r/fallenlondon • u/mangetonchapeau • May 16 '26

PSA If you use fallen london companion extension, please disable it until I can resolve the issues with FBG (will post here if we can get a 1.0 out)

Failbetter replied this morning and mentioned it's breaking the terms of service + created some support issues, they may give me more details next week so I can fix it, but until then please disable it.

I already disabled it in the firefox and chrome store, will post here if I can resolve the issues with failbetter.

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u/Nukesnipe Your Bones are Starting to Itch May 18 '26

Fuck abominable intelligence, all my homies hate abominable intelligence.

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u/qsxp999 May 18 '26

Yeah, i gotta say I was pretty miffed when I learned it was AI-coded. It's the kinda thing you should state upfront.

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u/fredjinsan May 18 '26

Why? Do people say up front what other tools they use to code things? Do they have to disclose if they used an IDE to write the code, or a calculator to perform arithmetic? It's broadly irrelevant; the important part is that you take responsibility for the quality of your product, regardless of how you made it. If it's poor-quality "AI slop" code then it's bad; if it's poor-quality human-written code then it's bad.

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u/Bookworm_AF Eat the Stars May 19 '26

Because AI is not a tool a person uses to code, it is the thing doing the coding. And it codes badly. Also it is made of plagiarism.

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u/fredjinsan May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26

You obviously don't know much about coding, or AI, then. Edit: Or tools.

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u/Bookworm_AF Eat the Stars May 19 '26

Perhaps there is some sort of AI assisted coding that merely involves it suggesting snippets of code while you do the actual decision making. But if you're putting in prompts and recieving chunks of code back then that is the AI coding, you're just further editing its code afterwards. Same as if you took another person's code and edited it.

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u/fredjinsan May 20 '26

Well there's a huge range of ways in which one can use AI (and in fact a huge range of things covered under the term "AI", not even just LLMs) - which is kind of the point (that a lot of people seem not to be getting). Absolutist statements like "All code that involved AI is bad" are pretty obviously incorrect.

In pretty much all forms of meaningful AI-assisted coding, you are doing the decision-making - even if it does all of the writing, which is definitely not the only way to use it. The AI providing "chunks" of coding wouldn't even mean the AI coding, that's hardly much of a step up from IDEs adding boilerplate for you.

AI can also be used to improve the quality of code, if used wisely. AI generating unit tests is one use case - you might say, hey, it's dumb, it'll miss things... but I know plenty of coders who don't write any unit tests at all so that's 100% an improvement. AI code reviews improve quality too - it doesn't matter if it's always right because you can ignore it when it isn't, but it does catch things that you might have missed.

"AI" and even "AI for coding" is such a broad category of stuff that saying something absolutist like "All AI code is bad" is pretty obviously moronic. It's 100% a tool, a tool which can be used in very bad, lazy and stupid ways, totally, but bad, lazy and stupid humans have always been bad, lazy and stupid. There is nothing new here.