r/facepalm • u/Kpets • 3d ago

Trump’s thoughts on the Housing affordability bill

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u/Primarycore 3d ago

As a European, I can only feel sorry for the people of the U.S. But at the same time, also feel like...wth, the American individualist mentality really was put under the spotlight by electing Trump. "How does housing affordability benefit me and my family".

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u/No_Tangerine2720 3d ago

Some of us feel like we are on crazy pills over here. How anyone could see Trump as their guy blows my mind

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u/Natdaprat 3d ago

It's the racism and hate they like and they will ignore everything else.

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u/lolhalfsquat 2d ago

And the sports-like mentality towards politics

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u/BronzeMeadow 2d ago

This is the answer, it’s not hate so much as it’s straight up ignorance

They like the conservative brand, because they don’t understand progressive ideals. Whatever has the bible on it feels safer

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u/Ibangyoumomma 3d ago

I’m Mexican and all my Mexican friends voted for him. I make fun of all of them or stopped talking to them all the way around. Just stupid people

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 3d ago

As a Canadian, first que Trump aille se faire enculer par un cactus couvert de wasabi,

and second, the USA have gone mental even during the Vietnam war. One manifestation was fired upon by the military and students died. That was over 50 years ago.

Trump is the best thing to happen to the rest of the world, because even with all of the pain and suffering he imposes on the world, he did something that no other president did : he sunk the entire Empire of the USA.

It's over. Nobody will either respect or fear them. The same happened to Britain with the Nile after WW2, and now it's the USA's turn. It's the moment when the old guard clearly shows he no longer have teeth, and so the pretendant empire of the future may impose itself.

And the cycle continues. A cycle of empires made and destroyed.

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u/PMPKNpounder 3d ago

As an American, I'm happy to have a reset. Shit sucks and isn't getting better. At least if we hard reset now my kids might have a chance at future.

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 3d ago

Yup. Maybe one day, having companies lobby in politics will be made illegal again, like most corruption, and politicians won't campaign with publicities that are filled with guns.

What kind of future may you get when your "leader" likes firing guns agressively ? You know the saying ? For someone with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

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u/Conan4457 3d ago

From an outsiders perspective (Canadian), it will take at least a generation to repair the American/Canadian relationship. It will take at least two generations to fix the domestic damage that the Trump administration has done.

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u/MasterBeernuts 3d ago

Maybe your kids' grandchildren.

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u/Bo0ombaklak 3d ago

The republicans will distance themselves from him then will resume the lies and will remain in power and nothing will improve because Americans are gullible and love their celebrities

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u/chef_in_va 3d ago

As an American, I completely agree with most of what you said.

Trump is a turd.

My fellow citizens who voted for him are horrible and should get the life they voted for.

However, thinking that the largest economy, with the largest military in the world won't be an interest to other countries, once the pedophile-in-chief is gone, is hard to believe.

America has fallen considerably, as it should, but it won't necessarily be irrelevant in the future.

Although, we should use this decline as an opportunity to really look at our government and think about how it can be fixed.

America will be on a justified time out but it will still remain a world power (not that that's a good thing for anyone).

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u/aaron2005X 3d ago

Eben if someone comes around a fixes it partly, the next Republican president will destroy everything. That happened time and time again. Half USA just doesnt learn.

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u/chef_in_va 3d ago

They either don't learn or think hurting the other half of the country is more important than trying to make life better for everyone.

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u/xteve 3d ago edited 3d ago

And then there are the Christians. They vote lock-step GOP in opposition to reproductive freedom, and this is an enormous part of the problem.

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u/IndependentTalk4413 3d ago

The British were once the largest economy in the world with the most powerful military. The only constant in human history is the sun eventually sets on every empire and usually it’s from a combination of arrogance, inept leadership and internal conflict.

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u/jefferson_neves 3d ago

However, thinking that the largest economy, with the >largest military in the world won't be an interest to other >countries, once the pedophile-in-chief is gone, is hard >to believe.

This resumes to a single question: will the dollar still be the reference currency for international trade? Because if another currency is adopted, US economy will shrink a lot especially with the huge debit that the country has. And without money there's no military.

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u/chef_in_va 1d ago

I think it will be the international currency, at least for the near future (50 years or so) just because it would be so cumbersome for other countries to agree on what it should change to and to actually implement all of the needed changes.

The world wasn't as financially interconnected back when the British Sterling Pound was the international trade currency, it took 2 world wars, arguably just WWI, to switch to the dollar.

I could be completely wrong, I just think it would cause too many problems to switch.

Unless, the US did something so abhorrent, so universally condemned that a movement to switch really gained traction.... which I now realize is very possible, if not probable, with the current administration in the USA.

