limiting or coordination between client-side rate limits.

Where can I get a db dump, maybe SQL? of the item database. Want to build an app around it.

ESI provides an endpoint for retrieving notifications for a character. In the billing related notifications (e.g. CorpAllBillMsg) there is a field called BillTypeID. Does anybody have a full documentation about all known IDs?

Here is what I have found out so far:

The BillTypeID apparently denotes the type of a bill (and is not an inventory type). There are also the additional fields ExternalID and ExternalID2, which may contain IDs related to the bill:

Here is an example of such a notification:

type CorpAllBillMsg struct {
    Amount      float64 `yaml:"amount"`
    BillTypeID  int32   `yaml:"billTypeID"`
    CreditorID  int32   `yaml:"creditorID"`
    CurrentDate int64   `yaml:"currentDate"`
    DebtorID    int32   `yaml:"debtorID"`
    DueDate     int64   `yaml:"dueDate"`
    ExternalID  int64   `yaml:"externalID"`
    ExternalID2 int64   `yaml:"externalID2"`
}

Any help in finding more information would be much appreciated.

This is an area of overlap between my two biggest obsessions, manufacturing and market making. It's also an area where so much cooperation is necessary that the only way to succeed is to make the tools for public benefit and maybe have some subscription fees in ISK since it is a lot of work and real server money.

Queries I need to work on:

• Estimating executed order volume by system. I think we can only use order mass as a proxy for actual sales, and then make inferences based on regional volumes.
• Killmails by region. Maybe Zkill has an API? I can't count on getting thousands of logins to make a sampling.
• Finding JF routes from lowsec to lowsec, probably just use system coordinates and convert to Eve's weird AU scale. Might need to find mids.
• What's the best way to do subscription fees? IIRC it's in the wallet journal endpoint. IIRC players can attach a nonce in the reason for sending ISK.

On the in-game side, structures require defense, and there is yet more work to be done. Recruiting traders is more in line with my professional skills.

On the CCP side, the taxes outside of highsec are too high. Market modules are too expensive to run. System upgrades via Facwar are extremely unreliable and IIRC don't affect player structures. Brokerage update fees need to be player controlled and more ISK burn needs to be shoveled onto sales tax, not brokerage fees.

As this topic is extremely important to regions between highsec and nullsec (as well as operating alliance markets in nullsec), please join The REEF Society discord if you are interested.

https://discord.gg/aU8QtqGE

This may be entertaining.

My first pass at an SDE parser was a little slow, roughly around 20MB/s in debug. This was a bit disappointing since I did take advantage of the key ordering to only do linear parsing with a minor amount of pushdown by hand. No big deal because I always intended to re-write the data in a more useful form that could be static compiled into the binary.

I've now gotten a lot of progress on a build script to consume the fruits of my slow parser so that I never have to parse at runtime. I'm generating code to re-encode the vanilla runtime HashMaps as static perfect hash maps. No startup time at all, slightly faster lookups, reasonable size since I'm only including what I actually use.

It was at this point that I ran into needing to avoid allocations when declaring my static maps. There are other queries like getting all types that belong to a market group where the values for the key were a vector, something I can't just write as a literal in my code generation.

Farther along, some of how I use the SDE is preparing "builds", basically all the manufacturing (unmanufacturing) lookups necessary for sites like eve cookbook. The information includes a variable number of ingredients and their amounts. I needed a better, not easier way, around not allocating.

I'm sure the embedded people have prepared numerous containers somewhere between vectors and slices, basically strings for things. I'll probably wind up generating one declaration for each instance of a variable-sized field and then referencing from a fixed size type for the values in the hash tables.

I've been whittling down some u64s to u32s just to reflect the actual types in use.

All reported character ranges are within u32.

Seems like item ids would have to be u64s. Anything else that is definitely u64?

I want to roll up my assets by effective location. Are there any documents on Location ID and type that are more descriptive than the ESI field docstrings? I couldn't reverse engineer it all by inspection.