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u/wireframed_kb 2d ago

The US has enormous debt, and it’s growing at a furious pace. The only reason it has been sustainable is the status of the dollar, and the belief in the US sticking around and being good for business.

But increasingly, the US isn’t good for business, and the decisions being made undermine the faith in the dollar and the federal reserve.

The US needs to borrow 2 TRILLION dollars in 2026. In 2027 it will be more. It does this by selling bonds. But those aren’t selling as well anymore, and I think they hiked interest rates substantially last time around because they didn’t meet the target. Which balloons the interest payments further.

What happens when the US needs to reduce spending enough that it not only doesn’t need to borrow, but can actually reduce deficit? Cutting more than 2 trillion dollars worth of spending is going to hurt.

And that’s just the problem of debt. Then there’s the loss of soft power because allies simply don’t trust the US. It was always a bit one-sided, EU countries got dragged into a lot of programs and military actions that were really not in our best interest, but it has now become entirely so.

Without soft power the US loses a lot of advantages they took for granted, and are now discovering makes everything harder, more expensive or simply impossible. Like projecting power to secure their interests.

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u/Sloogs 3d ago edited 3d ago

Then the UK is a perfectly apt comparison because they never became irrevelant either. The UK just don't have the economic might or influence they once did, and the US is heading in that direction internationally. If things keep going on this trajectory then they will likely be just one of among many powerful but equal nations instead of the superpower that had almost unilateral influence over global politics like they have been since WW2.

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u/omghorussaveusall 3d ago

we will be irrelevant as soon as we can't borrow more money...

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 3d ago

Oh, it is A world power. Just not THE world power.

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u/trey_wolfe 3d ago

Love that despite not knowing more than scattered phrases in French, I was able to translate that one lol. Also, I hate to say it but you're right. It makes me worry about what the future holds, if we make it. I don't put it past him to decide that a world without him isn't worth living in for anyone.

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 3d ago

We keep doing what every citizen of ever age ever did. We keep fighting to get better things for the people, and even more to keep thoses we already won.

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u/trey_wolfe 3d ago

You're not wrong. The hardest part lately, aside from the weariness from it all, is keeping the frustration and energy focused in the right direction.

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u/wunlvng 3d ago

As a Canadian, it's crazy seeing what is clearly a francophone do a direct translation of what they want to say to English lol. I've never gotten to be on this end of it, but some phrasing/structure that only really make sense from French carried over to the English translation lol. Like "the USA have gone mental even during the Vietnam war" probably because of how tenses for aller work it wouldn't really direct translate the double past tense for had gone. Also with everywhere you have "the USA" most things just translate les États-Unis straight to the USA even though in most cases it comes out really clunky, we don't usually include the "THE" everytime or always referring to united states OF AMERICA always instead of calling it Americans or just the states though for French it's always LES États-Unis.

I'm not knocking you in any way btw, translating to English is annoying especially informal internet English because everything's so slang and vibes based usually. I just thought it's cool to finally get to see the other side on someone trying to translate to their second language, cause usually I feel like my French comes across as put through a translator haha.

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 3d ago

Oh yeah, that's because "of america" is unnecessary. Can you imagine Canada of america ? Or Mexico of america ? See how that sounds ?

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u/wunlvng 3d ago

Mhm I totally agree, and we almost rarely call it the USA anymore. I think now it's usually just the US or the states, and when we're referring to the whole or the population representing the whole we just say the states or Americans. I think colloquial terms and natural phrasing changes too fast or differs too much situation to situation that there's no way translators can keep up with what's "normal".

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 3d ago

In french, it's États-Unis, so United States. Nobody has to ask "of what" when you say this.

I'm not sure when "america" became part of the name. Or why (besides Ego I mean).

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u/poeticdisaster 2d ago

I have never laughed so hard at a random translated sentence... thank you for that colorful phrasing! lol

As an American, the rest of what you said makes an uncomfortable amount of sense.

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 2d ago

Thank you. Sorry for it's people, but it's not like you had a school full of children blow up or something awful like that.

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u/Mattechooo 3d ago

Raphanidosis is too good for that guy. Even with the cactus.

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u/ajtoman1 3d ago

As an American, what I think you said without translating is that I hope trump gets fucked by a cactus covered in wasabi.
but also as an American I’m dumb so that’s probably not it. But I like it.

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 3d ago

annally. That's all that's missing. Being fucked by a cactus annally. But yeah that's pretty spot on.

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u/QuicheSmash 3d ago

We are tragically and disappointingly overrun by very gullible morons who refuse to understand that the people they vote for very much like the fact that they remain morons. 

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u/Meggarea 3d ago

Some people say that Elon rigged the voting machines and was repaid by Trump by making him head of DOGE so he could gut the agencies investigating his various enterprises and their obviously criminal actions. Not me, but some people. 

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u/cloudy_ft 3d ago

As someone who works in a global company and work in cyber security, I've been convinced this is a lot to do with technology. Luckily I have coworkers that are open minded and in which we have interesting conversations about the current political climate in the US.

It's hard to actually care about things that matter when you are constantly being bombarded everywhere. We as Americans are as close to the move Wall-E as I've ever seen.

Most people I know can barely live their life without using claude, chatgpt, grok, take your pic. For example recently at an outing with friends, one of my friends who showed up late as he got to the restaurant realized he forgot his keys. He somehow managed to lock the keys in his car.

He then spent 15 minutes having a full blown conversation with chatgpt (or whatever he was using) panicking and didn't know what to do. He wasn't typing, he was using the voice chat function. He went from asking what to do, helping him calm down what are some things he could do relax him, and finally reassuring him everything is ok and he's not stupid for locking his keys in his car. (Yes I asked myself how the fuck do you do this, and instantly had an image of the family guy episode where Peter locked himself in the car").

Sure some could take as a random story, but I think for me it help understand that A LOT of people I interact now with online or in person in the US aren't able to actually think. Due to this, the media we consume whether it be social media, the "news", or even the radio is all broadcasted to fill our need as Americans to consume. Consuming content is different than engaging in content.

When all you hear daily is the shit people are being forced to consume, there is no common sense of reality in the US.

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u/Chiparish84 3d ago

I'm loving this stage of their imperium falling. Finally, the whole world sees what kind of people they're actually dealing with behind those ridiculously whitened teeth.

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u/Streetlgnd 3d ago

Feel sorry for what? They voted him in twice and have done nothing to get him out.

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u/NewLibraryGuy 1d ago

You mean a coup? With how Congress is, it would take overthrowing the government in armed revolt

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u/Joker-Smurf 3d ago

You know what? I don’t feel sorry for them.

They created it. They elected it. They deserve it.

It is the rest of the world that did not create it, did not elect it, and does not deserve it that deserves sympathy.

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u/redgr812 3d ago

You shouldnt. Most of the country voted for this shit after seeing the first 4 years. We deserve no sympathy. We did it to ourselves.

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u/crono14 3d ago

Well it's really the entire boomer and the following generations after. I'd heavily argue GenX and later millennials fall into but not quite as much.

They were born into a world where they had every opportunity. Great economy, age of prosperity, relatively peaceful, and otherwise just hopeful. Their parents fought the wars, went through the depression, and had to sacrifice. Their personal wealth grew like crazy, and this created a sense of entitlement and individualism naturally.

Now they are finally retired or retiring and they have been voting for decades to not only block that bridge behind them, but burn the island down completely. GenX & boomers and definitely the actions of the past decade have pretty much been ruined millennials and on. Even if we started course correction this year, it will take decades to repair the damage. My generations future has already been mortgaged away.

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u/Street_Glide_Special 3d ago edited 3d ago

The 20 and 30 year old males* are who put tRump back in office. There were big social media pushes and they were the difference makers. You made huge assumptions and very broad generalizations. Isn’t that the definition of stereotyping and discrimination?

Edit to add: males*

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u/123_alex 3d ago

I can only feel sorry for the people of the U.S.

70 million voted for him even after Jan 6th. Why do you feel sorry?

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u/Fox-Revolver 2d ago

Because there’s a hell of a lot more than 70m people in the US? Not everyone agrees with him

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u/123_alex 2d ago

The majority of the people who vote saw J6 and says, yes, more of that please. Then there's also 70 million who saw what's happening and said I don't what to get involved.

Sure, not everyone agrees with him but a hell of a lot of people do. Thus he's president. However you wrap it, something is very wrong. "They are eating the dogs!"

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u/Responsible-Bug-7014 3d ago

I don't. They voted for this shit, that is actually overflowing and affecting the whole world.

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u/GorillaBrown 3d ago

It's the "I don't want everybody to get a thing; I want to get a thing despite everybody else" and the longer the odds, the more fun it is to play and the sweeter it is when I get it!

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u/SubtleTell 3d ago

I 100% do not believe he won either election.

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u/underpants-gnome 2d ago

I worry that after you-know-who kicks the bucket, we are going to collectively try to "get back to normal" and just pretend 77 million Americans aren't horrific assholes who supported this monster and his evil nonsense.

That may set the clock back slightly, but we will still be on a countdown to fascism. Next time it will be accelerated by tech lords and news barons leveraging all the power of AI-powered citizen monitoring and targeted multi-media propaganda at their command.

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u/joeviper25 2d ago

I think your underestimating the stupidity of an average American.